Leave A Message with Ally & G - 1 - The Speed Dial You Never Knew You Needed
Episode Date: March 6, 2024It's the first episode of Leave A Message! Ally & G are here to share the stories, dramas and dilemmas sent in by the Gallies... and we're starting how we mean to go on with water-spitting worthy stor...ies. This week Ally & G are exploring all things female friendships. What do you do when you're feeling totally alone in your friendship group? How do you handle a friend talking about you behind your back? The best friendships might be the imperfect ones, but Ally & G are here to help you break free from your toxic situations! Want to be a part of the group chat and featured on the pod? Send your voice note to https://wa.me/message/LLWFXNK4YXMHE1 (and please, don’t leave out ANY of the juicy details). NOTICE: Any advice provided in this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute professional advice or guidance; all information, content and materials presented are for entertainment purposes only. Any injury, damage or loss that may result from the consumption of this podcast is at the sole responsibility and risk of the listener. Follow Ally & G Instagram: @allyandg TikTok: @allyandg YouTube: @allyandg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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🎵 🎵 🎵 🎵 🎵 🎵 In another world, I could have been like one of those garage MCs. Do you know what I mean? A to the B to the...
Craig David.
It's L to the E to the A to the B to the E.
Leave a message.
That's what they do.
I went to Bristol.
I don't know if you know.
Yeah, I forget that about you.
Not a lot of people would expect Bristol from you.
Do you know who My New Leng is?
Sorry, this is a really bad opening.
Bad tangent.
Go on.
My New Leng.
Soul shake.
And it came on the radio this morning
and I was like in my room like,
douche, douche, douche.
Back in your uni days,
your bad gal era.
Bad gal era.
Right.
We're not here to talk about My New Leng.
We're actually here to talk about our new podcast.
Leave a message.
So each week we're going to explain to you
what the podcast is. to you what the podcast is
what the purpose is
what the purpose is
why the hell
you've chosen to listen
to us today
very good to have a why
that's what we've decided
as you move through this world
I'm going to try and sell you
every week on this podcast
so I'm a bit of a
you know
teacher's pet
so I've actually written something
but I only wrote it on the tube
on my way in
so it wasn't like super prepared
that's the difference
between me and her
I would never do that
in my entire life
but that's good you're a good ad libber yeah I can do it off the cuff babe I can just do it off the cuff on my way in so it wasn't like super prepared that's the difference between me and her i would never do that my entire life but that's good you're a good ad libber yeah i
can do it off the cuff babe i can just do it off the cuff it's just so you were saying that so with
your chest and then you're a bit like well no i'm a bit embarrassed shouldn't say it too hard
give us your elevator pitch for this podcast welcome to leave a message with ali and g
the speed dial you never knew you needed reporting for duty as admins of the world's juiciest, unfiltered,
anything goes group chat. Here to listen, laugh and marvel at your daily thoughts, dilemmas
and antics. Let's go.
Very good. I couldn't have ad-libbed that. That's really good. That's really good.
Come on.
Well done, babe.
Come on, the gals.
Come on, the gals. Come on, the galleys. Welcome to the pod.
Sorry it's taken us so long to do this.
I know.
We know everyone's been gagging for it.
Yeah, but sometimes a good thing takes...
What's that saying?
Sometimes a good thing takes...
Good things worth waiting for take a while to wait for.
Good things take time.
Good things come to those who wait.
No, it's like a diamond takes a million years to grow.
A diamond's the thing about pressure. like a diamond takes a million years to grow the diamond's the
thing about pressure like a diamond exists under pressure yeah let's go with that that's we have
been under pressure under pressure do do do do do do do do do do do do it only felt right that
our first episode would be about female friendship because i feel like we are the champions and the spearheads.
Is that the right word?
I like it.
Go with it.
The spearheads of female friendships
and like the good, the bad, the ups, the downs,
all the ugly, all the pretty.
Like, it's something.
I'm talking about you and me, babe.
I know, which one am I?
The ugly, probably.
Just taking a guess.
Don't worry about it.
You pick.
Depends on the day, to be fair.
You should have seen me this morning.
No, babe.
I was in a world of trouble.
I woke up and I thought,
well, I look like I've been dead five years.
Honestly, I looked,
when I say rough, like really...
