Leah on the Line - 113: Do I risk my relationship for the guy who ghosted me?

Episode Date: July 22, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Go back to school with Rogers and get Canada's fastest and most reliable internet. Perfect for streaming lectures all day or binging TV shows all night. Save up to $20 per month on Rogers Internet. Visit rogers.com for details. We got you. Rogers. It's getting closer to midnight, I try to get closer to you. ken how was your monday how was last week how you been since we last spoke let's have a little ketchup how you been i don't have a whole lot to report my therapist um challenged me to book a doctor's appointment for something that's been bothering me for two years she challenged me to do it we we have our sessions on fridays and she was like you know how do you feel about you know
Starting point is 00:01:02 monday talking to the doctor and and getting an appointment just to finally get this scene to what I was like well girl we're only on session three you're not a miracle worker but I have this thing where like I don't like to feel like I've failed at things so it almost feels like a challenge like I'm always a bit like not you doubting me not you thinking that I won't go and fucking do that because I fucking will honestly but uh it's four o'clock and I'm still yet to call the doctor will I no I'm not gonna do that today I may bring myself to fill out an online e-consult form
Starting point is 00:01:46 tomorrow. Who knows? Something might possess me to actually do something. So book talk. Oh, that sounded horrible in my headphones. Book talk. Let's debrief on where we are in in our reads so I spoke to you guys about reading Twisted Love and I then read Twisted Games completed it I have also read and completed Twisted Hate now all I have to say is Twisted Hate will forever be my favorite. Like, I don't know how anything, whatever top Twisted Hate, it was just so fucking good. It was so good. I was kicking my feet. I was, I was, I was, like, I, I was, Anna had me in a fucking joke hold with this book. I was just obsessed with it.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And if I'm going to recommend a book, it's Twisted Hate. Listen, it's not going to be everyone's cup of tea. So many people really hated this book, but oh gosh, like the characters just did what I wanted them to do. Like where there was moments where I was like oh come on give me a bit of fucking drama do you know what I mean give me a bit of toxicity or whatever they delivered I was like yes yes yes like a big secret comes out and typically in a book it's like I understand I forgive you I wanted I wanted fuck you fucking bitch. And I got that and it was yes, yes, yes. I loved it. Honestly, it was just so good. Honestly, I'm so jealous for anyone that hasn't read it, that gets to read it. I'm jealous of past me who was reading it for the first time.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Has anyone ever read a book for the second time? I'm not sure I could ever do that like I get like people watch a film twice I don't know if I could read a book twice though do people do that is that like a common thing because you do hear people say like oh I wish I could read it for the first time again like does that mean you've read it for a second time? I don't know. Yeah, I've personally never read a book twice. But after reading Twisted Hate, I can kind of see why you would. Because, oh, I just miss it already. I miss Josh and Jules. It's just so fucking, it was just fantastic.
