Leave A Message with Ally & G - 59 - How To Have The Conversation (The Sex One)

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

Have you ever had the scare? You know, the one that happens when you've been irresponsible in the bedroom? This week, Ally & G are Mum & Dad as they help a Gally who had the scare of the century and n...eeds advice on approaching contraception when you're single. Yes, this is Leave A Message... and sometimes we put our spectacles on and become teachers! We also have a story about a friend's boyfriend from HELL! Imagine lying about contracting an STI and then resorting to extreme measures to prove a point about... the other hole. All of this is served alongside Spice Girl reunion rumours and the latest on Tommy & Molly... the stories on this weeks episode are enough to blow your mind! Want to be a part of the group chat and featured on the pod? Send your voice note to https://wa.me/message/LLWFXNK4YXMHE1 (and please, don’t leave out ANY of the juicy details). NOTICE: Any advice provided in this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute professional advice or guidance; all information, content and materials presented are for entertainment purposes only. Any injury, damage or loss that may result from the consumption of this podcast is at the sole responsibility and risk of the listener. Follow Ally & G Instagram: @allyandg TikTok: @allyandg YouTube: @allyandg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Has everyone heard the Spice Girls news? What? They're coming back? Next year. With Victoria? Apparently full line up. Really? That's the goss.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Scott Mills was talking about it on the breakfast show this morning. Shut your actual mouth. So basically Mel Cee-Law, she's gobby, isn't she? She loves it. She went on... Or maybe it was Mel B. Can't remember which one. Mel B's on America's Got Talent and Mel C isn't. Who's Sporty Spice? Mel C. Okay, sorry, it was Mel B. And Mel B, scary.
Starting point is 00:00:41 I actually genuinely only know them by their names. Me too. Me too. But it's so funny. I just like forgot. It's like baby pot. I don't know them by their real names. Anyway, Mel B, Scary Spice was on an Australian radio show and was like, yes, 30 years since we released Wannabe and I'm like, I can't say much, but we're in talks. Shut up. And she said, we all need to do something. By all.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Guys. And they haven't done the full five since 2012 on those Mini Coopers in the Olympics. The Olympics. Because I saw them when there was just four of them. I did too. It's just not the same. I said, you're live! Oh, it is.
Starting point is 00:01:16 It's just the songs, isn't it? It's the same. No, like, it's just like, you know, there is Posh Spide and they all, they talked about her a lot. I know. So. God bless Posh. I did wonder, talked about her a lot. I know. So... God bless Posh. I should wonder why would you not do it?
Starting point is 00:01:28 Do it. I know because she's Victoria Beckham now and she's trying to be really like elevated. And cool and it's like being a Spice Girl. I generally... Being a Spice Girl is far cooler. I think it's the coolest thing in the world when you actually deep the Spice Girls and like... I agree.
Starting point is 00:01:43 What they were and who they touched and like their music. I think they are the coolest people in the world. I think they are arguably, I know people would disagree with this, the cleverest band of all time. Because they had the identities. Because yeah, and they were so, it was so like new when they were at their high. And they were mental, like they were so naughty. Even obviously, don't get me wrong, Little Mix are like a legend.
Starting point is 00:02:07 They're not the same. It's not the same. I love Little Mix, but it's not the same. And also, when the Spice Girls did it, no one else had done it really. Exactly. So then it was like... And they did it in such an iconic way. Stardom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:20 And they were so bolshy and not media trained and like they were just epic. Also, their whole thing like girl power came in a time where that really wasn't the case. Where women really were mean to each other all the time. Yes. Pulled each other down. And that was a really new thing in society. And they really champion that. And actually, they even still do now. The pictures of them, they're still supporting each other and they're always at Victoria's show. I know.
Starting point is 00:02:48 And like, I love it. No, no, I am obsessed. Oh my God, I'd want to be, I'd want to go every night. I'd want to do like what the Taylor Swift fans do. I would do that for the Spice Girls. I would do that for the Spice Girls. What would you be? I used to, my cousins used to always make me be, um.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I think you're, you're, um, baby. No, because Steph was baby, you little bitch. No. I'm such a baby, but I had to be Ginger. But I actually think I am quite Jerry Halliwell. I think I'm Victoria Beckham posh. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, you are.