No, when it's sad,
when you take your makeup off
and you think, oh, there I am.
Who's that?
Who the fuck is that?
Yeah.
And you're looking back at me.
Babe, you're allowed to swear on the podcast.
I know, guys.
No. Go out, fuck. No, pastor jar on this fucking podcast okay okay okay no we want to talk about female friendships
because like basically our whole dms is questions about friendship yeah well questions about
friendships and questions about like boys being like being like wanky and i don't like to generalize
but like generally the questions are about wanky boys and wanky friends sure and i just feel like
everyone's looking to us even though i don't know why everyone thinks we have the answer because we
don't we we should actually put that disclaimer out that we are not professionals oh yeah that
was any advice we give is not don't take it at face value exactly with a. With a pinch of salt, I'd say, and with no credentials.
No.
Because we don't have them.
We really are just making it up.
And I think that that's the thing that people...
Sometimes I think that we make it look really fun and shiny.
But, like, we fight all the time.
All the time.
We get on each other's tits all the time.
As, like, it's normal.
And I think it's really rare to see people doing that, like, out in the world.
And everyone thinks, oh, my God, everyone has these perfect friends. Yeah, and it's not perfect. No people doing that, like, out in the world, and everyone thinks,
oh, my God, everyone has these perfect friends.
Yeah, and it's not perfect.
No, and actually the best friendships
are the imperfect friendships.
Say it again, sister!
Okay, hold on.
Sometimes the best friendships are the imperfect ones.
I liked it.
You're going with it, and it's good.
It's very good.
So anyway, so that's why we're here.
We wanted, well, that's not why we're here.
We're here to make a load of cash
and to get loads of people to subscribe to us.
Well, we won't always talk about female friendships as well.
No, that's why this podcast is about,
this episode is about female friendships.
Yeah.
It's something that we really, really feel
really passionate about.
Absolutely.
Spreading the good word of the good people.
Do you know what I mean?
Exactly.
Oh, and that's another point that we should highlight.
Address.
Thank you.
What's that?
That this podcast
is going to be
centred around
voice notes
voice notes
from you guys
listeners
the galleys
the galleys
we wouldn't be here
without you
we love you
we want you to feel
like you're on this
journey with us
and be such an
integral part of
this podcast
that basically
you are the
fucking podcast
yeah basically
we're lazy
and you've got
the best content
so we're going
to rack them up
we basically
had no other ideas so we just sort of let them do it for us.
But also, our DMs are popping.
No, it's...
They're juicy.
Isn't it just?
They're exciting.
The stories, my God, it's just unfair not to share that with the general public.
I know, and sometimes we read them and we're like, oh my God, people have to see this.
Yeah.
That's what the point of this whole podcast is for.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shall we get into it?
Let's do it, babe.
Okay, first voice note then, Lara.
We're ready. Hi, galleys. Long time watcher here. is for yeah yeah should we get into it let's do it babe okay first first voice note then lara we're
ready hi galleys long time watcher here um i'd like some advice on feeling alone in your female
friendships particularly in your early 20s feeling like you don't have your one solid person that you
can always go to and everyone else has got theirs and you're just kind of floating alone
love you well so what's this girl's name so each week for the voice notes we're going to use a
galley name this week all the voice notes are from olivia because there were so many olivias
oh my god olivia's everywhere sorry i know that that like it's a lovely name but like that was
an advert for me never to like meet anyone why were there so many Olivias there? I like it.
It's a good name.
And everyone's like, ask Olivia.
And I'm like, which one?
Olivia is a tricky one.
Is it always a Liv to shorten to?
Sorry?
Olive?
Liv?
Liv.
Livia?
Livy?
Yeah, maybe it's Olivia.
Liv, whatever.
Anyway, this is Olivia 1.
Olivia 1.
So she's alone and she's feeling, what did she say?
You wrote something down and I didn't do any of that.
See what I mean?
Teacher's pet and all that.
Have you got your whiteboard?
Yes, babe, I've got it here,
but I'm actually just being in the moment
and listening for real.
But do you remember what she said?
She said, I feel alone.
She said, I'm feeling alone
and I feel like everyone's got their friends
and I don't have that.
Yeah, about having like your one person.
I think it comes down to what you said
about like you always think
that people have something
that they don't necessarily have.
