Law&Crime Sidebar - Pooh Shiesty Allegedly Caught Robbing Gucci Mane in 'Leaked' Video

Episode Date: July 2, 2026

New video evidence and federal court filings out of Dallas, Texas, allege that rapper Pooh Shiesty held record executive Gucci Mane at gunpoint in a brazen plot to force his release from a mu...sic contract. While prosecutors reveal shocking claims of pretrial misconduct to keep the rapper behind bars, the defense argues that the core of the government's case is flawed. Law&Crime's Jesse Weber breaks down the latest twists in this high-profile federal case alongside former Pooh Shiesty defense attorney Bradford Cohen.PLEASE SUPPORT THE SHOW: Grow your own audience today – go to https://www.opus.pro/sidebar for 1 week free plus 50% off the first 3 months of Opus Pro. HOST:Jesse Weber: https://twitter.com/jessecordweberLAW&CRIME SIDEBAR PRODUCTION:YouTube Management - Bobby SzokeVideo Editing - Michael Deininger, Christina O'Shea, Alex Ciccarone, & Jay CruzScript Writing & Producing - Savannah Williamson & Juliana BattagliaGuest Booking - Alyssa Fisher & Diane KayeSocial Media Management - Vanessa BeinSTAY UP-TO-DATE WITH THE LAW&CRIME NETWORK:Watch Law&Crime Network on YouTubeTV: https://bit.ly/3td2e3yWhere To Watch Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3akxLK5Sign Up For Law&Crime's Daily Newsletter: https://bit.ly/LawandCrimeNewsletterRead Fascinating Articles From Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3td2IqoLAW&CRIME NETWORK SOCIAL MEDIA:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawandcrimeTwitter: https://twitter.com/LawCrimeNetworkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lawandcrimeTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/lawandcrimenetworkTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lawandcrimeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let them know you drop him. I drop you. No, it's said. Poochisit dropping 1017. New video and details are emerging in a major federal case, where prosecutors claim rapper Pushaiste held his former colleague Gucci Main at gunpoint all in an attempt to break free from his reporting contract. So now as Pushaistee is fighting to get out of jail before trial, still months away,
Starting point is 00:00:23 the government is revealing more alleged misconduct claiming he can't be trusted on the street. We've combed through new filings to bring you the very latest on this case, and we're bringing on the attorney who had been representing Poo Shisty in this case. Bradford Cohen. Welcome to Sidebar. Presented by Law and Crime, I'm Jesse Weber. By the way, if you're following us here on Law and Crime, you might see that we put all these clips out there so quickly on these rapidly developing stories.
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Starting point is 00:01:53 and his co-defendants, allegedly held rapper and record executive Gucci, at gunpoint. Allegedly it was all because Poo Shishti wanted out of his recording contract. Now, we're going to bring on Bradford Cohen. The Attorney to the Stars had represented Poo Shasty at one point in time in this case until recently. But we'll get his perspective on all this. But just take a look at the video for yourself. You drop this done there?
