Leave A Message with Ally & G - 30 - Get Off Me! When Shenanigans Go Too Far

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

This episode of Leave A Message contains descriptions of harassment and scenes which some listeners might find uncomfortable. Listener discretion is advised. What happens when shenanigans become a problem? Well Gallies, this weeks episode of Leave A Message contains all of the usual hijinks - but with some added life lessons... more so than usual. After navigating the usual barrage of celebrity gossip, Ally & G are tackling how to handle complex and uncomfortable experiences. From the nuances of maintaining boundaries in friendships to staying away from unrequited advances and handling toxic behaviour from friends... if you thought your friendship group had issues, check out this lot! Plus, Ally & G explore what to do if you ever need to tackle rumours with your friends... Want to be a part of the group chat and featured on the pod? Send your voice note to https://wa.me/message/LLWFXNK4YXMHE1 (and please, don’t leave out ANY of the juicy details). NOTICE: Any advice provided in this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute professional advice or guidance; all information, content and materials presented are for entertainment purposes only. Any injury, damage or loss that may result from the consumption of this podcast is at the sole responsibility and risk of the listener. Follow Ally & G Instagram: @allyandg TikTok: @allyandg YouTube: @allyandg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode contains descriptions of harassment and scenes which some listeners might find uncomfortable. So listener discretion is advised. I think I did know that actually and then he was with Jessie Nelson Katie yeah yeah and now Katie they've just woken up I've just read yesterday and Chris Hughes is with the golfer

and Katie Price is with JJ from Married at First Sight sorry JJ Married at First Sight and Ella Married at First Sight First Circle is now on

Selective Dating and I actually think she's coming across very well I'm liking her a lot. I think she's a good time girl. Yeah, you find her a bit annoying. I just find her like, like, why try so hard?

Yeah, yeah, she does try hard, but I resonate with that. I just think, oh, God loves a try. I just think, oh, she was probably bullied as a kid, and now she's just overcompensating. It's very important to stay abreast of this highly important celebrity news.

It is very important. You must be in the know. Adam Collard and Laura Woods, they just got engaged. Adam Collard. Babe, sorry, you must get in the zeitgeist.

Get on TikTok. Sorry. I am. I was going to say, Rihanna's more in the zeitgeist than we are. We're like in the like, like Adam Collard's old news,

really. Yeah, to be fair. Do you know what I mean? So is Laura Woods. She's just like, yeah, she's not like, I didn't even know who she was. Laura Woods is a massive Sky Sports presenter. Huge.

Get with it, girls. With the short hair. No, long hair. To be fair, today we are actually talking about, not really dating, but things I guess that can happen on dates. We're talking about like grey areas, largely, in today's pod episode, which is one of my favourite topics of conversation. Helen Flanagan in a grey area, not very grey anymore. So everything ties back, guys.

She was a little bit grey for a minute, I guess, while she was dating other people, but had a boyfriend probably just for the paycheck. But I mean, to be fair, who wouldn't? I wouldn't say no to 70 grand. No, but it's not right. Like the whole thing is like, oh babe, listen, they're not going on

like relationship boot camp. It is a show called that Rob Beckett narrates. I know, but I do just think like, it's enough anyway, but you might as well make sure the celebs

are at least single. Yeah, ideally. Do you know what I mean? I'm just a bit like, can we? Ideally, yes,

they would be single, I agree. I just think she made a mockery of it I'm cross with Helen I think it's rude baby let's take that

out with our boyfriend he loves Helen Flanagan does he oh yeah he said we went on a date on Friday double date me, Holly, Al, Roar

and he was like were we talking about celeb crushes oh no we were just talking about celeb dating and he was like Helen Flanagan's chubs

have you seen her chubs no at first he said oh Helen Flanagan's just so fit Have you seen her chebs? No, at first he said, oh, Helen Flanagan's just so fit. And I was like, is she fit or has she got good tits? Oh, yeah. And he was like, yeah, I mean,

she's got nice chebs. And I was like, brilliant. Does he actually use the word chebs? Yes, babe. It's a bit of a turn off, isn't it, the word chebs? Al quite likes it.

I don't mind it. I just think like, fine, I call your dick. Like, I don't know. What do you call it? No, not your dick, but like, we just, you i don't know what do you call it no not not your day but like we just you know what do you call rory's dick come on you wee wee your bp we have to cut this do you call it bb do you if we're like oh yeah bb dutch i remember now

if we're like having a lol only like obviously like you know in the nitty-gritty of like you know the throes of love i wouldn't start calling it his peepee maybe he calls it his peepee i like peepee a lot and yours could be what would you call it fee fee what would you call a man's willy? Cock. Sorry. Cock. For being sexy. Cock and balls.

