Leave A Message with Ally & G - 22 - A Sixth Sense for Detecting Lies

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

If this weeks episode of Leave A Message was written by a poet, it would be Shakespeare because we're asking all of the big ones: ta-too or not-ta-too... that is the question. It's an international af...fair as G comes back from Bali and we talk about navigating relationships whilst travelling the world, when is the right time to arrive at the airport and, of course, all of the mishaps along the way. Plus we ask: to accept or not accept (an Instagram request from an ex's new partner)? Want to be a part of the group chat and featured on the pod? Send your voice note to https://wa.me/message/LLWFXNK4YXMHE1 (and please, don’t leave out ANY of the juicy details). NOTICE: Any advice provided in this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute professional advice or guidance; all information, content and materials presented are for entertainment purposes only. Any injury, damage or loss that may result from the consumption of this podcast is at the sole responsibility and risk of the listener. Follow Ally & G Instagram: @allyandg TikTok: @allyandg YouTube: @allyandg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 even better thank god it's not a dress it's gonna be a waistcoat and a trousers that's exactly what it is yeah how did you know because i just know oh i can't find it now. What colour is it? Gold. Okay. It's gold and it's from, drumroll please, Mint Velvet. What a place. Yeah. It's a bit 45.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Yes, it's a little bit 45, but that's actually the vibe I'm going for. Basically, guys, I'm celebranting one of my best friend's weddings on Saturday. That is a mad responsibility. I don't think I've deeped it until now. Yeah, I think it's really brave
Starting point is 00:00:48 that they've asked me. Because, you know, this is what I think. I think it's a beautiful thing because you know them so intimately, but also that could also be a hindrance to know them so intimately. Yeah, like...
Starting point is 00:01:00 That's what I mean. Okay, so I've just also got back from Bali. If I haven't mentioned it already, I will. You haven't seen her whole Instagram for the last three weeks. I'm so annoying. Anyway, I was on the flight home, and I thought, you know, you've got to keep yourself awake.
Starting point is 00:01:15 12 hours is a long time. So I thought I'd just read through it again. And I thought, God, I've really not got a sense checker. Because I don't want to read it to them, because Thursday we're going to run through it. And you have to wear the mint velvet. Oh, shall I? Well, it's in the Cotswolds,
Starting point is 00:01:28 but I'll give you the vibe. I'll put a suit on. So that you... But yeah, it's a big responsibility. I mean, I think it's really nice, you know, when you go to weddings and it feels a bit bizarre. Because there's a stranger making gags about, like, the couple or, like, trying to say nice things.
Starting point is 00:01:44 It shouldn't be a stranger. But, like, if you were doing it for me and raw i just laughed hi this is why well this is why i had to get a suit because george who is faye's fiance was like i can't have you looking like we've just pulled in a bridesmaid because the celebrant didn't turn up like it'll just look like you're a mate that's rolled in i I do think though, we do this for a living, like technically it's hosting. It's like... I'm not going to ask you to officiate. I'm going to ask you to do a speech. The wedding, like what do you call it? Like the rehearsal dinner. Oh, the night before. Will I not be your MC? You know, the person that like goes, okay, it seems time to get to the dance floor. It's going to be everything that day.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Many, many hats. My arse wiper. Sure. The emcee, the speech giver. I actually don't doubt it for a second, and I can't wait. I can't wait. Hi.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Welcome back to Leave a Message, everyone. Thank you so much for joining us again. It means that we are still not cancelled. Hallelujah. Because that's been touch and go. We've been speaking to our lawyer about defamation. And that's why we keep saying allegedly. You haven't had a break from us because this podcast goes out every single week, but we've had a break from ourselves.
Starting point is 00:02:56 From each other. Yes, we've had two weeks off. And it actually feels pretty good to be back in the driving seat. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, I was actually feeling a little bit like, don't get me wrong, I'm really into island life. But after a while, you're like, okay, okay well shall i do something more productive with my day than go to the gym and drink a pina colada get very untethered in that kind of lifestyle and that's so beautiful for like two three weeks yeah after that you just feel like what is the direction in my life this is the thing and i was thinking that i could be persuaded to be directionless
Starting point is 00:03:24 oh yeah 100 especially out there because they're all digital nomads so you think This is the thing, and I was thinking that I could be persuaded to be directionless. Oh, 100%. Especially out there, because they're all digital nomads. So you think you're all working somehow, doing something, earning money, doing something. And also, you don't need to earn much. Oh, gee. Like, honestly, I went to Bali maybe like seven years ago, and I thought, oh, it'll be more expensive now. No, no. We would play this game.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Such a fun game after dinner. You'd go, how much would that be in London? And you'd say, I don't know, 50 quid. £3.50. You'd be like,
Starting point is 00:03:52 sorry, three course meal. Not even just Bali, babe. The whole of Asia. I know. Wild. It's wild. You can live like a king. We,
Starting point is 00:03:59 when we live in Malaysia, where my grandparents live, there's this like little noodle stall and it's like literally in the car park and the one pot of noodles is one ringgit, which is like two pence. Ridiculous. Best bowl of noodles you will ever eat.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. No markup. Do you know what I mean? Come on. Just saying, how are they living like that? And we're living like this where, you know, a bottle of water costs £3.90.
Starting point is 00:04:25 It's not right. Something's gone wrong in the matrix there. Why are we here? I was just on the tube then, so I was etching my tits off, like, why am I here? Why am I here? Why am I here?
