Leave A Message with Ally & G - 60 -  Girlfriends Are Forever, Boyfriends Are Just Temporary

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

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Because we're trying to figure it out. Next year, you best believe. How much do we think Coachella would cost if you went for yourself? I actually think you'd be surprised. I saw some girls who did like four girls, one hotel room in like Palm Springs. And she said it was like five grand, but for all of them. Four girls? Five grand split across four girls.

Including their tickets. No, that's just the hotel room. And then you've got to get to the desert and then you've got to have your outfit. No, no, no, but the desert, yeah. Your flights. Yeah outfit, your flights. For us that's what would be the most expensive. How much does it cost? Sky scanner. Where do you fly into? LA. I've never been to LA. I think if we put it in advance I don't think it would be like... Flight for what? 800 quid? Yeah probably. So 700 quid? No if we put them in advance maybe a bit less. I genuinely do think that you could...

It's not going to be, you know, a couple hundred quid. You're going to have to drop a couple of K. Is it the same weekend? But it's not going to be 20 grand. Every year? Yeah. This time of year. Would we just fix up Look Sharp and go on Friday?

Like why are we not moving? Like I'm thinking they do two weekends that are exactly the same for this purpose. They get everyone buzzed. They must keep some tickets on reserve. Surely. To see Gaga's performance, I would probably drop two grand. Oh yeah, easy. I'm speaking as if I've got two grand to my name, but I would. I'd just drop it and I

would deal with the consequences later. Maybe a hundred. To see Abracadabra and to Judas. Sorry. Yes, I would. Judas, Judas. She is iconic. Epic. Yeah. So listen, for real, if anyone's working in marketing and has access to brands that take people to Coachella, next year...

We're your girls, what do you need from us? What do we need to do to get there? You want me to wear more micro shorts? I can. You want me to up my following? I'm trying. We're trying. We're on our hands and knees, okay?

We're begging out here for followers. It's so embarrassing. I just actually think the most amazing thing about it would just be walking amongst the celebs. They just walk around. Kylie, