Leave A Message with Ally & G - 29 - We're Off To See The Liars & Dirty Cheats Of The World
Episode Date: September 18, 2024Have you ever wanted a specific bag so much that you jump on your podcast and ask your loyal listeners for a discount code? Well, sign us up because if you have the discount code for the Jigsaw Heckfi...eld Suede Tote we want to hear from you! Aside from shopping desires, on this weeks episode of Leave A Message we're telling tales of complex friendships, bizarre love gestures (beans!) and the critical importance of intuition. Along the way, we meet our friends: pathological lying and romantic pursuits! It's a bit The Wizard of Oz, if the yellow brick road was lined with accusations and deceit instead of munchkins. And in our Question of the Week, Ally & G want to know if you have sex on the first date. Want to be a part of the group chat and featured on the pod? Send your voice note to https://wa.me/message/LLWFXNK4YXMHE1 (and please, don’t leave out ANY of the juicy details). NOTICE: Any advice provided in this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute professional advice or guidance; all information, content and materials presented are for entertainment purposes only. Any injury, damage or loss that may result from the consumption of this podcast is at the sole responsibility and risk of the listener. Follow Ally & G Instagram: @allyandg TikTok: @allyandg YouTube: @allyandg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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just we sound so spoiled i want i want but we do want lots of things go on tell the girlies what
you want it's the jigsaw anyone if you're listening and you work at jigsaw you have a discount code
it's the jigsaw Heckfield Suede Tote.
Oh, sexy, sexy, sexy.
I've tried it on in the store and it is so beautiful.
No, no, that is sexy.
Wow.
But it is £195.
So, I don't know.
If anyone's got any ways to help me get that number down to zero,
ideally that would be good.
Because £195.
I'm really trying to not spend money this September.
This September.
Because it's really serious.
Well, also, guys, I hate to say the C word
and don't panic, Richard.
It's not ****.
Christmas is around the corner.
It's really soon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You've got to start stockpiling now.
Well, it's my birthday first.
And then it's Christmas and then it's your birthday.
So there's a lot going on.
What are we doing for your birthday then?
Don't look at me like that.
What are we doing for your birthday? I'm in two at me like that. What are we doing for your birthday?
I'm in two minds.
Why? Because you don't want to be 28?
Haha, sucks to be you.
I don't want to be 28.
Actually, no, I do.
Every year it gets better.
Actually, that is the truth.
That is the God's honest.
It's a bit of a jokey gimmick to be like,
oh, I hate ageing,
but actually I genuinely think every year gets better.
So bring on a new year.
The only thing I don't like about ageing
is that everyone is still younger than you.
Do you know what I mean?
Like people still only age at the rate that they're growing.
It's kind of annoying.
Yeah, like do you hate that we're only 28 together for a month?
Yeah, I mean, ideally I would skip a birthday this year,
but sadly that's not how the world works.
Babe, I'm so excited for you to have a big 30th.
Sorry, that's really fun.
It's going to be fun.
30, flirty and thriving.
I can't wait.
Epic.
I've got a really good feeling about it.
I know we're so far away,
but I do think...
Baby, your muff's falling off.
I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry about me.
Oh my goodness.
I can't believe I'm walking around
with my muff falling off.
You've got a loose muff.
Must not have a loose muff.
Must have a tucked in muff.
Must tuck in my muff.
Hashtag all muffs matter.
All muffs matter.
Do you know what, guys?
I have obviously injured my knee at the moment.
Fucking hell.
Will we ever hear the end of this bloody year?
Babe, it's only been a week and a half
and I've been in the pits.
We haven't had one conversation this week
where she...
That's not true.
Sorry, those leggings are so nice.
Babe, you love them
they're from adenola do you remember and you wanted the gray ones and i then got two different
shades of gray actually yeah yeah yeah 50 shades of gray yeah yeah wardrobe don't worry about it
um yeah i'm injured and i will keep talking about it because i'm my mental health is on the floor
um and i've been swimming because that's the only form of exercise that I'm allowed to do with my broken knee and um I love the women in the changing rooms. Muffs, boobs, everything's out everywhere.
I was wondering what the link was. Muffs and boobs it was. I'm glad we got there. I love it.
I just think wow. Everyone walking around with their muff out. Different shapes and sizes
everywhere. I love it. You forget you forget when you're attached to the Instagram highlight reel.
You go into a changing room you're like oh yeah wow my tits aren't that weird boys do say i don't want
to say which boys hey boys poory pyatt poory pyatt does say yeah i'll reference to what all
boys think yeah go on that all muffs are different and he he always oh all muffs no you couldn't even
put them in an encyclopedia there are too too many different types of maths. Too many maths. Yeah, too many maths.
Too many, many maths.
Too many maths.
As there should be.
Like, maths are amazing.
Sorry, guys.
We just danced to Badadan in the bathroom.
And now we've got some little energy over here.
I would never, for ages,
that's the only way I'd end a spin class.
Badadan, Badadan.
It really makes me feral.
Like, I could lift a lot of weight to that, I reckon.
Babe, we don't actually really eat whilst we're recording.
I don't know what's happened to you and your etiquette.
Sorry about me, everyone.
I was asking you what you're going to do for your birthday.
Oh, yeah.
We're going to do something.
I should get my muff out, probably.
Okay, these are my options, girls.
Let me know what you think.
Number one,
I'll just do like a dinner with the girls.
Next.
Then maybe go for like a boogie.
Next.
Basically what I did last year.
Babe, at my birthday last year,
do you remember how rude you were?
We haven't even spoken about this.
What?
You were on your phone the whole time,
do you remember?
So I'm only inviting you
if you don't bring your phone.
Babe, I literally got up
and danced with you.
No, no, no.
You were scrolling on your phone. You were shopping literally got up and danced with you the first.
You were scrolling
on your phone.
You were shopping
and I remember
I had to say to you,
babe, are you shopping?
I don't remember that.