Starting point is 00:04:36 No, then you must remember, babe, this is, you know, this is a world of opportunity here. Come on. Unless you want to be a surfing instructor or a digital nomad, there really isn't much to do in Bali. Much to do about nothing. Anyway, this is why we're here, to answer your
Starting point is 00:04:51 voice notes. I'm excited about this because I love getting my teeth stuck into boys, as you well know. Hashtag not all men. Hashtag not all boys. Hashtag allegedly I like sticking my teeth in, allegedly. No harm was caused to any of the boys that I stuck my teeth into hashtag allegedly should we go voice note number one what are they going to be called oh
Starting point is 00:05:09 give us an Indonesian name oh like um Judy sorry before we do the voice note no babe this is a podcast
Starting point is 00:05:19 okay sorry we'll do that next if you're watching on YouTube would like to hear okay I'll tell you, Rahana. Sorry. All I'm seeing is your face
Starting point is 00:05:30 and our management's face on our week. I was doing the calls whilst I was in Bali, our weekly calls where we just do updates about work. And I literally, I thought I was in my cosy,
Starting point is 00:05:40 like so tan, just feeling so proud of myself. I was like, guys, look at my new tattoo. Their faces, like Fran looked like she was going to be sick I no
Starting point is 00:05:47 I actually Ali was speechless she didn't even send me a picture because she knew I knew absolutely rinse her like yeah it was worse than the Audi
Starting point is 00:05:56 I thought the reaction was going to be the same it's worse because it's front and fucking centre well anyway I met a man out there in Bali he was called Judy
Starting point is 00:06:03 and a man? yeah Judy Judy the man? Yeah, Judy. Judy the man. He was a waiter at the beach club when we would watch Sunset every night at the same place and this guy was called Judy. Anyway, I've been talking to Ali for ages
Starting point is 00:06:16 about getting a dragon somewhere on my body but I didn't want to get like a Chinese dragon because hashtag, I'm not Chinese. Hashtag, white. And I didn't want to, you know, culturally appropriate anybody. So I thought I'll go a bit more mystical, a bit more Game of Thrones. House of the Drags. Harry Potter.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yes. So this is Judy, the dragon. Guys, you will die. If you're listening to us, go to YouTube and watch it. For Hanna's sake. I was not expecting that. Sure. Well, be honest.
Starting point is 00:06:48 It looks well done. It's on her body now. It looks well done. Do you know what? It does. Shout out, Kintatu, if you're ever in Bali or Hong Kong. Yeah, shout out, Judy.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I like the sentiment behind it. The sentiment is being in your power and that's, you know, it's been worked. It's a little bit, I should have called it Sheila. It's a little bit Sheila Mack. But I just think why why is it so big do you know what i mean you
Starting point is 00:07:08 say that about all of my tattoos you always say that i don't think that was unless i don't think it was necessary to get a five inch rahana do you know what she just came to my new house my my new home she walked into my new home and she goes to holly did you get the butterfly too because i also got a little butterfly and she looks at ho she goes, is it smaller than G's? Holly goes, yeah. She goes, yeah, I prefer it. It's the same tattoo. It's the same. Oh, this is nicer. Sure.
Starting point is 00:07:29 So much nicer. Exactly. The same. Okay, Judy won. Judy won. Hi, girls. Absolutely love the podcast and your TikToks. I've got a little boy dilemma here for you. So I've just come back from four months traveling.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I've been back for about two months now. And since've come home I've been dating this guy and I had no intention of getting into anything serious with anybody to be honest I love single life but we really clicked we've been on the best dates like he's treated me so well however it's just come at a really shit time we are exclusive at the moment um but he's going traveling in august for two months and i'm going traveling in october solo across asia and he's going across europe obviously this puts a bit of a spanner in the works because he has proposed the idea of like doing long distance but i don't think in the early stages of relationship that's a really good idea especially because we're still getting to know each other and neither of us like texting or really being on our phones. I don't really know how to bring up
Starting point is 00:08:29 the situation now though, because I feel like I've got myself a bit stuck. I really want to carry on pursuing this. But if we're going to be away from each other for five months or so, it seems silly. Perhaps I should say when we're home, like if we're both single and we both still want to see something because it's not a matter of not liking each other it's just a matter of really shit timing um what do you think I should do because I really really like him and it's just awful timing but to do long distance over five months traveling and at the start of a relationship it would be different if we've been together for years you know know. Please help me out. I don't know what to say to him. Yeah. Thank you so much. Oh, Judy Wan. My gorgeous girl. Oh, babe, what a conundrum. No, I don't think it's a conundrum at all, actually. Oh, here she is.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Come on. She's back. I know your answer. You're actually such a romantic, aren't you? But you've got to dig deep. Right down there, all you see is romance. If you like him enough, I think it is so rare these days in life. I don't know how old she is. It's so rare to find someone that you think, I actually really, really like this person. And we click. How often do you have that?
Starting point is 00:09:41 How many dates do people go on and they think, I just can't find that person? It's so rare. And if you have that how many dates do people go on and they think i just can't find it's so rare and if you have it don't throw it away because of logistics that is all it is and i would just say look i did this was raw and i not quite to this like not on the same vibe but we i was at bristol he was at newcastle and we had just both started second year of uni and like the timing couldn't have been worse like you're enjoying being single you're at different ends of the UK like it's not ideal you know we wanted to enjoy our to enjoy our own university experiences but like I met him and I thought I don't actually want to be with anyone else
Starting point is 00:10:21 and we just made it work it was never even a question of what if the distance is a problem you just make it work and I think as long as you have an end date which you you have a much shorter end date than yeah I just think in the grand scheme of life what is five months also I actually don't think the not having like a long length of time together matters because actually I think I think almost it makes it harder I think if you say live together for years and years and you're really used to having that person in your day-to-day I actually think it then makes it harder to go long distance I'll never forget Al and I had only met like a handful of times and do you remember we were at pride and we went to nando's afterwards and i had only been with my ex for maybe a year not even um and we were long distance and we always had been that was always the situation and that wasn't really ever going to
Starting point is 00:11:17 change and i remember sitting there with alan being like god it's just like really hardcore and i don't know how you did it. And I just remember you saying, you just can't fight it because if you fight it and you fight the things, like I used to say to her, I hate the phone. I hate having to be on the phone. I hate having to text. And she was like, that's the thing that connects you.