Starting point is 00:03:12 All scary. All scary, I would have said the same. I would have liked to have been sporty, but Jess was always sporty because she's gay and I couldn't do any of it. You're either baby or sporty. Oh, you're not actually very baby. You are more sporty spice. She's like really like gung-ho.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I love it. Baby's like really cutesy or not cutesy. I think I am quite ginger. Yeah, that's true. Jerry's really like a bit like, you know. She's a bit leery. Leery, yeah. I can be a bit leery.
Starting point is 00:03:38 What are you? Who are you? Sporty spice, not ginger spice. No, sporty spice is Mel C. Ginger spice is Jerry Halliwell. Who are you? Oh no, you don't even know who the Spice Girls are. I do. I do.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I promise. I don't think I would... I think people would say I was scary, but I don't think I'm actually scary. Yeah, I don't think you're scary. I don't think you're scary. I think you're... I actually think you could be posh. I agree.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Why? Because she's very reserved. And she's like wears like all black, like quite sleek, quite mysterious. Yeah, you are posh. I just think you could definitely be posh. And also she always did a one-liner VB, like in the interviews and stuff. Yeah. Like she wouldn't really like all the others like loud gobbit, like ahhh.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Yeah, you're so right. And she just kind of come in with like one like na-na-na-na-na. And you're like, yeah, posh, where did that come from? She spoke. Yeah. Yes. Oh, she speaks. Yes. Yeah. Then I'm definitely scary. Yes. She speaks. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Then I'm definitely scary. Yeah, you give scary energy. Also, she's mental. Yeah, and we love. Like, she is epic. I can't wait for her to go on Paul Branson's podcast. She must be in the lineup. She must be.
Starting point is 00:04:33 You're definitely going to interview them. Babe. I would shit my pants. I would shit my pants. That's one I actually might not be able to do. All five of them in front of me, I'd be like, no, that would be... Okay, let's put it into the universe. Okay, into the universe.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Angels, could you please send us the Spice Girls? Because all five of them are going to be like, no, that would be... Okay, let's put it into the universe. Okay, into the universe. Angels, could you please send us the Spice Girls of them in front of me, I'd be like, no, that would be... Okay, let's put it into the universe. Okay, into the universe. Angels, could you please send us the Spice Girls? Because honestly, that would really change our lives, actually.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Agreed. Wow. Wow. Sorry, I just want to mention, and I know this is a bit sad, a bit of a sad segue. I read this morning about Lily Allen's husband. What? It's come out that he's had a three-year affair with a costume designer on Stranger Things. So obviously, initially it all kicked off because he'd been on Rare. Do you know who he is?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Have you watched Stranger Things? David. What's his full name? I've seen him before, but I didn't realize he was an actor. Yeah, I know. Because I think he's big, isn't he? But I've never watched Stranger Things, so I don't know him. In Stranger Things, he's Millie Bobby Brown's adoptive dad.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Dad? Yes. So he's like one of the, actually, arguably in the top three characters. Yes, he's massive. So apparently, it all came out earlier this year that he had been on Raya. He had an active Raya profile. What? Yeah, horrendous.
Starting point is 00:05:37 She went into rehab. It was really bad. Really? Yeah, she took weeks off the pod. She's not been well, and she hasn't really spoken about it, but they are fully getting divorced. But then it came out today. That's so sad. They didn't get married that long ago. They've been living together five years. They got married three years ago.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Wow. And he's had a three-year affair. Do the maths. Don't they have kids together? No, she had kids before. They don't have kids together. They're from her first marriage. Who were her kids with? Her first marriage. Who? I can't remember his name or what he did.
