Leave A Message with Ally & G - 28 - Post-Summer Clarity & When You Get Too Honest

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

Brat Summer is well and truly over, Ally & G are back from their many holidays and we're left feeling an emptiness that is only too familiar. Did the Summer solve our relationship woes? Have we come o...ut the other side with the love of our life in hand and a restored trust in men, society and dairy? NO! On this weeks episode of Leave A Message we're busting through the post-Summer rustiness by connecting with the Gallies and solving more dilemmas! From dealing with an ex who pens disparaging remarks in his journal to the complications of political disparities in romantic relationships, Ally & G talk about the importance of shared values, workplace dynamics and how to introduce partners to parents. Want to be a part of the group chat and featured on the pod? Send your voice note to https://wa.me/message/LLWFXNK4YXMHE1 (and please, don’t leave out ANY of the juicy details). NOTICE: Any advice provided in this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute professional advice or guidance; all information, content and materials presented are for entertainment purposes only. Any injury, damage or loss that may result from the consumption of this podcast is at the sole responsibility and risk of the listener. Follow Ally & G Instagram: @allyandg TikTok: @allyandg YouTube: @allyandg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 no no i prefer summer if you ask me summer or winter i'd pick summer like when the clocks go back i'll probably have a little cry okay and it's so dark and it's just like so depressing. Anyway. I love it. I think I'm with Rihanna. I think it's so nice when it gets cosy. Oof, no. Also, babe, you live in London. It's not nice in the heat.
Starting point is 00:00:32 It's nicer in the heat than it is in the blinking cold. Blinking cold. Welcome back to Leave a Message, guys. We've had a couple of weeks off. We are rusty. And don't we know it? Yeah, God, we have, haven't we? Wait, we've had a long time weeks off and we are rusty and don't we know it yeah god we have haven't we we've had a long time off this pod are we not here last week no we had a
Starting point is 00:00:51 meeting last week we came in that's why i'm confused yeah i reckon we've had a month off this no way yeah i don't think we've recorded for a month so guys hold on to your hats this could be you know touching you haven't noticed obviously because we have been releasing episodes every week really good at how we've done that i will never know with all the holidays we've had shocking really don't worry we're now back september to december no one's going anywhere we might go for a weekend away um but we should be missing a tuesday i'm sure people listening will relate to the feeling of being a bit rusty post-summer. Do you know what I mean? Also, you don't take your job seriously in summer, do you?
Starting point is 00:01:29 Because you clock off early and you take holiday, you take all your leave. And like, do you know what I mean? So maybe you're also heading back to work this week or back to the office and you're a bit like, oh, there is nothing worse. You know when you actually can't remember what you do for work, like for a job. Or like any, I always used to get this, like I couldn't remember my password to log into my laptop. Yeah, that always happens. That's the best though. That's when you know you had a really good holiday.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah, you switched off. Yeah. Although sometimes I think, you know when you get back on that first day after holiday and you look at your inbox, you think, oh, was it worth it to have that many emails when I come back? Oh, it made me think I've got to get a job that pays me more so I can go on more holidays. What am I doing here in this miserable office? No, but even if you get paid more, you don't necessarily get more holiday. Oh, that is true. You've forgotten what it's like to have 28 days.
Starting point is 00:02:12 28 days is so stingy. Yeah, 28 days, I really do think that's stingy. How many weeks is that? Five weeks? No, not even, four. Four times four, five. Yeah, no, five. Well, yeah, no, I guess because you don't count the weekend that's quite a lot actually for of course whole year no one goes on like two two
Starting point is 00:02:34 week holidays a year that's like a lot of money a lot of time no no i know but also then i always think by the time you get to christmas you must be knackered you've got to save some for christmas you've got to save holiday for christmas okay the got to save holiday for Christmas. Okay, the one good thing about PR, and this is the only thing I will say that does sell the industry, is that you get the days between Christmas and like the 2nd of January for free. You don't have to take them. The office is closed. Loads of places do that. The Beeb does that. So basically
Starting point is 00:02:56 find an industry where you get those days for free. I'd actually put that on the high priority list for criteria for a new job. I think it's actually sick in the head people that don't do that. What are you doing on 26th of December? Oh, God, working in Tesco. You've got to be there, haven't you? When do they open again? 27th? I hope they get
Starting point is 00:03:11 paid triple. Oh, it must be overtime. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to love that. Paying a half. As you should. Yeah, really good. So anyway, yeah, that's that, isn't it? We've been away, but you won't have noticed, but today you might notice, you know. Noticed.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Today you might noticed. Today you might noticed. You might noticed that we can't speak properly. Because it's been so long. It's been so effing long. But today we have an exciting episode. We do. Lined up by producer Rahana.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Producer Rahana has not had a day off. She's been busy at work because everyone keeps voice noting her. It's brilliant. She said she was obviously inundated. Didn't know what to do with them all. We've actually banked two weeks worth of content now, everyone. Thank you so much for showing up. Really good.
