Leave A Message with Ally & G - 51 - You've Been Caught Cheating... But You Just Can't Stop!

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

What's the difference between a high sex drive... and a sex addiction? It's OK to be horny, but when are we crossing the line from being rabbits and turn into dogs?! That is where we start on this wee...k's episode of Leave A Message before Ally & G help this week's Gally's navigate a tricky terrain of red flags. From a Gally who needs to take back control after his friends try to thwart a break-up... to an SOS call involving serial cheating around a serious commitment. This week is truly the depths of relationship hell when it comes to the situations our Gally's are finding themselves in... Want to be a part of the group chat and featured on the pod? Send your voice note to https://wa.me/message/LLWFXNK4YXMHE1 (and please, don’t leave out ANY of the juicy details). NOTICE: Any advice provided in this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute professional advice or guidance; all information, content and materials presented are for entertainment purposes only. Any injury, damage or loss that may result from the consumption of this podcast is at the sole responsibility and risk of the listener. Follow Ally & G Instagram: @allyandg TikTok: @allyandg YouTube: @allyandg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 Well, just because I just think, like, okay, so we were just saying that apparently, who has a sex addiction? Tristan Thompson. No, I don't know that he actually said that, allegedly. I don't know that he actually said that, but I do know Katie Price would say that her partner had a sex addiction. I don't know. I just think, like, listen, if you're in rehab for sex addiction, that's
Starting point is 00:01:06 a different thing. But saying like, I cheated, I have a sex addiction doesn't fly. Yeah, I don't think you can like fart and then just be like, I have IBS. Like if you don't. Do you know what I mean? Just the definition of a sex addiction. Good, Rohana, thank you. Someone saving our career out here. Someone who has a sex addiction, on the other hand, often feels out of control when it comes to sex. These differences also show up in how sex affects relationships.
Starting point is 00:01:33 So that's different to someone who has a high sex drive. Yes, very different. Oh, really? It's not just high sex drive. What do you mean you're addicted to... So obsessive sexual thoughts, spending excessive time, less of time engaging in sexual activities, filming shame or depression about your sexual thoughts, spending excessive time, lengths of time engaging in sexual activities,
Starting point is 00:01:46 filming shame or depression about your sexual appetite, excluding oneself or avoiding activities, cheating on partners. So it's actually a lot more like mental. Yeah, I feel like it's volume. It's volume. And also it's like that then kind of not warrants the cheating, but obviously you can't get that sheer volume from one person who has a job and like a life to live and sleep for hours a night, do you
Starting point is 00:02:09 know what I mean? So then you must get elsewhere, you must have multiple sources for your output. I was watching Olivia Atwood getting Filthy Rich, the new series last night, and I was watching this kink, oh, I'll never kink, shame, power to you, whatever gets you going. This guy, he said, it's not really a sexual kink. It's more like a pleasure thing, like a way to find joy. There's this woman that's six foot five, and her whole obviously thing is she's a tall woman. That's how she's fetishized and how she's like now making money. But this guy goes round, he pays her £600 just to be carried by her for like 20 men, carried like a baby.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Are you telling me I can make £600 from carrying around? You can't know because you're not six foot five. And you probably couldn't lift most of them. I know you've been training at the gym, but I don't know whether any grown men are going to get on your back. But is she hench? Yeah, she's like a solid girl. She picks him up like he's a feather.