Starting point is 00:04:21 It was just... fantastic it was just um twisted games was brilliant like i absolutely loved every single one of these books but one thing i will say about all the twisted books is they're not realistic like they're they're really really not and when you get past that, I think you get past it in Twisted Love when he's like a 14 year old millionaire. I think, I think from that point, we understand they're not the most realistic books in the world, but you know, it is a bit like, oh, fucking hell, come on. I'd find, I found Twisted Hate the least far-fetched to be honest. Maybe that's why I loved it so much it was the most simple
Starting point is 00:05:05 I find like Twisted Love I won't give any spoilers but Twisted Love you have Alex who's like a 14 year old millionaire who's not 14 in the present day but he he was a millionaire at 14 um he like grew up with his uncle his parents were murdered in front of him like savage awful life and story um and then you have Ava who has a past and a childhood that she doesn't remember and it's all you know it eventually obviously comes back to her so much unfolds there's so many like it's it's like whoa whoa whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, and they're just falling in love and having great sex throughout, and Twisted Games is, she is a princess about to be queen, you know, like she is a royal, falling in love with her bodyguard her bodyguards 10 years older than her and it's forbidden it's
Starting point is 00:06:06 wrong you know like it's against everything it's against her royal laws it's against his i don't know he just shouldn't do it because she's his client client i guess yeah um and it's so wrong but it's so right but there's also the heaviness of like she's you know she's a royal and people were stepping down from the throne and she may have to step up to the throne and like what are the laws around dating a non-royal and like there's all this heaviness and a genuine story to the first two and the second and sorry and the third twisted hate obviously there's a story but it feels lighter like you have Jules's past that is un unraveling and you're learning who she is
Starting point is 00:07:00 and where she comes from and just her story and Josh doesn't have much of a story besides things we already know like because he's Ava's brother from the first book we already know about his childhood and his past and his parents and his story so you don't go into that much you more go into Jules but it's very present ow why the fuck did i just get an electric shock off my phone it's very present day focused which i enjoyed to be honest like i think sometimes when when there's a big secret that the author's keeping from you until the very end it can be frustrating to read does anyone else know what i mean um like i had that in heartbones by Colleen Hoover like I was just like oh fucking come on tell me tell me what's going on here whereas with Twisted Hate
Starting point is 00:07:50 it felt very like you know it is what it is we yeah I don't know I just can't explain it it was just so good in terms of I could just enjoy it they hated each other because she was like the bad influence friend and he's really protective over his sister and he's she's best friends with his sister it's also a massive secret um what else I'll tell you one thing is I did not think Josh had it in him in the bedroom but he was more impressive than Alex and Reese put together I wow you know they had a great time to the point where I was literally hand over mouth like I can't believe what I'm reading like it was just so fun like I just had the best time reading it was so funny and so fun pure
Starting point is 00:08:40 bants like because they hated each other especially like for the first half of the book they basically hate each other it's funny like it's pure bants like oh it's just good i'm highly recommending it to anybody that sounds like they would enjoy that kind of thing but if you are more like a taboo like oh prude probably not for you but then again would you be listening to leah on the line if you were a prude probably not so you know then again would you be listening to lear on the line if you were a prude probably not so you know what you'd probably all love it you filthy bitches all right but this episode is just going to run like usual guys we have a weekly debate and some dilemmas lined up so i hope you're all feeling really really good let me know any book recommendations that i need to move on to because i have one left of the Twisted series. Thankfully, it's the
Starting point is 00:09:25 biggest one. I don't want these books to end. A lot of people have recommended that I read the other Anna Huang books. Apparently, like some of them are even better than the Twisted series. So I am tempted, but the covers are giving fantasy book. I haven't read into them. I've just literally seen the covers, but yeah, they're giving giving fantasy books and the way I struggled with just reading about a royal family in um Twisted Games definitely put me off fantasy books I was like yeah I didn't think I was a fantasy book kind of girl but the fact that I struggled even just reading about someone being queen I was like fuck me this is boring so yeah all right guys let's just get into the episode, shall we? Welcome to Leah on the Line. Join me every Tuesday as I dial your number for the
