Leave A Message with Ally & G - 19 - Whack The Contract Out!
Episode Date: July 10, 2024Haven't you heard? It's a ratboy summer! And one of the gallies certainly has a ratboy on her hands on this weeks episode of Leave A Message. Ally & G are your sea men navigating the rarely charted wa...ters of relationship woes - from married cheaters to difficult in-laws... and what to do about reclaiming money after a break-up (hint: your Dad might need to get involved). Plus we chase all of that down with a special note on how space affects the human body... Want to be a part of the group chat and featured on the pod? Send your voice note to https://wa.me/message/LLWFXNK4YXMHE1 (and please, don’t leave out ANY of the juicy details). NOTICE: Any advice provided in this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute professional advice or guidance; all information, content and materials presented are for entertainment purposes only. Any injury, damage or loss that may result from the consumption of this podcast is at the sole responsibility and risk of the listener. Follow Ally & G Instagram: @allyandg TikTok: @allyandg YouTube: @allyandg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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oh my god we're rolling sorry did you know that i had said on a drive-thru episode
that taylor's uh harry stars was going out with the nobody and someone was like i almost just had
to throw my laptop out the window because ali said that he was going out with a nobody
and he was going out with Taylor Russell.
Who's Taylor Russell?
She's like so...
Why is she famous?
What is she in?
How do I know her?
I think she was in Spider-Man.
No idea.
That's Zendaya.
No, no.
In Spider-Man.
She's on Google.
Oh, and that's not a nobody.
That's not a nobody.
You must not have seen Taylor Russell
and thought she was a nobody, though.
You must have just thought...
I think that this girl's got it wrong,
because I'm sure that Harry Styles
had a blonde girlfriend
who wasn't just a normal London girl,
and they've just broken up.
Maybe Harry Styles was previously with Taylor Russell.
He does move on quickly.
Yeah.
Like, he's literally just racking them up.
She was in Bones and All.
Couldn't say I've seen that.
Waves.
Waves. Escape Room. I don seen that. Waves. Waves.
Escape Room.
No.
I don't know any of them.
Me neither.
Lost in Space.
If we saw her, would we know her?
You would know her because she's sexy.
Yeah, she's more of a fashion icon.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He likes an older woman, doesn't he, normally?
Yeah, who was the one that he...
He was with Caroline Flack for a while?
No, the one after Caroline Flack.
The actress?
Yeah.
What is her name?
Hilarious.
Olivia Wilde.
Yeah, Olivia Wilde.
Sorry, and the whole thing was that she basically groomed him
because she produced that Don't Worry Darling.
Yep.
And it was all a bit Dodge at the time
because of the power dynamic.
Yep.
Oh, I remember now.
Have you seen that film?
I haven't even seen it.
I actually enjoyed it.
I mean, I love Florence Pugh.
I think she's good.
You didn't like it?
I haven't watched it.
Oh, you haven't watched it?
There's a twist.
And do you know what?
I like a film with a twist.
Yeah.
I think twist me up.
Well, that's my problem with Challengers.
I think Challengers wasn't twisty enough.
The end flopped for me.
Me too.
I loved it.
I thought it was pacey.
I thought it was clever. I thought it was a bit weird. She I loved it. I thought it was pacey. I thought it was clever.
I thought it was a bit weird.
She's a film director now.
It was pacey.
It had tempo.
The script was really strong.
It did.
Your boyfriend didn't get it though.
He just kept going,
why is the music so loud?
He was like,
that was a stylistic choice, Rory.
No, no.
We sat down,
the three of us,
to watch Challengers
and he was like,
they started playing tennis
and he was like,
I thought it was going to be loads of snogging.
That's what the trailer brought, loads of snogging.
And then he went off to get some water
and he was like, tell me when they're snogging.
Yeah, tell me when they're snogging.
He just basically wanted to watch porn, but in like a PG way.
I just watched it as well and it was really, it was an interesting film.
It's an interesting film.
The end is really a flop.
I don't think I'd ever watch it again.
No.
Do you know what?
I kind of might watch it again, but like not expecting anything from the end.
And then I think there's loads to see and to unpick.
Yeah, probably, yes.
But like the end, I just will expect nothing.
Yeah, yeah.
I was kind of waiting for something
and that something is probably more nuanced
than we can be asked to think about.
I hate it when that happens, actually.
Yeah, like when what?
Do you want me to take notes
and write a dissertation throughout
and then I'll understand what the point was?
I think that about films in general,
like that film, Inception,
I just think,
listen,
you're trying to mass market this here.
90% of people
aren't going to get this.
What was the other one?
Because Inception
was a little bit more mainstream
because it's like
Blue Pill, Red Pill
or whatever it is.
That's the Matrix.
The one of him in space.
That's Interstellar.
Is it Interstellar?
Inception is in space.
Interstellar is the one
where it's just him
for the whole film.
One man for the whole film.
Matt Damon.
Sure.
All of them are the same.
They're all with Brad Pitt
or Matt Damon.
Why is it always them?
Why is it always them?
In space.
They just love space.
And I just think,
listen,
you go to space,
you either come back
or you don't.
That's pretty much the story.
If someone said,
here's a ticket,
I wouldn't go.
You wouldn't go?
To live on Mars.
Oh, to live on Mars?
No way.
To go to space for...
To do an orbit.
To go to space for 30 days.
No, 100 days.
No, not for 100 days.