Starting point is 00:02:21 Let them know you drop him. I'll drop you. I'll see it. Mooseyce it dropping 10-17. Shout out. Real niggins. They never did no police, but none of it, bro. Tell him what going on.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Bro, we just did that it's done. What you do? You dropped. You said you want to be dropped. You dropped. Signed the paper. It's done. So we corroborated this clip's apparent authenticity
Starting point is 00:02:45 with the screenshots from a federal filing that appear to show the same people in the same studio. Because in the screenshots, the guy who appears to be Gucci Main, his face is redacted with the label R.D., so presumably standing for his real name, Radrick Davis. Pushaiste is also reportedly allegedly visible wearing his signature Balclava. You can also see who appears to be one of his co-defendants identified by the feds as Demarchus Glover standing near Gucci, Maine, allegedly holding a large gun.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And the feds claim that Rodney Wright Jr., also known as Big 30, is the one who's actually doing the recording. We also know that federal prosecutors submitted a USB with digital evidence to the court on June 25th. This was a major escalation in this case. It's the latest evidence to emerge against Pous Chishti because he stands accused of orchestrating this alleged brazen kidnapping and robbery plot. And the reason this USB in the video and the evidence has come out recently is in response to a request from Pus Chishty's legal team to re-examine the conditions of his pretrial detention.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Because Pus Chishty has been locked up since he and his co-defendants, including his father, Launtrell Williams, Sr., were indicted on charges of conspiracy to commit kidnapping, kidnapping, conspiracy to commit extortion, extortion, those kind of crimes. Now, according to the indictment, Pous Scheistee allegedly arranged a meeting with Gucci-Main at this office building in Dallas, Texas. This is where the music label 1017, apparently has a recording studio. Poo-Sheistee had been apparently signed to the label since 2021,
Starting point is 00:04:20 but reportedly wanted out of his contract. Now, how he's accused of trying to get out of that is interesting, because prosecutors claim that he didn't, you know, go to the relationship. lawyer, they claim he used the threat of violence to get what he wanted. And then they accuse him and his alleged co-conspirators of robbing Gucci Main and his entourage on the way out. The defendant's arrival, by the way, at the building was reportedly captured on the building's security cameras and screenshots of the footage were included in the criminal complaint. And this is new, by the way, a text thread included in the government's response to Pushaistee's bail request that
Starting point is 00:04:56 allegedly shows the plan in the making. It says, quote, Williams Jr., using the name Michael Myers, discussing needing 630 or certified, which is believed to refer to certified gang members for that Saturday, January 10th, 2026. Someone else in the thread says, I got the cat and TRX, prosecutors believe, the cat refers to a 2020 Dodge Charger Hellcat belonging or allegedly belonging to defendant Rodney Wright's father, which was reportedly seen on camera leaving the arson. office building, right? The alleged crime scene, this is according to the criminal complaint. And investigators claim that the crew took luxury items from Gucci Main and other people, other alleged victims, including a necklace, a chain, watches, a Louis Vuitton bag.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And according to prosecutors, what's believed to be the same items later appeared on the defendant's social media pages. And despite what you may call, what you can arguably call, again, they're innocent and less proven guilty, but arguably called the apparent avalanche of evidence against him, Pooch-Sheisty's legal team is fighting to get him out of jail. So a judge had denied Poo-Sheistee's bail earlier this year, but his lawyers want that review. By the way, his trial's been pushed back to February 2027. There's a lot that can change between now and then. But his team says he should be released with strict conditions up until his trial.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Before we even talk about the arguments in that filing, I just want to go a little bit back. And I want to talk a little bit about Poushysi's past experiences with the justice system because it's important. In April of 2022, a federal judge out in Miami had sentenced Pushaistee to 63 months, a little more than five years in prison. And as part of a plea deal, he pled guilty to one felony count of conspiracy to possess firearms and furtherance of violent and drug trafficking crimes. According to charging documents in that case, Pushaistee was believed to have been part of a group that shot two people and stole drugs and high-end sneakers at a hotel. in Miami-Dade County back in 2020. Pushaiste, he was released from the Bureau of Prisons, the BOP, in October of last year,
Starting point is 00:07:00 and the rapper apparently signed paperwork last fall outlining all the rules that he would have to follow while on home detention. According to that paperwork, Poushii-Sty agreed, quote, I will not drink alcohol beverages of any kind. I will submit to urinalysis or alcohol testing as requested by the RRC probation. In its motion for review of pretrial detention,
Starting point is 00:07:22 Pus Sheistee's legal team stated, quote, he reported for every required your analysis. He never tested positive. He complied with all conditions of home detention without exception. Here's the thing. Two sides, according to Texas prosecutors. The rapper had not been following the rules. The feds filed several exhibits with the court, including incident reports regarding Poushyshe's alleged refusal to undergo your analysis tests at the VOA or Volunteers of America,
Starting point is 00:07:52 contracts with the BOP. So for example, one report says, quote, client was informed on March 21, 2026 in the morning that he needed to report to the VOA facility to provide a UA. Later that evening, the client was contacted by phone as a reminder report again for the UA. The client stated that he did not have transportation as his producer was out of town. The client then asked if he could report first thing the following morning. I informed the client that I would need to obtain approval and call him back. After speaking with Ms. Blair regarding the situation, she approved the client reporting the next morning. I then contacted the client and informed him that he was required to report on March 22, 26 at 10 a.m. The client stated that he understood on March 22nd,