Starting point is 00:03:11 600 pounds. I say watch it. It's amazing. Wow. Yeah. Sorry, I don't know how I got onto kinks. Oh, obsessive sexual thoughts, I suppose. If you're with someone with a sex addiction, do you think there's ways in which you can
Starting point is 00:03:24 still be with them and they never cross the boundary that you've set out with them? They went to go and see a lady three times a week, but it's like they pay for it and it's in a structured time as if it was a therapist. Do you think you could be with them? Personally. Just in general. Well, yeah, well, I guess it depends what your own boundary is, whether you consider that cheating. Fascinating. Maybe, I guess it depends on what your own boundary is, whether you consider that
Starting point is 00:03:45 cheating. Fascinating. Maybe, I don't know. God, I'm giving hack to all men that enjoy cheating. Why don't you just figure it out? I suppose that's what an open relationship is. Yeah, true. An open relationship is a bit different because it's not like, in that instance, you could
Starting point is 00:04:00 like find a therapist that was actually just one person that you have sex with. Yeah, or just a happy ending. But an open relationship means you can date freely. You have a primary partner and then you can date freely. Yeah. No, but it's different because it's not one person. Well, also, yeah, you're both part of the open relationship, I suppose, so you would have to want to do the same.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Yes. Or not have to, I guess. One person in the open relationship can have a little dry spell. The thing is, the reality is that that's not going to work, because it has to be equal, otherwise these people get jealous. Great. Sorry, continue with the intro. I'll be thinking about this forever more. This is actually an all sex podcast. Welcome to LAM. Leave a message. Love you.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I'm Ali, that's G. Hi. We're Ali and G. And this is the podcast where we get your voice notes, and we basically just talk about them for a bit of time. We're honestly obsessed. And if anyone ever stops us in the street, it's like, I love your podcast, the first thing we say is send a voice note then. Also, we're sure that people actually send voice notes.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I'm thrilled about it, guys. I'm glad we've made a safe space where everyone feels, you know, comfortable. And please keep them coming because Rohana's actually gassed about, you know, the ones that have been coming in. She opens the phone and she's just like, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, it's like it's like pop pop pop pop pop, and it's brilliant. Brilliant, so keep them coming. Notifications are notifying, and we love it.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Oh, we best have Kieran today. Yeah, Katie Price's cheating husband. Oh, good. I think so. Allegedly. Allegedly. No, it's not alleged though. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Well, we didn't see him in the bath with the nanny. He literally went on the front page of the site. Where did he go, loose women, and said, I do have a sex addiction, and I do bath with the nanny. He literally went on the front page of the site and said, Where did he go? Loose women. And said, I do have a sex addiction. And I do shag the nannies. Oh my gosh. That's so funny. He did.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Okay, carry on. And her best friend on holiday. Don't forget that one, Katie. Love you, you're strong woman. Yeah. Brilliant. Hey, galleys. I love the pod.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I just wanted to leave a message and talk about one of my current situations that's going on. So me and this guy that's called Impaarden, we were together a few months ago. We basically went on one date, said I love you straight away. He told his family, like he told his family about me, I told all my mates about him. It was quite rushed, but then a couple weeks later, he says he wants a pause because of his mental health. I've heard this line too many times, so I'm like, okay, that shit's settled.
Starting point is 00:06:21 But he says he wants to keep contacting, keep talking and stuff. Few days later, he removes me. Okay, brilliant. Then a week or so later he adds me back again then removes me. Okay, great. So then I properly remove him as well. This is on snapchat. I still have his number and everything. But then a couple weeks later he adds me back. But then we have a mutual friend he adds me back but then we have a mutual friend Kuyper who's having an 18th party and on the same day I've got another friend who's 30th it is who I do theatre with I managed to sort of lift there and back from the one that's like longer away the 30th party but then all my mates from college go to Kuyper's 18th with Payden and are with him all night. I'm getting phone calls all night, messages saying that I need
Starting point is 00:07:12 to get back with Payden, that he's great, he's funny. These are my friends, not his friends, he didn't know them before this party, these are my friends from college. I got like three face times, loads of calls off Payden at like five o'clock in the morning. He voice noted off one of my mates phone saying that, to add him back, but obviously I haven't. But the fact that all my mates have done that, to me it's just a bit fucked. And one of my other mates who, the Pallex, who didn't go to the 18th, she agrees with me. But we start college back in the week and I haven't spoken to anyone other than Pallex since this party. And I don't really know what to do because I don't I can't tell whether
Starting point is 00:07:53 they're all like fuming at me that I haven't got back with Payden. Yeah, so I'd love your advice. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot, Rachel. I might actually, can I just say, I know this is not the main takeaway, the fact that you were meant to be attending an 18th and a 30th on the same day. Who are your friends? Black Mirror, that's theatre for you.
Starting point is 00:08:15 That is theatre. I'm sorry, that's not right. Pick a camp, pick a side. Well, you know Spread Your Wings. He's spanning many, many age groups. That's a gear shift. I like that you picked the 30th though. God, you're so cool.