Wouldn't do it for 100 days.
Okay, do you want me to tell you something really interesting?
Yeah.
I, right, okay.
This is a little,
something that people won't know about me. I went right, okay, this is a little, something that people
won't know about me.
I went in lockdown
on a Tim Peake,
like,
deep,
deep dive.
We do know that about you
because you told us about
that bloody light exhibition
or whatever you went through.
What did you go to?
No,
that's different.
Walking up Mal on the Moon?
Yeah,
it was called,
that was Tim Peake,
wasn't it?
You were really into him for a bit.
that was Tom Hanks.
Tom Hanks was the narrator.
Tim Peake's the astronaut.
No,
I know,
I know,
but when you went to that thing,
I must undo my belt,
I can't breathe. I hate clothes, I astronaut. No, I know, I know, but when you went to that thing, I must undo my belt, I can't breathe.
I hate clothes,
so I actually ate them.
I'd rather be naked.
I'm going to move to a nudist colony.
Anyway,
what was that thing you went to
about space?
Yeah, yeah, it was about space,
but it was narrated by Tom Hanks.
But it was about Tim Peake.
No, it was about Neil Armstrong.
Oh, good.
Okay, fine.
Whatever, move on.
Anyway, Tim Peake is like
the first British astronaut
in like a really long time
or like the first of something to do,
to go to the International Space Station.
He's written this book called Limitless.
Why did I stop talking to you about this?
Because you wanted to tell us something interesting.
When you go to space, your joints,
you know, you get like five inches taller because you have-
Yes, you grow.
Yeah, and like all these weird-
Because there's no gravity pushing you down.
All these weird things happen to you in space
that like when you come back,
like sometimes people find it like difficult
to like have a wee again and stuff
because like your body like changes a lot,
obviously, when you're under the influence of zero gravity.
Sorry, get the short kings to space.
That's genius.
Put it on your hinge profile.
In space, I'm 6'5".
Genius.
Genius.
How do you wee in space?
You have to actually...
I don't know how girls do it,
but I know that men, they have to put their like really inside like a proper tube. But like do you wee in space you have to actually i don't know how girls do it but i know
that men they have to put their like willy inside like a proper tube but like when you wee obviously
it doesn't go down like the wee just like floats inside wow it's really there are loads and loads
of like documentaries about it's actually really really fascinating you need to pick up that
fascination again and like when they wash their hair have you seen a woman wash her hair in space
never it is no more niche thing to type into google woman washing hair in space
so they put this like
bag on their head
yeah
and they spray the water
but obviously the water
then like is like everywhere
so you have to like
somehow like get the water
like it's like a game
of like bounce
wow
you've like bounced the water
back into your head
to be fair
I'd probably just let it go
I'd probably just grease it up
in space
I'd probably not be asked
not for six months
I might
it might
you know,
that natural oil thing might start happening
where your hair's just super silky.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe that was what I would do.
Anyway, welcome to Leave a Message.
Welcome to Leave a Message.
Got a bit of a theme of cheating, have we?
For the first one.
Or have I just made that up?
It's a mixed bag.
We've got a little mixed bag.
Is there a bit of cheating?
Sprinkle a bit of cheating in. There's some cheating. Oh, thank God. There's always some cheating. Listen, there a little mixed bag. Is there a bit of cheating? Sprinkle a bit of cheating in.
There's some cheating. Oh, thank God. There's always
some cheating. Listen, there's always some cheating.
There's always some cheating. What was I saying?
Oh, I was talking to
Hals yesterday about this. We were talking about
all the things that should be illegal that aren't.
And we did say, getting divorced
before your kids hit 18 should be illegal.
Oh, my parents would be banged up.
They'd be banged up because look at you,
you're dealing with that collateral sale.
No, no, no, I actually don't agree.
Sorry, I'd like to challenge your legal,
your lawmaking skills.
Go on.
I really believe that if you grow up in a household
with unhappy parents...
It's worse than a divorce.
...who hate each other, they're both bad.
Yeah.
But like, it's hard to quantify.
If my parents would hate each other
if they stayed together
I just think
the laws around
having children
are a bit loose
yeah I agree
how do we tighten down
on that
anybody can just
go out
whether you hate each other
love each other
and make a baby
and I just think
no
because these adults
they're then paying for therapy
they're fucked
and they're treating
other people badly
because that's what happens
because we've all got baggage
from horrible parents.
And we've all got daddy issues.
And I just think,
can we not get it in line?
Can you not?
Look at how,
this is why I was thinking about it
because I just watched Lost Boys and the Fairies.
Have you seen it on BBC?
No.
Oh my God, I sobbed.
It's a three-parter about a gay couple
adopting a child.
The amount of hoops they have to jump through.
I could go out on a Friday night and get knocked out.
I don't have to fill out any forms.
I don't have to be interviewed.
I'm just saying.
Maybe there's something to be said about that.
Should we get a voice note?
What do you want to call them?
Annie.
Annie.
Annie.
Orphan Annie.
Really good.
Hi, galleys.
Hope you're both doing well.