Oh, the and balls actually tips me over the edge. Cock and balls is horrible, isn't it? Gross. That sounds like a pub. Off to the cock and ball. I was just going to say cock and ball. The cock and ball. Anyway, welcome in, guys. If you haven't already turned off,

this is Leave a Message. This is a podcast for the galleys by the galleys. We love getting your voice notes. Please keep them coming. Rohana loves getting them when they're short, so keep them short. And this week, the galleys are called... They'd best be called Lauren.

Lauren. Really good. They'd best be Lauren. Lauren. They'd best be called Lauren. Lauren. Really good. They'd best be Lauren. Lauren. They'd best be Lauren as an homage to Lauren Goodman who we don't rate

as a girl's girl. As a girl's girl. Sorry. If she voice noted in with that dilemma like, ah, but he's married

and I'd just be like, your fault. Your bed. Yeah. Lie in it. Don't wear KW around your neck. I know.

That is really unfortunate. I was thinking about that. I think it's cringe't wear KW around your neck. I know, that is really unfortunate. I was thinking about that. I think it's cringe. You look like a fool. Going on a date with her, even if you didn't know, she's basically got her ex's name

around her neck. And I know it's not for her ex, I know it's for her kids. But you know, when you're just like, what's the need in that? I'm not finding that

a turn on. I'm now thinking about Kyle Walker, the footballer. I already feel a little bit, like, you know, emasculated by the fact that your ex is Kyle Walker. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Anyway.

Disgusting. Disgusting. Lauren, come to us for dating advice in the future. Should we go straight in then? Lauren, number one, rack it up. Hi, Ellie and G. So, this story is about a night I would much rather forget. And every time someone brings up to me,

I would rather curl up in a pool and die than relive the story. But oh well, here we go. So about a year ago, I went up with my dad and my stepmom to visit a family friend. And keep in mind, we've been friends with this couple and their sons since I was four years old. Keep in mind, I'm 17. And now their youngest is the same age as me, another guy. And so they are like, oh, we're going to go to this concert

of this band that's being revived after being apart for however long since they were in their their 20s so they went to that and now i'd always found let's call him henry henry i've always found henry incredibly attractive but i never did anything because he's the straightest straight boy you'd ever fucking meet um but anyway so we walked down to the shop he's asking me all these questions about like my old relationships and like the guys i used to be with and like how I used to be with them and I thought oh okay that's fine yeah good yeah like asking me all the questions and then basically he goes oh well let's play truth or dare um on the way back and out at the house we're having dinner and then he starts asking me more more questions about like

sexual things like what we did who I did it with that sort of thing and then he asks oh John play like hide-and-seek like we used to when we saw each other and I was like okay and so he put all the lights out and he went and he went and hid in his bed so I go up and obviously I'm like oh I found you you ha ha ha ha ha and then basically he stays in his bed and then his next question to me is and I I kid you not, the words, I want you to seduce me like you did the other guy. And I'm like, okay. So I sort of thought about it and went, you know what?

Fine. Yeah, I will leave space for the imagination. And then the next morning we wake up not a single word not a single word nothing hid in his room using the excuse of studying for GCSEs which yeah fair but then about a month ago he adds me back on snapchat and he's messing with me like oh yeah sorry I didn't add you I was trying to find you uh but by the way now I have a girlfriend at the same time he's also telling me that he wished he could have found my Instagram earlier and is still asking me questions about did I enjoy it and did I not

and that sort of thing to this day so yeah much rather forget but oh well we move love you both love the pod it's honestly the best thing ever thank you love you babe

goodness me um sorry I just must tell you this please It's honestly the best thing ever. Thank you. Love you, babe. Goodness me. I'm sorry. I just must tell you this. Please. That has reignited a memory in me. So, oh God. Okay. I've got a group of family friends.

Like we all live in the same village. And there's probably like four, five, maybe like six families that would all kind of like interchange and hang out with each other whatever we all grew up together anyway we got through a stage when we were like at that stage you know where you're you're not like sexually active but you're curious so like probably a bit younger than lauren one was i would say maybe like probably too young even i think i might have been like 12 13 do you know what i mean like just like young anyway we got to this stage where everyone was probably a bit like curious randy like i don't

really know and we used to play this game at like our parents would be having like dinner parties it would be late and we'd all like go upstairs to whoever's house like bedroom we were in and we would play this game where we would turn the lights off and you just like have to like move around and then someone would have i can't even remember what the game was but the whole game basically was like when the lights were off anything goes yeah and there was there was this one guy because my mom still hangs out with them a lot but like let's just call him that's his little brother's name oh definitely let's not call him that let's call him sigmund freud sigmund freud was i don't even know that i fancied sigmund

freud or what was happening with sigmund freud every time the lights go off he would like beeline for me and we would like snog Like horrible snogging because we were so young. I don't even know if there was like tongue or it was just dry lip snogging. I know. And then like sometimes people would like

the lights would come back off and like tops would be off. Like it was like wild. That is wild. Wild. But we used to do that all the time and I really resonate with that because...