Starting point is 00:08:33 2026 at approximately 201, the client had not shown up. Another report states on November 9th, 2025 at approximately 139 p.m., client Lentrell Williams was asked to produce a urine sample. The sample that was provided was cold and did not read between 90 to 100 degrees. was notified, who then advised to write up as a refusal. The government also apparently produced these text messages that were allegedly sent by Poushisti, that they say prove he was drinking despite the rules against it. So one, for example, allegedly from October 13th, says, quote, high and drunk, October 18th, quote, I'm drunk, January 25th, quote, getting drunk. And in a conversation, seemingly from January 31st, Pushisti,
Starting point is 00:09:22 seemingly texted. What's up? I just got up. I've been tore up. The person responds, you was drunk, LMAO. And Pushai-Sty reportedly replied, Yemen passed out in the studio. You know what else? The rapper even reportedly got into a car accident while drunk in February. That's a new allegation. There was a text message, a text thread that was included in the government's motion and includes this exchange, quote, I got in a wreck. What the F? How? You was drunk? Yep, but somebody hit me. So look, it seems he arguably, allegedly wasn't super cooperative with the terms of his release, right?
Starting point is 00:10:01 That's the allegation. And get this, the feds claim that Pushaiste was essentially in cahoots with a case supervisor who helped get him day passes. Here's what their response says. Quote, investigators have now learned that Williams Jr. was involved in an inappropriate relationship with at least one of his VOA case supervisors and that his VOA employee was actively involved in entering fake day passes that would allow Williams Jr. to travel to unapproved locations while he was supposed to be confined to his residence.
Starting point is 00:10:32 This misconduct extended to the day of the kidnapping itself on January 10, 2026. On that day, the employee entered three day passes allowing Williams Jr. to travel and contacted him 19 times over the course of the day. VOA later terminated the employee for this conduct. Makes me think, is that going to be a key witness at it? upcoming trial. But what else did the defense present as a reason for why Pushai's D should be let out of jail? Well, according to them, the star witness in this case, Gucci-Mane recanted. Yeah, from their motion, it says, quote, strip away what the government does not have and what remains is this. R.D., Radrick Davis, or seemingly Radrick Davis,
Starting point is 00:11:12 told Dallas police on the night of January 10th that Mr. Williams pulled a gun on him, forced him to sign a contract released, and robbed him of his jewelry. That statement, We laid through an FBI agent who was not present at the incident and who did not interview R.D. herself is the sum total of the government's case as presented on the core offense. Special Agent Hansen conceded on cross that the FBI has not taken a formal statement from any of the five alleged victims in the four months since the incident. More damaging still, R.D., the man at the center of this case has gone on social media and denied that any of this occurred. He has posted videos repudiating the government's account
Starting point is 00:11:50 and according to defense counsel's unchallenged representation to the magistrate judge has displayed the allegedly stolen jewelry as if it were still in his possession. Agent Hansen did not know about these posts and confirm that no one from the FBI had spoken to RD after they appeared. A complaining witness publicly recanting the offense is not a minor evidentiary wrinkle. It is a fundamental problem. Look, if that's true, it could really be damaging to the Fed's case. But remember, Gucci-Maine wasn't the only alleged victim. of this purported shakedown. In fact, the man identified in court documents as CW, so reportedly one of Goochumain's
Starting point is 00:12:26 security guards, submitted an impact statement to the court, urging that Poo Shai's D remain locked up in it. He wrote, quote, prior to this incident, Mr. Williams was given a second chance and was granted bail bond with monitoring conditions. Despite those conditions, he was once again accused of committing another crime that resulted in a person being shot. My wife and I are both afraid of what his mindset might be if he's released. the incident, I have found myself watching vehicles passing by my home, worried that he or someone
Starting point is 00:12:55 connected to him, may attempt to harm me or my family. I have young children. Because of this fear, I have limited their ability to go outside and enjoy normal activities as they should. Judge, I respectfully ask that you consider the safety and security of my family and me when making your decision regarding bond. I believe keeping Mr. Williams detained is necessary to protect us and prevent even further harm. Thank you for taking the time to hear my concerns, respectfully, CW, Texas victim. and survivor. So look, the defense is hoping for home confinement. They want conditions that are similar to those that he was under after his release from prison. So 24-hour home confinement, GPS monitoring,
Starting point is 00:13:32 continuous third-party monitoring managed by a retired FBI special agent and a retired DEA special agent. Poo Shisti could reportedly secure the bail with up to eight properties. His team suggests that he surrender all travel documents and passports, that there be a no contact order regarding both the alleged victims and the co-defendants or a way to kind of alleviate any concerns there might be if he's released. But the government responded. The government followed up with a 25-page response, including several exhibits that challenged some of the defense's arguments. For example, they say that the, quote, release of contract, which the defense argued was never found, was discovered that it would seem that the purported video of the incident would support that.