Starting point is 00:06:06 But actually, Lily Allen, and I don't know whether anyone ever watched this, but back in the day, they did like a documentary on her and her sister starting up like a pop-up or like a fashion shop or something in London. I might be getting this all wrong, but I'm pretty sure I remember watching like a documentary almost about Lily Allen and her sister like starting this thing. Right. And her husband at the time was in it. So I just like, like know him as like a side character, but he'd be a bit like a raw.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Like I don't think he's not a famous. I think he might work in the industry. Sam Cooper. Sam Cooper. Oh my god, Pam Pooper. Pam Pooper. Oh my god. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:39 We've all had a Pam Pooper in our lives. But yeah, how horrific. So apparently it was a costume designer on Strajan Things. Three year affair. Allegedly. Allegedly. Speaking of allegedly, do you guys ever see the blind items? No. Oh, on Deux Moi. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:54 What is everyone talking about? Could be French. Deux Moi. Right, babe. Look, alive. There is this Instagram account called Deux, like, like, like, Deux Tu. Like, Deux, and then Moi. Or like, De Duh 2, or like Duh 2 Me, Duh Moi, and people send in blind items. Follow! But like it is all the gossip you could ever want is on there. Well there was one about her, I don't know if you saw it because it went viral on TikTok, but basically this
Starting point is 00:07:25 was around her relapsing and that she was like just partying nonstop and then he had to go and get her because she went missing for ages and he found her in like a trap house essentially. Yeah. Naked and they were like recording her. He basically had to like pick her up like with no clothes on, put her into the cab and then take, walk out of the cab and into London, like into their house in London. And I just thought to myself, London's actually not set up very well for celebrities. No, it's not. You're right. London is not, London's not LA.
Starting point is 00:07:58 You're very exposed. You're very, because you could just walk on the street, anyone could be there. I mean, like I left the show and I was just like walking normally. You were hounded. But yeah, how was that? No, it's not. Oh my god. Obviously, allegedly, allegedly.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Allegedly, allegedly, everything is allegedly. Who is Des Moines then? How are they getting on the scoot? Because they've now set up this thing, now they're Des Moines, everyone sends their tips to them. It's basically like Gossip Girl, but in real life. Fuck, it's dangerous, isn't it, Gossip Girl? Because I just think people make mistakes.
Starting point is 00:08:27 But also it's really interesting because a lot of the stuff that people send buying items and then actually come out of the press so it is actually quite a lot of legit stuff. Well we're all talking about Tommy and Molly at the moment aren't we? What's the tea? They're back together. Did you see all the pictures? No what? I'm so disappointed.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Okay I know. So they were with Pat,, she just went to Dubai. It was clear that he was with her. And then they, well, so then they got papped leaving the airport. Allegedly, the gosses. Allegedly, the gosses that because they're in a contract with Amazon Prime, they actually can't put out a statement. So instead, they just hired those perhaps to like break the
Starting point is 00:09:05 news for them so that they didn't actually have to say anything and the pictures just like spoke for them. And so yeah, it's them leaving the airport with the suitcases without me. So it's going to be in the second season? Yeah. Yeah. But also, when's that coming out? Can I just say three episodes is not a season.
Starting point is 00:09:20 No, agreed. I think that was her. I think she was unsure as to whether she could actually handle a full blown 25 ep Kim Kardashian reality show and they didn't expect people to really like lap it up. Yeah. Now they're like, oh, like maybe we have like, yeah. And also there's even like fear in the lapping up because there's one thing doing your own YouTube and talking about exactly what you want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:09:42 There's another thing allowing the whole world to see something that has been like... Well, also, I actually think that that's why the three episodes is a bad idea. Because if you just do 25 and put them out, it probably actually would have happened quite a long time ago. And now all this Tommy stuff is going to come out and she's going to have to relive it again. Do you know what I mean? Well, listen, people are going to have their opinions. Not everyone's keen. Well, my main...
Starting point is 00:10:03 For the comeback of Tommy and Molly. My main gripe, did you see the pictures? She's pushing the buggy and a suitcase and he's got one suitcase and a free hand and every single comment is you could have taken both suitcases and let her. It looks bad. It looks like he's just strolling along there with one suitcase, nothing to worry about. She's got a huge suitcase and her big buggy. Why would you not have helped her? Wow. Especially if you're fucking paying them. You would want to look as good as you can. Oh, he hasn't looked alive there, huh, Tommy? He's got some bad PR that boy. He's got to
Starting point is 00:10:38 do a full 180 there to become dad of the year again. This is the thing. Because he was the bosom boy in Love Island. He was Mr. Nice. Pushing the suitcases, honestly, low hanging fruit. If you want to look like Dad of the Year. Maybe Molly was like, I do do that sometimes when I'm a bit on my high horse. Maybe she was a bit like, I've got it. For one, I'd say for your one pat moment, you might have passed it over. No one was thinking.