Do you still see them? Yeah. I see his mum more than him. Sigmund Freud still? I see Sigmund mum more than him. Sigmund Freud still? I see Sigmund Freud less. I see Sigmund Freud's little brother a bit. I see his mum a lot. I see all of them. Like we're all grown up now and we'll still like

see each other every now and again. And there's no way I would have even looked him in the eye outside of that game. Like we wouldn't even, you're teenagers like I wouldn't even really grunt at him. Like there was no chat outside of whatever happened in the city games yeah so i actually don't blame that guy well i kind of do because it's like you can't really use me for your like your gay like awakening and then like yeah i've written here i do think he's sexually confused and that's

actually got nothing to do like it's not about you I know it feels really personal but like he's just going sadly you were just like collateral to his gay awakening that's the thing you were used as like his training wheels and that's a bit like get your own do you know what I mean

you can't put me on a stabilizers and then just take me off when you've decided actually I just want a girlfriend because it's easier yeah that's horrible that's horrible that really is horrible

but sorry also I've written down here snapchat toxic I just want a girlfriend because it's easier. That's horrible. That's horrible. That really is horrible. But, sorry, also, I've written down here, Snapchat toxic. Like, so many of these stories. Say it again. Say it again. Oh my God. You must get off Snapchat

and re-download, I don't know, like iMessage. It's much safer. I don't know what everyone's doing on Snapchat. There's a lot of extracurricular activity

on Snapchat, I would say. A lot going on. Well, it was like, do you remember MSN? Yeah. You'd send a few like the difference is msn you had to sit down and connect your fucking computer to the internet to wind it up like snapchat i could just be lying in bed and fucking with you like with and you're you and your mh it's a bit sexy isn't it so i really miss sending a few like dirty pics no but like the way that these kids i mean i don't know anything about snapchat these but like the way that these kids, I mean, I don't know anything about Snapchat these days,

but the way that they use Snapchat is like, it is craziness. It is funny, isn't it? It's funny that he's like able to use Snapchat as a vehicle to like, like it's a bit pervy, isn't it? It's like he wants to perv on you and he's fascinated by you

because you're obviously like out loud, proud, living your life. So he's like almost jealous and almost a bit in love with you. So he's like using Snapchat as like the window to look. Do you know what I mean? Yes, like a shop window. A shop window whilst he's at home with his girlfriend.

Babe, people do that on Instagram too. That's not Snapchat. Not all hashtags, not all ads. Mainly Instagram and Snapchat. Instagram outs you though, doesn't it? You know, when you go on someone's profile and you look at their picture and you think, hmm, you've liked their picture.

Interesting. True. Messages, do they disappear on Instagram? No. No, no, they're there as hard evidence, babe. No, no, honey, that's... You know in Bad Boyfriend? Yeah.

When they get the phones. Oh, I... First place I'm going, direct message Instagram. But also... 100%. I think they must have censored some of them because there's no way every single one of them was clean. There's just no way.

Agreed. Especially with like the behaviour that they were like endorsing. There's just no way. No way. No way. And then it even came up

with a little disclaimer that was like private accounts and I thought, well obviously they're only going to be DMing celebrities. 100%.

Idiots. I don't know. I would say my take home, I have had this not to the same extent with a family friend. Like, you know, when you grow up

with family friends of the opposite sex, obviously you just do, they're like the first people that you're like really allowed to fancy. Also like anything goes, like you're really like

experimenting, you're left alone, that's another thing, you're left alone together all the time and like your parents want you to like just get on

so that you're not in their way but like ideally just don't because it is a bit awkward I guess it depends on the age because like