Starting point is 00:14:16 The prosecution also pointed out that even if push heistee wears an ankle monitor, it apparently doesn't deter him from allegedly committing crimes. He was wearing one when this whole alleged kidnapping and robbery happened. So look, the judge has not ruled on whether bail will be granted, but you know we're going to stay on top of this and see what happens. Okay, so we've got a special guest. I want to welcome back on Bradford Cohen. So not only criminal defense attorney to the stars had represented Poo Shiasdi at one point in this criminal case. Thank you so much for taking the time. Always good to see you. This is a significant development. I mean, the last time you and I talked about this, there was a question, well, what does
Starting point is 00:14:52 really the government have? What's their evidence? Sure. I mean, they seem to have this video and they seem to have a copy of the contract. It feels like you're going to be tough for the defense. Sure. So there's a couple ways to look at this. Number one is when this case was originally filed, why I thought this case was so done in a sloppy manner is because they didn't have any of this, right? They were looking for this stuff. They didn't do any search warrants that they could get the stuff early on. They didn't do any physical search. warrants in terms of locations. They just didn't do the work originally on this case. What they did is they just indicted. So my original argument was they don't have any of this stuff, which they didn't.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Since that time period, obviously, they've done their work and they started to discover these things. Now, I would be foolish to say, wow, this is a great video for the defense because it's not. But at the same token, my argument at the bond hearing, which I conducted was even if they had all this evidence, it still does not rise to the level of a federal kidnapping charge. The charges that they charged him with do not meet the evidence that they have, the actual elements. So it's really a legal argument. I understand like the populace, and I posted on my Instagram today, and the opinion
Starting point is 00:16:08 is like, oh, he's cooked. And this, oh, my God, he's in all these different things. They don't understand the legal argument behind it. Now, this may be a state case. it may be some state arguments. There may be other federal charges that should have been filed, but not a federal kidnapping charge. Explain to me why it doesn't fit that.