Starting point is 00:10:59 No one was thinking. Listen, I think Molly is, like, I think she's a really sweet girl. And I just think like, yeah, he's not Dad of the year and he's not partner of the year. And I know that it's hard. Obviously, like, how can I, how could I, I'm talking from my experience, I don't have a child with someone. I know. But it's just like, I wish you could see that you actually could do better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I was hoping we were going to see her with like some heart. I know. I don't know. Sportsman, like an F1 guy. She really, she, or like someone she just really deserves someone fucking kind. She should be with a lecky. And rich. She needs to be with like a labourer. No, she does. She, Rihanna's right. She needs someone rich. Why? Because she's so rich. But when you're that rich, does it matter? Well, I think if you meet someone now at that level,
Starting point is 00:11:42 yeah, I think it does. Because the imbalance of power is weird. Yeah. Although this is the thing with power. Sorry, Rihanna, we will stop yet. It's a funny one, isn't it? Because it's like, you could have someone that like, gives in such a different way. Like I could imagine her being with someone that was like, so loving, so giving in the home, so caring to the babies, however many she wants, la la. That is like some stuff that money can't buy. Of course. So she might need a nice day at home, Dad. She doesn't need someone off in Vegas getting shit faced, shagging who every shagging, and fighting other guys. I just think maybe that's
Starting point is 00:12:20 not what you need. Well, I don't think I... Who am I to tell you? That's our type. Also, allegedly shagging. We don't know that he's done anything. Allegedly drinking. We don't know. No, that's not alleged.
Starting point is 00:12:32 She actually said that herself. He's got a problem. No, he's not got a problem with drink. A problem when he drinks. When he drinks. Is that the difference? I can't remember the language around it. It's something like that.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Should we intro? Yes. Guys, welcome to Leave a Message. This is the podcast for the galleys. Sorry, by the gall around it. It's something like that. Right, that's so important. Should we intro? Yes! Guys, welcome to Leave a Message. This is the podcast for the galleys. Sorry, by the galleys. By the galleys! Everyone on the Tube like, by the galleys! By the galleys, for the galleys! And this week the galleys better be called Molly. We've had Molly so many times, haven't we?
Starting point is 00:13:00 Have we? Hey queens, this is more of a story time than a question, but I feel like pregnancy scares, what a topic. Back in the day when I was shagging, when I was shagging around, I was seeing this guy and it was pretty early days and I knew that he was less emotionally mature than me. I was a year older than him. And that felt like a huge gap. And we were shagging. And I did the stupid thing of saying, you don't need to use a condom, because I was, let's say it together, horny. And I have this deep belief that if you lie about
Starting point is 00:13:40 something, karma will make it true. So we did that, we had sex, and I went to get the morning after pill. And at the clinic, because I was too embarrassed to say I was horny, I said, the condom broke, took my pill. Saw this guy the next day, we had sex with a condom. And what happened? Say it with me, the condom broke. The condom split. And so I had to go and get a fucking second morning after pill, which I actually don't think you do need to do, but I wasn't taking chances. Bad for your body cream.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I knew that my period was going to be late that month because of the pill. And so I said to him, I was like, look, I'm going to be anxious about this. I would like to check in with you. I don't want to have to go through this whole big dance if I am pregnant. If I am, what are your views on it? Oh my God. You've just met him. I love it. For context, I knew I was probably, like, I was definitely going to have an abortion, but I wanted there to be a conversation. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And he looked at me and just said, you are not going to have my baby? Firstly, I'd like someone to back me up. That's horrible. I was like, okay. And then 10 minutes later, I was like, actually, let's rewind. Don't fucking say that. It's my choice what I do with my body. I'm not having your baby. I'm not a vessel for your fucking sperm here. Twack face. Anyway, spoiler alert, I wasn't pregnant.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I actually just kept seeing that guy for a bit. And I don't know why. I think I was just like, he was stressed. But now I'm very sensible with my lovely boyfriend, not that man. And I just feel like conversations around pregnancy and scares and stuff is such an interesting one when you're dating, especially if you're not on contraception. How do you have those conversations? What's the vibe? What the fuck do you do if you get pregnant with some fuckwit off hinge?