This isn't actually one of my stories,
but I wanted to send in a voice note anyway. So my uncle, he was actually married into the family. Thank God
he's not blood related. Anyway, he worked away from home, flying back and forth for work. We
didn't really think anything of it. Anyway, it turns out that he actually had an affair
whilst out there with quite a younger woman. at the time him and my auntie were
married with two children under 10 um and as someone looking into their marriage it always
looked perfect however he was probably cheating for about two years straight and I don't think
he would have ever told my auntie if she didn't find out the way she did. Anyway, she was just going through his
laptop, like nothing untrustworthy, just doing her own thing. As she opened it up, there was
emails on the screen and it was conversations back and forth between him and her. And I think
they were quite sexual. So she spoke spoke to him they ended up getting a divorce
but he actually kept everything he kept the house that they were already living in
everything was fine for him whereas for her she had to kind of start a whole new life
um because he was very manipulative I mean he is very manipulative and a selfish man and yeah I
mean would you say in that situation to make your children happier? I mean, obviously, the children don't actually know what happened. They just think
they got divorced. Obviously, they're still quite young. But what would you do in that situation?
Love you. Bye. Love you, babe. Oh, dear, babe. And I'm sorry for your auntie. I've got many
things to say. Well, welcome to the divorce club. Well, number one, babe, she needs to get Sheila on the phone.
Well, about the rules, I was
going to say about that.
Al's mum is an expert,
not only because she went through a divorce.
She's also a divorce lawyer, and she's worked on
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of divorce cases.
And she would not be having
you sat without the house, would she?
She wouldn't be having her. If he's the cheater,
there's no way. Well, the thing is,
in a court of law,
cheating doesn't really,
isn't really a,
not in my governing body.
No, it's a reason for a divorce.
It's like a reason to leave.
But it's not like a reason
to claim more than, yeah.
Because she has stood by her vows
and in the house of God,
where she was married,
when she said,
in sickness and in health, I will not
cheat on you. Is that in the vows? It should be.
It is. I think we need to write it
in the vows. I think it's in the health.
In goodness and in... I don't think
that not cheating is in vows.
If you get married, we're writing it in. Let's check
that. Oh my God, I don't think it is. I was having this conversation
yesterday with George Pearce and he was saying he doesn't really want to wear
a wedding ring and I said, you best believe when you leave
this house, you're putting a wedding ring on.
I don't really care because I just think like...
Girls notice things like that.
No, but you're going to listen.
If a man's going to cheat,
he's going to cheat whether he's wearing a wedding ring or not.
But the girls might not.
We hope and pray.
Yeah, but it also...
As in they might see the ring and be a bit like,
oh, I probably want to suck your dick.
But that's actually more of an issue.
If the other girl...
If the man is thinking about cheating...
Yeah.
And it's only the thing that's stopping him
is the ring.
Well, the only barrier to sunburn, sun cream.
And you still wear it.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Every thing you can do to stop the burn.
Go on, Rohana.
In vows, they don't promise
to not have sexual partners.
Yeah.
But it is implied by the word faithful.
Faithful. That is is implied by the word faithful. Faithful.
That is heavily implied, actually.
I think I would say that's what that means.
To be faithful.
To be, yeah, okay.
Come on.
Not to be shagging around with someone on email.
How embarrassing to be sending sexual emails.
It's disgusting.
At least like do a WhatsApp message or something.
Like an encrypted app that no one's ever going to see.
If you're going to cheat, sometimes I think people want to be found out.
I think that all the time.
I really do.
They know what they're doing is wrong and they don't know how to say it.
And so they basically like wait until it all blows up in their face.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, obviously in that situation, I would struggle to like look him in the eye and move on.
No, I think her question was, what would struggle to like look him in the eye and move on. I think her question
was what would you do
if you had kids
and would you choose
to tell your children
that their father,
this was me by the way.
Well, she said,
would you stay?
But yeah,
also an interesting question.
Would you tell your kids?
Okay, do you want to know
my real story?
Yeah.
We didn't know
that my dad had cheated.
Yeah.
And I never knew
until I was like,
my dad left when I was like seven or eight. And I never knew until I was like, my dad left
when I was like
seven or eight.
And the only reason
I know
is because
I was at Sabrina's house
when I was like,
I must have been
13 or 14.
And her mum
made a passing comment
that was like,
obviously my mum
had told,
like my mum
was friends with them
and Alison would have assumed
that you knew
that I knew
and she made
I couldn't
I can't even remember
what the comment was now
but it's quite hard
at the time to explain
that to like an
eight year old
no and I think
my mum did the right
thing by trying to
protect us
but like
imagine
so what did she say
about the catty comment
about your dad
it wasn't even catty
it was just like
something about the fact
that I can't
I really couldn't tell
another woman
yeah about the fact that he'd had, I really couldn't tell you. Another woman. Yeah, about the fact that he'd had an affair.
And I honestly remember, you know when something like hits you?
Yeah.
You don't hear anything.
Yeah.
And then, yeah.
But I think we were so young.
I think if you have young kids,
your job is primarily to protect them.
And I don't think that information is helpful.
Also, listen, I really,
I know we always bang on
about like cheating scumbags
and like men can be
cheating scumbags,
but I also...
And women, sadly.
Yeah.
But I also think,
and this is really,
I don't know why I'm saying this,
this is very unlike me
to say this.
I think, sadly,
if you have children
with someone,
you have to separate
your hatred with them
from them being a father or a mother to your children.
Because, like, they can...
It doesn't necessarily...
They could be a bad partner and a good...
Yeah.
Bad partner, good father.
Yeah, bad partner, good parent.
Yeah.
And...
But, yeah, you've got to be quite a big person
to be able to swallow all of that.
Because that's the thing.