Starting point is 00:08:28 30 is way cooler than 18, I have to say now. Yeah, although I did have some fun at some 18s. I know, but it's so messy. Oh, I did some messy things, yeah. Right, but like now we look back, I think, God, no. I hope our 30th is some messy, babe. No, I just mean like people, like people's behaviour is messy. Yeah, right. This is wild. Like, I don't know who Payden has employed to do his PR, but
Starting point is 00:08:50 he's doing a very good job. Why does everyone suddenly love the guy that was like hot, cold, cat, mouse, boring? No, Payden. You don't get added back on Snapchat. Sorry. Snapchat is a dangerous place to be. A number one get off Snapchat, honestly. All the kids are on Snapchat, sorry. Snapchat's a dangerous place to be. And number one, get off Snapchat, honestly. All the kids are on Snapchat, babe. I know, and it's just like, but it's so anxiety-inducing, Snapchat. Because you don't know what the picture's going to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:13 You don't get a preview. And also, honestly, I will take this question to my grave. How do you guys remember what the person has said? The message disappears. Yeah, wild. You can stop that from happening. Oh, thank you, Jenzie. But you have to manually save it. You have to manually save the message. No, you. You can stop that from happening. Oh, thank you, Jenzie.
Starting point is 00:09:25 You have to manually save the message. No, you can do it in chat now. Do it in chat now, babe. I don't use it, but I just know. Grow up and do it in chat. You mean grow down and do it in chat. Grow right down. Don't want to grow up anymore, actually.
Starting point is 00:09:39 You old bag. Yeah, I just think, like, I know it's like, it's probably not that deep, babe, is the truth of it. Your friends all got pissed with this boy who claims to love you and like pulled the wool over their eyes and they're now like, oh my God, he's great, la la la. You don't need to listen to them. You know he's not great and he kind of took you for a ride. So if any of them have a problem with you because of that, just say to them, I don't want to be with him because he's a bother very nicely. You tell them to speak to us. You say, listen.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yeah, leave a message episode 51 on actually, please. Because Ali and G say that he sounds like a bit of a waste of space and I shouldn't be with him until he's sorted his own shit out. Why are you adding me, un-adding me, talking to me, not talking to me? That's also like such toxic behaviour. Like you want me to think about you, then you want to take it away. Oh, so jarring. And now you want to convince my about you, then you want to take it away. Oh, so jarring. And now you want to convince my friends you're great
Starting point is 00:10:27 and you've never done anything wrong. It's boring, Payden. Get a job. To Pallix and... Pallix and... No, Kuyper. Kuyper. Pallix and Kuyper. Hope it's the real names.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Yeah. Sorry, Kieran One. Pallix and Kuyper. Stop it. Sorry, Kieran One. I didn't mean to. Listen, I honestly think, babe, you've just got to like kind of block, like this is an easy thing to say, easier said than done. You have to really block it out. And when they try and talk to you about it, it's like, I don't really want to talk about that today. I'm not, I'm not with, yeah. And also, yeah, and also you met him one night. If you like him, go for it.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Go and have a coffee. Have a nice time, be friends. I'm good over here. Over here. And please stop talking to me about him because it's really jarring and I kind of hate him. And also I'm sad because he did say he loved me on date one and then he ghosted me. He made me sad.
Starting point is 00:11:16 So I don't want to be with him. You've got to take back the power. People in this situation have taken the power away from him because they've, they're now controlling the narrative. No, no. If there's one thing to remember in this life is that you've got to control your own narrative. Lily Modlin always says Kim K it and I think it's good because think about all the strings that Kim
Starting point is 00:11:38 pulls all the time she's in control of her own narrative. Take about the narrative control here. Yeah and if your friends are seeing you look a bit undecided or a bit unsure, they think they can have the narrative. They can have the, Paden's great, la la la. They can pull the strings on Paden's behalf. Don't let them. Yeah. Say, I'm good, guys. I know what I want. I'm done. I'm honestly done. I deserve better than that. And as my friends, you should also agree.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And if you don't, goodbye. Goodbye. Pallex is my friend. Pallex doesn't think I should be with him. Exactly. Me and Pallex are going to sit and have our lunch over here at college. And then we're going to go to a 30th at the weekend because we're theatre kids. So fuck you. I think it's quite weird that they'd encourage him to be with... Payden.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I agree. I think it's sass. But then I guess they're young. They're young and they've been easily manipulated by Paden whilst a few WKDs do. Do kids still drink WKD? What do kids drink now? I've no... Honestly babe, I've no idea. I bet it's white claw.
Starting point is 00:12:34 White claw and a vape. Oh yeah, white claw and a vape. What do kids drink now? I feel like it's like... What are 18 year olds drinking? Do you know what I mean? Barefoot? Yeah, barefoot.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Is that a drink? The wine? Wine, yeah. Oh, it's a what I mean? Barefoot? Yeah, barefoot. Is that a drink? The wine? Wine, yeah. Oh, it's a Barefoot Rosé. Really? That was... Barefoot, it was scartas. That's still knocking around?