Yeah.
Like even having one person,
that's not, if I just had Al in my life,
amazing, I'd be so grateful and lucky,
but then it wouldn't work.
I wouldn't get everything I needed from one person.
And I think we're like just shown all the time,
like groups of gals having a good time out and about
and like best friends and this
is the era of female friendships and even us calling this podcast episode just to like contradict
ourselves it is like basically it's something to like admire and to aspire to but it's not
something that is like easily found or guaranteed it can be really hard to find your people also i think everyone has this
idea i don't know where we've all got this idea that everyone needs to have that one friend that
they do everything with and they go to brunch or then they go out with and they call like every
minute of the day and i think i think that people look at us and think that we do that we do that
because we work together yeah and like you might be looking at everyone else having that, but they might be actually hating
each other and bitching about each other. What you see is not what's always real to point to
what you've said. And I say this, like, I would say this about friends. And I would say this about
partners to one person should never give you everything because otherwise, because otherwise,
if that person lets you down, your whole world crumbles. Yeah. And like, you need to be able to rely on other people for different things.
And I always say this, sometimes you have friends that are like, you know, the people
that you call when you're up shit's creek with no paddle.
Or sometimes you have the friends that are like the best fun on a night out.
And they don't have to be the same person.
No, well, often they're not.
Yeah.
Also, like you said about, you know, you don't always get deep friendships.
Like sometimes it's not even that you're bitching about each other or you're not actually good friends.
It's just that you're a bit surface level.
And like, that's okay.
Like sometimes you have like work friends, for example.
Yeah.
You don't necessarily want to hang out.
That's a really good example.
With your work friends all the time, but you love them at work.
And they're all circumstantial.
We talk about this all the time about like having circumstantial friends and like you know finishing uni and feeling like oh i didn't
take a group of girls with me it doesn't it i do really believe god sorry my phone's not on do not
disturb babe oh my god what kind of professionalism is this i don't know that i am very professional
actually i stand by that yeah i can clearly see that sorry about that it was just no one else
no one else messages me my My DMs are so dry.
Well, they're not.
They are.
Babe, that's a topic for a bit.
For the mandem,
no one's there.
It's horrible.
Babe, don't lie.
In my DMs.
Oh, that is fake news.
Get in my DMs now
and tell me one boy
that's messaged me.
Not one.
Really?
Tumbleweed.
Oh, yeah.
She was going to message,
what's his name?
Or from one day.
Guys, I'm genuinely... No, she's waiting to get to 10K to message, what's his name off on one day? Guys, I'm genuinely...
No, she's waiting to get to 10k on Instagram.
What's his name?
Leo something?
She's waiting to get to 10k on Instagram.
Does anyone know his name?
What's his name?
Leo Woodle.
Leo Woodle!
So she's waiting to get to 10k
so she can get a blue tick
and then slide into Leo Woodle's team.
It's the truth.
It's the God on us and I'm just shameless.
At Leo Woodle, you'll never hear this.
Or maybe you will
but look out for it
it's just so fair
you better be checking
your DM requests
every single god damn day
every god damn day
okay advice for if you
really are feeling like
you're floating alone
like where can you go
what can you do
like how are we finding
why do we do that thing
with your like
shoulder
I don't know
I'm just like
giving a little
je ne sais quoi
just like
probably a nervous twitch
that you've just
outed me of advice okay so i would say people ask this
one time the biggest advice i would give is especially when you like i think at school and
at uni you can feel you can find people even if they're not your forever people they're people
that you can like get through three years do you know what i mean yeah and sometimes you need that
that's the circumstantial people and you just make that work but I think when you get a bit older and
especially if you live in a city like I know London for a lot of people can feel really lonely
yeah I think the biggest piece of advice I would give is first of all go and do things that are
like out of your comfort zone to do on your own yeah like go to places go to places where you know
that like single like not single people but
like people hang out like coffee shops or like there are always those like mixers or whatever
you know like even like you recently started bar like if there was a girl next to you it was your
age you know your maths are quite close you could be like hi babe where are you from and by the way
lots of people do that lots of girls and they chat in the gyms lots of girls now are like oh yeah we met
in the gym like go and do things like there are things that you might do every day for example
that you think oh i would never meet friends there you never know you never know open yourself up to
you we always say this about like um being having a meet meet cute with a guy in a coffee shop but
it's like you could do that with a friend yeah oh absolutely even more likely probably because i think like girls are like open totally and we met like that as well like we yeah we did
everyone right okay we need to put this story out there for the world to hear because everyone's
always asking us the world needs to hear everyone's always asking us how did we meet and the truth of
it is so we both worked at this not even we didn't even work there yet we went to an open day sorry
yeah that's true.