Starting point is 00:03:53 We've also got some images, which is really great. So for future messages, please send in... We're not going to share them on the show, but it just gives a bit more context, shall we? Yeah, for us. We like the reference. Yeah, but maybe Rich could put them in the video. No.
Starting point is 00:04:06 No, babe, I think we're going to have to start signing consent forms and things if we do that. That's not right. No, sorry, this is a separate topic, but like,
Starting point is 00:04:13 if you're sending the picture to a voice-noted group that you know is going to be on a podcast, no, sorry, Rihanna's been shaking her head. I agree. I think it's probably
Starting point is 00:04:22 safe space. It's like saying, but sending it to Ali G and Rihanna is a bit different to showing it to 6,000 people on YouTube. True. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I do. Fine. People are entitled to their private lives.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Sorry, I do keep forgetting that. As we are reminded constantly by Porry Pyatt. And he was not entitled to a private life on holiday. No, and there was no private life to be had on holiday. We had him in his trunks on TikTok, and he just had to get over it. And actually, he loved it. And when he watched it, he was like, that's so funny.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And when we were filming it, he was like, I don't really see the vision. And we were like, just relax yourself. You will get it. But this is the thing. You must show and tell with him now he understands the vision perhaps we might get him to do one thing a month
Starting point is 00:05:09 guys you might get lucky yeah one thing a month it was a great video thanks do we need to do an intro this is leave a message we forgot what we were doing shall I do it you always do it
Starting point is 00:05:24 I do think that we should have I think yeah you should do it but I do think that we should have a pre-recorded intro you've said this quite a few times now Rahana how do you feel about it I am actually very pro it
Starting point is 00:05:33 but maybe we should ask the galleys okay galleys do you like the I think to be honest Al this isn't an insult
Starting point is 00:05:40 you do it the same every week true so I don't think it's maybe we need to nail down the script you've got it nailed i could do your script right now okay go on then oh yeah we've got to do an intro okay this is leave a message this is the podcast by the galleys for the galleys my name's ali this is g and we're gonna get into the voice notes that's what you do
Starting point is 00:05:58 is my voice that annoying wow we haven't picked a name. Oh. What's a Greek name? We've just been to Greece, everyone. Oh, I don't know. We need to stop doing this because we're just culturally appropriating left, right and centre, aren't we? I don't think it's culturally appropriating a name. Because we never pick actual, like,
Starting point is 00:06:16 the Spanish name was so dodged. What was his name? Yanis. Yanis is a Greek name. Apparently that's cultural appropriation called in. Is it? I don't know. I don't know. You just said it was cultural appropriation.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I think there's worse ways to culture appropriate. Than just to like give a stereotype. Stereotyping, I guess, is what it is. Absolutely. Oh, sorry, Yanis. I don't think it's a stereotype. Yanis, the Greek man. Stavros.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Oh, Stavros. No, don't pick Stavros because that is stereotyping. The guy in the video, his name was Stavros. Was it oh Stavros no don't pick Stavros because that is stereotyping the guy though in the video his name was Stavros was it yeah all greek men
Starting point is 00:06:49 hashtag not all greek men yes I like Yanis Yanis okay Yanis number one hit it hello ladies context this is
Starting point is 00:06:58 2022 so flashback a couple years ago feels like ancient history now I'm four years into a relationship with someone that I met in high school it's been a little bit up and down but like nothing absolutely crazy flash forward we're in the summer we've just been on holiday we're both graduating uni and my boyfriend gets a text on his phone from like a random number and it was said are you still with blank my name I know you give us different names so I won't say but um and
Starting point is 00:07:27 then it was like you're way too good for her and then he sent me a text saying like oh do you know who this number is I checked my phone and I didn't know the number obviously I I text this girl because I was like why who's saying that my boyfriend's too good for me like what the hell and then this girl proceeds to whats WhatsApp me pictures of my boyfriend's journal from January that year of him writing like absolutely heinous things about me. So one of the things was, I can't see her ever being the mother of my children. Yeah, pause for a gasp there. The other thing was, he called me half bitch in brackets in every sense of the word comma half c word I used to like maybe cross when there was a car coming like and I didn't see it and then he'd
Starting point is 00:08:17 say like get run over next time see if I care and he wrote that in his journal as well so like he's writing all this shit like literally horrible things and bearing in mind some context at the time we didn't know that I was autistic um I sort of knew that there was something maybe not not like completely typical about me but since then I've since been diagnosed with autistic and a lot of these problems that he had were to do with sort of like my autism so literally I'm on the way up to his graduation in a car with his dad, his brother and his mum. And I'm getting these texts through and I'm like, there is no way in hell I'm going to your graduation. I'm going to sit there whilst we're clapping you across the stage with a smile on my face after this. I was like, this is ridiculous. And like when I brought it up to him, he sort of just said like, you can't blame me.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I was in such a bad place, like mental health wise. And listen, call me a bitch any day, call me a c**k any day. But to have worded it half bitch, half c**k, like that's Shakespearean. That's taken a lot of thought and a lot of sort of like going through all of the processes before you put that pen to paper. And this is the point where I tell you, disappoint the nation or at least all of the processes before you put that pen to paper um and this is the point where i tell you disappoint the nation or at least all of the galleys and say that i did stay with him um there's still that little bit of doubt in me that like does he does he feel like he