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah, chocolate chips. No, wait, what was the one that we had, not Barefoot? Echo Falls. Yes, Echo Falls. Loved Echo Falls. Loved. When they did the fruity one, but it was fruity. Yeah, yeah, it's like Ribena.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yeah. Yeah. Really good. God, that shit can put you into an early grave, actually. Did you ever drink MD 2020? No. What is it? Did you ever drink MD 2020? No. What is it? MD 4040? MD 40?
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Starting point is 00:14:03 Now this can be about anything. Obviously, sometimes we ask you for specific topics, but if you've got a story that you think girls need to hear this, then get voice noting. Voice note number two. Hey, Gallies. I have got a story for you. Around August time, I started seeing this guy. We met on Grindr. We went on a couple of dates.
Starting point is 00:14:22 All was going great. We kept seeing each other. I really liked him. He really liked me. went on a couple of dates, all was going great, we kept seeing each other. I really liked him, he really liked me. Fast forward a couple of months, we decided that we'd be exclusive and we said the L word and everything. He goes to the States for a couple of weeks to see his family, all seems well. I go and pick him up from the airport when he lands back.
Starting point is 00:14:42 And then a couple of weeks after that, sort of end of October time, I go on a weekend trip with work. Oh, by the way, he's in the military. I didn't mention that. He's in American military because I live right near an airbase and That weekend I come back. Everything seems fine. We go out for Halloween. All seems great He's introduced me to all his friends. His friends all seem lovely. Again, all American. Again, fast forward like two weeks later, I get a message on Instagram when I'm at home from this random guy that I've never spoken to before. But basically,
Starting point is 00:15:14 it's like a carbon copy of me. Basically telling me that on that weekend, that Saturday night when I was away, he had gone around to his room and slept with him and so I obviously called him and ripped the shit out of him and he's crying like I was saying strong blow this bullshit I'm like on my way to his to pick up all my shit and leave and when I get there he's waiting for me cuz you have at the gate he has to bring me on to base so he has to come pick me up from the gates he was waiting there for me and then we got to his room I'm just packing all my stuff and stuff and he's just sitting there talking to me the
Starting point is 00:15:50 whole time he like tears very man to man like 23 he's like a grown man so I'm like what the fuck what the fuck do I do because he's obviously a dickhead but now he's doing all this so I very stupidly went back to him and was like, oh, it's fine, blah, blah, blah, blah. You gals are gonna hate me for this, but now we are back together. But a couple of weeks ago, I saw him messaging his ex on Instagram
Starting point is 00:16:18 and called him out on it and he said, oh, it was nothing, blah, blah, blah, blah, all the typical bullshit. So now I'm fully ready to just leave. But then I logged onto his computer the other day because I needed to do something for my uni work. I like that. And he has ordered an engagement ring. For you?
Starting point is 00:16:35 With my birthstone in it. His birthstone? So what the fuck do I do, Gallies? Please help me. No, please no! Please help me. No! Please! No! Please help me! No! No! No! This is really bad! Sorry, this is bad, even if you're all good and cushy. If you log on to Rawls' laptop and see his ornament rig,
Starting point is 00:16:59 that's bad already! Not only if weeks before you've seen him DMing his ex. You're in some hot water here, my friend. Iamconfused.com and I do not like it. What is wrong with people? Say what you mean, do what you mean. You can't be ordering engagement rings at the same time as messaging your ex at the same time as shagging people.
Starting point is 00:17:21 That's what they do. Who? Me. No. Because they think, oh it's fine. If that's not cheating, I didn't shag anyone. I was just messaging. And he's trying to convince himself, oh yeah, now I'm ready. Oh, I'll just order a ring.
Starting point is 00:17:34 You're not ready! You're a fucking child! Do you know how young 23 is? Your frontal lobe is so far from fully formed. You must remember he's in the military. They marry young. Sorry. They do?
Starting point is 00:17:44 They marry young, but at 23, I love how you were like, we both... He's grown ass man. He's a child. He's a child. He's 23. He's a full child. He has not yet. He's basically 16.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah. Literally. It hasn't got rid of his training wheels, babe. He's getting it all wrong. I mean, his balls might not have even dropped. He's singing in the choir. As a military. As a soprano.