Because, like I said, like, about, like, divorce
and, like, waiting until the kids are 18. Obviously, yeah, you're right. You quite a big person to be able to swallow all of that. Because that's the thing. Because like I said, like about like divorce and like waiting until the kids are 18.
Obviously, yeah, you're right.
You could only do that
if the environment in which you lived wasn't hostile.
Because a hostile environment
is just as painful as your parents living separately.
Also, so many of my friend's parents
who got divorced after 18
were like, we all knew it.
They were literally waiting.
Waiting for the kids to leave.
It's obvious.
You hate each other.
Just do it. Painful. Painful. It's mad,'s mad isn't it how one day i might have said this before but one day you
can look at someone in the eye and be like i love you and i will spend the rest of my life with you
and then what you can't even make tea in the in the kitchen and you're gonna fight me over the
house and like it's you're gonna take my house yeah it. It's mental. It is mental. What is that? You just think someone needs to come in in that space
and like, you know Supernanny?
What's her name?
Jo.
You want Jo to come in and sit them both down like kids
and be like,
once upon a time.
That's what my mum does, kind of.
Yeah.
Before they get a divorce, my mum would do that.
She's a legend in the game.
The problem is, like, it's so hard to,
especially if you've got kids,
it's so hard to trace the root of the problem. Like, what, like, it's so hard to, especially if you've got kids, it's so hard to trace
the root of the problem.
Like, what,
you hate each other,
but why?
Because he never does the bit,
that's not why
you hate each other.
You know?
The little things.
The little things.
Oh, death by a thousand cuts.
It's worse than one big blow.
Every time.
That'll get you.
That's a pretty big blow, though,
him cheating on you
and you finding the emails.
I, honestly,
I, it's such an irrational fear,
but I fear that so strongly.
Really?
I just think like loving someone,
being with someone,
being completely blindsided and seeing something like that,
yeah, would be a fear of mine.
Babe, why do you think I've started
the trust no one campaign?
That is my whole reason.
Imagine if you went onto Rory's laptop
just to like
look at flights
for your holiday
and you see
sexy
big
cheb
101
at hotmail.com
pop up.
And he's been
sexting her.
It's actually
bringing tears to my eyes.
The shock.
Really?
Would you not
be horror shocked? I would be. I shock. Really? The horror. Would you not be horror shocked?
I would be.
I would...
There might be death.
Yeah.
You're real.
I would burn him to the ground.
I would burn everything that he loves to the ground.
And that is me to my core.
I just think...
The problem is...
I'd help you, babe.
You can't prevent people from doing it.
That's actually half the problem.
All you can do is hope.
Yeah.
And also maintain some trusting no one.
Trust is blind.
Right.
Well, blind-ish.
All you can do is just hope.
God fucking hope and pray.
But, you know, if it happens, it's done.
You can't, like, there's no, like, fixing cheating.
You either stay and forgive them or you leave.
Or you move on.
And burn them down to the ground. Yeah, in the process. There's no like fixing cheating. You either stay and forgive them or you leave. Or you move on. And burn them down to the ground.
Yeah, in the process.
There's no grey.
We actually don't,
obviously,
recommend violence.
But at the same time,
I think burning things is therapeutic.
And back in the day,
in the Viking days,
they would have really encouraged it.
So I think maybe it's fine.
Or get a tennis racket.
We were saying this.
Yeah, because of Challengers.
We were like,
because Al normally takes it on the recycling,
which is just not as good. No, it's guitar or a racket yes much better let it all out babe
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Hi, absolutely love the pod.
Listen to it every Sunday at work.
It is the only thing that keeps
me going so thank you both for that basically i'm 19 and my partner's 22 and we've been together
for just over two years and for the longest time we've both gotten on really well with both of our
families however in september just gone we decided to take his mother on holiday to italy and it's
important to mention that her partner left just over two years ago.
And ever since then, her son has been helping her out financially.
So this holiday was fully paid for by my partner and myself.
However, we started to notice immediately when sitting on the Ryanair flight
that she was beginning to complain.
This carried on throughout the entire holiday.
The Airbnb wasn't nice enough. The bar wasn't nice enough. The Airbnb wasn't nice enough.
The bar wasn't nice enough.
The food wasn't nice enough.
Nothing seemed to be good enough.
Obviously, all of the sly comments started to annoy my partner,
but we carried on until the last day,
which resulted in them two having a massive argument outside of McDonald's.
We all agreed that we should just carry on with the day
as we had rented a mini boat to go
on the lake and it was the final day of our holiday and we just wanted to enjoy it. As the
instructor is taking us over to our boat she refuses to come. Then we get back to the UK.
She doesn't speak to us until a month after in which she wants to speak to her son alone which
is fairly reasonable. Where I then discover she has a big long list of everything
that I did wrong on the holiday and this was her excuse for the behavior the first one was that
when me and her went to a toilet in a restaurant I didn't wait for her to come out the toilet for
us then to both go back to the table together second one is that when we go out to eat or whatever, that because her son sits next to me and not next to her. Anyway, so you get the vibe. However,
many months later, things are starting to get back to normal. However, she has never apologized to me
about any of this or even mentioned it to me at all. I'd also like to say that my partner was on
my side in all of this, but the truth is I still don't trust that she likes me or wants me around am i being insecure and cautious and should i just get over
it or do you think that my trust issues are justified thank you jesus christ sorry mums and
sons do you want to shag him sheila bloody hell so i didn't mean to use your mom's name that i've
also written um mums and sons why Why, you suck him off then.