Starting point is 00:10:12 ultimate unfiltered bestie catch up. Whatever it is, we will laugh together and guide each other along the way. Head to leahontheline.com and follow Leah on the Line on Instagram to get involved. Love you. Okay, everybody. okay everybody so oh it's exciting i feel like we haven't done our usual episodes in ages even though it's probably literally the episode before last but we haven't done a weekly debate have we i feel like i don't even know so my question for you this week was do you slash can you judge a guy by his friendship group okay now let's just go straight in to see what you guys have to say because it is a fucking tough one let's be honest um no definitely not opposites attract and they can be in front and that can be in friend groups
Starting point is 00:11:02 as well yeah that is true that is true. That is true. Absolutely. He'll be like the people he surrounds himself with. Well, there you go. Yeah. You can and should, somebody says. Oh yeah, you know. Not entirely. My boyfriend has great morals and calls out his friends when they act questionably. Well, yeah, fucking king. You know, I love I love that yes you're a product of the people you surround yourself with you know what I kind of agree because in my experience like I don't become who I surround myself with but the people I surround myself with definitely have a huge huge impact on me whether that's my energy or like my you know like some people can be like drainers and suckers and they suck you know i mean they just suck not not like american like they suck i mean like they they literally suck right the life out of you i do get that like
Starting point is 00:12:04 sometimes you hang around with people and it's like it might not even be directed towards you it could literally just be a case of like they are you know like struggling or seem to be quite a half empty person glass half empty um not be able to see the bright side of things sometimes if you're around that too much like not be able to see the bright side of things sometimes if you're around that too much like it fucking it can rub off on you and you're like look everyone everyone's negative every now and then do you know what i mean i've been there you guys have had to listen to it you know like we're all in that space sometimes where you just can't see the fucking good things and you want to have a little whinge and just be like everything's shit like we we all get it but if people are like that
Starting point is 00:12:44 all the time and they talk about things like this all the time yeah I feel like it does have an impact on you so if that's true surely it is in the sense of dating as well like how they treat people and how they treat women or relationships whatever surely that's the same like if I'm surrounded by people who you know fuck people over and don't take dating seriously and don't consider other people's feelings surely I'm that's gonna rub off on me if I continue and continue and continue to choose to be around it you know and does it say something about me to enjoy their company hmm back to you guys.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yes, I believe you're a product of your environment and you pick up behaviors, et cetera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly what I'm thinking. Yeah, absolutely. Ultimately, you're gonna be spending time with them too. So it's important. You know what?
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yeah, first, because I was with somebody before whose friends were like on the surface, like really nice people, like, yeah, like really easy to talk to. I could be myself, like whatever. But then over time I'd see the group chats and I'd see how they talk when other girls aren't like their girlfriends aren't around or, you know, like I'd see messages that they send each other and I sort of started to think you know what you're actually like quite it was just given like a group of lads and like on the surface it didn't seem that way until you get too close because
Starting point is 00:14:21 you know if you live with them or like if you if you're part of the boys chat not not like the group chat as in like if you're around or in the room when boys are having like the boys chat sometimes it's a bit like hold on a minute so yeah I have been in in a situation where I'm like I don't it's not even that I don't like your friends because like like I said surface level I'm sure they're very nice people and that was my opinion of them that they are nice people but do I want you to have the same values as them no like when I saw how they spoke about girls or you know stuff like that I was a bit like you don't say that do you like you don't talk about me like that do you and like now in hindsight 100 he fucking did like without a fucking shadow of a doubt mate do you know what i mean i was
Starting point is 00:15:15 naive to think he didn't but yeah i was a bit like oh they really disrespect women but I've never heard you talk like that and then obviously as time goes on you see like oh actually you talk like that as well I've seen your texts do you know what I mean and you brush things off as banter but is that just because I'm there what do you you know how do you talk when I'm not there so you, you know what? Yeah, in my opinion, I think you can. Yes, boys are so easily influenced by each other. That's the thing. I think it's unusual for a guy to be like, no, I believe what you're doing is wrong. Do you know what I mean? Is that unusual? If he can stand being around a group of dicks he probably thinks their behavior is okay see this is the thing even if i'm if i don't turn out to be similar to you