That's where we met.
So we...
Well, there is this community radio station
in South London
called Riverside
that we both wanted to get involved with
and we both went to the open day
and both of us now tell this story
and I was like,
she walked in
and I literally clocked her
the second that she walked in
and I was like,
yep, she's cool
and I want to be her friend.
Can I say,
this is so weird,
when I try and like,
I don't know whether my memory is just like crazy probably yeah but when i remember
you you don't look like you no i do you have the same yes because i literally when i think of the
girl i met that day it's not you now no i know so i don't know what my memory's done okay can i tell
you what that is though that's because you probably like had an idea of who I was. Yes, and now I know you. And now you know me and I don't look like that person.
Yeah.
Because I'm not that person to you.
Isn't that strange?
Funny.
But the point is,
the point is,
go to your community radio station.
Sorry, the point is,
we met at a community radio station
on an open day.
I actually was the brave one.
We both liked each other,
but I text out.
Which is really unlike us.
Now, I would say that normally,
actually, no, maybe not.
No, you would forget
no also i just say well i would just say oh will you come to me yeah you are you're so hard to get
and i just don't care shameless and i messaged you yeah i was like we should go for a coffee
i remember going home as well and being like to brawl oh my god there was this really cool girl
and she had this machino bag i know everything you want i know you know bag trench coat what
how do you remember that i just i have such a visual memory i even know what i was wearing and she had this machino bag I know everything you wore machino bag trench coat what?
how do you remember that?
I can tell you what you remember I have such a visual memory
I even know what I was wearing
do you?
yeah I was wearing
that blue Zara coat
that everyone's
passed their pants over
which one?
it's like a duvet
like that bright blue one
oh yeah yeah yeah
and anyway
and I went home
and I was like
she was wearing
the coolest outfit
and like I just really
want to be her friend
and we were like
oh like whatever basically
like why are you telling me this
anyway now look classic now he's our boyfriend rules response to everything why are
you telling me this don't care if you're feeling lonely seek out like make an effort to seek out
friends in places you wouldn't think to find friends yeah but also places that you know that
there's gonna be people with shared interests like you yeah yeah and also not like you
actually and also you're not alone babe we're releasing content monday wednesdays and fridays
these days so uh don't worry about it oh yeah you're not alone sorry i thought you i didn't
know where you're going with that no i'm just saying like i know it can feel really lonely to
feel like for sure everyone has their person but you don't need that one person it's what i'm trying
to say you can find your people in lots of different ways and that's really bad okay i hope that helped voice no number dos
i've been following you guys for a while and i absolutely love you guys so when i saw this
on my field page i was like i have to so me and this girl were friends for seven plus years she
was my best friend and we this is a while ago now we started college and obviously became
friends with other girls they're my closest friends now i love them to bits and we come to find out
bit of drama i get a boyfriend she then resents me for getting a boyfriend because i only get
similar weekends so i see her every single day that just isn't enough for her and she starts
talking about me making sure that you know doing things without me and being like oh i'm
doing this with everybody but you're not invited you know I'm really like just mean girl shit and
then we come to find out that to each one of us she's been talking shit about the other
person to everyone.
Both of those are us too.