You clean up our Grimsdale.
It's boring.
What is it with mums and their sons?
Obsession.
Even Becky, who did our nails,
she was like, my mum is just obsessed with my brother.
I was like, she and I talk about this all the time.
Why?
Why don't you go out with your son then?
Is it because you didn't pick the right man
to be your partner?
And so then you've like tried to make your son
the man you would have wanted to be with.
So now you like low-key fancy him in a weird way.
I don't know what that dynamic is.
No, I think it's that
mums can often see a lot of themselves in their daughters.
Like, you know, when like your own daughter
can like snap at you and you think,
God, it's like looking in a mirror.
Yeah, the ugly parts.
Yeah.
But maybe with sons, they don't get it.
So they're trying to like,
you know, like cherry,
I don't know.
It's so weird.
They love them.
I've written here,
ungrateful cow.
Ungrateful.
Because she is an ungrateful cow.
Cheeky bitch.
Sorry.
Maybe she felt a bit proud.
Maybe she was embarrassed
that they paid for the whole thing.
But then don't say yes
to coming on holiday.
Say thank you for the calamari and move on.
What the fuck?
She wants to sit next to her son.
Oh, this is the thing.
Hand on his lap.
What's wrong with you, Barbara?
You've just spent a whole week together in Italy, babe.
It's disgusting.
Do you want to sleep in the bed with us too?
Do you want to have a threesome?
Do you know what I mean?
It's too much.
It's actually too much.
And I'm sorry, I hate to imply incest
because I know it's not that.
It's an admiration thing.
They put their sons on pedestals
but why?
because they've like
created them
and they're like
love them
they're good looking
and tall
and so boring
I think the thing
about sons actually
and I can't say this
as a mother of a son
but I'm going to say it anyway
I think with daughters
you feel like
oh they'll always be
in my life
but with sons
when they get older
you feel like
they might feel like
oh I'm losing them
and so I'm like they're like desperately trying always be in my life. But with sons, when they get older, you feel like, they might feel like, oh, I'm losing them.
And so I'm like, they're like desperately trying to claw on to Penny last. Also, I think you do understand the power a woman has in a man's life.
100%.
Like, if your daughter-in-law doesn't like you,
you best believe you won't be holding the grandkids
and you won't be around for Christmas.
You know what I mean?
But then I also think, well, why has she burnt the bridge with you?
Listen, babe.
Bizarre behaviour, babe. I'm going to say now, you will never, ever, ever win with this woman. Ever. but then I also think well why has she burnt the bridge with you listen babe bizarre behaviour babe
I'm gonna say now
you will never
you will never
ever ever win
with this woman
ever
so you can either
very interesting conversation
with our manager
I won't name which one
about this
about
ooh pick from three
in-laws
and only two of them
are getting married
ooh
50-50
one of them lives
with their in-laws
and loves them
so
oh god you're so right horrible um she said basically she has a difficult relationship
with her in-laws and she was like i know that i will never win and that they will never change
so the only option is for you or for her to like change the way that she thinks feels and responds to them or you just
will never have a relationship and like and if your partner has a good relationship with their
parents then it's probably like you know not your duty but it's part of your partnership to them
to maybe not make their relationships with their parents more difficult find elsewhere to vent
about it because like it's not going to be helpful for you to talk
to him about how much of a cow his mum is yeah it's awkward that isn't it so like even if he's
on your side he probably does already know she's being a cow so it's like you're putting him in an
even more impossible position and also it's one of those isn't it it's like if your mum's a cow
you're a bit like i can say that but yeah no one else can yes do you know what i mean yes and he
can stand up for you as much as he wants,
but he's also at the mercy of that weird mum-son dynamic.
And he's also being like mollycoddled by his mum.
And his mum wants to sit next to him,
which is odd, I know.
I just would say, listen up, Karen.
You've got some serious fucking problems.
I've got a number for a therapist.
Would you like me to pass it on to you?
Yeah.
You must go and see someone.
Why must you sit next to him at every dinner?
It's bizarre. Do you know what I had with my ex?
He wasn't very good with his parents.
He was really distant. And then you had to do the work.
I just brought him closer so then I always
won. It was amazing. You need someone
that doesn't have a great relationship with their parents.
Then you build them together and then you're golden
bollocks. Good. Can I say
really quickly about the toilet thing?
Yeah.
Something I struggle with often.
What?
Do you wait and hang around for the person in the toilet or do you leave?
Okay.
Because that's actually, I often stand there on the sink and I'm like,
I've already blow dried my hands, they're still there, what are they doing in there?
Oh my gosh, shall I wait?
Is it awkward that I'm waiting?
It depends the level of friend.
Yeah, because would you shout,
Get back to the table!
If it was you, I would say, yeah, I'd say, babe, I'm going to the table. Babe, it's taking ages, get back to the table? If it was you, I would say,
yeah,
I'd say,
babe,
I'm going to the table.
Babe,
you're taking ages,
I'm going back.
Your poo's taking far too long.
I can smell it.
But,
if it was like,
an acquaintance,
you would wait.
I would probably wait.
See,
I think I'm,
if it was an acquaintance,
they might leave,
because I might think,
I'll leave you in peace.
Leave you in peace.