Starting point is 00:16:28 So in order to fit a federal kidnapping charge, there needs to be a benefit and that benefit needs to be proven. And their benefit, their theory of this benefit, that's one element, by the way. The second element is that there's some sort of interstate commerce clause that comes into effect. They can't prove these weapons were made out of. of the state of Texas, which generally that's how they bring cases in federal court, kidnapping cases. It has to affect interstate commerce. So then they say, oh, well, maybe their cell
Starting point is 00:16:57 phones were commuting, they were communicating on their cell phones. That doesn't make any sense because they didn't show any. What about travel? So the travel would have to be proven that they traveled specifically to kidnap or specifically to commit this crime. They have not proven that. So that was my original argument. I had case law that backed that up. And I really think, that it was a very, very articulate argument that the court just was not, she just didn't want to take it under advice. She just saw like, okay, this FBI agent came in. She says there's a kidnapping. I'm going to say there's a kidnapping. The actual judge in the case who looked at the evidence at the time said, I don't see where this is a federal kidnapping case for Big 30 and Poo's dad
Starting point is 00:17:41 on their bond hearing. They appealed to the judge. And the judge said, I don't see a federal kidnapping case here, I'm going to give them a bond. So that is still the argument. Now, are there other federal charges or different federal charges that they may look at? Sure, but this was done so hastily and sloppy. They should have had the right indictment with the right charges from day one. And I think it would have been a cleaner case for the defense and a cleaner case for the government. Is it extortion? Is it a conspiracy to commit extortion? I think that there's an argument for that. I think there's some arguments for those for those issues. again, you're still going to run into whether or not it's a federal extortion as opposed to a state
Starting point is 00:18:22 extortion case. I think there's just some issues there, legal issues that need to be raised in case there's an appeal or in case there's things of that nature. Now, the X factor here is that there's many defendants. And whenever you have many defendants, you know, as well as I do, you know, the best crime is committed by one person. The worst crime is committed by eight. Because out of the eight, you know, seven, we're probably going to flip on the one. So I think that's what their bigger concern is, is that, you know, these individuals are going to flip on on Poo or his dad or Big 30, because those are the people that they really want and the other people are kind of peripheral. So, and they might not have enough money for good attorneys. There's so many things that take
Starting point is 00:19:03 place in these type of cases where there's multiple co-defendants that it starts to kind of fall apart at that point. So let's assume for a moment, let's say, in this, theory that it does match up to the federal charges. Let's just put that for a second. If I look at this video and I'm wondering, how does a defense attorney explain it away? Is it one argument, he wasn't being serious? He wasn't serious? Like, it's a weird
Starting point is 00:19:26 clip. It is a little bit of a weird clip. Like, you see a guy, allegedly with a gun, one of the, allegedly one of the co-defendants. He's there. It's like, say into the camera, I'm released from the contract. He's like, it's a weird video. And you know, one of the arguments that's being made, and correct me if I'm wrong is that
Starting point is 00:19:42 Gucci Main doesn't, like he didn't take this seriously, like went on social media and kind of, I mean, the fence says that he recanted what happened. Is there any way you could look at that video and be like, this wasn't serious? Like it was up, like it was, I don't know, it's not staged, but it was a gimmick or it was a, I don't know if that's anything, but am I wrong about that? Not wrong. I mean, there's a lot of ways to look at the video depending on the evidence that comes out. When I look at this video, if they're going to say this video is an actual video that's not staged or not a joke or things. things like that, that you could make those arguments or this evidence that shows that it's not. Here's the issues that come up, right? Number one is the statement was, is that Poo had an AK-47. Poo was the one who was forcing him to sign a document with an AK-47. In the video, Poo doesn't have a weapon in his hand. He allegedly is filming it. In the statement, they were saying Big 30 was filming it and that Poo was the one with the weapon.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Then they also say that they take all the jewelry. that the jewelry is taken before or after he goes into the studio, you see Gucci with his, well, allegedly Gucci with his diamond earrings still in his ear. That was one of the things that he said they made them, he made them take out the diamond earrings in his ear. So why wouldn't, if that was the case, why wouldn't they have robbed him right there? You know, they're taking this video, shut the video off, robbed them right there in the studio instead of waiting until they got out of the studio
Starting point is 00:21:10 and then robbing him. there's still a lot of issues there with the video, even if we were to assume that this video is not weird, but it is super weird. The other days, there's a guy that looks like he has a gun with him as he's telling him, tell him I'm released from the contract. I mean, another argument is it looks straightforward based on, based on the accounts, based on what the prosecution has alleged,
Starting point is 00:21:33 it seems to match up to the narrative what's in that video. Well, he's also saying something like, I already said you're out of your contract. I already said that you were out of your contract. It's just the body language is weird, the conversation is weird. And I have had a lot of conversation with Gucci before this all occurred. You know, I was very friendly with Gucci during Poo's first case because I represented Poo on his first case.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And I really love Gucci. Like I think he's a good dude. And to see this video, it just doesn't seem like this would be Gucci's, whether or not there's a gun in the scene or not. I know Gucci, like the old Gucci, and I don't think that the way that this was broached with him in his hands in his pocket saying like, hey, you're out of your contract, very calmly, all the things that are going on. It seems really unusual for Gucci to be in this position. And I understand. Everyone's like, well, there's AK-47. There's a lot of guys there. Like, I mean, between me and you, Gucci used to be John Wick.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Like, you know, like, not the violent John Wick, but the mindset of like, I don't care if there's a million guns. Like, you know, that's just Gucci. So I don't ever pitch Gucci. I don't ever picture him with his hands at his pocket saying, yeah, I'm good. And I don't care who's in the room. That's going to be the YouTube title for this video. John Wick is the new, excuse me, Gucci means the new John Wick. Look, this is all being brought because of pretrial detention, right?