I'm actually quite grateful for like my training wheels in my like family friends because like there was a lot of like tonsil tennis that happened that I didn't even really need to think about

it was just there ready available it was just a bit of practice it was a buffet at the weekend I won't speak to you at school on Monday you you best believe yeah we wouldn't look at each other do you know what i mean yeah we all actually we all went to the same school in that group it's crazy it was so bad as well because like some of them like you'd be proper mates like the boys now i

can like joke with them like can you believe you ignored me at school but like on the weekend we'd be like best friends like hanging out all sund Sunday lunch you'd get to school they wouldn't look you in the eye I had that a lot look at me I kissed your fucking face off on the weekend I took my top off for you till the lights came back on you prick no you touched a tit nothing you don't ignore me in the math corridor do you you arsehole yeah kids are so good

kids are so good so good teenage years listen it's a lot to handle everyone's horny everyone's confused and no one's got

no one's got a rule book I will like there's no rules and there's no awareness for like other people's feelings like there's none of that you're getting it all wrong and also like i do actually think all of that is just part of life like i think obviously sometimes it can go to an extreme but like some of it's just like funny and you learn like that's not like super funny but like you'll

learn something from that and also we feel sorry for him in that to be honest don't we his like lack of like knowledge of like who he is and like acceptance of himself he needs to really get on grinder why don't you send him a link on snapchat i don't know you'll see him there one day and then you'll be like oh finally you made it welcome to the party you know do you know what i mean yeah make this autumn the tastiest season yet with farm fresh produce and easy autumn inspired recipes delivered right to your door with HelloFresh. Whip up tasty restaurant style meals in your own kitchen without the high price tag of takeout and in less time than it takes to get delivery. Babe, honestly, HelloFresh has saved me so many times and now my in-laws think I can actually cook even though all I've done is followed the recipe and had the ingredients delivered to my door. But babe you are cooking it's absolutely

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but if you've got a story that you think girls need to hear this and get voice noting lauren number two hi girls uh firstly i'm in the car so sorry about the background noise after beauty i moved abroad uh for a master's and was like went out very much i want to make lots of just nice girlfriends and be in my like single happy mid-20s era anyway I met this really nice guy and he kind of restored my faith in like male-female friendships and yeah it's been going really well but always respectful because he had a girlfriend has a girlfriend I started noticing like on nights out he was he wasn't handsy by any standard but like a bit more tactile than he is when he's sober because there was one night where he had friends staying and visiting and they were like oh we'll walk you home it's kind of late it's like five in the morning and don't know

and i like appreciate that a lot anyway we get back and he's like oh if we can't get an uber like can we stay with you boys can go on the sofa and i'll stay in your bed and i was like ah sure didn't really think anything of it like whatever and i was hammered for context hammered capital h anyway um we get back and his friends book an uber and he goes no no just cancel it so i was like oh that's really weird anyway we get into my room and I'm wearing a t-shirt. And he's like, no, don't worry, but would that make you feel more comfortable? And I'm like, oh, I don't really mind too much. Anyway, and then I was like, do you want to sleep top to toe? And he's like, no, I don't really mind.

And I was like, okay, well, whatever. My bed's enormous, so it's chill. And we were lying in bed. And next thing I know, after a bit of chatting, he starts holding my hand. And my hand's just kind of lying there limp. Didn't move it because it just felt really awkward and I was kind of panicking and uh fast forward a bit and we spoon it he well he starts to spoon me and I am doing a reverse bum shuffle if you know what I mean I mean I'm like inverted and uh he keeps putting my hips into him, and I'm listening. Next thing you know, his hands go down my shorts.

I immediately put out. And then he puts my hand down his shorts, and so he was ready for action. There's a bit of movement going on. I'm kind of very, like, I'm a bit woozy, and it's like six o'clock in the morning. It's fucking light outside.

And then, you know, he starts to breathe quite heavily. He's getting a bit overexcited and so I'm like oh this is awful I kind of come to like I'm not passed out but I'm like sleepy and drunk so I kind of realized what's happening and I put my hand away and I was like we can't do this and he was like oh I'm so sorry and I turned over next morning woke up everything was completely normal saw each other once after that and for like this a group thing and we haven't spoken since and he's still with his girlfriend so yeah that's my story

love you love the podcast oh i love you babe wow sorry that actually made me physically cringe that is bad vibes that is really sticky bad vibes so sticky bad bad vibes it's okay i'll tell you what it is it's when you think you're safe and then you're not because also like you with a friend a male or female you shouldn't be in the position where you're at risk of giving signals like that do you know what i mean because like you should feel like your friendliness your even your intimacy is on the understanding that you are friends i've actually written like the only way that i think male female friendships can work is that you're on the same page 24 7 3 6 5 and probably you do keep quite a like significant barrier of intimacy that you're not sharing a bed no like no do you know what i

mean no physically like there has to be a level of boundary it's so hard isn't it because obviously we would share a bed but like oh i'm talking about with male no i am too and i'm like why is it different but it is different it is different it is different because like with your girlfriends you would share a bed as boys would with their mates yeah but for some reason that just doesn't well like obviously that doesn't translate but why is it interesting isn't it okay because if i had a friend who was a lesbian i think if i was in a relationship i would still feel comfortable to sleep in a bed with that girl if she was my friend yeah but your boyfriend might not he might not to be fair don't have one can't ask him but as soon as it's like a man and i'm just throwing it out there hashtag not all men but is it because we kind of suspect that a lot of boys when drunk horny