Starting point is 00:15:31 I mean, I wouldn't know. I have endometriosis badly. Anyway, lots of love. Oh my god, babe. Sorry, just to clarify. So he said, you're not going to do that to my baby. I thought he said, I thought he meant like, you're not going to have my baby. Got it. That's how I heard it. I thought he said, you're not going to have my baby. Got it. That's how I heard it. I thought he said, you're not going to have my baby. And I was like, I mean, yeah. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:15:49 How will we know which way it is? No, no, no. That makes sense because then she was like, I'm not a vessel for your sperm. So that makes sense. Yeah, okay. Just to clarify. Wow. Much to unpick.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And also very interesting conversation because you're right. I know what my answer is and I know it's not ethically correct, which is not to tell them 100%. If I got pregnant with someone that I had just been really casual with on Hinge, say it was one night stand, maybe two. Sorry, how many times was this? We don't know. I don't know. Well, it was the first time that she went to get the morning article the next day.
Starting point is 00:16:24 So they had the conversation really quickly, which is like so interesting because you are two consenting adults having sex, so actually that conversation feels deep, but that is what you're doing. That is what sex is, especially if your condom's breaking all over the shop or you're just not bothering to put one on. Yeah, I know that this is bad and I'm embarrassed to say it out loud, but if I was casually dating someone and I got pregnant I would not tell them and I would deal with that for myself and I think that's wrong but I would do that because it's like they're actually probably so it's so it is wrong it's so wrong I would do the same but yeah it's it's yeah it's like the most scary thing is then getting
Starting point is 00:17:04 into a battle of someone being like, that's my baby and you being like, oh my god, is it? I don't want it to be and I don't want to have it. Do you know what I mean? If you feel that strongly about not being ready to have a child with someone you don't know, which is probably most people's default, unless you do have endometriosis and this is, this happened to Jesse Cave, the comedian. Does everyone know this story about, um, Jesse Cave plays, who is it in Harry Potter? Luna Lovegood, maybe? Yeah. Is that who she plays? I don't know who it is. Let me just get her up. Luna Lovegood is a character. She is, yeah, but I'm not sure whether that's the right person. Sorry. Lavender Brown, Ron Weasley's brief girlfriend. Sorry about me, not Luna Lovegood.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Anyway, Jessie Cave, I'm pretty sure she has Picos and she met the comedian, what's his name? Alfie Brown. And they met at one of his gigs or something. I'm really like hashing this story, but Jessie, if you're listening, you can voice mail it. Basically, they met, had a one night stand, she got pregnant. She had such bad peak or she'd been told she really struggled to conceive. She kept the baby and she said to him, sorry, I'm keeping your baby. They're now together. They've got like four kids. Wow. But I'm guessing most of the time, a more common thing if you've had a one night stand, you're seeing someone really casually is that you probably wouldn't feel prepared to bring a person into the world with them.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And really you should be able to communicate that to them but then it's this whole thing of like the woman feels like it's her body but the guy like is 50% of that baby technically. Which is true. Which is true. Yeah. And. But they don't have to be pregnant for nine months and then, you know. Okay, I'm going to be devil's advocate here.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Go on then. Because yeah, they don't have to be pregnant for nine months. But sadly, that's the biological cause that we've been dealt. And in theory, they are entitled to a say on whether 50% of their DNA can be tossed in the bin. It's interesting that he's confused by that if he knew that she was going to get... The morning after pill. And then he didn't also took precautions to use protection. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I think in scenarios like that, if you've willingly gone into that situation, obviously you're not going to want to have a baby. Yeah. Yeah. But also, you have to move along. Sorry. Do we? Okay, no worries. Voiceline number two.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Yeah. Whistle stop tour of contraception. Can I just really quickly say, Al's right. I think you have to tell them. I'm just saying my default would be not to because I'm a coward. But I think you do have to say, I think they have a right to know. I think they have a right to know. I'm not saying they have a right to tell you that you have to be pregnant and have a baby, but I think they have a right to know at least that that's what's happened
Starting point is 00:19:46 and that's the decision that you're making. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you want to be part of our group chat, make sure you leave us a voice note using all the details in the episode description. Now this can be about anything. Obviously, sometimes we ask you for specific topics. But if you've got a story that you think girls need to hear this,
Starting point is 00:20:14 then get voice noting. Hi, Gallies. I've just had a flashback that I feel needs to be shared. And the flashback is to my university days and specifically my roommates boyfriend and university. And I'm going to tell you a few stories very quickly, don't worry Rihanna, about him. Rihanna.