So I find this out and then one day I'm just like you know what I'm fucking done so I decided
to text her saying we need to talk and then she tried to you know call
victim and be like oh but you need to apologize i want you to apologize to me because i've been so
worried and i was like no you're in the wrong and i got that point across and since that confrontation
i have not spoken a single word to her go to the same college almost finished going to uni in
september but we have not spoken a single word to one another since then and for some reason
because since then I found out more things she said to me I don't know if I'm being a bit of
bitch but I just want to confront her again I don't know what it is oh and me and the other
girls involved we didn't end up all getting to the kind of say our piece for this bitch that
basically you know ruined any and all friendships and yeah just want to know your opinion if it should be possibility
or if i should just kind of leave in the past i don't really think about her i'm over it but yeah
i want to know what you guys think i love that this bitch i don't really think about it i'm over
it olivia too is a legend she's so good oh my god i love you and also you and me are the same person
yeah we're gonna have very different opinions all right yeah because i would just say fuck her
fuck her mom and like honestly fuck her dog like what is that what a fucking cow i'm sorry i just
think okay the first thing is actually what's the main the first thing is that you have been friends
for seven seven plus years and i've been through this not in the same way like i we didn't like i
you know we i didn't she didn't go around bitching about me but we just sort of drifted i've had that
with a lot of people actually.
It's hard.
Everyone fucking hates me,
basically.
What's the common denominator?
I don't know.
Do you know someone,
babe,
fuck you because you're going to be next
and then all of this
is going to come crashing down.
What are you going to do?
You're going to sit here
on your own every fucking week?
No,
you're stuck with me.
We signed a shareholders agreement.
Get over it.
Can't drift from me.
Yeah,
no,
people actually say this all the time. Like, what happens if one of you just left and i was like no you we actually can't
we're actually legally married to each other it's like those couples that just stay together when
they just don't live together they hate each other yeah and they just turn up at appearances they're
like babe pretending they're shagging oh my god no it's heartbreaking it is heartbreaking to feel like you lost someone that
was your person for so long and that you grew up with especially if you were at uni and you went to
school and well also there's this weird thing isn't there where we know with relationships that
to end them you have to have the conversation of a breakup whereas with like what what's funny
my husky voice sounds like you've been giving
blowjobs for 12 hours straight i wish i can't find anyone to let me give them a blowjob anyone
if anyone wants a blowjob we're free we are offering them freely out on this podcast no i
do need to get a grip of my voice it just goes it's the first thing to go what when you put a
dick in your mouth yeah it's really babe can you stop
rubbing it in
I'm not having any sex
because it's really
getting to me
babe that's actually
fake news
because you literally
had sex two weeks ago
that's once
with one person
that never spoke to you again
doesn't really count
babe that was more recently
than me and I've been
with my boyfriend
for seven years
no it wasn't
because I came over
the other day
and there was empty packets
I don't know what was
happening in that room
but something was going down
that's all I'll say
well it wasn't with me
so I wonder who
he's been having around dildo on the side
sorry um me and my blowjob voice were just trying to say like she's had a conversation she's had a
confrontation but she hasn't been like i think we need to break up no and it's like you almost need
that closure but you never have it i actually disagree in this situation that girl's been
bitching about her but then she needs to say i'm breaking up with you i don't care about you
anymore what does she say in the chat shit about me but i'm over it no but this is the thing i okay
i like the fact that you confronted her because lots of people wouldn't have done that and that's
a really big thing to do and also everyone just bitching about each other behind each other's
backs it's like bad vibes no but that's what i mean like if she shows you her colors i've done
this all my life and i've
only really like just started like in the last five years closed myself when people show you
their true colors fucking believe them like you can believe and like hope for the best in people
nine times out of ten if she's shown you who she is once she will do it again and no matter what
to a certain extent yeah because you trust people
more easily not even about trusting people but i just think like communication is a beautiful thing
and if this friend felt abandoned by you because you got a boyfriend and you only spent time with
your boyfriend but i would say that that's a problem why are you feeling that way babe if i
suddenly fucked off and never saw you again because i was with my boyfriend all the time
you would be like babe you're not showing me any attention but i would have said something she didn't say that she just
communication on her part first off well also the other person could have been like being a bit cold
what's wrong because you don't realize because you're in like the love bubble with your new
boyfriend and i think that's not necessarily the the you know the bitch in olivia's words um it's
not necessarily her showing true
colors she could still be your friend of seven years still be a good person who's hurt and acting
really badly there might be a conversation to be had yes she doesn't sound like it went well she
might be that person but she might not and that's what i'm trying to say is that obviously best case