And also,
why has it taken you
nine months to say that?
Because Ali Mack blacked out
because I only thought
about my birthday now
since the last time.
I think that's fake news
because I was the first one
up there.
Okay, get Holly on the blower.
Ring Holly now
and she'll say,
yeah, you were on your phone
the whole time.
You were shopping. I can't remember what you were looking for and then when, yeah, you were on your phone the whole time. You were shopping.
I can't remember what you were looking for
and then when I showed you,
you were like, oh yeah, sorry.
Oh my God.
Sorry about me.
So rude.
So you're only coming to dinner if you don't do that.
Fine.
Number two, I'm like,
do I just have like a big party and invite everyone?
Not for 28.
Not bothered.
Not bothered.
Do you know what I'd actually really like to do?
Go on.
This is my vibe and I don't know if it exists.
I'd like to be like,
guys, this is where I'm going to be.
If you want to come through, come through.
To everyone.
Risky.
It's a risky biz, but I know a lot of people that have done it recently
and it's quite a vibe if everyone just comes and goes when and as they please
and I just stay getting Mary in a corner somewhere.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
You and Paulie Piot can come.
Yeah.
Or the Oxford lot can come.
Paulie Piot must get the invite. Invite me to his birthday. and Paulie Pyatt can come. Yeah. Or Oxford Lock can come. Forget Paulie Pyatt.
Paulie Pyatt must get the invite. Invite me to his birthday.
For one second, he can come.
Let him come. For like an hour. Until they play Badadam, then he can
go.
Okay, I think either do that or have a dinner
and I'll just not be on my phone. I don't think I was on my phone.
I think that I actually did dance. Text Holly right now.
I actually will.
No, you did dance
for two seconds,
but you...
This is a smear campaign
against my good character.
I will not have it.
No, it was.
I remember being quite shocked.
Once you had your
perfect little dress on,
what happens to Ally Mack?
Let me tell you.
When she gets tired,
you lose her.
Babe, tell me that shit.
When you're tired,
you glaze over and we lose you oh
yeah that is true and that's what happened i was maybe i didn't think i was tired i think it was
hammered no not dinner yeah babe i was about four picantes deep i think i was quite hammered yeah
that happens too when she's drunk babe no hey i didn't say anything on the night because i didn't
care like you do here you've got to do some shopping clearly so get it done one to ten how truthful is it
she's gonna say ten that i was on my phone for dinner the whole of jeans b day last year at
sonico house okay just reminding you all that we were at so we will await the results everybody
wait the results so happy i We'll await the results.
So happy...
No, I think that was fun, though.
I think you should do...
Something similar.
Yeah.
Do you remember everyone, like, bailed and didn't come?
Oh, where?
Monkey House.
Have you ever been to Monkey House?
No.
It is the most fun restaurant.
Babe, do you remember that girl that we met?
On our night...
On our night out in Lucci's.
Yes.
Yeah. That works for PR in restaurants. No,ci's. Yes. Yeah.
That works for PR
in restaurants.
No, different girl.
Yes, I remember her.
I looked her up.
She's got some
good, good restaurants.
Well, can we get her?
I'm thinking,
should we get her on the blower?
Get her on the blower.
Earth Day dinner on the blower.
Good.
Yes, I like it a lot.
PR dinner on the blower
is what I'm thinking.
I like it a lot.
And I'll give you
all the free PR.
I'll talk about your restaurants
till the cows come home
on this pod. You best believe, baby, it will be. I'll talk about your restaurants till the cows come home on this pod.
You best believe, babe,
it will be all over the ground.
Yeah.
Speaking of cows coming home,
how's the Emma bed?
Oh, babe, I've never slept better.
What did we find out?
It's a 7.5.
Comfort.
Okay, so on the scale of 1 to 10,
10 being the firmest, like,
concrete mattress you can get,
and the Emma is a 7.5.
It's got a 7 point um pressure point cooling system
sorry ollie's texting me what did she say sos
how honest should i be i've just said you must say your truth
because i just out of turn she says it's a spirit campaign um i love it i love my emma mattress and genuinely
like i think obviously it was hashtag gifted and i'm so grateful but like i'm sleeping so well and
i do think there's something about the cooling properties of that mattress that is keeping me
at a very good temperature during the evening hollywood cock haha you were you were good then
think you hit a wall at one point and it was game over. Happens to the best of us.
Good.
Okay, fine.
Ov's not on the phone in the club.
It was just dinner.
I was also in the club.
I was in my head.
And I didn't realise until I left.
And you know when you try and walk and you think, I'm fine.
I'm absolutely fine.
Holly, you must speak your truth.
Don't be afraid.
I've spoken my truth.
Good.
So good.
Should we introduce the podcast? Yes. Let's do it, baby. You do it this week. You're better at it than me. I've spoken my truth. Good. So good. Should we introduce the podcast?
Let's do it, baby. You do it this week. You're better at it than me. Okay, this is Leave a Message. Welcome to Leave a Message. I'm Ali and she's G. And together we are Ali and
G. This is the podcast for the galleys by the galleys. Every week we get your voice
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but we're here for the lols and we love your voice notes.
So keep them coming.
And this week, the galleys are called...
Kira.
Kira?
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, great. Good.
Kira number one.
Hit it, sister.
So I'm a little late
for the friendship follow-up episode,
but I did just remember a wild story that
I would love your take on. So a couple of years ago, I was really, really good friends with this
girl. We worked together, we carpooled together. We were friends for like two to three years,
honestly, really, really strong friends. And she had this older brother. Well, she had a couple
older brothers, but one, I'll just name him Bob. And Bob and I were always friendly.
And I knew that he found me attractive because she told me that he found me attractive multiple times.
And every time we'd hang out, he'd ask to hang out with us.
And she was always like very like, yeah, come on, Bob, come hang out with us.
And she would always joke with me that he had a crush on me.
And at the time I was seeing somebody, so it wasn't ever going to happen.