Starting point is 00:16:12 even if i totally disagree with what you do like let's say let's take a random guy he hangs around with guys who cheat put fucking nudes in the group chat like all that horrible boyish dickhead behavior and my boyfriend can be nothing like that but you enjoy their company like to me they are like proper immature little rat boys yeah but you enjoy their company what does that say about you if you're even if you're nothing like them and you don't put your nudes in the group chat and you don't send screenshots of girls saying i would and and you don't disrespect me in the group chat say you're nothing like them but you enjoy their company but you can listen to that and it doesn't
Starting point is 00:17:03 make you itch that you can hear that the way they speak about that and it doesn't make you itch that you can hear that the way they speak about women and it doesn't make you go oh shut up you know that's a question um 100 you're a product of the environment yep absolutely my ex's mates used to cheat on her girlfriends it's just one friend if it's just one friend that's weird or rude etc i don't judge much but if it's all of them it's not a good sign great point great point i wouldn't want to but i think deep down i would my ex-boyfriend was so easily led by his friends it was not cute yeah like honestly it's not attractive like get fucking backbone babe yes people's influence can say a lot
Starting point is 00:17:45 about them i think you can judge them slightly but not fully their friend group comes into play yes i think they have a big impact on each other yes but as long as your boyfriend acts the same around you as them then it's okay see this is the thing i think this is where I was, you know, when I was just talking about my experience, I think this is where I struggled is I learn you're different when I'm around. Like the way you are with your mates is different when I'm around. And then it gets to the point where they don't want you around, their mates don't want you around because he's different around you. And I remember there was a moment where I was just at home and the guy I was with had been on a night out with his friends him and his friend came home and his friend was like oh bearing in mind I haven't I hadn't spoke
Starting point is 00:18:34 to him all night because he was just that boyfriend like I wouldn't hear from him on his nights out green flag and he was like oh yeah like he was chatting to girls all night like with it just with girls all night and I was like I always just brushed it off as a joke because I knew you were trying to get a rise out of me but it was more the grand scheme of things put me off who I was with so much because I was like this is your idea of pure banter like you think that is so funny and to be honest it got to the point where I was like it's probably not banter like you're probably you you probably most definitely are speaking to girls all night especially because he was single I was just like yeah you probably are like it got to the point where I was like this is so like unattractive to me like yeah you probably
Starting point is 00:19:20 was chatting to girls all night mate and the guy I was with would be like oh he's joking he's joking and I'll just be like honestly you and your fucking friend can fuck off like it's so embarrassing so yeah I actually do think you can because I I think a real man who gives a fuck about his girlfriend would never let that shit fly like if you if you was on a night out with Jamie right and you come home and you said oh yeah Jamie was chatting to girls all night he would shut that he would be like mate shut the fuck up like no I fucking wasn't and he would put his friend in his place to say like why you think it's funny to like make my girlfriend felt insecure like and that's that's the type of man I want do you know what I mean so I think you can judge a friend by a guy by his friends because it's what they allow it's what they find funny it's what they find acceptable however I do understand like we've said this
Starting point is 00:20:19 before like if my girlfriends was cheating on their boyfriends, that's not gonna make me a cheater. Like I'm not a cheater now because my friends are, but like I'm also not friends of people that would cheat or even have cheated. So it's like a weird point to make because I'm like, oh yeah, but like say Jess, she would fucking never, can I just say, Jess cheated on her boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Like I would never cut her off as my friend and that doesn't make me a cheater but then at the same time jess would never do that so it kind of does back up my point of like you are who you surround yourself with because even when i imagine my friends doing that i'm like but they also would never do that so i don't really know what my point is. So yeah, that is a great weekly debate. However, like I do think, to be fair, like if, if you're chatting to a guy, right. And he's like, oh, like all my mates are going to Ibiza this week, but I'm not going, I don't really fancy it. Is that like, oh, okay. Like you're friends of ib for boys like do
Starting point is 00:21:25 I want a friend that goes out with ib for boys I don't know do I want a boyfriend I mean that goes out of ib for boys not a friend it's a tough one like are we are we do we see it as a red flag or are we like nah I don't want to I don't want a boyfriend who hangs out with guys like that I don't want a boyfriend who like hangs out with people that cheat on their girlfriends. Like, is it a serious deal breaker or is it like a, not ideal? You guys will have to let me know in your experience. If you have any good stories, please send them in. Also on that note, if you do have any dilemmas, learontheline.com. But I've seen a couple of people saying that they're struggling with that. So I need to have a look at that. I have looked and I can't see any issues, but I'll check again.