scenario is you go and you say that worst case scenario is she's like you know you do she doesn't
see that I think she might sit down and say oh but you you know like you only see your boyfriend
and you have to kind of you know that's a part of growing up when you start when your friends start
to get in relationships of like navigating the new normal of your new friend like the new situation
and circumstances of your friendship yeah it's all communication but sadly lots of
people like don't want to have that conversation they don't want to hear it they just want to like
they just want to have what they've always had with you yeah you know but even the girl with
the boyfriend it's really hard because it's like well i want to see him at the weekend so then
that's a horrible conversation to have like yes it's a horrible conversation to have and i agree
obviously if you fucked off and i never saw you i would be like well what the fuck but i do think you have to give your friends a bit of grace for
sure and like you know especially as you grow up yeah life gets busy and everyone's just like
figuring it out for themselves yeah and we really forget that people are just you know you feel like
you need that person but they might feel like they need to find out who they are in this relationship
more importantly right now doesn't mean it's forever i mean moral of the story girls you've got to talk to each other
not behind each other's back yeah don't it's not a vibe but also if you don't if you're genuinely
not thinking about her or maybe you're just saying that like me and i'm like i don't fucking care
and i really deeply care it's like a fucking stab in my heart sobbing myself to sleep i don't care about
that bitch i don't fucking care oh my god whatever i just don't care um if you're if you are actually
feeling though like you don't care then just don't care and move on with your life yeah maybe you
don't need the breakup maybe you don't need to say we're over only if you want to salvage your
relationship do you need to have a conversation if you couldn't give a fuck about her or her dog
then who cares yeah and also don't go back just to be like you're a bitch like just let her be a bitch not your battle to fight you know if she wants to be a cow let her
be a cow i would say the opposite well you'd want to tell her i would say listen you little bitchy
cow you'd go for the double i wasn't enough i would do both you're a bitch who the fuck do
you think you are walking around talking about me like that get my name out your mouth yeah
take my fucking name out your fucking mouth isn't that what will smith said
take my wife's name out your fucking mouth sorry that is the best moment to have ever happened
i mean not really because he did slap chris rock in front of it was a joke well chris rock didn't
seem to think it was very fucking funny do you think it was a scare no babe to this day i think
it's a joke no babe a bit of improv are you joking chris rock went out and was like i what i honestly thought he was gonna like knock
me yeah i mean that was wild that was wild don't do that we don't condone violence no no definitely
don't do that but do you got you know i you can say your piece yeah oh yeah listen you can say
your peace girls talking about this in therapy yesterday oh go on about like how i can't do that
i can't just walk away oh i was gonna say you can't say your piece no no no i can't walk away and just like let things
lie and he was like why do you feel the need to do that because you want the last word yeah and i
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Hi, here's my female friendship dilemma. So last year, me and my friends were planning a girl's holiday for the summer.
One of my friends, let's call her girl A, has a holiday house, so we decided we could go there.
A few months later, I got a message from her about flight prices. She said that it would be £800 for an hour and a half flight.
And then she said she hadn't heard back from anyone else because it was probably too expensive.
So I told her just to keep me updated, just so I can know what everyone else is thinking before I make a decision. I then heard nothing back from her so
I just presumed it wasn't going to happen because of the price. A few months later something caught
my eye on my other friend's phone when she was showing me a picture. It was a group chat called
holiday 2023. I thought nothing of it at the time because why would they go on holiday without
someone after inviting them? So I just ignored it. I presumed I was overthinking. Then in June,
so the previous night I'd left my stuff at girl A's house, and then I wasn't
feeling well the next day so she offered to drop it round for me in the morning.
When she dropped it round, she then told me she was sorry about the whole France thing,
but her mum has fucked it up, and then she said some confusing stuff about her mum not
going so that then they were going with her grandparents.
I presume that meant there were too many people going so they had to lose someone.
I was in kind of shock, and I don't like conversations so I didn't do anything at the time, so we
just said bye and then she left. A few days later i saw the post from this holiday
in the pictures it was the group that we'd originally planned the holiday with but with
someone else there instead of me so like i said i don't like competition so i never brought up
after that either but recently she's been organizing a lot of other meetups without me
but with all of our friends i don't know i don't know what to do about this because on top of
everything we go to a really small college so there's not really space to make new friends
outside of your initial group what's your view on the situation i'd love to know
your opinion thanks bye babe ditch her like a fucking hot potato that's my advice olivia three
is literally me i don't like she said i don't like confrontation 55 times can't even confront
the fact that she doesn't like confrontation i can't even think about that conversation i would
die really i mean not now I'm older, but like...