But there was one
day me and my boyfriend had broken up and we went to this party and my friend was saying, oh, Bob's
coming too. He's going to drive us home. And he was going to be the DD. So I was like, okay, great.
And I was very newly single looking for a rebound. And she told me, you should go hook up with my
brother. He has a huge dick. Very strange
to say about your brother, first of all. But anyway, that night, me and her brother end up
just making out, whatever, whatever. She gets super drunk. And when I come back after me and
like disappeared off at this party, we come back and she's like acting very, very drunk.
And I don't remember her getting so drunk, but she was all of a sudden plastered.
Anyway, her brother drives us home, whatever.
And then I tried texting her the next morning, no response.
And basically she doesn't respond to me at all.
She basically ghosts me as a friend.
At this point, we weren't working together anymore either.
So I didn't see her at work.
And yeah, she completely ghosted me.
And I obviously know it's because
I hooked up with her brother
or made out with her brother,
but she told me to.
She pushed me towards it.
So would love your take on
if I was a dick
for hooking up my best friend's brother
or if she was just completely wild
and unhinged.
Let me know.
What the fuck?
There is a part two.
Oh, sorry.
Obsessed.
I thought I would add this anecdote just for Rihanna,
if you're listening.
Rihanna!
So the friend, friend's brother, Bob,
he the next day baked me cookies
and dropped them off on my porch
and texted me saying,
I left you a present outside.
And I was like already like, I regret last night.
And I went to my porch and he baked me cookies,
which was like the strangest
post drunk make out
gift anyone
could ever receive
so I thought
I'd just add that anecdote
because the whole story
is just kind of
a mental fuck
so
anyway
sorry I'm obsessed
with the fact that
she said make out
that's so make out
and also Rihanna
that's like your
like grand gestures
that you're desperate for
that was literally
she must be a great kisser
yeah she's got some
good like tongue lip
action going on,
I'm guessing.
Or like he's just read
the room a bit wrong,
like who's dropping off cookies?
I think that is
epic 10 out of 10.
I'd be over the moon
if I was a bit hungover
and someone left cookies
on my porch.
I think that's a bit weird.
Really?
Yeah, I do.
If they're chocolate chip,
I'm all for it.
I don't think it's weird.
It's a bit too key.
Like maybe the day after,
not the same fucking day.
Oh, it's day after.
They snogged in the evening
and then he dropped off cookies the next day.
Oh, it's a bit weird.
It is a bit weird.
Just drop me a text.
Yeah, but then like, you know,
the bar's so low nowadays
that I think if you're going to be a good guy
and you're going to go for it,
then I'm not embarrassed by you doing cookies.
I like it.
What a weird, weird friend. Sorry sorry so a lot's gone on there because why the hell is she
telling you about the size of her brother's dick how does she know that that is major red flag how
would she know about the size of her adult brother's dick i guess like depending on i love
this question like you know households yeah like some households are really naked and
some are really like no no no no no like never see your family naked ever okay i don't know because
i don't have a like i didn't grow up with brothers yeah i don't know i can't speak on that i don't
know if it's different like i have a naked household but we're all women yeah like it
would be weird for me to sit down and have a wee in front of my mom because like obviously
yeah but i don't know if that translates for boys as well,
or if it is a bit weird when you get to a certain age
for, like, your family to see your dick.
But I would, like, walk in on my dad, like, in the bath.
I think that's the extreme end of the spectrum,
to be honest with you.
Do you?
I mean, I don't...
I don't, like, stare at his dick and, like...
Do you know what I mean?
Like, I don't look at it.
I wouldn't know the size of it,
even though I've, like, seen my dad's penis, technically. Sure, but I'm just saying... Maybe that is weird mean I don't look at it I wouldn't know the size of it even though I've like seen my dad's penis
technically
sure
but I'm just saying
maybe that is weird
I don't know
I'm not making it weird
no it might be weird
it is a bit weird
I'm happy for it to be weird
you're like
like I think
I think it's weird
I think it's weird
I guess it would be weird
if my dad was like
parading himself
in front of me
but like I've walked in
on him in the bath
just because I need to get some bits out of there or whatever and I just don but like I've walked in on him in the bath just because I need
to get some bits
out of there or whatever
and I just don't
like make a song
and dance about it
he's just naked
I don't think most people
are doing that
even naked households
I don't think they're doing that
I don't know though
because I don't know
like do men participate
in the nakedness
of a naked household
I don't know
I have little brothers
yeah but do you see them naked
once they got to a certain age
like maybe
like
an age where I feel like
you would be able to remember,
in 20 years, will you remember me naked?
It was like the doors locked.
You cannot come in whilst you're in the bathroom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I do get that.
But then maybe it was like, you know, like those kids, like little kids sometimes,
like do just like have, you know, big assets.
And maybe it's just a running joke
that her brother's got a big asset.
But you wouldn't use that as a pick-up line on his behalf.
Also, bizarre to pimp him out.
And then...
Hate her for it.
What?
Maybe she fancies him.
That's what I'm thinking.
Have they shagged?
Her own brother.
Maybe she's jealous.
That's a whole separate podcast, babe.
Yeah, is she jealous?
Because there is a bit of a weird thing
about like sisters and brothers and like when...
Is there?
I don't know.
I don't have siblings,
so I'm just guessing what happens.
Like, I don't know.
Like, you know,
like younger sisters can sometimes really like
look up to their older brothers
and like really like put them on a pedestal
and like love the fact that they're kind of like their protector and like la la la that like weird dynamic that might happen
and so then maybe in theory you love the idea of your friend getting with your brother but
then actually in practice it makes you feel really uncomfortable yeah but like there is a level of
self-awareness to be like i'm the person that actually propelled them to do it because i
suggested he had a big dick and wanted it like Like, even if you don't like it,
you have to be, like, sane enough
to be like, oh, yeah, actually,
that was on me.
Yeah, for sure.