Starting point is 00:20:33 And I'd love to hear your conclusions. So the first story is he was a diehard vegan. And he was the kind of vegan, like no hate to vegans, no slander. But he was the kind of vegan that would give you so much shit at every single opportunity about eating meat and dairy. And he used to sit in our house in our apartment, well over his welcome time. So like 11 o'clock in the morning on a Sunday, and he would be critiquing the bacon that my other roommate and I were cooking and talking to us about how pigs are intelligent animals. I love the pigs, but not your place. Get out of my house. Next story gets a bit more extreme. We're going to go up in extremeness. He developed
Starting point is 00:21:14 herpes, general herpes, at some point while dating my roommate. My roommate was like, oh my God, he must be cheating on me. So she confronted him about it. And he said he got it from playing rugby. And that the boys have their hands all up and around each other's genitals and shorts playing rugby. And that's how he contracted the her keys and gave them to her also. She believed him despite our prompting that that was an absolute bullshit lie. So that's story number two. Story number three, the most extreme. He wanted to do anal with my roommate and was trying to convince her to do anal for months.
Starting point is 00:21:54 One night, he was quite drunk and was saying, no, it really doesn't hurt. And she's like, I'm not doing that. It will hurt me. And he said, no, it won't. And he grabbed a beer bottle and he said, I'll prove it to you. No, he put the beer bottle up his butthole and said, look, doesn't hurt. And she then was like, well, I can't argue that and then did anal with him. Those are three stories about him. Oh my god. All completely true and completely jarring. And sometimes I think back to this man, I'm
Starting point is 00:22:22 wondering what he's doing now. Like, does he have a job? Is he working in finance? That's what he was studying. So somewhere out in Canada, there's this man working in finance who shoved a beer bottle up his ass one day. And yeah, I just think that needs to be shared and needs to be chatted about. So love to hear your thoughts. Can I just say, I know no one's going to agree with this, I kind of rate the fact that he put something up his own ass first, because what pisses me off about a lot of men is that they're desperate to have anal, but you go anywhere near their asshole and they like jump across the room.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And I just think- Did it need to be a beer bottle? No, it absolutely didn't need to be a beer bottle. I just think there are many, many more. Grab a dildo, please. Yeah. Also like glass. Even a tampon.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wouldn't be the same though. No, a tampon, I'd know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wouldn't be the same though. No, a tampon I'd be like good for you. Have you seen the size of your dick? Super tampon. Is that what you're living? Super plus. No, what is it called? Super?
Starting point is 00:23:15 Babe, you'd be pretty worried if you had to, you know, deal with a willy being the size of a super plus tampon and that's all you had. You don't know he's got a tiny willy? Beer bottle heads aren't that big either. He's not shoving the end of a beer bottle up his ass. Oh my god, imagine it wasn't the heads. Yeah. Because we've all imagined it was the thin bit, but who knows what he does at rugby, clearly a lot. Sorry, on the herpes, I just think if you're going to fucking lie, make sure it's a good one. Like medically correct. Like lie well. Oh, lie well.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Lie well. Because what is that? And like lots of love to your friend. She honestly needs a head scanner. Why wouldn't he have just said, I got herpes way before you and I'm just in a flare up? No, but you'd have to tell someone before you sleep with them. Well, if you're a good person, yeah. Not if you're a dick, which he clearly is. And I think he could have got away with that more than being like a guy at rugby touched
Starting point is 00:24:03 my balls and he must have herpes on his hands Because also it's like no, sorry. So what did he have a coleslaw and I suck you off coleslaw No, but I don't even think that you can get genital herpes from oral herpes I actually don't know that you know, most often transmissive between partners during oral anal or vaginal sex Okay, so you can. I think you can. Well, you definitely can't get it from a fucking hand job.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Because he was that guy in maths with Christina that got that cold slur. I just got a cold slur. Are you okay? I think it's funnier to call it a cold slur. Like, cold slur is so horrible. Anyway, cold slur, slur, whatever. Cold slur, slur. He had a cold sl saw and he like wouldn't
Starting point is 00:24:47 touch her. And I'm like, relax. Like it's not in your fingernails. Like you can hold her hand. Like just because you've got a cold saw doesn't mean you have to sit on a different sofa from her. He just didn't like her. And he used his cold saw as an excuse. It's not an excuse. Wow. I'm sorry. Oh, the other thing I wanted to say was about the veganism. Oh my f- It's so jarring because I just think you make your choices and I'll make mine. This is a free country. Like liberty, equality, whatever they, whatever they do. Liberty, fraternity, equality.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Is that from Les Mis? No, that's the French statement of independence. Sure. But I just think that actually of all the things would jar me the most. Yeah, I love that she had the 11 o'clock was when he was unwelcome in the house. I agree. It's like when you're trying to be hungover and live your life in your own home, unless you're really close with the friends, boyfriends, 11 o'clock is the cutoff.