Now she's a pensioner, she would do it.
Yeah, like now I'm 85, I could probably do it.
And like face for the Botox, you know what I mean?
Now she would.
Oh, there's so much to unpacking that.
No, and babe, the good thing about the Botox, by the way...
Oh, unpacking the Botox?
No.
Oh, in the voice note?
Sure.
I was just going to say, confrontation.
They won't know if you're crying because your face won't move.
My face, my Botox is just like honestly drained from me.
It lasts about five minutes.
I know.
It's because I do so much cardio.
God, that's bad.
Do you know what?
This, I'm kind of like in a juxtaposition as well because I want...
You're in a juxtaposition now.
Yeah, well, I just want this episode.
Like, I feel like some of my female friendships have honestly like healed me from the outside in.
Like, I gain so me from the outside in like
i gain so much from the really good friends in my life yeah but when it goes wrong my god it is like
painful but on that actually being left out like that is the most hurtful thing in the world that's
happened exact situation holiday the holiday well yeah two holidays actually that exact same we were on a group chat the four of us
and then i went away and then didn't hear from them for like two months not quite the same because
i hadn't been asked but then like july comes around and i see them all on a yacht and then
like in all not a yacht on a yacht oh my god damn you're you didn't miss out can you imagine the
fucking instagram pictures i could have got there jesus christ for you man but it is like the number one thing that you feel is you
feel like there's something wrong with me so the thing is and that's what i just want to say is i
know it's there's nothing wrong with it's a weird thing that happens like so many girls have this
of a time in their life where they can go yeah i just got excluded from a group and no one knows why yeah it's bizarre i just really really really want to make sure that you
can hear us loud and clear when we say it is not about you yeah it's about something in them and i
still think this about that group of girls about myself something in them makes sorry something in
you makes them not feel good about themselves when you're around and so
they cannot have you around them it's an insecurity in them that you bring up in them and so when
they're around you they feel like a shit aversion of themselves it's not a hundred percent i suppose
there's like some elements of that i just wonder whether sometimes it's just like for the sake of
it no because genuinely i think some people just decide one day not to like
person b for no reason no but it's not for no reason it's something inside them has decided
that there's something about that about you that they don't yeah yeah yeah it's not for no reason
that's my point but it's not because you're a bitch or you're a bad person you're a shit friend
or any of that or you're boring or like any of it it's just but also even if they
find you boring then they're not your people and i like that's fine like if they find you boring
if they find you too loud too jarring not funny enough like whatever it is okay like that i think
as well like what you said about the female friendships in your life have enriched you
a hundred percent but we always say this we would rather be like alone than surrounded by
shit friends handful we say handful all the time no max and like that's on one hand one hand if you
can if you can have a birthday dinner and sit around a table with like eight people and you
can count you can say with confidence that you love and trust every single one of those people
they bury a body with you yeah then like you're luckier than most people because most people don't have
that many good friends yeah you can't have more than one so like i just four five i don't know
how many do you have people i could bury a body with i reckon i've got four no i'd say really
yeah the body thing through makes i've got some dark ones in there,
some dark horses that would be really good at that.
I know, Raw doesn't really count,
but then I guess he's two.
You're allowed to say Raw's your best friend.
I know he's not a female, but he is.
Probably then I've got three, maybe four.
Was either maybe.
But the point is that it doesn't,
if you, what was my point?
What is the point? What was my point what is the point what was my
point wait sorry go back to what you just said i was gonna say something really profound god damn
it why does it have been that profound if you lost it so easily sometimes this happens babe um what
would i do in that situation i would i would just like drift away and never see you again thank you
very much you should get through college get your head down and then make some good friends at uni no but you should okay no but you should say something
i would say guys it was a bit rogue that you it was more than a bit rogue rude rogue rude um
i'm a people pleaser i don't know let's practice what you she will do the practicing because she
is actually a people pleaser she can't do confrontations so as someone in that ilk
what should what like use your strength babe we talked about this last week. Come on. Okay, I've got my power.
Wait a minute.
Come on, get your power.
I was really hurt by the fact that you invited me on a holiday,
and then you didn't even tell me I was uninvited.
You just made up the fact that Skyscanner had had a stroke
and made flights five times.