I don't know what's gone wrong there,
but as we've said before,
I just think there's plenty of fish in the sea
and even though your friend was egging you on,
don't bother.
No, but how is she to know you can't like when
you're in the moment and your friend's like oh go on like he's got a big dick also that's not
necessarily like oh good gagging for it like sometimes you're not in the mood for a big dick
i'm sorry you know those siblings and i do know some of these people they're like brother and
sister are like almost a bit too close do you know what i mean this is what i'm saying and i just like it's weird like yeah i can tell you now raw and his sister i don't
think jess would be pimping him out she'd be like he's so great because yeah and she's also
definitely not saying like oh he's got a big member like she's not gonna be like a shaft a
shaft you know what i mean she wouldn't be saying that anyway. She's not saying that.
And it's just not appropriate, I suppose,
is what I would say.
So yeah, anyway, babe,
the moral of the story is it's not your fault
and you're not a bad person
because you were just taking instruction.
Also, if she's going to lose a friendship,
like over that,
cry me a river, get out, babe.
Like, you're nothing to do with me anymore.
What the hell is that on my nipple?
Is that strawberry?
That is strawberry.
Oh, I'm gussied about that. It's such messy part it will come out not to worry will it yeah guys i don't have a bra on it feels crazy
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Before we continue with this week's episode of leave a message if you want to be part of our
group chat make sure you leave us a voice note using all the details in the episode description
now this can be about anything obviously sometimes we ask you for specific topics
but if you've got a story that you think girls need to hear this and get voice noting. Kira number two. Yeah. Hi, Gally's got a juicy story for you
guys. So for context, I was like 15. Keep this in mind because of my naivety. It was my first
year in boarding school on it in a different country in Britain, away from home. The adjustment
was hard for me. But a few months later into the school year a very american girl joined the school
and we clicked right away attached to the hip constantly together and everyone would ask where
the other was if we weren't together she told me this story eventually that her dad was the head
of the fbi and that some of the teachers at our school were undercover agents that were making sure she wasn't kidnapped.
She literally told me that she was in danger and made me believe that certain teachers were undercover bodyguards.
Eventually, we began to fight about random ass things.
And like it got really bad to the point where even boarding school staff split us up into separate
rooms as we were sharing a room so little did i know they were trying to save me from a literal
psychopath anyway the fighting continued and she continued to tell me about her life back in the
u.s where she was like part of a fbi group of kids that were in the same situation as her so two of them
were twin boys same age as us at the time uh one of them was dating her and the other i ended up
texting anyway i eventually after two years of friendship almost uh i caught on because while
i was texting that guy she was next to me one night and i looked on her screen
and she was literally texting as him on because it was like a different app that you use so like
it wasn't like a phone number um i freaked out obviously because i had this gut feeling all this
time and of course i was right so she absolutely lost it and told me i was fucking crazy she got very scary
and therefore i believe that she lied about everything she told me so moral of the story
please listen to your gut feeling and stay away from people that give you bad bad vibes even if
it means you have to be alone so much drama love Oh my god, babe, I'm shook for you.
Actually, I'm speechless.
Who, sorry.
I'm fascinated. Did you ever used to watch
Catfish on MTV? She's not really
a catfish, she's just like a pathological liar.
She catfished her because she thinks she's
speaking to a boy and she's the boy.
That is technically catfishing, isn't it?
What would you say?
Catfish.
She's catfishing. Even the what would you say fish she's fishing no but even the thing about the fb sorry i think i missed the beginning so she was saying to her
friend that she was in the fbi no her dad yeah her dad was she was an fbi kid group yeah yeah
yeah yeah which is obviously also a lie yeah because why would you tell someone that what
if you're in the fbi and you're, you wouldn't be telling everyone? Sorry, some people.
I have a similar... It's not a million miles away from this.
Really?
Yeah. It's going to have to be highly anonymous.
Go on then.
When I was 14, in my first year of boarding school,
I was best, best friends with a girl who wasn't in my house.
Let's call her...
No, let's not call her... That's her actual name.
Let's call her...
Babe, are you on crack? Sorry, because I was thinking about her nickname. in my house let's call her no let's not call her that's her actual name let's call her babe
are you sorry because i was thinking about um her nickname i wish it's
let's call her her actual name that'll work let's call her caroline good caroline and i
one in the same house but we became the same friend like friends and she did this weird thing
every day where she had like four or five
best friends and every single day she would tell you what number you were in her list so she would
be like today you're number three or like today you're number one like it was really weird she
was always a bit strange but like that's like mean girl but like it wasn't mean it was like oh like
no because whatever her name is margaret did something really nice for me today so she's
number one
but like yesterday
you were like
so nice
like it was weird
also I was only 14
and I was really
like you're in a new school
and I didn't really
want to rock the boat
anyway
just go along with this
anyway
she comes home
to my house one Sunday
and we're in my room
and she was like
I have to tell you
something that you
cannot tell anyone
this is so secret
you can't tell anyone.
So obviously, she tells me
that two of the members of staff at my school
had, I can't say the word.
Trigger warning.
One of whom was our teacher of a specific subject
and the other one was someone that worked in the building.
Sorry, that's really serious.
And then it basically transpired.
I didn't say anything but like i knew
i had the exact same thing i knew she was lying yeah i didn't know even that is such a horrible
thing to know because do you know what i mean yeah someone tells you something like that you
want to take them at face value yeah but i knew because our teacher that she was accusing was
the like he wouldn't have hurt a fly there was just no way i knew as
soon as she told me i knew she was lying and but i sat with it for like a couple of weeks because
like what are you to do at 14 i didn't know yeah anyway then me and my other friend who was also
on her list of five basically like we were together and we were friends separately and we got onto the
topic and she was like oh my god i don't know what to do we got onto the topic and she was like, oh my God, I don't know what to do.
Caroline told me something and I was like,
oh my God, maybe she told me the same thing.
Anyway, obviously then we both decided to go to the teacher.
The whole thing was a lie.