Starting point is 00:25:41 You've got to get out. Yeah. Get out. And I did not follow that rule with my ex. I used to let him stay all the time and actually jarring in hindsight. I'll have a hard out now. Hard out. Hard out whilst I'm living with other people.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Do you know what I mean? I just say respect. How respectful. Respect on my name. Let's go into question of the week. Very important this week, we're talking about contraception. I would never have that chat early doors about the whole, like, you know, if we get pregnant, what will we do? Maybe I would, like, hypothetically.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Never ever had that conversation. How do you discuss contraception with a new partner? This is the question. Talked about it near the start of our relationship, needed to be on the same page about it. This is really good, actually. If you start having sex with someone, talk about it early doors, because we don't want anyone assuming anything. Agree. Actually, that's the main thing to say. No one needs to assume because you might think, oh, she'll be on the pill if she's letting me come inside her. Not true.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Ask upfront but assume condoms are still always needed. Straight to the point, go through options and decide on what's best for both of you. I used to ask every new man to take an STI test before letting them near the girls. As you should. I would love to be able to do that. Wow. Do you know how long it takes to get an STI test back if you're horny? If someone is actually dating, not like for a one-nighter, but maybe like if you were starting to date someone.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Well, this is the thing, you just assume that everyone does it, but maybe people don't get on Sexual Health London. Do you know what I mean? In a serious environment, it's important to set boundaries. Sorry, babe. I love your honesty. I don't. Whoopsie. Me and you both, Queen. Yeah, show me your clean results and you may enter. I tell them I'm on the pill straight away. This is so good. I don't really, but I'm a lesbian. The lesbians, they don't bother. They don't talk about it. I think this conversation needs to be one of the first chats.
Starting point is 00:27:26 If he refuses to wear condoms, goodbye. Yeah, definitely. Okay, and then we asked... Do you feel comfortable asking a new sexual partner to use a condom? Yes, I always ask if they don't offer. No, if they don't offer, I don't say anything. I'm so proud of the girls, I've just seen what they said. What do you think that they said? It's majority that they go off, they'll tell them if they don't offer.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Yeah, 80%. I'm actually so proud that the girls do that because in the moment it really takes a lot of like, you know, self-worth to say, have you got a condom? Because it's like very unsexy. Yeah, but also it just stops the moment, but it's really important. And you do have to just remember that. Well, just remember guys,
Starting point is 00:28:11 the options are pregnancy or STIs. Yeah, you don't want either. And like, neither of those are really ideal. Yes. And like, yeah, asking to wear a condom is just like the better option, I would say, is a great- And also, listen, we all get swept up in the moment,
Starting point is 00:28:22 we all make mistakes, but it's good to just practice and just have your line that you just pull out. Also have one with you, have one with you. That's the best thing. Because then you'll never go out. And also you can even just like, good guys, proper guys, that are having safe sex will just pull out a condom. But you can do the same. Doesn't even have to be a conversation. You can just pull it out, it'll be a back pocket. Bam. Hand it over, say nothing. Also, it's jarring that you have to, don't get me wrong. Obviously, the onus is on them. But, sadly, that's the society that we live in. So, if you want to... Well, then also, this whole bullshit, sorry,
Starting point is 00:29:01 there's a whole other story and I'd love to get a man in to talk about this. Come on. The whole thing of banging on about how it feels different and la la la. Liars. Utter shit. Give a shit. Give a shit. Utter shit. How it feels for you.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Yeah? Like, please, please, come on. Get ribbed, then. I don't know what to tell you. I think that's all we've got time for today. Sorry, guys. Thank you so much, guys. If this felt like a shorter episode, it was, because there was a fire drill in the building. Again. And leave a message, love's a fire
Starting point is 00:29:29 drill basically and that's all we can tell you. That's it really. So thank you so much for being here with us. We love you so much. Wear a condom and you know, be nice to vegans. They're trying their best

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