Starting point is 00:09:36 wants me to be the mother of his children now and yeah i'm sorry this is so long rahana i'm really really sorry but i am autistic so if you're annoyed at me then that's ableist um okay love you guys bye okay there is so much to unpack I think we should start by saying no one ever disappoints us by staying with anyone because we've all been there and also you like life's a journey yeah you have to like go through the motions to learn the things that you need to we say all the time like you said to me like when when you're leaving a relationship only you can do that you're steering that ship honey so no one's disappointed in you for staying because it's going to take you as long as it takes you to eventually leave this person please actually sorry i actually like have no words because you asked me what i would do babe i would literally get in my car sellotape him to the fucking road and drive him over like i'm not joking
Starting point is 00:10:30 i would literally i would allegedly allegedly no defamation well no no plot to kill don't worry. No, I'm not a murderer. In my heart, I'm not a murderer. But in my fantasy, I would literally, I would shoot him with a bow and arrow. I'd put a sword through his beating heart. I'm going to challenge you. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Go on. I know what you're like when you're on a rampage in your journal. What kind of things have you written in your journal? About Raw. I've never... Raw, me, your sister, your mum. Okay, I'll tell you what I've written. your journal what kind of things have you written in your journal about raw i've never me your sister your mom i'll tell you what i've written like there's he's so fucking annoying i wouldn't like if it's got to the point where you're like i can't insulting her and her personality
Starting point is 00:11:16 and her now autism that we know now okay it's one thing to write she's a little bitch she didn't let me wear her jeans or whatever or like she's stolen my sunglasses or whatever it is to to write she's a little bitch she didn't let me wear her jeans or whatever or like she's stolen my sunglasses or whatever it is to be like she's I can't ever see her as the mother of my children
Starting point is 00:11:32 she's half bitch half c**k sorry that is wild that's so creative it's Shakespearean it is but obviously
Starting point is 00:11:41 I'm not saying it's a good thing but if you're going to insult me insult me well, and you did, thank you so much. Also, if I had then found out, like, I don't know, no judgment, babe,
Starting point is 00:11:51 because as she's just said, like, no one's ever disappointing us. I'm just saying, like, knowing myself and the rage that lives within me, I wouldn't even be able to look at him. Yeah, I think you're right to not be able to, like, you're right, you can get over the fact that, like, one day he thought you
Starting point is 00:12:05 were half bitch half but to to really because also i think from thinking about it the other way around it's really deep to look at your partner and to realize that you wouldn't actually want to have kids with them and even if he said that in a fit of rage he wrote it down i always think when you've managed to there's things we think right that we're like i would never say that out loud but i've thought it just because it's like i'm cross or i'm upset or whatever or my mind's just like running wild but when you actually like take the time to sit and write you're kind of giving that air time and that is quite a deep thing to say about your partner okay if we already said that if you'd found that in his journal yeah you're just driving over him are you in a car allegedly you might want to do that yeah i might i definitely
Starting point is 00:12:52 kick him out the house yeah i don't think you would stay with him i mean i do unless he was like i was on like ayahuasca when i wrote that i would be like then what is the point of us being together because if that's something that you want in your life to have children and you see yourself being with that person then like what are you still doing here like get out then why are you with me also there are some things you can't unhear and that might be one of them for me yes like i agree it's the same thing looking in someone's eyes when you know they've cheated on you like how can you retrust that person i personally don't know as in they've looked at you and lied and you believe them in that moment and then you later found out they've been lying yeah yeah like it's the same kind of thing yeah no there's a side to them that like is not good vibes also babe there is something
Starting point is 00:13:39 to be said like we can kind of chat a bit about, like, how you had, like, a late diagnosis with your, like, neurodivergence. But that is you, whether you were diagnosed at that time or not. Those things about you make you you. And he was insulting them. So, like, whether now he knows you're autistic so he's more tolerant of those things, fine. But also, you kind of want the person you're with to love
Starting point is 00:14:05 those things about you whether they have a label or not i don't know babe i reckon on saturday if raw had a journal he didn't know wouldn't have even bothered with half bitch he would have just said she's a total fucking bitch yeah potentially do you know what i mean yeah i get what you're saying well so you're saying if if like you behaved like a bitch and then later we diagnosed you with something i was still a bitch yeah i do know what you behaved like a bitch and then later we diagnosed you with something that enabled your bitchiness. Yeah, I do know what you mean. I think there too, it depends if there
Starting point is 00:14:32 are other things. The crossing the road thing, like next time I'll just let you be hit by the car, like that is just a bit like not very caring and loving. I don't know what's going on there. He said that to her face. I can't remember whether he just wrote that in the journal. Why would you write that down? What a weird thing to write.