Did you?
Yeah, we went to our deputy head.
But in the process of like social services getting involved,
like both of those members of staff lost their jobs,
like were suspended.
Our teacher's wife was like two weeks out of going into labour.
The guy who was working in the building,
he was, like,
he was working all these extra shifts on reception
to pay for his wedding in, like, six months.
Like, it was an absolute shit show.
What, and then did she admit she'd lied?
Yeah, because then it, like, got really serious,
and, like, obviously then, like,
people properly, like, police got involved.
Oh, my God.
And she basically sat there and was like, yeah.
But she kept up for a while with the teachers
and then she was like, yeah, basically I lied.
It's all a lie.
But like people are fucked in the head.
That is so bad though,
because me being like classic,
like never wanting to victim blame,
I'd be like, then I'd be taking it so seriously.
I'd be like, how do they,
like they'd need to prove that they didn't. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Because then I'd be like then i'd be taking it so seriously i'd be like how do they like they'd need to prove that they didn't do you know what i mean yeah because then i'd be so worried that
she then just felt like it was too serious and she'd been backed into a corner and she wanted
to say it was a lie i mean i think the teachers were investigate like heavily they must have had
alibis yeah yeah yeah also like when when quizzed on the specific specifics she couldn't tell like
when and where she couldn't say she'd like the whole thing just came crumbling down but it was massive i remember that i didn't even remember the last day i saw her
because she was sectioned she leave the school but like immediately like no one saw her again
like she was put in sand she was put in sand which is like was like on like like where the nurses are
and she had to like sleep in sand for like a week and then she just
no one was allowed to say goodbye like she went to like a good school in london then and now she's
like a really high-powered lawyer or something yeah that's like the worst stuff for her to have
yeah it's sorry surely they've got to make a film about her craziness what the hell she's probably
defending victims now but like it's really hard especially when you're young especially at boarding
school when like you don't know what to do i don't even think i told my parents because like i
you just don't know what to do and like yeah i guess it's so hard i don't know i didn't go to
boarding school but i can imagine you're in like such a bubble yeah yeah you don't really have any
external like opinions or like sounding boards yeah wow lying to me is mad and like listen don't get me wrong
i love a little white lie i love an embellishment on a story like i'm i'm known for it i will do it
all the time i'll make my story better by adding in details yeah but to that level like how are
you not like forgetting what you've said i always think that how are you not forgetting how are you not, like, forgetting what you've said? I always think that. How are you not forgetting? How are you keeping up with yourself?
Is it adrenaline?
Are you looking for some kind of rush?
To the point where it, like, deeply affects someone else's life.
That is fucked.
Yeah.
There's a difference between saying, like,
oh, I don't know, I made £100 more this month than I did.
Like, that's not affecting anyone.
Do you know what I mean?
Yes.
But, like, when it's actually impacting other people,
it's mad.
Like, if this girl
really liked that guy
she'd been texting
and then,
that's such a deceit.
Can you imagine?
No.
Guys, imagine
if I found someone
finally on a dating app
and I thought,
I'm in love.
And it was Al
just because she felt sorry
for me being single and alone.
For lol.
I'd be so hurt.
Obviously.
Because you'd be like,
you're a sicko.
You're sick in the head.
The point about intuition
is a good one.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry, I forgot about that.
Because I feel like
we live in a society
where so many things
bombard us.
Information, news,
other people's opinions,
social media.
You've always got
like other noise,
but actually going inwards
and listening
to your own intuition
is so important
and energy
I always say this
about you can tell
someone's off
immediately
your energy's off
immediately you can tell
if someone has bad energy
get rid of them
oh you always know
when someone's lying
don't you
you think
you're lying
yeah
I know you are
yeah
you little snake
all the girls at school who lied.
I hope they get the help that they deserve.
Amen, amen.
It was like a plague at some point.
I was one of them.
Do you know I once lied about having a middle name?
I don't have a middle name.
That's not like a really, yeah.
I'd just like to confess to everyone
that I told my middle name was Florence
or whatever I chose.
It's not true.
That's fascinating.
Why would you lie about that?
I was so left out that everyone had middle names and I didn't. So I was like, yeah, my middle name's fascinating. Why would you lie about that? I was so left out that everyone had middle names
and I didn't.
So I was like,
yeah, my middle name's Florence.
Oh, we all did that.
Like, oh yeah,
I kissed a boy this weekend.
I did when I sat at home
with my parents and watched TV.
Yeah, yeah.
It was pounding all night long.
Yeah.
What?
Sorry.
Kiera, number three.
Hi, girls.
Love the podcast.
I have so many stories to share
and I've been doing it for ages. So I finally got mad to telling the story of me love the podcast. I have so many stories to share and I've been doing it for ages.
So I finally got mad telling the story
of me and the beans.
So I was at uni in my single girl era
having the time of my life
and I was out one night with my friends
and this guy comes up to me
and tries to speak to me.
I look at this guy,
I literally looked him up and down.
I turned around and carried on
talking to my friends,
completely marked him.
I was doing the debrief the next day with my best mates.
Turns out this guy was my best mate's boyfriend's flatmate.
And I had no idea.
Still didn't think twice about it.
I was in no way attracted to this boy.
But my friend was basically like,
oh my God, yeah yeah you completely rejected him
like he has a massive crush on you he just he was spending all night trying to plug up the
call he's trying to speak to you and then he did and obviously I just shut him down and I was like
whatever that's funny didn't think twice because obviously did not was not attracted to the boy
a couple of days later I wake up go to my kitchen and a card has been posted through my kitchen
window it was like close to Valentine's Day so this card was like a Valentine's Day card
and it basically was like um had like a soppy Valentine's Day message in it and then it was
like um I owe you a drink um from Dylan like and then it said like p.s I'm sorry or something like
that and I was like okay that's weird not going to think anything of it though a week passes I wake up Valentine's Day
single and alone go out in the morning to walk to my car out of my suit and combination
I get to my car get in the car put my windscreen wipers on and then suddenly this like
muck starts like spreading all over my windscreen I get out I don't know how I didn't
notice it when I got in my car but my car has loads of beans on it so my car I got beaned basically
um didn't even know that was a thing but basically he just like tipped loads of cans of beans on top
of my car so I'm there in the rain on my own, already depressed and single, scraping these beans off of my car with my bare hands.