in a position where you're lying naked next to them might make advantage is whether like where a girl wouldn't do you know what i mean i i would sleep in a bed with my male friend would you with like with the trust that your friends and but what if they started doing that would you freak out this is the thing how are you to know the thing is though i'm from we all know that i don't have the great comprehension the best comprehension skills um but what i'm gauging is that she met him she met him at uni yeah they met when she was doing her masters on a year abroad like new friends yeah i wouldn't do it with a new friend but with all of my male friends at a long term i would 100% would because i know that we wouldn't yeah you've built up through time and time again,

being drunk, being, yeah. Yes. Yeah. That boundary has never been crossed. It's so hard, isn't it? Because, like, by all means, cross a boundary if you're both crossing it together, holding out and skipping over it.

We've kind of glossed over the fact that he is also in a relationship. I know. Like, that is really fucked. That's so bad. What a horrible position to put her in. There is nothing worse. I know. Like, that is really fucked. That's so bad. And what a horrible position to put her in. There is nothing worse. I know that this isn't the takeaway, but 6am and the sun's coming up,

you just think, fuck off. I don't want my hand down your pants or vice versa. I just want to be like asleep and dead to the world. Why bothering me? There is never, there is not a single morning on, like, there's never a good time to have sex. Sorry. And that, my friends is ali max view on intimacy in a relationship there is never a good time to have sex the worst time you could choose is 6 a.m on a fucking after a big fat bender

no one wants to have sex i don't know anyone who's gay how he's had an erection i'll never know also like i don't want to feel your erection like if one of my male friends oh my god like so gross if one of my male friends so weird it just like pokes you in the back and it's just like whoa you would die like if i had to share a bed with one of you two. No, no, no. I actually would just die. I honestly would just set fire to the whole bed and just burn alive. Also, it's horrible, isn't it? Because he burned down a relationship there.

Like, they weren't friends after that. Like, that is so sad. Well, also, then I just think, like, were you... Sorry, hate to plant seeds of doubt in your mind, but, like, were you even friends in the first place or did he just want to get into your pants? So true. So true. Because, like, that's that's you shouldn't that's bad vibes also that's where the time thing comes

into it it's like also we all have those friends well i don't really anymore but like i've definitely had male friends that i'm like i would oh yeah and then i've had friends that i'm like oh i wouldn't like touch them with a barge pole. But those friends that I would, I wouldn't share a bed with them. I would only share a bed if I was like, I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. Or if you felt like you were on the same page and you wanted it to progress to something more, then you might share the bed.

How are you to know? It's a lot of mind reading. I'm not going to lie. This is the problem. It all comes down to communication. Like, that was such an awkward position she was in he clearly wanted to stay with her once the offer was open he even cancelled the uber sorry that's so creepy at that point i would have said i would have like clocked why is he not booking the uber yeah and also it's

top to tail or nothing mate i'm afraid on the sofa for you my friend yeah but she trusted him and that's one of these things that like, we trust our judgment and in the moment you trust them, they mislay that trust. That's really hurtful and it's not really your fault. You just thought

that he was your mate and then suddenly he was putting his hand down your pants. Erection in your whack at six in the morning. Bad, bad vibes. Bad vibes.

Babe, I'm sorry that had to happen to you. What a horrible way to lose a friend. Via hard on. Horrible. Okay, number three. Babe, I'm sorry that had to happen to you. What a horrible way to lose a friend. Via hard-on. Horrible. Okay, number three. Oh, yeah.

Hi, girls. I'd say about halfway through my first year at uni, I was on a night out with all my housemates. And I've always been straight, like never really questioned my sexuality. Like it's never really been something I ever thought of. But I was on a night out and this friend of a friend sort of she came over to me and she was like oh you look really

really nice tonight and I was like oh thank you so do you you know just being polite and then she sort of like followed me around a little bit like danced with me but again didn't really think anything of it like you know how girls go on a night out and um and then she turned to me and she was like oh will you come to the toilet and I was like yeah of course I can be in the support of gal I am went to the toilet and again as girls do went in the cubicle with her she was sat on the toilet like talking I was close to blackout like I was fucked I was so drunk it was bad and I was sort of slumped in the corner of this toilet and um she stood up came and stood in front of me and was like I really really want to kiss you right now