Starting point is 00:11:37 So don't fight against the phone. Don't fight against the FaceTimes. Don't fight against the texting because that's your like landline to them. And if you want to be with them and you love them, then that's a beautiful thing, the phone. You pick up the phone or like, you know, if you're traveling, you, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:11:51 you write letters, like whatever works for you. And Al's right, five months isn't a long time. And you've still got your autonomy. You're still traveling. You're not tied to them. As long as you both understand. I actually think that's the best of both worlds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:08 You can like live your own independent free life in Asia, like finding yourself and like adventure. Experiencing new things. Also have like the safety and security of like, because traveling alone can be so lonely. Yeah, actually it's quite nice to have someone that you know is going to pick up the phone when you call at eight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yeah. I always used to feel like that with Raw. Like I would go on a night out and like I would get home and I would know that in the morning like you know when you just feel like gross in the morning and then you feel lonely phone and call him but like I lived my own life and like he lived his own life but we always had like that anchor to come back to I think I think you have to try if you like him enough all you can do is try if it doesn't work it doesn't work if it doesn't work and if like it becomes about part of my experience is being with other people for example fine you have to have that open conversation and you have to like
Starting point is 00:12:55 maybe preempt that before you both leave that that you're going to keep checking in make sure everyone's happy but if you're out there and that's not even a thought on your mind then what's the problem with having someone you like there and that's not even a thought on your mind, then what's the problem with having someone you love, like, at home that you would carry on with when you got back anyway if you could?
Starting point is 00:13:12 I don't think checking in is that big a deal. I don't think so either. Especially if you're not tech-ters. You don't really need to do it. You could once a week. Do you know what I mean? Three times, Max.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Because also, you won't be missing them as much as you would if you're at uni or or so busy so jet lagged for the start serving yeah wi-fi here and there and you'll get a lot like i don't know i look back on those days and i just actually like have such fondness for them because they're so it's so romantic yeah no it is like have that weird relationship where like you love each other but like you're just trying to figure out a way of how to tell each other that when like everything kind of is working against you yeah and finding a way to make it work I also really
Starting point is 00:13:54 think and I wouldn't I always say this I would never when I did long distance for the best part of two years I would never ever change it because I think the foundation it gives you to be independent as people, I do think we're in a bit of a rut these days of people meeting someone and moving in in two months. Yeah. That is not normal.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah. Also, there's a weird like ability to get to know someone a little bit better through like distance. I don't know what that is, but I do remember in the early days, especially with my ex, like I just think there were conversations
Starting point is 00:14:26 that we had late night over the phone that I don't know would have happened if we were just like dating normally. It's a really quick way to build trust. Yeah, true. Because like, if you're with them all the time, you have no chance to test them trust-wise and vice versa.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah. Also, you'll have so much to say. Like, you're traveling, you're experiencing new things. Like, you'll have so much to say. Like, you're travelling, you're experiencing new things. Like, you're never going to be like, oh, my day was this, my day was that. Like, it's not going to be dull.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I don't know. I kind of think, yeah, if he's a vibe, I agree. hold on. I agree. I think you can do it. Just make sure you've had
Starting point is 00:14:58 the conversation of it could get sticky, so let's just keep talking. I did this, by the way. When I went travelling, I was with my ex. Were you? Oh, but that didn't go well for you but it didn't go well but
Starting point is 00:15:06 i know we're actually really fucking bad as you're in hindsight that was bad but he wasn't away too he was home waiting for you so that is a different dynamic but we did try and like the reality of keeping in contact guys is so easy these days come on on. I was in Australia. Like, it's not hard. Voice notes, as you well know, you've just sent one in. Easy light work. Based time. Like, it's doable. I got very good at a sexy video,
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Starting point is 00:17:08 but if you've got a story that you think, girls need to hear this, then get voice noting. Okay, number two. Okay, I've had to record this so many times because there's so much to put in, but I had this friend called Lola and she started seeing this guy called Steve in December.