Starting point is 00:22:13 If you do have any issues on the website, you can also email leahonthelineatgmail.com. And if you want to send pics or videos or screenshots or anything like that, send it to leahonthelineatgmailcom because i i don't think you can upload pictures on the website so yeah if you do want to send attachments leah on the line at gmail.com all right guys let's get into some dilemmas okay this one i'm just excited to hear the story to be honest okay should I hear out my ex who ghosted me or stick with my current boyfriend hey Leah I'm in a bit of a pickle and could really use your advice is that a British saying I'm in a bit of a pickle do Americans say that I'm in a
Starting point is 00:23:00 little pickle no I can I can hear that I always hiccup every episode um I'm in a little pickle no I can I can hear that I always hiccup every episode um I'm in a little pickle seriously wait no why do I always hiccup and then yawn it always happens it's so weird I swear I only that only happens when I record those so bizarre anyway back to the thing do Americans say I'm in a pickle I'm in a little bit of a pickle i can hear that you know my favorite word that americans say squirrel because they say it as just one syllable squirrel a squirrel a squirrel squirrel squirrel we sound so like British. Squirrel, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel. I just love it. Anyway, what the fuck, Leah?
Starting point is 00:23:49 Just get into the dilemma. Okay. I honestly, I haven't read this yet. I saved this immediately as soon as I heard the title. Okay. I'm in a bit of a pickle and could really use your advice. A couple of years ago, I was casually seeing two guys at the same time. Jake and Liam. I'm going to go ahead and change that to Jack.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Just for safety purposes. Okay. Both were great, but I had to make a choice. I ended up picking Jack because we had this intense electric chemistry. Oh, fantastic. We had dated for a few months and things were amazing until out of nowhere, he ghosted me. I was crushed, but I eventually moved on and started dating Liam. Okay. So you were seeing Jack and Liam at the same time. You actually chose Jack. He fucked you over and then you went back to Liam. Liam was still stood there waiting he said what about me and you said okay Liam and I have been together for a year and a half now and things are fantastic he's supportive loving and I see a real future with him okay great let's leave it there then
Starting point is 00:25:00 do you know what I mean um here's where it gets tricky I always knew Jack was my best friend's cousin but I hadn't seen him since the ghosting incident not the bestie's cousin shit he's gonna be around okay recently my best friend and I had a party together so naturally her family was there including Jack shit during the party jack kept pulling my best friend aside to tell her how much he regrets ghosting me yeah because i'm at this party looking fucking stunning mate that's why because you've seen me and i'm looking 10 out of 10 absolutely gorgeous drop dead gorgeous beautiful girl of course you regret it come on um how he's made a mistake and that he wants to apologize and make things right apology accepted thank you do you know what i mean my best friend being the nosy meddler she is
Starting point is 00:25:53 thinks i should at least hear him out and get some closure i'm i'm so confused by that jack even cornered me at the party apologizing and saying he was scared of how intense his feelings were and that's why he ghosted oh come on what'd you take me for do you think i'm a fucking idiot mate he asked if we could meet up and talk things through let me just make one thing clear to everybody listening if somebody now is saying to you i ghosted or I acted this way or I cheated on you or whatever it is that they did to fuck up because I was scared of how much I liked you because my feelings were so intense that it was scary because I've never felt this way about anyone before. Listen, it is the stupidest but most classic excuse in the book.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Let me tell you why. Because it butters you up. It makes you feel good. It makes you feel special. It makes them feel human. And it's easier to be forgiven. Because if someone makes you feel like, I'm so fucking stunning. I'm so unreal that he fell for me so hard that he couldn't even cope it
Starting point is 00:27:08 terrified him so much i'm so different to every other girl he's ever spoken to that he ghosted me you sound like an idiot we sound stupid okay we've all believed it we've all fucking believed it okay oh i did this because i was scared of how much i liked you and i was like i'm sorry it's a stupid lie it makes no fucking sense if you're scared of how you're how you're feeling you you you say hey i'm really scared about how i'm feeling right now you don't treat someone like shit it's rubbish mate right i'm torn on the one hand i'm incredibly happy with liam and i don't want to jeopardize what we have on the other hand i can't ignore that there's still a lingering spark with jack and part of me wonders if i should hear him out for closure's sake okay i'm gonna stop you there baby because you you've just said there's a lingering spark
Starting point is 00:28:07 and you want to hear him out for closure if you're hearing about for closure I'm just gonna go ahead and ask you what the spark has to do with it okay should I meet up with Jack to get closure or focus on my relationship with Liam and leave the past behind please help a girl out thanks a million love you lots love you love you love you listen i need to shake you and wobble you and say look this guy ghosted you he ghosted he made his fucking decision he made his bed there right he's only now decided oh i'm really shorty i'm, really shorty because we're at a party together. I look absolutely stunning 10 out of 10. Gorgeous because that's what I am. Like, you're sorry now. You're sorry now when you can see me, when we're just accidentally together
Starting point is 00:28:57 at a party. And if we weren't together at this party, would I get this apology? No. Would you be sorry? No. Are you sorry? No. Are you regretful because I look so fit? Yes. And I think we take that compliment of, it's killing him. He's seen me and it's killing him that he lost me and he fucked it. And we take that and that's all we need. I don't think you need closure. Like what, what can he say that is going to provide you with any closure? You said that you don't want to jeopardize. You said this yourself. I don't want to jeopardize my future with Liam. Then don't, then don't, don't show Jack any more interest because it's also a test. It also like how sexy am i as a man that i can fuck a girl over and she'll just come back to me when i say i regret it like i'm sorry you don't you don't
Starting point is 00:29:55 get to do that with me like i've moved on i'm being treated well and you're not that fit all right to the point where you can ghost me see me at a party and go oh I'm really sorry I shouldn't have done that and I'm gonna go really so you like really liked me is that what you're saying I'm like super beautiful and it was scary that's so nice no we're gonna say like listen if even if you want to have the conversation with him have it if it's for you if it's for your ego, I get it. Same. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:27 Me too, girl. But don't give him anything. Like it's, you always have to remember, guys can say anything. They can say anything. They can say, I regret it. I literally haven't slept since I've been thinking about you for a year and a half. Bullshit. It's such bullshit.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Like, I'm sorry. That's soshit. Bullshit. Like, I'm sorry. That's so sweet. Lies. Like, go away. Stop disrupting my peace. You don't have that much control and power over me. It's been a year and a half. Don't disrupt. Don't disrupt my peace. I'm happy. Yeah, of course you regret it because I'm absolutely unreal. Of course you regret it. Why wouldn't you? I already know that. You didn't need to tell me that this is the mentality we need to adopt okay I'm telling you now so yeah you say you don't want to jeopardize things with Liam so all I have to say is just don't focus on yourself Jack just wants a bit fucking validation from you like honestly no thanks not interested thank you it's been a year and a half you had a year and a half to apologize like it's too late so yeah love you you just think just remember you deserve better
Starting point is 00:31:30 than that you deserve liam and liam deserves better so then then you to go and like secretly meet up with jack or anything like that so you know i love you babe all right let's do this one first off you're my fave influencer queen your podcast makes me laugh wherever I am you're slaying it live thank you thank you thank you thank you I have a bit of a silly fear of planes and my boyfriend wants to go on our first holiday but I've never been on holiday without my mum or by myself I also have a bit of health anxiety that I'm worried if I go out to another country something will happen and no one out there will be able to help. My fear of flying is to do with taking off. I hate that feeling so much I actually cry. I'm wondering if you could offer
Starting point is 00:32:16 any advice as this fear is really bad to the point where I don't get excited to go on holiday. I really want to say fuck it I'm only young once but I'm too scared and I really just want to stay at home okay I can relate I I can seriously seriously relate I had my first holiday last year where I didn't feel like intense fears that was the first time I've been on holiday and not felt like that level of fear and to be honest I think it's one of these things, the more you do it, the easier it gets. It is that case of like, if just fucking going for it and just facing it and finding things that make you feel better. Cause I'm exactly the same. I hate the takeoff as well. Even the landing, I'm just squeezing my eyes shut. Like, come on, come on, we got this. my eyes shut like come on come on we got this and yeah so what I like to do is I like to keep myself busy on the takeoff I used to shut the window because I don't want to see I don't want to watch