Starting point is 00:18:03 You can marry young. He's singing in the choir. As a military. As a soprano. You can marry him, but he can sing alto. Okay? Ideally he'd be a tenor, but he's not. Wow, sorry I'm in bits for you babe. Right, okay. There's only one thing for it. Cartandrum. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Tell him. I'm done. I'm done. And I saw the ring and I don't want it. I don't want it. Give it back if you can, if you can't, pawn it. Because I don't want it. I don't want you.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Go down to your local pawnbroker and beg them. Get on your fucking hands and knees and say, you've got to take this thing off me. And hope they know someone with a January birthday, that's all I'm saying. That is ridiculous. That is not right. I was going to ask how much the ring was.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Yeah, but no, Rohana, no. No, but let's accept the ring and then return and then. No, that is our worst. Some people do do that. They do keep all their engagement rings that they've even said no to. If it was a diamond, I would say keep it. If it's not a diamond, is it worth it? Depends when you were born, because a birthstone isn't...
Starting point is 00:19:12 One of them's a diamond. Only one. Like, I'm an opal, give it back. But, yeah. If I'm a sapphire, I don't know. If I'm a ruby, I don't know. No, but listen. Emerald.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Can I say the second you accept... First of all, sounds like you don't want to marry him anyway, so that's good news. The second you accept it, you are in, it's even more difficult, like mentally and emotionally and physically to leave. Yes. So whatever you do, don't accept that ring.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Ignore everything your heart is just saying. You can't be worried as well about the cost because like that is entrapment actually. That's his problem, not yours. If it's 20 grand, we're going to as well about the cost because that is entrapment. Well, also, that's his problem, not yours. If it's 20 grand, we're going to be worried about the cost. But you won't know that. But we can't be wrong because it was his choice to spend 20 grand. It's not on me. It's not my responsibility to guilt take your ring
Starting point is 00:19:56 because it costs you five months' salary. I can't do it. Especially that you cheated on me and now you're texting your ex. Just remember that. Every time you think that, remember that. He fully had sex with someone else, and now he's messaging his ex, and now you're texting your ex. Just remember that. Every time you think that, remember that. He fully had sex with someone else, got you back, and now he's messaging his ex, and now he wants to marry you.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Well, so that was October time. Babe, it's completely different if you'd have forgiven him and you'd have had four years of love and trust and occasionally checking those DMs and they're clear. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And then he gets down on one knee. It's not three months, his guy's nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:21 It's not enough. It's not enough for a lifetime. The only thing I will say, I suppose, you can get married multiple times. I know, but it's not ideal and it is a lot of entanglement and like in a dream world you just have an easy life and don't do that. And can you be asked? Like do you even want to when he's the kind of guy that just thinks DMing is fine? It's not fine.
Starting point is 00:20:38 It's not fine. I think it's worse sometimes. It's so far from fine. So, so like sneaky. And you can't be doing both. Either way, there's intent there. So like it doesn't really matter whether they go out and meet them or text them. There is intent to speak to have communication with someone that is not you.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And it's really, especially an ex that is so messy. Don't get me wrong, he can have friends. Yeah, babe, you got to cut and run. You know you've got to cut and run. I'm done here. You've even said it, babe. You were like, I was kind of done and then I logged. Listen, this is, okay, can I say on the topic of engagements, this is what happens.
Starting point is 00:21:18 They realize that you're unsure and they think exactly as you say, entrapment, I'll make it impossible for them to leave. Because of course- It's pretty sneaky behavior. You see a big shiny ring and you think, trapmen, I'll make it impossible for them to leave. Because of course sneaky behavior, you see a big shiny ring anything. Oh, yeah, okay, give it a go. But also you think he loves me and he wants to be with me forever. And he means it now. Once we're married, he won't do the silly things. He will do the silly things.