Walking back into my flat, my exact bedroom window has also been beamed.
So I was like, what the fuck?
And I was just a bit creeped out that my exact bedroom window had been beamed.
I was asleep whilst the beaming was happening.
And then I actually ended up making a fake invoice for my car wash and I emailed him a pdf
of this invoice with my bank details and I made him pay for my car wash so yeah I will attach
some photos of the beans as well for you girls to see um Thanks, and I hope you like the story.
Oh my God, Kira3.
Sorry.
People are okay.
She showed us the pictures.
They are sheet beans.
That is bad, bad, bad boots.
That's not good.
Well, like, what, sorry,
what in the hell are you thinking?
Going round to someone's house and putting a tin of beans on their windscreen.
Like, at what point do you not check yourself
and think, okay, I'm a bit crazy now on valentine's day sorry the soppy valentine's day
message really grosses me out like that is enough to send me off the edge i cannot be dealing with
that oh it's so hard because devil's advocate the beans listen i'm tipped over the edge of the beans
the beans is crazy but the the shooting your shot and then the sending a little like
love note like don't get me wrong it's intense persistence but i think if it was someone she
was attracted to she wouldn't have had the same response and i do think you have to be a tiny bit
mindful of the fact that like you can't justify certain behavior for like one type of man and
then for another be like it's gross.
My mum always says that
like even if you don't like them
like you have to appreciate
the effort that they've gone to
to like at least get your attention.
And you would like that
from someone
who you wanted to look your way.
So I think I'm like
kind of good for him.
I mean,
when do you take no as an answer?
She didn't reply to that card.
I would then say walk away.
The beans is then like vandalism.
Like that's then like,
you're not getting affection there, babe.
That's not baking cookies and dropping them off.
That's bad vibes.
The faking voice.
Listen, if you've got to get him back,
you've got to get him back.
Do you know what I mean?
As you should.
Very creative, by the way.
I wouldn't have thought of that.
It's amazing.
And also as he should pay for that.
Oh yeah.
That's crazy. That's't have thought of that. It's amazing. And also, as he should pay for that. Oh, yeah.
That's crazy.
That's a direct expense on him.
Because that's wild.
And I saw the beans.
They got right in the grills of the windscreen.
Can't believe that.
I really can't believe that.
I don't think I've ever had
anyone try for my love that hard.
Let me just think.
Don't get me started.
Rahana, considering that's what you're seeking out.
Rahana, considering how attractive you are
and how charismatic and how brilliant,
you must have had one story similar.
No, what?
No love notes.
No.
Yeah, I've had some love notes in my day.
No, like a real love note.
When you're in a relationship, yeah.
Yeah.
No, can I tell you my best love note?
Please.
Oh my God.
So his name's Parley Pinton.
As you know, I lost my virginity to him.
Love you, miss you.
He, okay, this is actually a really bad story.
So we went out when we were like young,
lost my virginity to him.
I think it was his virginity too.
It was a
lovely time anyway we broke up i don't really know what happened he then kind of like got in a habit
of like dating my friends i remember this not like close friends but like was there was the
fay there fay didn't sleep with him i hope why did i feel like oh my god we must ring her i don't
think there's someone else that you got there first with and then faye got there with oh yeah pam pooper oh sorry yeah yeah yeah party pinton sorry i've got my pam then my party's wrong yeah yeah
yeah no this is probably pinton you and i with two girls that i was quite close with anyway one of
them he went out with for quite a while we subsequently were no longer friends because
i found that quite like backstabbing. Anyway, he was with her at this time
and I'd kind of given an olive branch and invited them to my 18th birthday party because I just
thought, why not? We'll all be friends. Everyone was like dating each other. It was like, whatever.
Anyway, it was my birthday the day before maybe, or maybe it was that day actually.
And I went to the letterbox at my parents' house
just to see if I'd had any birthday cards.
I pull out this letter, handwritten.
From Polly Pinton.
Three pages from Polly Pinton.
Oh, my God.
Kind of confessing his love.
Yeah.
We never spoke about it.
I never said anything to him.
What?
I know, because he was with this girl.
Have you still got it?
Yeah, I think I've got it in my mum's house.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, and we weren't together.
How old were you?
18.
I was turning 18.
Oh, I actually really rate that.
I mean, like...
Do you know what I mean?
You could have kept it to one page.
Do you know what I mean?
I should have been with him.
He put an Instagram reel up the other day
and me and Hans were like,
oh, the one that got away.
If only.
Jess! Yeah, so I have back in my day, me and Hans were like, oh, the one that got away. If only. Yes.
Yes, I have back in my day, but I don't get them anymore.
Oh, I don't, babe.
DMs are dry.
Letterbox is dry.
Same.
Yeah.
The problem is as well in the age of text,
why would you send a letter?
Because it's romantic?
Yeah, even more reason to.
But like, realistically, people don't do it.
No, they don't.
Also, you have got to find,
I guess with her,
like, hindsight,
and if this ever happens
again to you, babe,
because you're obviously,
you know,
a magnet to the men,
you've got to be firmer
with your no, maybe.
The look up and down
was not enough.
Like, he didn't get
the message somehow.
I was just like,
you need to let him
get the message now.
You need to make sure
he gets the message.
What would you say?
I would just say
I really appreciate,
well,
apart from the beans,
I appreciate the effort
that you've made
to,
like,
catch my attention.
But, like,
I'm just not interested,
basically.
I'm not interested,
actually,
is, like,
quite good.
Because it's like,
I'm not interested.
I don't think you're a bad person.