Starting point is 00:14:47 He went on a hate campaign. Yes. In his own spare time. He went on a smear campaign. But like a private smear campaign, which is just weird. You've got to let some things out. But that is a lot. It's scary to think about what people actually think about you.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I know. I always think that. If you could read other people's minds, the things that people think about you. I don't think I'd be able to make it through life, to be honest. No. No, no, no. If you could read...
Starting point is 00:15:14 You've got this. What's that would you rather you always do? Would you rather... What was it? It's something like if you could read a book... Okay. Would you rather... So there's a book about everything that anyone has ever said about you, good and bad, and who could read a book. Okay, would you rather... So there's a book about everything
Starting point is 00:15:26 that anyone has ever said about you, good and bad, and who said it and when. So like, I don't know, maybe you said to someone in the street, oh yeah, Ali was wearing jeans today. I don't know, everything. But then also the times that like people had said I was a bitch or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:40 All of that's in this big long book. And the options are you can either read it, but when you can't just read half of it and stop, you have to read the whole thing or never read it. Obviously, I'd read it. I'd never read it. How long would I have to read it? Well, it depends.
Starting point is 00:15:53 It depends how much we were talking. She gets so bored. She's like, oh, I can't be told again that I'm beautiful. No, no, you have to read it. It's getting so dull. It takes me a while. You have to read the whole thing, but you'd have to do it in one sitting. It's not like an exam. Oh, okay a while. You have to read the whole thing, but you'd have to do it in one sitting.
Starting point is 00:16:06 It's not like an exam. Oh, okay, fine. You just have to read it, even if it's like getting really sticky bum. And mean stuff, yeah. You know the week you're on your period and you're mean to everyone you meet. And then every single person
Starting point is 00:16:16 that you'd ever encountered in that time would be like, oh my God, Rihanna was a cow. Oh my God, Rihanna, I don't like her top. Whatever it is, yeah. I think I'm going to go for Blissfully Ignorant. Me too, babe.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Same as her. You'd read it. I'd have to know. Because also I think like, but this is the same thing. Like now I know he's a snake. Yeah, see, this is the thing. Like would she be better off not knowing this?
Starting point is 00:16:38 It's so hard because journals are tricky. Like that is a space that should be... Sacred and private, if you want to talk about an entire private life. That should be sacred and private if you want to talk about private life that should be private like you kind of everyone like okay you probably wouldn't want your therapy sessions for example transcribed and given back to the people in your life you're talking about no no i'd have no one left do you know what i mean so it's like that is your space to do that and you should in that space be able to as you like to say feel
Starting point is 00:17:05 your full force yeah and sometimes that comes out wrong and i've got people in my life i love and i've said some things about them that i wouldn't need to say to their face because i don't actually think it or believe it it's just in the heat of the moment yeah or if i'm deep in my feels i'm like but i don't think you've ever written i wish she got run over by a car or next time I hope the car hits you. Yeah, that's what I've never wished death. I don't think.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Maybe back in the day when I was like 13 I didn't wish death on anyone. I wish. No, but like not for real. Oh, not...
Starting point is 00:17:38 Listen. Not for real. If someone gave me the knife I'm not using it. I'm just writing it down. Anyway, babe babe the moral of the story is you're not you're not disappointing you have to you have to you're amazing okay yeah fuck him fuck him really and like my strong strong advice would be maybe like reassess
Starting point is 00:18:03 whether he's the right person for you because it kind of sounds like he's not also do you know what i'm gonna say those little niggles at the back of your brain that you think about every time he says something nice every time it's going well or every time you're in an argument they don't go away they get bigger and worse and if you have even an inkling that he's not your person, I'd leave sooner rather than later. That's a great tip. Don't ignore them. They whisper, they whisper, whisper, whisper,
Starting point is 00:18:29 and then they shout at you until you're 27 and single. And if you're younger than 27, do it early doors, babe. Get out now. Till you're a spinster. Don't be waiting around. Don't do it late. We wait because worse. My sell-by date is just, it doesn't go up.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I'm just going off, slowly going off. So if you can leave him at 24, do. And shout out to all the girls who are diagnosed late in life. Yeah, shout out. You have to contend with a lot of things
Starting point is 00:18:57 that nobody really understands. Also, actually, like, it's girls that are, I guess they're just so good at masking. Yeah. And they're so competent yeah like we can just do stuff that men can't do yeah whereas actually like you're fighting a world of pain like all those years waiting yeah so lots of love to you honey we basically just told you
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Starting point is 00:20:42 but if you've got a story that you think, girls need to hear this, then get voice noting. Hi, girls. Just wanted to leave a message from America. I haven't heard a lot of American girls call in. But this is kind of a story about America, I guess, and our politics and our love and relationships. So I hope you like it. Myself and my best friend both work full-time jobs in politics. That's how we met. We've always worked for Democrats, which are sort of the equivalent of y'all's labor party, I'm pretty sure. And it's hard work.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Sometimes it's like 12 to 16 hour days during a big election, but it's very fulfilling and we enjoy it. So she starts her new job back in April and she starts dating this new guy around the exact same time. And they've been together since. And she is so happy and I'm so happy for her because she's just like, I don't know, she's been through a lot with the men. And he seems great. Everything's progressed pretty quickly, but still everything's healthy and good. I haven't heard anything wrong about him. I've only met him once because we're living in different places right now. But I'm just really, really happy for her. And he seems like a really great fit.