Starting point is 00:21:36 You know, he will, whether you're married or not, like, it doesn't matter. Silly things will happen. Like if he's that kind of person, don't get me wrong, a leopard I believe can change their spots, but it's been three months and he hasn't. So we're really falling at the first hurdle there. Like not good. Not a good track record from him. And we just can't be marrying into that. What a babe. Good luck. Honestly, I will pray for you tonight that you actually get out of this okay, because this is so squeaky hard.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I would fully just sit him down and be like, I've accidentally seen something that I didn't want to see. Because actually... And I'm going to stop you writing your tracks. Good. Because I've also seen that you've been texting your ex until you've sorted your shit out. I don't want anything to do with it. Stay strong, babe.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Don't let him weasel his way back because... No weasels around here. Well... Round up! Okay! Number one! Your friends are shit! Wow. Round up. Okay. Number one. Number one. Your friends are shit.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yeah, basically. And you've got to stand up to them, find your power to take control of your narrative. Kim Cahit. Yeah. Well, so I'm being all like cocky, but at 18, I'd have been like, oh my God, really? You think I should be with him? Like, so just I'm saying like from like, you know, looking back on where we first met, then I'm... No, but if you cannot repeat our mistakes...
Starting point is 00:22:47 Exactly, if you can do better... Yeah, in a dream world, I mean... You'll be glad you did. Yeah, yeah. And I just think, just say, no, he's not good enough for me. And if you think he is, something's gone wrong, girls. Do you have such a low opinion of me that you...
Starting point is 00:22:59 Good! ...that you think that I should be with someone like that? We should take crumbs. Stupid. Rude. And keyword number two, yeah, get out, babe. Change your name, change your passport. I don't know. Just get out.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Don't take the ring. Yeah. If anything, if him buying the ring just to be devil's advocate has made you think, I feel excited about that, fine, you can stay with him if you've decided to forgive him, but you have to work together to be in a really good place where he's not messaging his ex before any of that. This is a blanket statement, this isn't just in this situation. Being excited about the ring is different to being excited about the...
Starting point is 00:23:38 No, I meant the engagement, not the ring. Okay, either way, the ring or the engagement, same thing, is different to being excited about the marriage. Because do you know what the ring actually means? It means spending a life with someone. That's actually the meaning. Like, we've all forgotten. It's like, the meaning of a ring is that you are committing to spending your life with that person.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And combining everything. If you don't feel excited about that, then it's just a piece of metal. Really, it is. It doesn't mean anything. Put it on a different finger metal. Really, it is. It doesn't mean anything. Put it on a different finger and it means nothing. Right. So, like, try and untangle that in some way. Can we do Question of the Week?
Starting point is 00:24:12 Come on! I'll be really quick. Have you ever been cheated on? This is just an interesting one because, you know, we think probably what would you say most people? I'd say 80%, yes. This is crazy. Oh, because you know, we think probably what would you say most people? I'd say 80% yes. This is crazy. Oh my god. Of our audience.
Starting point is 00:24:28 This isn't a very, you know, strong survey. We haven't been far and wide. We've just been to Ali and G's Instagram. But only 35% of people said yes. 65% of people said no, never been cheated on. But our audience is young. And also think about all the ones that don't know. I'd be able to say no, but I don't know that I would say
Starting point is 00:24:49 it with my chest. Really? I don't have proof, but I've got inklings of a few of them. I think there might have been some dodgy behaviour if I'm honest. I never found out, I didn't go looking. But do you know what I mean? Yeah. I'd say it's more like 50-50. It must be 50-50. I'd have said 70-30 have been cheated on. I would have said 80%.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Okay. And then this is the question. Low esteem, I hold it. Thoughts on staying with someone after cheating. Now, we're quite torn on this. We change our mind weekly. Daily, weekly and very, very depending on circumstances. This is what some of the girls had to say. Dump immediately. Depends on that person's loyalty and the circumstance of which they cheated.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Yes. It's fine, but it's not business as usual. Hold them accountable and work it out. Grow from it. Very mature. That is very mature. Very, very repised. Physical cheating is a violation of trust too much.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Emotional cheating can be worked out. See, I disagree. I actually disagree. Me too. I disagree. can be worked out. See, I disagree. I actually disagree, me too. I disagree, my emotions are fragile. I cannot be emotionally cheated on. 99% of the time they'll do it again. Now that's a big, a big statement there. I wouldn't say 99%, but like really,
Starting point is 00:25:58 I hate to say this, a cheater never changes his spot. Well, we've got a lot of once a cheater's always a cheater, which I don't believe. I do, I really do. I I don't believe. I do. I really do. I really don't believe it. I think if you have it in your nature to actually pull the trigger and do it, what's to stop you from doing it again?
Starting point is 00:26:12 Get him fucking gone. Also, it's so good notes. And on that note, the gendered him. Yeah. Hashtag not all men. Thank you so much for listening to Leave A Message this week. Love you all so much. Sorry, I thought it was one year, but it's not one year.
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