Oh,
then it's,
especially if it's an acquaintance,
where like,
you know,
sometimes you go places,
and the walk from the bathroom to the table just feels like three hours long. So long. You just think, oh it's, especially if it's an acquaintance, where like, you know, sometimes you go places and the walk from the bathroom to the table
just feels like three hours long.
So long.
You just think, oh my God, isn't the food so nice?
Also, what if you're waiting outside the door
and they're waiting inside?
Oh, bad!
Oh, then you've got it all wrong.
Oh, it's all horrible.
You must agree as you approach the toilet.
No, no, if it's an acquaintance,
you wouldn't agree though.
That's half the problem.
You wouldn't say, after my piss,
I'll wait outside for you.
No, I know what I'd say. When I go in to the bathroom, okay, you've got to say, you wouldn't agree, though. You wouldn't say, after my piss, I'll wait outside for you.
No, I know what I'd say.
When I go in to the bathroom,
okay, you've got to say, see you back at the table.
See you back at the table.
Bland.
If you happen to...
Sounds a bit like you're off to do a poo, but who cares?
Don't wait for me.
See you back at the table.
I'll be a while.
I'll be a while.
I wouldn't wait if I were you.
I wouldn't hang around.
I'd go and run over if I were you.
I'll get a nose plug if I were you I'll get a nose plug
if I were you
I hate going to the toilet
with someone I don't know
especially when it's the ones
and this happens to me a lot
when I have
especially when you go
to a posh dinner
and you have to hold in your fart
and then you go to the loo
and it's not even like
sorry what not posh dinner
are you jumping at
no thank you
no no
when you go to a posh dinner
yes
at any dinner
can you not fart at the table
I would sit at the dinner table
with you and Trump
babe horrific last weekend in drive through no I was in the car Yes. At any dinner, can you not farce at the table? I would sit at the dinner table with you and Trump.
Babe!
Horrific. Last weekend,
in drive-thru.
No, I was in the car.
I'm not in a restaurant.
What's the difference?
A lot.
People, mainly.
It's just me and you, babe.
Poor me.
Shall we have number three?
Hello, galleys.
My story for you
is about
the lovely guy that I will be calling Rat Boy.
This is my ex-boyfriend of three years.
We broke up a year ago.
Prior to our breakup, we had festival tickets booked for Reading Festival.
And we had to do the awkward thing of who gets tickets, blah, blah, blah.
They were in his name.
I had paid him the £300 for who gets tickets blah blah blah they were in his name i had paid
him the 300 pounds for these tickets and i wanted my money because i didn't want to go and so he was
humming high he was like oh i don't know if i'm going or not yeah i need to find someone i was
like okay well can you advertise my ticket for sale because i want my money and it got to the
point where he ignored me enough that the like the time where you
could sell it on Ticketmaster had gone and then I find out from my friend that he's taking his friend
which was my friend's boyfriend at the time to said festival I didn't know this and I was like
that's fine but I want my money where where's my money for my ticket? Because while you guys are gallivanting around at Reading
doing God knows what,
whatever class A drugs that you feel like,
I'm stuck in a supermarket
getting shouted at by old ladies.
So I was like, can I have my money?
And I just get a message of,
I'm broke right now.
You'll get the money when I have it.
Bit rude seeing as it's my ticket.
I want the money. Three months after the the festival i still don't have my money i was like i've tried the nice guy
tried the bad guy we're gonna bring in the dad so my dad went to his place of work
um which is a like a street food vendor thing he was working there was about 20 customers outside and he said in front of all
these customers when you're gonna pay my daughter 300 pounds you owe her oh my god obviously he was
very embarrassed don't talk about like why are you doing it here and he was said that apparently
i owed him 200 pounds because he did two shifts a year prior when we were together at my old job and he never got the
wages from it. Girls, I can't remember ever owning a business. If not, I wouldn't be working
in a supermarket right now. I would be loaded and I'd be having a great time. My question for you,
girls, is how do I get my money back? And if Ratboy is listening, I would like my £300
right now. Much love and I love listening, I would like my £300 right now.
Much love.
And I love listening to you guys.
You're amazing.
Bitch better have my money.
Sorry.
No, you do not give up.
Oh, I don't agree.
You think you give up?
I don't think it's giving up.
I just think you could bang your head against the wall
for three years with this boy,
with Ratboy,
trying to get you £300.
And I think it's her money.
Sometimes in life, babe,
sometimes in life when you go,
like, you know, you go through a divorce,
you lose a house.
£7 an hour you've saved to get three,
300 quid is a lot of money.
No, no, no, I know.
I'm not saying, I'm not for a second saying
it's not a lot of money,
but I think given the circumstances
of him being an actual piece
of shit, you're not going to get it.
Unless you literally go to HSBC
or Barclays or wherever he keeps his money
and report him as a fraudster.
That is my only, I've written him,
report him to the bank.
Well, now you've mentioned it, might I say
I went to book an Airbnb yesterday
whose card details were saved.
Collins, I was quite tempted to put my Airbnb on there.
So maybe in your browser history,
he's once upon a time bought something for you,
booked a trip.
You should take the money, babe.
It's yours.
You've got his card dates.
I don't know, spend it in ASOS.
Do you know what I mean?
If you've got it saved on your...
Or like Amazon, sometimes they buy things on.
Right, you've got to think outside the box.
You could send him a Monzo link. Then he just has to to think outside the box. You could send him a Monzo link.
Then he just has to tap on it and pay.
You could send him a PayPal request.
Yes.