Starting point is 00:21:54 So tell me why. Just a couple nights ago, she texted me and let's me know that he told her that he won't be voting for our candidate for president this year, which it's a huge election. It's really important. And the way our political system works is like he lives in a place where it's very important for him to vote. Like him not voting is, it's not what you want. And it's especially not what you want to hear from the person you love when you're spending like 15 hours a day working to elect somebody as president. So it's really, really devastating. I'm so livid at him because my thing is like, this is obviously a fundamental core value of hers. And he just has been planning this this entire time to not vote this year and didn't tell her. And it pisses me the fuck off
Starting point is 00:22:51 because like, I don't know, like that's just, it's not something to lie about. In my opinion, this is obviously like a very, very crucial thing to her, a very, very important value to her. I can understand that not everybody feels the same way. And there are plenty of people out there who would be comfortable disagreeing politically with their partners and it wouldn't be an issue. But not for somebody who works full
Starting point is 00:23:14 time in it and has built their whole life around it. So I'm pissed at him. I honestly don't know the fate of their relationship right now, but she's really sad and so i am very very angry just some further context she did bring it up with him she confronted him and obviously let him know the implications that voting for one party versus the other could have on a lot of minority groups and he's dug his heels in so he's definitely not voting for anyone. So is he not voting at all? He's voting for Republicans. The dark... The dark side.
Starting point is 00:23:50 The dark side. Sorry. Oh my God. The oompa loompa. I won't go that far. So, oh my God, so she fully brought it up and... Wow, that is...
Starting point is 00:24:01 Again, a lot to unpack. Guys, you really come on i'm just obsessed with the fact that you're from from the states that's blown my tiny mind like what i didn't even know that like you knew who we were obsessed with you and your accent and i want to copy it but i won't obsessed with y with y'alls. Yeah. It's a bit like y'alls when you got babe. When you were like, we've been working
Starting point is 00:24:28 12 to 16 hour days. We both looked at each other and we're like, wouldn't fucking know what that is. Wouldn't know if it hit us in the face. 16 hours at work.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Sorry. This is the thing though, like to work that hard on something, like, I get it babe, that's your, that's running through
Starting point is 00:24:43 your blood. Oh, eat, sleep, breathe. Brave repeat Democrats. That's running through your blood. Oh, eat, sleep, breathe. Brave, repeat Democrats. Kamala Harris. Like, you're like, you're deep. So I can totally understand how for you, it's not just politics.
Starting point is 00:24:54 It's politics, but it's also like your work and your passion and like why you get up every morning and like, what, you disagree with it? All of a sudden? Well, the thing is, it's probably not all of a sudden. Surely, though, how have you not had conversations up to that point where you go,
Starting point is 00:25:10 God, he's a little bit right wing. Okay, I don't want to generalise. The right wing. Yeah. But sometimes, especially the American right wing, sometimes they... I honestly don't know them.
Starting point is 00:25:23 They are good at masking. Oh, they're maskers? Yeah, they're are good at masking. Oh, they're maskers? Yeah, they're very good at masking. And then they say something and you almost think, maybe they were joking. Oh, is it sarcastic? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:33 That abortion comment. Interesting. Yes. Yeah. And then you realise, no, no, they weren't joking. But that might take some time. And you laugh aloud
Starting point is 00:25:41 and they're looking straight faced and you're like, oh, sorry. Yeah. You meant it. The problem is as well, if you've only found that out after you've had feelings for him, time and you laugh aloud and they're looking straight faced and you're like oh sorry yeah you meant it the problem is as well if you've only found that out after you've had feelings for him then you are in a little bit of a pickle because like what what also how do i talk about this without offending anyone my ex is probably gonna offend someone else i'm really gonna offend my boyfriend he gives a shit really my ex and i had very different political opinions.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yes. I was fine with it when those debates were done in a really loving, caring, considerate way. I'm all open to hearing other people's opinions. I find it quite interesting. It will always, I think, come to head when it's either on something that is personal to you and like a political issue that you feel really personally attached to or strongly about or when you think about potentially raising kids yes because i think for us it was fun it was
Starting point is 00:26:40 all a joke over a beer most of the time, debating. Something that you can kind of push away. Yeah, because I don't work in politics, so it's not my everyday. And I can just have a wine and get drunk and shout at you about it, and it's kind of quite funny and fine, until you really start to think about the morals and the values that you would instill in your children if you had them.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Well, this is the question. It's like, how important are shared values in a relationship? Because I would argue they are in the top five things of importance. Yeah. What are you and Raw like? Do you disagree on anything?
Starting point is 00:27:12 Oh, yeah. Oh, hell yeah. I think... How often to have sex, mainly. But other than that... And the dishwasher stacking. That's a big one. That's a big one.
Starting point is 00:27:26 That's in our top two arguments actually um we do have differing opinions but i think not like that polar right like they're not that different yeah yeah yeah raw does have quite like i mean very strong opinions on some things yeah he doesn't often sit on the fence no but trying to think of an example that's not like wildly inappropriate. To out him for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? But it's not stuff that like,
Starting point is 00:27:51 He's not out with his Make America Great again, huh? Don't worry about it. He's not Make America Great anyway. Do you know what I mean? Like, he might have like, Rory's very good at like, seeing the other side of the fence,
Starting point is 00:28:01 which I'm not good at. If it's healthy debate, it gets me going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, fine at. If it's healthy debate, it gets me going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, fine, but if it's like... But if you drill down into what do you actually
Starting point is 00:28:09 believe as a person, like, we would agree on most stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I really don't think that you can be with someone who, for example, believes in abortion banning.
Starting point is 00:28:23 If you... And you're going to have a daughter and what happens? And like, if you, what, and you're going to have a daughter and what happens? And like, do you know what I mean? I just don't think that it's a path
Starting point is 00:28:29 that you can really tread, like there's no careful about it. Sounds to me like this girl is going to have to leave him, right? Like they're not going to stay together, surely. How's she getting to work in the morning?
Starting point is 00:28:37 I'll be embarrassed. Do you think if you met someone, I'll be embarrassed. If you met someone, Yeah. who is a bit different in the UK, like a bit, because it's not so polarising a bit a little bit because we can be a bit more wishy-washy with our views like centrist about everything yes if you met someone now who
Starting point is 00:28:54 had like really different political opinions to you like kind of the same vibe would that be a deal breaker for you yeah yeah it would be of course it would be. Of course it would be. Thing is, like, I wouldn't, like, label it as, like, political opinions because I actually wouldn't say, I mean, everyone's political. Obviously, you have a vote and you use it.
Starting point is 00:29:11 But, like, I... Actually, I think it's a stupid thing to say. I am political. I think everyone should be. And, yeah, I think I couldn't... It stops you sleeping well at night, that shit. It actually does.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Like, those fundamental things that you can argue over and and you can always understand someone else's opinion and like where they came from but at the end of the day you just think i don't get it there's also a different if you're okay so like if he's someone that you can have a debate with and like you can talk him around and he can understand like it's not like hard and fast that's it it's when it's hard and fast no you're wrong and also they like diminish your opinion because they think theirs is so much stronger that's impossible to be with also do you know what i found or find not just about my ex but in general when you no defamation
Starting point is 00:30:02 no defamation to his personality because whatever but um when you have a certain mindset viewpoint political stance you tend to surround yourself
Starting point is 00:30:12 with people that are similar and I have loads of friends that are way like further like left than me
Starting point is 00:30:19 for example that I know bringing like a yeah fascist for example, that I know bringing like a fascist, for example, into the mix. Rihanna's face. In shock.
Starting point is 00:30:32 She dropped the F-bomb. But you know what I mean? Like if I were to date someone that was like severely like this guy might be, it's like my friends aren't going to get him and that's not nice. Like everyone's just like constantly disagreeing. I have a space for really healthy debate i think it's really important but i think there's some things you probably need to agree on that person you can have that debate with someone in the pub but you do it over a drink
Starting point is 00:30:56 you don't need to be doing that at home you can't be sucking their dink when you can't be sucking their dink while they're talking about banning abortion it's madness do you know what I mean you actually can't yeah pop in my pill every day religiously fucking twat
Starting point is 00:31:10 horrible it's just too much she must leave him the irony is they'll get she'll get pregnant and he'll go no I don't want a baby
Starting point is 00:31:19 you've got to get rid of it oh always the effing way yeah yeah yeah yeah you best believe. We're going to do question of the week now. Interesting conversation,
Starting point is 00:31:28 really interesting. Really interesting and also two voice notes that were very good and very juicy and we're so proud of you. The voice notes are getting really good.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Sorry, can I just ask like from politics to nails, babe, do you ever find that your nails, like you catch them when they're this long
Starting point is 00:31:43 and they feel a bit like sore I feel like they might snap off at any minute they're so long because you need to have the biab fresh like after a while
Starting point is 00:31:54 it does get a bit like yeah a bit brittle yeah okay you need to ask for G her name's G oh yeah I've had her before she's very very good the one with the four hearts
Starting point is 00:32:03 yeah yeah yeah are you guys still doing biop? Yeah, baby. Yeah, what do you mean still? Have you not seen the TikTok about the fact that we're literally hoodwinked? Stop it, because it's not real. It's not real. It's just gel.
Starting point is 00:32:13 And it's actually really bad for your nails. Don't say it. I don't want to hear it. I'm a through and through gel girl. Also, your nails are amazing. Very strong and very long. And I used to have very weak nails. Strong and long.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Weak nails. Mindful and demure. Strong and long. Very cutesy very long. And I used to have very weak nails. Strong and long. Weak nails. Mindful and demure. Strong and long. Very cutesy. Okay. Question of the week. Question of the week. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Richard, play the jingle now. Question of the week. How long do you wait until you introduce someone to your parents? Sorry, the options. Oh, let me answer. The options were straight away or six months plus. I reckon you could have gotten three months plus because six months is long.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Three months for some people, like as in if you just started dating, you're not even really boyfriend and girlfriend by three months. So I thought six months, you're safe in boyfriend and girlfriend territory. True. I would go straight away because it doesn't really bother me.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I quite like my parents to like get a gauge. You know, some people are like, no, I'm really careful with who I like introduce to the family. Like I would take my time,
Starting point is 00:33:12 la la la. That's not me. I'm straight in. Rihanna? I don't have an answer because I don't get into relationships. Because she likes toxic people.
Starting point is 00:33:22 They like me. Clearly not. I'm a toxic magnet is what she's trying to say They like me. Clearly not. I'm a toxic magnet, is what she's trying to say. She is. Okay, what do you think people voted? I reckon people voted six months plus. Yeah, 75% evil. Is it?
Starting point is 00:33:34 Guys, I think six months a bit much. I don't know, babe, because I don't know. I don't know, babe. Take me a minute. Six months. I've got, sorry, I could be in and out in six months. What are you going to say? I've got things in my fridge a minute six months I've got sorry I could be in and out in six months I've got things
Starting point is 00:33:47 in my fridge older than six months I do you do huh like what parmesan babe
Starting point is 00:33:54 like everything garden there's chocolate in her fridge from last Christmas it's actually a really depressing place to be
Starting point is 00:34:01 it's like a graveyard for food it's really sad where food goes to die. It is. It is. It is where gusto packets go to die. There's a packet of tomato puree in there
Starting point is 00:34:10 that I reckon has been in there since the day we moved in in 2021. Like, I'm not even joking. I just... Sorry. How long did it take you to introduce Raw? Raw and I... I bet it was longer than six months.
Starting point is 00:34:20 It was really quite far. Babe, we were boyfriend-girlfriend after meeting three times. Sweet. I mean, we were just just so stupid then i didn't know what the hell we were thinking but well you were long distance you had to lock him in what he'd be doing when you were away he could be out snogging geordies all night absolutely not having any of it people used to make fun of us being like you literally make each other three times and like now you're what boyfriend girlfriend weird weirdos weirdos no we were quite fast I would say
Starting point is 00:34:47 oh we started going out in February and I think like Easter holidays we met each other's parents so like what two three months really
Starting point is 00:34:55 I love it friends as well get them in get them involved friends is different because like friends are friends well it depends how you see your parents
Starting point is 00:35:03 like what kind of authority figure are we seeing? Like I don't really, I'm not really seeing, sorry, love you mum and dad. They're not really like, not looking for your respect. Like if you don't like the man I'm with, then that's on you.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Especially now. I'm dating him, not you. Especially now. Yeah, like that doesn't, I would take your opinion on board. Thank you so much for your kind words, but I'm not going to like, whereas I know some people have that with their parents,
Starting point is 00:35:25 where it'd be like, my dad doesn't like you, then you're out. Yeah. Have you watched Love is Blind? Yes. Have you seen how the parents were reacting? Yeah, yeah. Jasmine's mum.
Starting point is 00:35:34 So intense. So intense. Understandable, but intense. Yeah, she's actually got a lot of hate online, and Jasmine had to like speak out and be like, my mum's amazing, and she just speaks her mind. She's an Asian mama. And she basically said said that because this guy dropped out of uni she said you know it's really
Starting point is 00:35:49 hard to speak to uneducated people bearing in mind he's like a grown man with a job a house like he's good like i mean that's a bit much bless her people who are still together so yeah they're the only like they're married having a good good, good life, happy life. And she was like, love him 110% now. So she's on board. Also, sometimes, you know, like, maybe you have this a bit more when you're younger, but like, if your parents don't like someone,
Starting point is 00:36:14 you're almost like more inclined to prove them wrong. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, no, he's like a great guy. To be fair, I could do with some more opinion from my parents. They're so like, wait until I've gone through three years of heartache and then they'll tell me. Oh, could you not do that?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Would you not tell me before? Oh, don't worry. That you didn't like him? Don't worry. Really? I'll be telling you. One of my exes, I remember I broke up with him
Starting point is 00:36:35 and I said to my dad, I was like, oh, this has happened multiple, multiple times, but I was like, oh, it's, I'm just like, what did you think about him? Like, I just obviously feel quite heartbroken
Starting point is 00:36:44 that we're not together anymore. And my dad was like, never liked him, most arrogant man I've ever met. But you know who told me that two years ago? Do you know what I said? Are you okay?
Starting point is 00:36:53 What are you doing? Not that I'd have done anything about it, but it would have been good to know. No. It rings true in the back of your mind somewhere. That is not true. That is not true.
Starting point is 00:37:01 And especially you, babe. Sometimes you say something to her and she's like meh meh meh and then like three months later she'll come around and say oh yeah actually
Starting point is 00:37:10 so I don't actually think that's true three months it takes me three months to listen to what I've been told true story true story
Starting point is 00:37:18 three to six three to six working months should we do a recap? gorgeous we normally do the recap four questions a week but we're out of practice and we don't know what we're doing anymore okay six working months. Should we do a recap? Gorgeous. We normally do the recap before Christmas week, but we're out of practice and we don't know
Starting point is 00:37:27 what we're doing anymore. Okay, number one. Oh, these are brilliant voice notes. I want to say once again, two stars of the week this week. I'd give everyone a star of the week. Rich, by the way,
Starting point is 00:37:40 everyone's been commenting on the YouTube how much they love your graphics. So we just want to say thank you so much. We love you. Okayis number one half bitch half um sorry also rich because your meter's gonna be through the roof on this app so sorry and sorry mom um listen put put that in your linkedin bio um you might attract some people with a sense of humour. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Like, you could say, on a bad day, I'm half bitch, half c**t. My ex-boyfriend says... Oh, ex, is he now? I've dumped him for you. He should be. Why don't you just play him this? Right, get it on now, babe. Get him in the room.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Get it on. And we're just going to say to him, listen up, you f*****g little piece of s**t. We're going to say, you've got a lot of groveling to do if you're gonna have this amazing woman in your life you can't just get away with saying shit like that i also would say maybe you need to go to therapy because i feel like the journal's not quite hitting the spot if you're writing yeah i wish you got run over by a car i think you do need to see a professional you actually might need help and your mental health
Starting point is 00:38:43 might have been in the pits but it's actually not an excuse because behaviour is behaviour. Say it again. She's so serious. So serious. Get behaviour is behaviour on a t-shirt. Okay, number two, American Yanis. We love your accent, number one.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I love you so much. And I'm so sorry, you're working for 60... You've got to find a new job, babe. She's passionate, babe. She's bringing the to find a new job babe she's passionate babe and she's bringing the country into a new yeah sorry brat era
Starting point is 00:39:09 okay she's working overtime for the brats so let her work sorry okay after Kamala gets elected you best take a big
Starting point is 00:39:16 long holiday do they give you a holiday babe after the election surely so surely is it like the movies where you're all eating pizza
Starting point is 00:39:24 and shagging each other and having the best time ever? Because have you seen in the movies? Oh yeah. And they're all in those offices and they're so fuelled by like do good
Starting point is 00:39:31 and they're eating pepperoni pizza and they're shagging the guy they're working with and then they're back to work and then they're flyering. Hopefully it is like that. I hope so babe.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I hope you're having a good time. Anyway tell your friend she has to leave him. Yeah, pretty much. Because it's just going to keep cropping up and also she's going to low-key resent him and then she's actually going to fight.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Like, you know the fights you have with the world? Like, you know, like, oh, I can't walk home feeling safe. And then you can, if you get distracted by that, take that out on your male partner, for example. So sometimes you, like, fight a corner that you don't even care about. Yeah, so she's gonna, you're just gonna be
Starting point is 00:40:11 finding every excuse to rip him to shreds because you don't believe in what he believes in. And I just think that's gonna be a recipe for disaster. Life's too short. You know, your relationship should be a place of sanctuary. Find someone in the party, maybe. You know you're safe then. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:26 Do you know what I mean? Find someone that you're working with. Ideally. We don't recommend that, actually, do we? Oh, the Democrat party's pretty big. I reckon you could find someone there. Yeah, maybe from a different state. Yeah, good.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Good. Bit of air. Fair. Okay, team, we must go now. We love you so much. Thank you. Please keep sending in your epic, epic voice notes. Please.
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