from that point on I don't remember what happened next like I don't know I don't remember getting home I don't remember anything my housemate said I was a state next morning I woke up with like the worst birth of my life I was just like yeah it wasn't good looked at my phone to see a text from her saying nine out of ten kiss would do again so at that point I was like what the fuck ignored it didn't reply to the message and then the following week went out walked into this club she comes running over to me wraps her arms around me and is like oh my god I've missed you so much like hugged her back not really thinking anything of it then she sort of like still had her arms wrapped around me but pulled her face so we were like really close and she went are you gonna kiss me then and I just very very awkwardly said no and

pushed her away and now she hates me I think that's my only ever experience I'll have with a girl because it's really put me off but like she hates me now like she ruins every night's out like all my nights out since she'll I'll be with my friends and she'll be there like glaring at me, taking photos, taking videos of me. Like she's obsessed and I don't really know why and I don't really know what to do because it's completely ruining any night out for me. So I don't really know what to do.

Any advice would be much appreciated. Bye. Babe. Oh babe, love you. Hope you're okay. That's like really very traumatic. It so hard isn't it because it's like if that was a guy yeah i was just i would literally just wrote that down it's so funny isn't it it's like what does what is it just like the stature the size like the aggression that men

can have like why does it make it so much worse if that was a guy that behavior like i think like that is like even being in the cubicle with you when you're that fucked like that's not a safe space to be really with anyone in that mindset in mindset yeah we're like male or female but i think yeah but we excuse like maybe because she might be like a five foot two girl and you just think like well you know yeah on someone your own size you are do you know what i mean but yeah babe that's like really bad boots crazy that she was like nine out of ten kiss as well so she must have thought you were like present and loving it which is crazy that you were full blackout so i didn't ask for a trip advisor of you why are you sending me that do

you know what i mean you should catch me sober imagine you're like listen i'll give you the 10 out of 10 next time. Yeah, that's just, okay, what would you do? I mean, that is really bad.

If it's ruining nights out for you and you feel like you can't go out, like if that was a boy, you would fully report them. I think you need to message her and be like, can we go for a coffee? Really?

Yeah, I think you need to talk to her. I feel like she would ruin your life. I agree. Do you reckon? She seems, you know what

it is i think the rejection part of it is really i agree taking things over there yeah it's like tipped her into like crazy town like to stand there taking pictures and videos is is like borderline psycho i'm not gonna lie like that is weird behavior if it were me i probably would go to someone especially at uni like i don't know who that person would be i know i can't even think at uni maybe i'd go to like really really tough like this is hit or miss like message one of her friends and be like i don't know if yeah like if she was a friend of a friend can we speak to the friend it can like can i get some middle ground advice on here because i actually don't know what to do. If it gets really bad,

I genuinely would go to a person of authority and be like, I don't feel safe. I don't feel safe when I, if it gets that bad, I don't feel safe being in public spaces when she's there. And like, I don't know what,

I mean, I don't know what can be done other than like a fucking ASBO, but. A restraining order. But like, you should not definitely not just let it slide and like hope it goes away

because like it could last three years she could fully do that to you for three years yeah I guess the reason I say like could you chat is like

could you just try like if she was a friend of a friend then she might have like the capacity to be you know normal so maybe could you

have a conversation and be like sorry I might have missed something because that night I was really drunk I'm not into you so what's going on here because you have a conversation and be like, sorry, I might have missed something because that night I was really drunk. I'm not into you.

So what's going on here? Like, what do you want from me? What's the pictures? What's the videos? And can we stop? Because that's wild. And when you're all drunk and on a night out,

you can't really go up to her because it's just going to be drama. No, no, it has to be sober. Sober, yeah. So cold light of day.

And isn't it a coinkydink that she starts forgetting or like not remembering her night from the moment that she proposes a kiss to her? Do you know what I mean? Good point. Some people slipped into a drink somewhere. Really good point. Oh my God, I didn't even think about that.

I know that might be a bit extreme, but that does happen to women. Oh my God, it does happen all the time. Also, I've never blacked out. So if I now blacked out, you best believe I'm thinking that something i've never blacked out so if i now blacked out you best believe i'm thinking never in my life babe i've told you this i remember too much i don't i always used to think people just said it because they didn't want not even once never i think i've been spiked twice in my life i will never ever forget it is that you literally

like it's actually the most terrifying thing of all time you wake up and you think like how did i get from there to here it is so fucking scary don't get me wrong like i can wake up and be like wait what did we do again and like step through the motions but once i've spoken it through i know exactly why blackout is you literally lose 12 hours of your life like no i don't like that at all that's crazy i was once in a club i definitely my drink was 100 right because i remember drinking the drink and then I just woke up in the morning and Mim was next to me and was like, fucking hell. You were a fucking nightmare to get home.