I don't even necessarily
actively not fancy you.
I'm just not interested.
Yeah.
And I don't owe you
an explanation as to why.
Well, actually,
I think you do owe them
an explanation.
If you're trying to make it
firm and clear,
you have to give them,
like, you have to say.
I don't think you can just say,
like, see you later, loser.
You're too short.
Yeah, it's really short.
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
And I've actually just decided
that I've had my gay awakening.
And that's it, really. I would prefer not to have beans all over my windscreen, ideally. Do you know what I mean? And I've actually just decided that I've had my gay awakening. And that's it, really.
I prefer not to have beans
all over my windscreen, ideally.
Do you know what I mean?
The amount of times,
when we were in Bali, right,
that we would, like,
get approached by these boys,
these little Aussie boys
that must have been, like,
just out of nappies.
And they, like, this one guy,
we'd been, like, getting,
you know on the nights out
where you're a bit bombarded?
And it's just for some reason everyone around you wants heat.
They're not even like necessarily attracted to you.
They're just like wanting a lady.
Do you know what I mean?
And anyway, this one guy comes up to us, to me and Holes,
and he's like, oh, I just wanted to check.
You guys are a couple, right?
As if we could say like, oh no, I think it was an in.
I don't think he actually thought we were together.
Maybe he did, I don't know. But obviously my gut reaction is to be like, yes no, I think it was an in. I don't think he actually thought we were together. Maybe he did,
I don't know.
But obviously my gut reaction is to be like,
yes,
yes, we are a couple
because then I'm safe.
Like,
I'm not going to have any more advances from you
because yes,
this is my lady.
So you said yes.
Yeah.
And he said,
I thought so,
you're a really great couple.
Oh,
I see.
And I thought,
thank you.
We are a good couple.
That's good.
But that's quite,
he did it for me.
I didn't even have to lie.
Well,
I did lie because I said, yes, yes, we are. But I suppose in many ways, we are a good couple good but that's quite he did it for me i didn't even have to lie well i did lie because i said yes yes we are but i suppose in many ways we are a couple why not i wasn't
really lying i was just using it to my advantage because i didn't want to be advanced by him
anymore yes i am this is my girlfriend thank you walk away now sir debrief okay debrief Kira number one yep
um
very very strange
situation
you must
um
leave her
to her
yeah you must not
blame yourself
like whatever
you must leave her
to her own
you know
self help
help books
because that's not right
that's just not right
you must leave her
to fancy her own brother
listen
stranger things have happened
stranger things have happened
I'm just saying it.
On this podcast in particular.
Guys,
can I air some grievances?
Sure.
I've had a lot of people
come to me
and tell me that
they've heard some of our
voice note stories before.
Ah!
Yes!
Good, I'm so glad
this has been brought up.
Yeah, I know, Rihanna.
I think we need to air this
in the group.
We must have a board meeting
about this right here right now
I've heard that too
if you're listening
and you're like
yeah lol I did hear that
on one of the whatsapp rounds
or like whatever
guys we want real
genuine voice notes
if you're trying to
pull the wool over our eyes
I don't know
the liver story
the liver story was good
and if
is that the one
I've heard about
the dead dog
and the granny
in the camper van
I've had multiple people
say I've heard those
stories before
on different podcasts I don't know just like on the rounds just like you know like and the granny in the camper van. I've had multiple people say I've heard those stories before.
On different podcasts?
I don't know.
Just like on the rounds.
You know,
like how everyone knows which celebrities cheat on each other.
Like it's not public news.
But you know,
when you just know stuff.
I feel betrayed.
I know.
I felt betrayed
because I'm just like,
this is a serious podcast.
No, no.
I don't feel betrayed
because if they're funny enough,
like I don't really care if they've done the rounds.
Oh, but I guess if...
Listen, if you're saying it with conviction
and you're lying,
then this is why I thought about it
because I was thinking about the pathological liar
in voice note number two
and I was thinking,
actually, we've had some pathological liars on this podcast.
No, but also, sorry, I don't know if you know, babe,
but this podcast is very pioneering in this space.
No one else is doing this.
No one else is giving airtime
to the voice notes that have done the rounds.
No one's doing that.
Yeah, everyone's keeping them in the WhatsApp groups
and we're bringing them out to the masses.
We'll be the people at the helm of the ship.
Okay, but real talk.
Next time you do that,
at the end of your voice note,
if you've done that,
can you say,
BS, this is not my story, trademark.
I've stolen it.
I don't think you need to say that.
Do you not think? No, I don't think so. Al doesn't even care, apparently. I don't care. I just think if it's funny, P.S. This is not my story, trademark. I've stolen it. I don't think you need to say that. Do you not think?
No, I don't think so.
Al doesn't even care, apparently.
I don't care.
I just think if it's funny, it's funny.
If it's funny, it's funny.
But why are you pretending it's your story?
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I do that quite a lot.
I steal your stories quite a lot.
Do you?
Yeah, of course.
What, once?
Like, sometimes, like, I don't know.
Oh, I don't know. I don't know. But sometimes, like, she'll say something funny Like sometimes like, I don't know. Oh,
I don't know.
I don't know,
but sometimes like she'll say something funny
or like,
I'll steal your lines.
Oh,
I steal your,
yeah,
I steal your gags all the time.
Oh my God,
stealing your gags is my favorite thing to do.
I don't have to do any of the thinking for myself.
I have no work.
I just like go to dinner
and I'm hilarious
and I'm like,
Ali Max had five of them earlier,
so don't worry about it. But that's kind of like the recurring voice notes it's fine if you know maybe
it's fine then fine right kira number two um it's not fine that you lied you little rat no she didn't
i saw the friend that your friend lied yeah oh sorry i know i meant your friend you're not the
rat obviously um and all and the takeaway is always trust your gut, listen to your intuition and don't ignore other people's energies.
Oh, listen to that energy.
Number three.
Number three, babe.
I just think, poor you.