Starting point is 00:23:07 This is all being brought about whether or not Pushaise either should be a change in his pre-trial detention. Should he be released? At the very least, the rules of evidence, the standard is different when you're having an analysis in terms of pretrial detention versus whether or not somebody is guilty beyond the reasonable doubt. Do you think that this is sufficient for the prosecution to establish he shouldn't be released or there shouldn't be any changes? I think it weighs very heavily on the side of the government. government. I think the defense has some work to do. I would start subpoenaing people to this bond hearing, let them object to who you're going to subpoena. I'd like to see if individuals who gave statements previously are still sticking to those statements. I think that's really relevant.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And even during my bond hearing, when I had the bond hearing with Poo, you know, the FBI agent is like, I haven't even had any contact with any of the victims since the incident. I didn't even have contact with them at the incident. I read a police report. I did my due diligence and I she didn't even write the report they put on an FBI agent that did not author a report that did not gather any information that did not gather any evidence it was really a sloppy bond hearing they were lucky because the magistrate was on their side but if that was in front of a judge that was paying attention and I don't know no no disrespect to the magistrate but I think if if there was a judge who was really paying attention to the law and what they presented at that
Starting point is 00:24:33 bond hearing, I think it might have been a different story. I know everyone says, oh, it's an uphill battle. I mean, listen, everything for me is an uphill battle, but that's why, you know, that's why I'm Brad Cohen. I love it. I love it. The modesty. Before I let you go, a big component about this is the contract, right? The contract that was printed out in the store and then now it seems the prosecution says, hey, we got it. We can show it to you. Is that significant? I think it definitely helps their narrative. I mean the release of it, right? Yeah, I think it helps their narrative. And here's another thing that's really not normal is that this evidence is being released. Obviously, it's not the defense releasing it. This evidence is being leaked into the press, obviously by the government,
Starting point is 00:25:18 which is also a nasty move that they do on basically any case. They never let the defense leak the good stuff, but the government always leaks anything that's bad. And then the judges just let it go. It's never really addressed in court how this video got out, who set the video out, why it went out, how did they get a hold of it? There's never very infrequently are there investigations of the government. But putting that aside, having the physical contract is definitely, if it's a signed physical contract, if it's just a physical contract without his signature on it, I don't know how much further that gets them. it definitely gets them, you know, a little bit further. But if it's not the sign contract, where is this sign contract? Why was it never used?
Starting point is 00:26:07 Why did the record executives never get noticed that he is now dropped off a 1017? Why did he never shop himself around to other labels after allegedly he was dropped from Gucci's label? So all those things come into question. If this was a real deal thing and this really happened the way they said it did, then why didn't he go out? the next day and start negotiating contracts with Columbia Records or Sony or whatever and say like, hey, I'm not, I'm no longer on 1017. I want to make my own deal. That never happened.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And you don't see any emails saying that, hey, we're going to renegotiate or anything like that. So that's really, I think, a hole in their case. Is it an impossible case to win? I never find any case impossible to win. There's always a way to win. It's whether or not arguments are presented correctly. are filed that need to be filed. Evidence that can be excluded can be excluded. So all those things
Starting point is 00:27:04 really come down to your legal prowess. It's not just the story that the government is telling. It's also whether or not the elements are met and how their elements are met. Well, let's see what happens. We've got some time between now and February 2027, if that trial should actually happen at that point. Bradford Cohen, thank you so much for coming on and giving your perspective on this. Appreciate it as always. The best. The best. Jesse Weber is always the best. I love it. Thanks, man. That's all we have for you right now here on Sidebar, everybody.
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