Starting point is 00:17:23 The first night they went out together, Lola said that she saw a message pop up on Steve's phone from someone called Sarah Redhart. When she pulled him up on it he said no no that was my mum and she says I don't understand I saw that said Sarah Redhart and he goes oh yeah my mum's called Sarah as well. She lets it go but she looks up the name Sarah in Steve's following list and she does find someone called Sarah. She then pulls him up on it again and he says, listen, Sarah's a girl that I used to be in a friendship group with years ago, but we're not friends anymore. Four months down the line, I then catch Steve kissing another girl in a club. I tell Lola, Lola informs me that Steve's already told her and Steve had painted this whole idea that it was an accident or that they didn't kiss or something and basically I have never liked Steve from the beginning I never liked him and he used that
Starting point is 00:18:08 against me he said I was just saying it to break them apart and Lola bleeds Steve over me I know don't even get me started on that so six months down the line Lola and Steve are now girlfriend boyfriend Lola goes through Steve's phone she goes into messages and she goes into snapchat and she looks up the name Sarah and there's nothing on both apps. She then goes into his Instagram DMs, clicks on his DMs and finds from the night before, after Lola and Steve had shagged, Steve had texted Sarah saying, good night, smelly. I love you. Lola wakes up Steve. They have this full argument. He denies everything. He goes home. Lola texts Sarah and says, have this full argument. He denies everything. He goes home. Lola texts Sarah and says, have you been seeing Steve? Sarah then informs her,
Starting point is 00:18:56 me and Steve have been together for the past year and a half. Me, Lola and Sarah all go out for a dinner and we find out a multitude of different things. Valentine's Day, for example. During the day, he went out for lunch with Sarah and he told Lola that he was at a football match in the evening he then left Sarah to go out for dinner with Lola and told Sarah he was going out with his football friends when he was actually with Lola. There were some days that this man would have had sex with Sarah and three hours later would be having sex with Lola. We then find out that not only is he two-timing two girlfriends, he has been shagging at least nine other girls in our city. All unprotected and finishing in all of them. Honestly, this dirty, scummy man, I was proved
Starting point is 00:19:42 right. I'm sorry. I know that that's not the point, but the fact that I didn't like him from the start, I was proved right. I'm sorry. He's got to be sociopathic, right? Like, he's definitely on some kind of fucking serial killer list. That is... I'm sorry, that is not right. Not right. To be able to so quickly...
Starting point is 00:20:01 How would you, off the cuff, tap dance around, my flatmate wrote it? Sorry, how did you think of that so quickly how would you off the cuff tap dance around my flatmate wrote it sorry how did you think of that so quickly to be you're right like off the cuff to lie that quickly all the time also sorry also admin the the like heart palpitations you must have. I love Sarah Redheart. Sorry, that is so good. Sarah Redheart. And it's your mum. Number one, that's a problem. If that's your mum and you've saved her by her first name
Starting point is 00:20:32 and a red heart, we've got a problem. Because I don't like that relationship. And number two, if it is another girl, which it turned out to be, what does she... The problem is, what do you know? This is the thing. I was just, I wrote down inkling. She had an inkling because she looked in his phone that was the first red flag that you
Starting point is 00:20:50 chose that not no blame because it's a little bit it's a little bit of a touchy topic isn't it like do you would you have you hypothetically ever looked in your boyfriend's hypothetical phone every hypothetical day no you don't babe Babe, I mean, it's... Do you? Little fish around. I only do it. Can I tell you why I look on Will's phone?
Starting point is 00:21:09 I'm not looking for anything. No, but that's what I mean. You're not, like, looking up your emails. No, but are you ever hashtag looking at, like, typing in a name into Snapchat?
Starting point is 00:21:17 No. Would you ever look at his Instagram DMs? His Instagram DMs are so full. I'm the first person to read them. Yeah, fine. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:25 It's still sliding in and he hasn't even realised how to get there yet. He doesn't know how to get there. Take a right turn to request. But if you had a little... Inkling. Oh, you'd look.
Starting point is 00:21:35 If I'd be in there 24-7, I'd have a direct mirrored phone. I'd only ever done it once with my ex because... I don't think there's any shame in it. No, it's an invasion of privacy, but also you've given me a right to invade, so I just think...
Starting point is 00:21:49 It's an invasion of privacy if you haven't been given a reason. Yeah. If you're just going there to snoop, like, with no reason... You never snoop without reason. You have, like that, if you have been given an inkling of, like,
Starting point is 00:22:03 why has he just lied there? That doesn't feel right. I actually do condone that. Do you know what the horrible thing is? When you find something and then you go, I've got to figure out how to say that I know. That's annoying. That's hard. I just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I do think being a lying scumbag, Trump. Yeah, also give a shit. Like, what are you going to do? Argue that I invaded your... They will. They'll go, I can't believe you looked on my phone. I can't believe you shagged nine women and came in them. You sicko. That's sick. He will have definitely impregnated at least one. I actually would put a hundred quid. Well, I hope he has to
Starting point is 00:22:37 pay child support for the rest of his life. Yeah, get him onto HMRC or whatever it is. It's not his taxes. Do you know what? That's what I do. Tax the cheats. I just think there should be a tax for cheating. It's disgusting. I hate it. And actually this podcast,
Starting point is 00:22:53 sometimes I find it so joyful and sometimes I find it really sad. Because why are all these fuckers out there doing this shit? Sarah, Judy 2 and Lola should not have to go for dinner together and find out that Steve the shagger
Starting point is 00:23:06 is shagging not only them, but other people. So I don't actually understand the reasoning behind dinner because I think that's a bit much. That's a lot, girls. I'd have just had a walk in the common. Could you not have had a WhatsApp group even?
Starting point is 00:23:19 Sure, voice notes. Do you know what I mean? No, actually, you'd want to get a look at her. I would. Sarah Redhart, come on then, let's look. The thing is, I wouldn't hate her. No, I know. It you know what I mean? I don't think initially you'd want to get a look at her. I don't. Sarah Redhart, come on then, let's look. The thing is,
Starting point is 00:23:26 I wouldn't hate her. No, I know. It's not, I mean, she sounded, I can't actually figure out whether Sarah's the main catch or Lola's the side piece.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I think Sarah's the main one and Lola's the side piece because Sarah said they've been going out for a year or whatever it was. Yeah. I mean, honestly guys,
Starting point is 00:23:41 there's no advice. Oh, there's no advice apart from to leave him and get therapy, I think. I don't know. I don't know how you ever go over that. And perhaps a piece of advice here, and listen, I don't always follow it
Starting point is 00:23:51 because one of my friends, and I won't name her, did quite early on in my relationship with my ex say, Oh, yep. I don't like him. I wouldn't have him at a dinner party. I remember what she said. She sat me down and she was like, I don't like him. I don't think he's right for you. I wouldn't have him at a dinner party. I remember what she said. She sat me down and she was like, I don't like him.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I don't think he's right for you. I wouldn't have him at a dinner party. And I just don't really think you should be with him. And in hindsight, it's not a helpful thing. It's not a helpful wedge to drive. It's not, but they're often right yeah your friends and you have to learn it by yourself but it is just perhaps something to tune into note it yeah
Starting point is 00:24:33 I think it's a very a hundred percent and I think sometimes we ignore our friends because they're actually saying what we need to hear but we don't want to hear it yeah and we always go well you don't know them you have no idea because, well, you don't know them. You have no idea. Because it's like, you don't know them like I know them. Obviously, you're not sucking their dick. But like, you see. You see a lot from the outside.
Starting point is 00:24:55 It's hard to get it right though, because it can be received okay, and it can be received really badly. Imagine if I said that about our role. You wouldn't be wrong. No, I would. This is the thing. Sometimes there are personality clashes
Starting point is 00:25:07 and it's like, if you're different to your friends, you're not going to pick the same kind of person. I mean, Judy too was right about Steve, but that isn't going to be a 10 out of 10 formula. I agree. But also the problem is like, as Lola,
Starting point is 00:25:19 sometimes you are in like, you hang on to the denial so strongly. Come on, babe. Do you know what I mean? And I think we must stop doing that. Not just you. Lots and lots of people do it.
Starting point is 00:25:29 You hang on to the denial of she can't be right. I'm crazy. I didn't see that. Just like, look at what's in front of you, babe. Why has he put Sarah Redhart and lied straight to your face
Starting point is 00:25:39 when you know that that's not true? Sorry, also. In that instance, the first thing I would say is you're a lying scumbag. Ring your mum. Ring your mum then. Ring her. Oh great, I'dag. Ring your mum. What? Ring your mum then.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Ring her. Oh great, I'd love to meet your mum. Get her on the blower. Yeah, yeah. Call Sarah Redhart. I think sometimes we're all a bit afraid
Starting point is 00:25:53 of calling them out in the moment. Yeah, because it's psycho. Yeah. I'm the psycho. Because when you, like, I think when you're trying
Starting point is 00:26:02 to catch someone out you feel like you have to have all this like mounting evidence. Yeah. You don't need loads. No, I do feel like're trying to catch someone out, you feel like you have to have all this, like, mounting evidence. Yeah. You don't need loads. No, I do feel like mostly we have a sixth sense. Like, I'll never forget. I'd only been with my ex a few months.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And I don't quite, I can't really remember the story, but basically he'd been on a night out and he'd, I knew the geography of the town in which he lived. And the way that he told the story meant that it was impossible for him to have had the night he had. I could have left that, but I was like, I know you're lying
Starting point is 00:26:29 because you couldn't have gone to McDonald's if you were at, like, do you know what I mean? He didn't add up. So I said, sorry, it's actually impossible for you to have got a Maccy's
Starting point is 00:26:38 if you were at blah, blah in that space of time. Turns out he went to a house party with some girls and a friend because the friend was trying to pull one of the girls and he was at a house party with some girls and a friend because the friend was trying to pull one of the girls and he was at the house party till 3am and he didn't want to say because nothing happened but it sounds bad and it's like i could have left that but i knew i was right yeah and also he could have lied i wouldn't have known so hashtag not all men
Starting point is 00:26:58 when you call them out like when you don't call them out, they get more confident every time they lie. Sorry, the cockiness to shag 11 women and come inside them. That is fucking disgusting. Richard, beat this. C***, okay? Fucking c***y c***y, because I think... Richard, get the beeper out! She's back, Rich!
Starting point is 00:27:19 Quick! Who do you think he was? That's the thing. The audacity. I hope he rots in hell. I hope he contracts syphilis on his face. Quick! Who do you think he was? That's the thing. The audacity. I hope he rots in hell. I hope he, I hope he can contract syphilis on his face. I hope he gets super gonorrhea a hundred times.
Starting point is 00:27:31 I hope he finds Jesus. Or something. Like, Jesus Christ. Do some, like, charity work. Do better. Do something. Do fucking anything. Please.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Other than spreading super gonorrhea. You prick. Disgusting. Do something. Do fucking anything. Please. Other than spreading super gonorrhea. You prick. Disgusting. Do you need two? Three? I can't count. Hey, girls. So, a little story about me and this guy.
Starting point is 00:27:55 We were in a situationship for about 10 months. And then he, in February, went to the army. He said he didn't want to be in a relationship. I was like, a bit annoying, but fine. And we were, but we still were like kind of in a situation ship till May. Then in May, we go no contact. Three days ago, he messaged me. I hadn't read it.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I hadn't replied. And then yesterday, our friend said, can you reply to him? It's really important. Then I called him. He said, have you read the text? I said, no. He said, read that, get back to him. It's really important. Then I called him. He said, have you read the text? I said, no. He said, read that, get back to me. And I was like, right. I read it. Stop crying. I am with my friend. She's like, what does it say? And I said, it says he's in a relationship. Call my
Starting point is 00:28:36 other friends. We discuss it. I then go to my friend's house and then I call him back. And he's like, have you read the message? And I said, yeah. Like, cool, whatever. Thanks for telling me. Trying to act really unbothered by it. I didn't want him to know I was upset. Everyone else can know, but I don't want him to know that. And in the message and also on the phone, he was like, can you delete the Instagram posts of us? And I was like, what's that got to do with anything?
Starting point is 00:29:02 And he was like, I just think it's a bit weird. And she also doesn't want them up there. And I was like, why have you been looking at my Instagram? First of all, it's not that interesting. And he was like, yeah, well, we have looked and we'd like you to take them down. And I said, well, no, because they're photos of me and my friends. I can post what I want. I don't want to take them down. We don't look like a couple. It's not disrespectful. I'm keeping them up. And we basically argue on the phone for about 20 minutes. I try and ask questions about this girl. He's not having any of it. He's getting really angry and annoyed. And then he ends up hanging up. I go onto my Instagram just for a general school after the phone call. And his girlfriend
Starting point is 00:29:39 has followed me. She messages me saying, don't stop trying to drag this all up. Just be respectful and take it down. Then I post a story of me and my best friend and she replies to it saying, you wouldn't like it. Can you just take them down? I wasn't going to reply. And then I was eventually like, fine, I'm just going to reply to her. And in the message, I was like, I don't really care to be respectful to either of you. I'm not taking them down. They're photos of me and my friends. And if you can't accept that people had a past and I gave them both a solution, I was like, just block me and don't look at my Instagram.
Starting point is 00:30:12 So I still haven't taken the post down. I don't want to there with me and my friends. Like, I think it's fine to have up. Everyone else I've spoken to about it says it's fine to have up. If I had been asked to do it, I may have deleted it anyway. But now I've been asked, I don't want to do it. I may have deleted it anyway. But now I've been asked I don't want to do it and neither of them
Starting point is 00:30:26 have blocked me yet. She has seen my message and not replied. It's also his birthday today so I hope he has a very bad day. And yeah, so am I in the wrong
Starting point is 00:30:35 for keeping them up? I mean, this is just... Oh, Judy 3. Come on. I mean, come on. This is so petty, guys. You've got to do
Starting point is 00:30:43 something about this. I mean, whoever this cow is, she needs to go... Did you just look at me? I went, get a life. Sorry. Sorry, cow face.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Cow face. Get something else to think about. I just think, yeah, do you know what, Judy 3? Actually, it's not weird, but it's not necessary for you to have them up. I like that you've gone stubborn and you're principle-led now. I like that because you've been asked, you won't do it.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I like that about you. I think it's funny because I do think it's pathetic that she cares enough. That's us. Babe, you're us in this situation. Yeah, you're being so stubborn. And now you've been asked to do something you're like hell no i don't need to do no one can tell me what to post on my instagram
Starting point is 00:31:29 it's it's you're right the the content does actually matter like it's not you know sometimes you go on a boy's like you know you do some digging you find his ex and sometimes the girl will still have like their birthday post up or their anniversary post and it's like a bit mushy and i never mind it you had a bit mushy and I never mind it. You had a pass before me. I would never expect you not to. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I actually like looking at the ex-girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I think it's good vibes to know the kind of girls they've been with. Couldn't agree more. Epic. Like in any like context. Couldn't agree more. It's brilliant. It's very good market research.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yeah, and if they look like a good time gal, you're like, epic. Okay, I can trust this guy. I like it. If they don't look like a good time gal, you think, oh, you okay, I can trust this guy, I like it. And if they don't look like a good time gal, you think, you start to worry.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Do you know what I mean? He's punching. Right. Now that he's with me. Now I'm a step up. Yeah, and I do think the content matters
Starting point is 00:32:14 because it's not even like, you know, I had, my ex's ex had a highlight on her Instagram of him. Anyone who's doing that.
Starting point is 00:32:26 And everything about him, videos of him, videos of them, like loving each other, love notes. Like, it was a bit much, but I didn't slide in her DMs and go, can you take it down? Because it means nothing to me. Why would I care? It's so embarrassing to have that on your Instagram. But then I just feel like, oh, babe, if you need that there,
Starting point is 00:32:41 then fine. The highlight, babe. It's a bit different than a post two years ago. Why have you still got it on there? But I still wouldn't slide in and go, why is it there? No, no, I wouldn't slide in. But my main takeaway wouldn't be, oh, what a cow. I just think how embarrassing for you.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Yeah, I would think, bless you. Do you know what I mean? I hope you're okay and your healing journey is going well. I can't let that go. Just let it go. I think... Oh, I think for the sake of it, wouldn't you just delete the post? I think so too.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I think she's pathetic. Listen. And I think he's annoying. He's like... I think it's sake of it, wouldn't you just delete the post? I think so too. I think she's pathetic. Listen. And I think he's annoying. He's like, been told off. I think it's unfair because it is your Instagram and you do have a right to put whatever you want on there. And it is a group pic. You were mutual friends and he's moved on.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Sorry, why don't you just block them actually? Yeah, I think just get them blocked. Just absolutely restrict all content from them. I like it. That's what I would do and keep the post. Yeah, either do that or if you want to be the bigger person, which I really do struggle with,
Starting point is 00:33:30 then you have to... If this was happening to G, I would say, babe, it's going to hurt your pride, but just for the f***ing sake of it, to get them out of your life. Archive. Yeah, archive, good.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Don't delete. Then when she's not looking, you can put it back on there do you look really fit in the pic is that what it is is it like a 1010 picture of you because I have that sometimes
Starting point is 00:33:50 when a friend goes can you take that picture down I think you're mad I've never looked better do you know what I mean no I can't yeah if you want either you block them
Starting point is 00:33:57 or you just delete it and move on with your life do you know what I mean weird that he was calling you sorry I'd be like what do you want why are you telling me you've got a girlfriend good for you do what I mean? Weird that he was calling you. Sorry, I'd be like, what do you want? Why are you telling me you've got a girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:34:06 Good for you. Do you want a medal? I haven't. I miss you. I have that text from my ex, the one that she told me when I was in Australia. Just so you know,
Starting point is 00:34:13 I've got a girlfriend. Basically, it was like this long, it was like an essay. It was like a three-page essay. The only time I ever understand it. I found this love. Sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Disgusting. The only time I ever understand it is if you're mutual friends and you're going to have to see them together and he's like pre-empting you. Maybe that's what this guy was doing. Or even then, get someone else to,
Starting point is 00:34:32 actually, maybe not. Yeah, I think it's not. I think that is fine. But also, why did he have to tell you on the phone? Sorry, why did he have to tell you? Why did you have to read the message? Why could he not?
Starting point is 00:34:41 Have you read the message? Have you read the message? No, for life. Open your mouth. It's because he prepared it. Well, also, it's because he obviously is getting it in the ear.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Like, she needs, she still loves you. She's got those posts up. No, babe. I just, having a good hair day and I want that post on my Instagram. Babe, listen.
Starting point is 00:34:57 In six months, those Instagram posts won't matter. I agree. I think you need to delete them. I hate to say it. And I rate your principle, but I think it's not worth it. I think it's not worth it
Starting point is 00:35:04 if you want the ag to go away basically. If you want to fight to the death, babe, fight to the death. But over him, like do you care?
Starting point is 00:35:09 Do you know what I mean? What's the point? Shit like that is really hard. It really, the path doesn't bother me. Drive me, those kind of people are like kryptonite to me.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Also, it gets worse. It's like a snowball. Like it starts with the Instagram post and then especially if you're mutual friends, it'll just keep rolling, rolling, rolling.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Bigger, bigger, bigger. You'll look at him funny one day and she'll be like, I believe you looked at him. I can't, I really can't stand it. I just think do something more interesting with your life. I don't want to be with him. Otherwise I'd be with him.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Do you know what I mean? Embarrassing for you, really. Should we debrief? Yeah, let's. Okay. Okay, duty number one. Long term, long distance. We think you should stay Okay. Okay, Judy number one. Long term. Long distance.
Starting point is 00:35:46 We think you should stay together. Yeah, and give it a go. Go on! Give it a go! Life's too short to, like, pass people by that, like, make an impact on you. Better to have loved and lost
Starting point is 00:35:57 than never loved at all. Say it again. Say it again. Say it again. Judy number two. Lying scumbag. F*** man. I've got... F*** man. I've got...
Starting point is 00:36:05 F*** man. Honestly, scum of the earth. We've got nothing to say other than we're so glad you're out of that. We'll do some voodoo on him. Also, Judy two, will you give Lola a hug from us? Because that is savage.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I'm sorry she had to go through that. Because even if, like, he was a nasty f***, you liked him at one point and he's done that to you and that is horrendous when mola comes out the other side you know when you come out and you think was i under some kind of trance why did i like him yeah oh loli you're gonna have a glow up you're gonna love yourself don't yeah and also everyone is a lesson or a blessing and the lesson here is actually trust your intuition because you knew because. Because I do often think, not just like in everything,
Starting point is 00:36:46 we're so out of tune with it. If you knew, you knew. You knew Sarah Loveheart was not his mother. Loveheart. Redheart. Redheart. Sarah Redheart. Yeah, you knew.
Starting point is 00:36:57 You knew. And you didn't say anything because maybe you felt like, oh, he would just say, oh, you're being crazy. Say it. Let him say that. Let me be crazy then. I'll show you crazy. Have a little bit of Judy's power, babe.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Judy. Yeah, go in there with your dragon. Chakalas. Number three. Oh, we didn't even say red flag, army. I mean, already. No. Hashtag not all army men, but that is a red flag.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Hashtag not all army men. Hashtag quite a lot of army men. Hashtag sometimes in army men. Hashtag quite a lot of army men. Hashtag sometimes in the army men. Hashtag pretty much all army men. She's joking. Allegedly. Allegedly. No defamation here to army men.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Did you hear? They're trying to beef up the army. Yeah, well, there's going to be even more walking red flags, aren't there? For God's sake, watch out, girls. Watch out for the men in uniform.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I think, babe, if you want to fight for the next year of your life with these people, stick to your guns. If you want to move on, it's just an Instagram post. Sacrifice the pic. Let it go. By the way, sometimes we have this argument. She'll look great and I'll look like shit. I'll look great and she'll look like shit.
Starting point is 00:38:00 One of us has to sacrifice somewhere. Someone has to compromise. And it's like, will it make you never want to leave the house again? Like, that's how bad it needs to be for like...
Starting point is 00:38:10 Or is it something that like, okay, it's minging, I just won't look at it. But I won't look at it and I can deal with it being there. And in a week, I'll be over it.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Yeah, this girl doesn't want to leave the house knowing that those pictures exist. So maybe you might need to show her some grace. She's not well, clearly. She's spending too much time talking about this. So maybe you might need to show her some grace. She's not well, clearly. She's spending too much time talking about
Starting point is 00:38:28 this. So, like, you know, be her cowpaw. Do you know what I mean? Yes. And delete the pics. Hundred. Hundred. Oh, who was your star of the week? I actually think it's got to be Judy number one. Oh, is it? Yeah, because you felt quite strongly. That was your intuition. She needs to stay with him.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Just because I've been there, done that, babe. And sometimes it does pay off and sometimes it doesn't. But you can't know until you try. Never have regrets. That is one thing I'm really learning. There are so many opportunities, especially in love, that I wish I'd taken. Really?
Starting point is 00:38:56 And I didn't. Yeah. Just what if? What if? And even if it's a nothing, you at least gave it a go. Exactly. Heart on the sleeve, baby. Okay, question of the week. We do have a jingle now. at least gave it a go. Exactly. Heart on the sleeve, baby. Okay, question of the week.
Starting point is 00:39:05 We do have a jingle now. Richard, play it right now. Question of the week. Got to do this one because I was thinking about it whilst I was in Bali. Ops. How many hours before your flight
Starting point is 00:39:23 do you get to the airport? Oh, I saw this. Isn't it? Because it's actually something that you can like fall out about. Yeah. Because Hulse, my family,
Starting point is 00:39:31 would love her. She wants like 50 minutes. She wants on, yeah, she wants to get like in an hour. Yeah. Well, I thought she'd be the other way. No, no, no. She's like,
Starting point is 00:39:41 why would I spend time at the airport? I need to be efficient. Long haul, we were flying a 12 hour flight. She wanted to get there two hours before. What airport? Yeah, that's more than enough time. way no no no she's like why would i spend time at the airport i need to be efficient long haul we were flying a 12-hour flight you wanted to get there two hours before what airport yeah that's more than enough time no no two two hours was like her being generous to me because i was like me and it would do we not do three what would you do um i'm gonna spend the whole day at the airport like it's the whole thing i'm gonna go shopping i. The only reason I like the airport is for the shopping. But these days, duty free isn't even that good.
Starting point is 00:40:08 It's literally the exact same price. Yeah, it's not good actually. Because I tried to buy my mum some Clarins and it was more expensive. So now I... Babe, two hours, absolute tops. Really? My mum is like you. Like, she would want to be...
Starting point is 00:40:21 James is my stepdad as well. It's one of those things that I like heard once upon a time that you need to get there three hours before. Who's ever said that to you because I've never heard that in my life.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Have you never? Never, babe. My stepdad works for the airport, for an airline and he always says three hours. Three hours.
Starting point is 00:40:37 What do you throw? J-I-C. Okay. J-I-C cues that he throw. When have you ever, especially now they've got everything AI and techie. Can't techie. When have you ever, especially now they've got everything AI and techie. Can't techie.
Starting point is 00:40:46 When have you ever, ever, what have you done in three hours at the airport? I'll tell you what, once upon a time. Okay, once. I got stopped and frisked in a private room.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Did you? Because I went off. She looked dodgy AF. And do you know what it was? My nipple piercing. How bad is that? So they had to frisk me and I had to show this woman
Starting point is 00:41:02 my tit, which I don't think can be right. I was about 17 at the time. It's not right. Okay, if you don't have a nipple piercing, you only need two hours. Okay, would you want to know what the galley said? I think they would have said plus three hours plus
Starting point is 00:41:14 because everyone's so nervous about it. Three hours or over. 72%. Yep. Under two hours, no stress. Under two hours. 28%. I got there,
Starting point is 00:41:24 when I went to Seville last week, my flight was at 2.20 and I got there at 12.30. The thing is, rationally, like I know you're right because I've never ever got there with two hours
Starting point is 00:41:35 and it's like not got to the gate. Flying does something to people. I don't know what it is. It's people who were quite chilled in normal life. Yeah. But suddenly become these like freaky deaky.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Freaky deaky. Lost my hair. Don't know where my passport is. Oh my God, I've got to be at the gate an hour before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, do I need another wig?
Starting point is 00:41:52 Pathetic. Pathetic. I don't know what it is. It's just like a train. But it's not. Do you know what I mean? It's just like a train. It does something to us.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Oh, my family always have arguments about this. James, like my family, will go, me, my mum and sister will go shopping and as soon as we go through security, James will go to the gate.
Starting point is 00:42:07 No! And he'll be like, don't miss the flight and we'll be like, I've never missed a flight in my life. I'm not going to miss the flight. I'll see you at the gate, mister. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Also, rarely, rarely, rarely, rarely do they board on time. Rarely. Babe, sorry, I don't know why you're behaving like you're relaxed. You're not a relaxed individual
Starting point is 00:42:22 when it comes to flying. No, I'm not. I'm not relaxed. I'm not pretending to be relaxed. But you won't catch me at the gate as soon as the screen goes on. You'll catch me in WH Smith buying a new book.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Do you know what you'll catch me doing? You'll catch me spritzing, spritzing my whole body in Tom Ford. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You will catch me using the Liz Earle 8-Hour Miracle Cream.
Starting point is 00:42:42 That's what you will catch me doing. So don't worry about me, but I will need time, especially if I'm with someone with an Amex, because I will be getting my fair share of fizz and food in the lounge. That is true. Okay? That is true.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Just so you know, that's where I'll be. Good episode, Gally. Thank you so much for showing up, for turning up. Thanks so much for dating so many dirtbags who we've got things to talk about. If you know a dirtbagbag or you are a dirtbag then yeah, actually,
Starting point is 00:43:07 I'd like some Steve's to voice note in. We'd like dirtbags now is your right to reply. You're just a teenage dirtbag and we want to know why. Love you. Love you so much.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Love you. Love you so much. Love you. Love you Rach. Bye. Love you. Bye. you

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