You've got to start thinking outside the box.
I mean, the dad was pretty outside the box.
Or you could say...
Bloody hell.
Imagine.
Imagine.
People would have thought he would have been praying for a prostitute.
I'm sorry to say you've been knowing...
The thing is...
Wait, what?
Because he was like, you haven't paid my daughter.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For her good services.
As the lady of the night.
As the lady of the night.
All the day,
whenever you want her.
Yeah, whenever you want her.
She comes at your beck and call.
I think it's really awkward,
isn't it?
And this is like a broader thing.
Like money,
I get really cross
when people
know they owe you money
and they don't pay it and they wait for you to need to ask them
because it's such a, especially as English people,
we're really bad.
Like it's really uncomfortable to ask for money.
Even like after a dinner, like you could literally,
the amount of times I could have been like,
oh, I just won't ask.
But then think about how much money that is once it all adds up. Yeah, I agree.
I do agree. With certain
people it comes out in the wash and it's fine.
Yes, yeah. Let the coffees go.
100%. Whatever. Because they're your people
and you're together all the time and you're back and forward all the time.
But for the acquaintances that you don't want to wait in the bathroom for.
Do you know what I mean? Or like,
every time you go for dinner with them, there's that
one friend that you're like, you haven't
sent me that 40 quid again.
And it's like, that is a lot of money now.
And I'm actually, I know it's petty,
but I'm going to ask you for it out of principle now.
But the problem is if you've asked and your dad's asked
and he's still saying no, I just think...
For peace of mind to just...
Let bygones be bygones.
And we say this all the time.
It's harder when you're a bit younger
because like, you know, when you are working the job
that is like
and you save
and like
it's like that thing that you bought
and that you waited for
and you save for
and then like
it's so
it's unfair
also it does become like a principle thing
it's like
it is my money
and also
surely the guy you're taking
paid for the ticket
I would just bypass him
if it's your friend's boyfriend
I'd just be like
did you pay him the money for the ticket
because you need to
ask for it back
and you need to
pay it directly to me
because he is
making money
off your breakup
and that is just
a bit petty
I mean listen
breakups are messy
and Al's right
I kept a lot of stuff
that weren't really mine
do you know what I mean
I don't know
I just think
especially
that's a really clear
division of a thing
it's different isn't it when someone's got you a present and division of a thing. It's different, isn't it?
When someone's got you a present
and you're a bit like,
no, you can't have your AirPods back.
Obviously, you bought them for me.
I always think that about these girls
and their big fat engagement rings.
Do you think the men are asking back?
Maybe they're Birkins.
What are they doing about that?
Oh, no, the Birkins,
definitely he hasn't got a claim on them.
No way.
No way.
Once you've handed it over,
it's theirs.
It's mine.
Yeah.
And I'll be making,
I'll be cashing in 100 grand
off that Birkin.
I guess they do an Emma Rutter Jaskowski or whatever and just turn it into a divorce ring. No, yeah and I'll be making up a cash in a hundred grand off that book I guess they do an
Emma Ratajkowski or whatever
and just turn it into a divorce ring
no no I think an engagement ring
is just
no but I bet you
some men ask for it back
I bet you
oh I bet
give it to the next
yeah
imagine
imagine
I'm sorry you didn't get
to go to Reading
I've got this problem
don't worry about it
there's a concert
I really want to go to
that my ex bought me
tickets for
it's in October
I don't know whether
we could go together
have you got the have you got the me and you he's got them or you and him in October. I don't know whether we could go together. Have you got the
me and you? Or you and him? Me and him.
I wouldn't even need to look at him. I just want to go.
I think that is, sorry. What if it's
standing? Then we wouldn't even see each
other. I'd go alone. You'd be on your own,
yeah. He doesn't want to go. Has he still got the
tickets? Surely. He might have sold
them. He's probably sold them. Yeah. Babe, also
we might be able to get some free ones. I know.
I'm going to try so hard. Honestly, we want to get Chris Stapleton
tickets. I want to go and see Chris Stapleton
and it was the best present ever and then I
really considered it when we were breaking up.
I was like, should I wait? Can I do another
year? Or should I put it in the breakup clause?
You have to give me the tickets. I'm
going to break your heart but you have to give me.
Babe, maybe you're right. Maybe what we're lacking
in this world is paperwork. A contract.
Yes. We have a contract. We have a contract? We have this world is paperwork. A contract. My mum... Yes. God.
We have a contract.
We have a contract?
We have a very serious contract.
Okay, actually, babe.
Okay, listen.
I don't think that cheating should be illegal because, listen, people are going to be people
and people are going to cheat.
What I do think should be illegal
is entering into a parenting situation with someone,
a sexual relationship with anyone.
A working relationship.
That you haven't signed a contract with.
I agree.
My mum always,
my mum bangs on about prenups.
Honestly, that's why.
We want prenup.
What's the facts around prenup?
Like, are they just like invalid?
I've heard that a lot of times.
They're not,
they're not like legally binding.
Right.
So it's not like a contract
where like if we didn't get paid by a company,
we could sue them.
It's not quite the same level of law.
Right.
But it is still like,
if you've both signed on the dotted line
and you've agreed to these terms,
it would be quite hard.
It would stand up in your divorce procedures.
100%.
It would be quite hard for you to then turn around and say,
well, I never agreed to that because you did.
You signed it.
What date do you work out on?
Do you reckon date five, the contract?