800 pounds to France.
What?
The cost doesn't count.
And actually, I didn't want to come on your holiday anyway.
Look, shit. And I don't want to be a friend anymore. So, I didn't want to come on your holiday anyway. Look, shit.
And I don't want to be a friend anymore.
So, goodbye.
Baby, you would never say that.
Maybe I would.
Maybe I'm in, like, my strong gut here.
I don't know.
Do it.
Please do it.
Because, like,
you owe yourself at least that.
Do you know what?
That has been the message
of all three of those voice notes
is that you have just got to know
what a good friend is to you and then just have them
just have them just have them i say this about friendships as much as i say this about
relationships you know when you just know yeah you know when you just know that someone's good
for you they get it or someone's bad for you and like if you're constantly coming up against these
sorts of things with your friends they're not a good person it's like being gluten intolerant
and eating gluten yeah oh my god don't i know it you're gonna get bloated i know and last night i
was forced to have a burger you picked it first i'd have had the caesar salad i don't know what
to tell you uh okay can we do a little round up okay go on then you lead i'll follow babe okay
olivia one floating alone it's really easy to... That's really good advice, guys.
No, no, she's about to come with something really good.
Come on, babe, push it out.
It's really easy to say, find your tribe, look for your people, be patient.
Feeling alone is really difficult.
So I think don't underestimate how hard that is
and don't let us trivialise that for you.
But at the same time, not everyone has
perfect friendships
and it takes a lot of time
to find your people.
Yeah.
It takes teething,
it takes experiences.
And also,
some people find
their perfect friendships
in their 30s and their 40s.
Yeah, years later.
NCT, I'm praying for.
My mum,
her only friends now
are people that she met
after she had us.
Really?
She doesn't really have,
well, also she moved countries
literally across the world. That's hard. But like, she doesn't really have well also she moved countries literally
across the world but like she doesn't have really anyone in her life like not close who was with her
who knew her when she was 21 for sure yeah it takes time do you know what i mean so i think
it is so soul-crushing and it feels like impossible you're the only person in the world
that feels alone but actually so many people feel alone and yeah you just might you know you might be surprised you might walk in and someone might be like oh
my god i just moved here you never know olivia number two oh she's my favorite you're my you're
a legend you're my star star of the week because you went that bitch that bitch i'm over it but
that bitch we didn't even get her name, God love her. You fucking tell her.
If you feel like you need to have the conversation,
have the conversation again.
If not, just leave it.
Bygones be bygones, I reckon.
No, well, my advice is of the opposite.
Babe, what did your therapist say, real?
He doesn't advise you, babe.
Oh, yeah.
What do you pay him for?
Because the whole point is that you're supposed to question it yourself.
Don't get it.
They're not like a life coach.
He's not there to tell you.
Don't get me started on life coaches. I really actually, I don't, like they're not like a life coach he's not there to tell you get me started on life coaches i really actually i don't like not believe in a lot i really don't
believe in life coach so i'm not seeing a life coach really what i'm trying to say is if it's
going to help you to move on do it if it's not the conversation yeah because for me i that's what i'm
saying i it helps me to do that even if it helps no one else on planet Earth.
At least I did it for myself.
I don't know.
That's a healthy way to communicate,
but we'll see.
Let us know.
No, but babe,
if someone mistreats me,
I need to let them know for myself
that you've really fucked me over
and I do not stand for that behaviour in my life.
As you should.
You tell them.
Right.
Write a letter.
Go forth and multiply.
Exactly.
And Olivia number three
was really left out. by her £800. Exactly. And Olivia, number three,
was really left out. by her £800 flight.
I mean, first of all,
lucky you didn't get to pay
the £800 anyway.
It's really hard to feel left out,
but they're not your people.
And when you find your people,
you will know
and you will never once question
that you belong with them
and that they are your friends for life.
This is the thing, babe.
This is the moral of this podcast,
like, this episode,
that there's no point
having shit friends sorry no they're literally pointless they're actually pointless i'd rather
be alone than have shit friends we laugh now when you get serious you're so fucking like this is the
whole point of this podcast oh my god laura's telling us to get out of here sorry can i just
say thank you so much for those voicemails absolutely love them keep them coming we'll
have so many more
episodes on female friendships
because I know that people
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