Yeah. Well, I was just like dead. I was literally just like limp on the floor. Like just out of it, like completely. It was bad, bad, bad vibes. And I don't want to, yeah, as you say,

like assume anything. But it's not out of the realm of possibility. Absolutely no way. Just, yeah. And like just because she's a woman doesn't mean that she couldn't have done it. Yeah. assume anything but it's not out of the realm of possibility absolutely no way just yeah and like just because she's a woman doesn't mean that she couldn't have done it yeah or doesn't mean that you have to like not take it as seriously or whatever because it's like it's still quite crazy behavior and you don't feel nice and it's ruining your experience of uni and we don't want that for you we want you to have a great time so yeah there's something that needs to be done

sorry i've actually just this has really brought up some memories of my own i was at uni oh my god i completely i actually completely like blocked this out my memory because it was so bad there was this girl okay i have to be really anonymous here this is when she'll say her full name no raw actually like get with her oh right then she came out right let's just call her alicia yeah and she and i came out at uni before i think before but she and i for some reason i actually don't really remember the nub of it just hated like absolutely hated each other we did the fight you know like the boxing competition oh yeah we did it together and i will never forget she punched me so hard once she i literally i like publicly passed out for a second training she was head like hench and there was one night i will never forget i was in a club and her friends had made

signs on cardboard being like annie mack is scum of the earth and they were held sorry i actually completely forgot about this it was just before the fighter as well and we were supposed to fight each other and then someone stepped in and was like they cannot fight each other and like and also she would have i would be in hospital like there was no way yeah you've got to be against like your own like weight weight and then so yeah it was just and it was the same thing like i would get harassed like her friends would come up to me and like say all this nasty shit it was it was wild wild god i love girls but they can be nasty it's crazy have i missed a step in your life where you're a professional fighter no babe at bristol when you do like that you know we both did it you do like amateur fights like white collar it's like

so i so embarrassing because i literally got knocked out in 30 seconds i lit oh it was the most embarrassing time of my life my whole face was black. What? Yeah. Yeah. I did it not at uni. I did it outside of uni with a proper like boxing club called Double Jab. And their slogan was

Jab Don't Stab in New Cross. Shout out Marnie Swindles that ran it. She then won The Apprentice. She's an absolute boss bitch. I love her. Yeah, I did it there.

But I was like hench at that time and I was up against someone my own size. Although, fucking hell, it hurts when you get punched in the face. Sorry, and then you watch... Did you wear... Yeah, of course.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you watch, like, you know, like Anthony Joshua do 12 rounds. Imagine. Also, getting punched like that is no joke. And they're punching again. Yeah. Oh, it's madness.

It is a madness. You can't really appreciate how hard boxing is until I genuinely think until you've been punched in the face I also believe that everyone should be punched in the face

at least once in their life agreed and you can really tell the people who haven't holla should we do a round up yeah okay

Lauren number one family friends with Penry yeah listen we're really sorry that that happened because you were used and abused yeah

but he's figuring his own shit out and he is leaving collateral damage along the way. And babe, you must believe in the power of karma. It will come back to get him one day somehow. You won't know it. Well, even if he lives closeted for the rest of his life, God love him.

What a horrible way to live. Do you know what I mean? Yes. What a sad, sad life. You with like your wife, Mary, and your three kids. Like, it's sad. You just want to be living another life. Do you know what i mean yes what's that sad life you with like your wife mary and your three kids like it's sad you just want to be living another life do you know what i mean um laura number two male female friendships oh he did you dirty there babe i'm so sorry that that had to happen because i we've all been there where you're in a situation with someone that you don't want it to escalate to sex and they you you, I can feel the hand on me now

scraping over the top of the hip. It's the pulling. Yeah, and it's pulling the hip in and then it's going on the line of your knickers and you have to be like, no thank you. No thank you. And it's not fun.

It's a position to be in. That's really bad. It's horrible, creepy fingers. Bad. Salad fingers coming over the top. And you just want to go, you literally want to scream get the fuck off me

yeah as you should that's the line girls if anyone needs it that's it get the fuck off me oh the problem is

when you're hammered with a capital H that is hard to come out of your mouth sometimes Lauren number three you need to have a conversation with

we need to come to your uni and get this girl I don't know I feel really invested in this now I feel like we need to make you safe what uni are you at? tell Rihanna option number one

you speak to someone option number two will you come to your uni with cardboard signs and we write whatever her name is as scum of the earth scum of the earth and then we get out

some of our old jabs our jabs left hooks, do you know what I mean? We'll come and head to boxing gear, babe. Don't you worry. We'll be your personal bodyguards for the night. Anytime you need us, baby, you just let us know.