And also it is creepy that he knew where your room was.
Poor you that you had to have bean boy
relentlessly trying to get in your pants.
It's so boring.
Must find some bean puns.
Oh, you must get...
Hold on, hold on.
Richard, you'll have to cut this.
Let's pretend that she had it off the cuff.
The best bean puns for family fun.
Oh, this is a good one.
What do you call a retired vegetable?
Has been.
Yeah, good.
Are we doing question of the week?
Have we got time?
We're cutting it a bit fine, but...
I think we can make it work.
Guys, just a disclaimer
Rahana gets told off
by the big boss upstairs
if she runs over to you
we never get
shall I be quick
sex on the first date
yes no biggie
or no I have to wait
a number of dates
I have to wait
no I have
no
I have a number of dates
I have to wait
yeah because some people
you know that
they're like
on my five date rule
my three date rule
this is fascinating
um
have you seen it
I obviously think
yeah I know
she's gonna say yes
sex on the first date
I don't have a number of dates
but I wouldn't have sex
on the first date
yeah as a rule
you wouldn't
I wouldn't either
as a rule
I probably would
like just as a rule
I think it's gonna be like pretty close it's exactly 50 no yeah 512 512 oh that makes me
feel really happy because i always feel like a bit of a listen no judgment like no seriously i do mean
that i just want to try before i buy the only thing I would say is that don't,
not for you, but just like in general.
She's pointing this at me, go on.
Don't do it because you're bored.
Yeah, number one reason.
Go on, what's the second reason?
You feel like you have to to know more about them.
Also quite like that as a strategy, yeah.
Or any other reason that isn't coming from a place of pure
fancy lust yeah because i think otherwise the aftermath is more difficult to like unpick
do you know what i mean because like if you really fancy them and then you have sex with them on the
first date maybe there's like a spark for somewhere to go but if you only did it because you were bored or like whatever for whatever other reason
like huh yeah yeah but then sometimes it does i'm happy to be told wrong sometimes it gives clarity
i haven't had sex in a long fucking time sometimes it gives clarity and sometimes sex isn't as
confusing as we make it sometimes it is don get me wrong. Sometimes it complicates the situation.
Sometimes it doesn't.
Sometimes it tells you more
of what you needed to know.
The other thing is,
and I know, I don't,
I mean, obviously I'm not dating,
but like I know that I'm someone
that like really gets in so deeply
with my emotions so quickly.
Yeah.
So if you are that kind of person,
I also would suggest not doing it because you're just going to get heartbroken every time. Yeah. So if you are that kind of person, I also would suggest not doing it
because you're just going to get heartbroken every time.
Yeah.
The only myth on this,
I think all of that can and can't be true,
what you've just said.
Like, I think both in all situations,
depending on the person.
The only myth I would like to debunk
is that they like...
You best debunk some myths.
Sorry, I'm a myth buster.
Debunking.
I'm so tired.
The only myth I would really like to debunk
is that there's some kind of worry
that they won't fancy you or take you seriously
if you shag them on the first date.
And I think that's some people's reserve,
is that like, oh, if I give it away too easily,
and I just would love to get rid of that
because I don't necessarily think that's always the truth.
I don't think it's about that but I think if you're
feeling like, oh, I'm not sure.
It's not always... Let's make
it sure! Show me the size of your dick!
No, but if you're like, go on.
I was going to say, it's not always true
but I think this percentage of men
who don't care is smaller than the percentage
of men who do care.
Yeah, potentially. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do all men care
if you give it away early?
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, I think there's a few nuggets
in there who are like,
doesn't matter.
But then there's a majority
who are like,
this is just what I wanted
in the first place.
Yeah.
And you don't want to feel used.
You don't want to feel used.
But also,
let's find out
where the wolves are
amongst the sheep.
How are you to know, babe, after a couple of drinks?
You're not to know.
I always know.
I ignore it, but I know.
I always know.
And 50-50, girls.
Sometimes I get it right, sometimes I get it wrong.
No, no, listen.
I did it too.
Like, I was in there straight away with like, oh, straight.
Sometimes you've got a scratch to itch and you just think, oh, go on then.
Yeah.
But yeah, also your body is sacred. sometimes you've got a scratch to it and you just think oh go on then but yeah also
your body is sacred
and
and don't just do it
because like you
just like oh whatever
it's kind of like
it can be whatever
but like if you're like
oh no but like
but this is the thing
also don't like
convince yourself
that you should also
like if you also have
a strong feeling
not to
walk away honey
let's not have the same rule
that you always shag them
on the first date.
And if you want to scratch that itch,
just find one person
who's dedicated to that one act.
Oh, she's really in there
for the friends with benefits, Rahana.
I'm a big fan of friends with benefits.
If you've got any friends
that will benefit me, babe,
send them my way.
I just think they're hard to find.
Do you know what I mean?
Just find them on Hinge.
It's not so easy.
You've got to fucking have a drink and la, la, la. Oh, la, la, la. You've got to, like, you know what I mean? Just find them on Hinge. It's not so easy. You've got to fucking have a drink
and la, la, la.
Oh, la, la, la.
You've got to like, you know,
find out if they're good at fingering.
That's the main thing.
You've got to ask them what their dog's name is.
It's too far.
It's too long.
Boring.
Get down to it, Darren, would you?
Don't care about your mum's maiden name.
I've got an itch to scratch.
Okay, peeps, you must subscribe.
Peeps!
Gallies, you must subscribe.
You must.
Okay, you actually must.
And if you didn't hear the call to action last week,
let me repeat it for you now.
We had a meeting and the main takeaway was
we must have more subscribers.
So if you could get subscribing
that would be great
ideally on Spotify
because no one
listens to us
on Apple apparently
much lower
much lower
but still an important
part of our community
yeah sure
Apple
no defamation
no defamation
Apple
not all podcast platforms
thank you so much
for listening
we will see you next week
please keep your voice notes
coming and
love you
bye