Starting point is 00:33:13 um and I used to get an episode of friends saved downloaded headphones in and I'm starting the episode before we've taken off I also found a lot of comfort in the fact that there's people I always tell myself people fly to work every day like my old musical theatre agent she didn't even live in England she used to fly to London like four days a week to come to the office bearing in mind it was only like an hour flight but still not great for the environment now I think about it babe but people fly like every single day and what if you're going on like one holiday a year you're going to do it once you're going to do two flights and people fly fly daily the pilot for sure flies every single day pretty much and I found comfort in that just thinking like god I'm so petrified and I build myself up to this one flight that's you know like
Starting point is 00:34:16 the one holiday I'm going on this year and I build it up for so long and people do this in their sleep like people do this in their sleep also once I think I'd been on a plane that was like severely turbulent and I realized I was fine then. Definitely made it easier. I think it literally is one of those things that it does get better with practice and the more you do it. And you deserve this holiday like you deserve these happy memories and the beautiful sun or wherever it is you're going you deserve it and it's a couple of hours in the sky for a beautiful week or 10 days or two weeks however long you're going for of memories with your boyfriend and it's it's telling yourself i'm capable and just saying book book it say to your boyfriend book the fucking
Starting point is 00:35:12 holiday and i will worry about the flight when i get there when when i'm at the airport or however long before that the panic starts settling in that i'm gonna be on a plane next week fucking but if you just do you know what book the holiday just book it let's just book it and then let's say right I've booked it for October I'll start thinking about it in October you know I'm not going to worry about it till October and then October's going to come around and we're going to do any prep that we need to do for your anxiety pre-flight whether that be make sure you've got your favorite snacks make sure you've got your favorite snacks, make sure you've got a nice cold bottle of water with you, your favorite TV show downloaded,
Starting point is 00:35:52 your favorite book, a packet of playing cards, your favorite snacks, did I already say that? Whatever it is, hard-boiled sweets to stop your ears from popping, a nice comfortable, expensive, like treat yourself to a proper bougie neck pillow so your ears from popping a nice comfortable expensive like treat yourself to a proper bougie neck pillow so you can just have a nice sleep and you're going to be with your boyfriend and like boyfriends make you feel safer don't they and just have this conversation with him of like look i'm really scared i'm gonna need you especially during takeoff i'm gonna need you to get me through this and And I'm sure he will. And the thing is, is you can do it. Like, that's what you have to keep telling yourself. And that's
Starting point is 00:36:29 what I always tell myself is like, I can do this. Like I can, I can get on a fucking flight and I can go for a beautiful holiday. I can. Yeah, I can. I'm lucky that I can. And I will. And you, you can, you will, and you should. And,, and I personally am challenging you to book this holiday and have an amazing time, and I can't wait to hear all about it. Love you, babe. All right, I am actually going to wrap up this episode here, you guys, so let's wrap it up. Stay for the outro. Sorry, you guys, it's actually a really short one today i just realized i will make next week's extra long to make up for it if there's anything in particular that you want to chat about that isn't dilemmas or a weekly debate send it in i saw somebody send in a suggestion of talking about
Starting point is 00:37:21 like finances which i thought was quite fun and quite different especially because we're at that age where I say all the time like we're like trying to recover from financial debt that we put ourselves in at like 18 to 21 so yeah I thought that was a fun idea so let me know if you want to talk about it and anything else that you guys would be interested in talking about um anything that we might have spoken about before that you'd like a whole new episode on um if you also enjoy just like let me know if you enjoy the book talk let me know if you enjoy like last week where we just spoke about the white fox party and it wasn't like a dilemmas episode it was literally just like a normal chit chat episode let me know if you guys enjoy that because I actually had a great time doing
Starting point is 00:38:00 that and I feel like it was quite fun just to like not even have a plan with an episode and not even have like a structure or you know like any uh what's it called like screenshots dilemmas like insta stories like nothing to go off and just like sit here and just ramble really naturally like I really enjoyed that so let me know if you guys would want more of that and if so what about um and yeah I hope you guys all have an amazing week whatever is that you're getting up to i miss you guys already and i'll speak to you guys on tuesday for a brand new episode all right i love you bye

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