Or do you wait a bit?
Do you have to wait?
It's a very interesting conversation
because lots of people,
I mean, they're really quite common now, but lots of people take real issue with it prenups yeah because it's like i can't believe that you would ever think that we
would i know and they get insulted but i actually think that you should have it for most if you're
in a long-term relationship and you're gonna have a baby with someone do you want to know something
yeah this is my mom's, another one of her big things
about dying on the hill of.
If you're in a cohabiting relationship
and you've got children together
and you're not married,
you have zero legal rights.
If your husband leaves
and takes the kids
with all the money
and you've got nothing,
you can't claim a penny.
Especially girls,
if you haven't been working
because you're with the babies.
Nothing.
You honestly are owed
not a penny.
And you can't let yourself get in that with the babies. Nothing. You honestly are owed not a penny. And you can't let yourself
get in that situation, girls.
Yeah.
Never.
Yeah.
Never.
Even if you're not married,
sign a contract.
Sign a contract.
Sign a shareholders agreement.
Put it in chat GPT.
We could put you in our template.
Yeah, we'll put our template
on Instagram, not to worry.
Just sign away
because that is just not right.
Yeah.
All these fuckers out there
getting away with all of this stuff.
This is why I think
I know what you're saying
and I actually do appreciate
what you're saying
because I also do think like
karma comes back around
and that money will come to you
in other ways.
Money comes, money goes.
But also it is the principle of it.
It's like it is your money
and you're not going to Reading
and you do deserve that money back
and also you tried to get them
on Ticketmaster.
Could have both had your money back
if he wasn't so lazy.
Listen,
he was heartbroken, babe.
I think you just need
to hate him for a while.
Do some voodoo shit
on his doll or something.
You know,
really hate him
and, you know,
hope that the money spider,
like, you know,
I think if your dad
going to his work
didn't work,
you're probably like pretty.
I honestly would though.
I mean,
that is stealing.
I can't believe
I've just recommended that.
But I would just look
to see if his details are saved on your laptop. Couldn't believe it. I don't think that's stealing. I do that with her all can't believe I've just recommended that but I would just look to see if his details
are saved
on your laptop
couldn't believe it
I don't think that's stealing
I do that with her all the time
got Colin's Amex
I just think
I sometimes put my Zara stuff
on our shared Amex
that's different
because you cohabit with him
and you do suck his dick
from time to time
oh once a year
I do none of that
none of that
if you do that
you're fine
because payment is payment
do you know what I mean
yeah
we did this the other day
sorry we went for lunch.
We didn't even go for lunch.
We've just got an obsession
with creating our own
Joe and the Juice panini.
And so we were buying
all the ingredients
and Al's just like,
Al has about 55 cards
on her phone.
She's just flicking through them.
She's like,
I'll rock and get this one.
We're like, ah, yeah.
He didn't even ask.
He didn't even ask.
He wouldn't even know.
Really good. Yeah, he just directed a bit. Ding, ah, yeah. He didn't even ask. He didn't even ask. He wouldn't even know. Really good.
Yeah, he just direct debit.
Ding.
Ding, ding.
Should we do a roundup?
Yeah, debrief.
Debrief.
Annie number one.
Thanks, sorry, for watching Drive Thru.
Forget that people do that.
So fun.
Oh my God, so fun.
That's crazy.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
So good.
You find your hubby's cheating via email.
No, it's not her story.
No, no, no, I know, but I'm being the auntie.
Sorry, I was in first person of the auntie.
Great.
I was being method.
Cheating, but you've got kids.
Would you say, sorry, I didn't ask you,
would you stay in her situation?
You don't think you would?
Really?
I actually reckon I'd give it a go.
I find forgiveness so difficult.
You're talking to the right person, babe.
I just think like that for me,
it's just a bit like,
oh, gross.
Like, I don't do that to you.
So come up to the standard or don't.
The one with the bitchy stepmother,
mother-in-law.
Oh, yeah.
Babe, just listen.
Honestly, if I were you,
as a gobby shite 19-year-old,
I would have given her a piece of my mind,
if I'm honest with you.
I would have just said,
if she was like,
oh, the Airbnb's not very nice,
I'd be like, well, what's wrong with it?
What's the problem with it?
Or you'd just be like,
don't worry, Carol, next time you can book it.
And pay for it.
That'd be really nice, Carol.
So, pass.
Shut up, you silly bitch.
Number three. Love that you called him Rat Boy. Yeah. Because I was Shut up, you silly bitch. Number three.
Love that you called him Rat Boy.
Yeah, because I was thinking... About Roden Boys.
Yes, very on brand.
Well done.
But they're having a bit of a comeback,
so it's not actually an insult anymore, Rat.
Just want to say.
That boy is kind of a compliment.
My honest opinion on the money is
you kind of got to let it go, babe.
Money comes, money goes.
And also, the more energy and emotional time
that you give to chasing that money he's still in your life and ideally you want to expel him from your life and if that
means sacrificing your hard-earned 300 pounds maybe that's what you got to do sometimes we
have to do things we don't want to do and you getting your money back not getting your money
back might be one of those things maybe you could set a yearly alarm to go off on the weekend of Reading every year
and that weekend you can just try.
You get one text a year.
Okay, my other thing...
To send the Monzo link.
The last thing is ask him to set up
a direct debit for £2 a month.
Yeah, and say it's just a coffee, babe.
Not like 150 months.
Yeah.
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