We'll be there with cameras flashing like this. You want some? Yeah! You gotta get past us first! You heard us! I feel that passionately about this. If you need us, baby, you're cool. And we will drive to you.

But also, like, maybe go to social services. Not social services. What do you call them? Like, uni health, whatever. Social sec? Something like that, yeah. Welfare? Welfare.

Welfare. Go to the welfare unit. Ask Angela? Ask Angela! Good. Are we doing question of the week? Yeah. Get it.

Richard, play the jingle. Okay, seeing as we were talking about bitchy girls, if you heard a rumour about a friend, would you tell them or protect them from that rumour? Wait there, let me give you the options. I'd tell them so they could confront it. I'd protect them and deny the rumour, like, on their behalf. Whoever's voting no, you need to get some new friends.

Because that is not right. So you're saying I tell them. Are you clapped? Of course I tell you. Are you tapped in the brain well lucky for you 85 of the galleys have said the same 15 however have said that they wouldn't tell them they'd protect them and protect them as much as they could yeah i just think they have to know i guess what they mean is like if it was like a nasty rumor that like maybe they didn't need to know if it was a comment that had literally like

I don't know like she's ugly sure have you heard that about me recently if someone said that I don't think

I would necessarily call you and say by the way Rahana thinks you're ugly yeah that would be just deep like for no reason why do I need to tell you that

but if I was like sorry Rahana to use you as a prop but if I was like it's a little gossipanna to use you as a prop, but if I was like, It's a little gossip. Rihanna thinks that you're like, a really shit person. Sorry,

that was quite deep. Or if you were like, Rihanna said that she saw you kissing Rory outside Tesco Express. Obviously, I would then alert you to the fact that you best not have been kissing my man.

Not even that. If I was like, someone saw you do XYZ on Saturday night and I feel like, and she came to me because like, obviously you have to tell them.

Obviously. Yeah. I actually agree. If someone called me ugly, I would want to know. Okay. Get that in the notes, everyone. If someone,

let me write that down right now. You got her number so you can message her if anyone ever says that about her. Really? Do you really think, to be fair, me too actually

because then I just think I need to know so I can fuck you up. No, I just want to know so I know that you're a c**t. I'm so sorry. She didn't even know she dropped the C-1.

I agree. Rahan, going back to my book of everything that everyone said, I need to know who said what so that I can know who I'm safe around. There's that everyone said i need to know who said what so that i can know who i'm safe around there's things i don't need to know i'm too sensitive i wouldn't tell you but maybe it's friend dependent like if you know they've got a thick skin and they can take it you can give it to them well also if it's things like your i heard a rumor

that your boyfriend or your partner oh yeah it's. Obviously, you have to tell them. It's so hard with stuff like that, though. Sorry, but with, like, those kind of rumours, do you want to get your receipts? It was like that girl with the two Instagram stories. Best get your information nailed down. Agreed, because you just don't want to go in and blow someone's life up. With no information.

For the sake of it. Like, no one needed to run. I don't know if I can say this. Go on. No one needed to run to and tell her that shagged at thingy's wedding. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Yes, I do. Okay, yeah. No one needed to do that, really, because no one's got receipts. Until you've seen it, you're not going to see, babe, you're not going to see a 4K video of shagging at mmm's wedding. It's not going to see, babe, you're not going to see a 4K video of Shagging at his wedding.

It's not going to happen. That is eight porno. Oh, yeah. Rubbish. Got to be subscribed to the OnlyFans for that. But you know what I mean? I do just think there's some rumours that let them be rumour.

Let them be rumour. But then there's other things where you need to be like, I heard on The Great Van and I think there might be some truth other things where you need to be like, I heard on the grapevine and I think there might be some truth to it because I spoke to XYZ and I did my research. If anyone has a rumor on me,

I want to know it. Okay? I want to put that out there now. I must know. I will burn their house to the effing ground. And babe, if someone had a rumor about you,

I'd fuck them up. I'd get my boxing gear on and I really would. Yeah, guys. I would, also, I would do that thing where I wouldn't know but I'd say it so gear on and I really would. Yeah, guys. I would... Also, I would do that thing where I wouldn't know, but I'd say it so hard on my chest,

like, there's no way she would do that. There's no way. Then I'd come to you and be like, babe, you didn't do like X, Y, Z, did you, at the weekend? Because I've heard you did and I said it wasn't true, but was it true?

Was it true? Do you know what I mean? I'd really win my chest up front. I'd be like, no! She would never. Then I'd speak to you about it and I'd be like, no, she would never. Then I'd speak to you about it and I'd be like, did you?

Crazy. You're wild. Guys, thank you so much for coming back to the pod. We will see you next week. Sorry, was that episode 30?

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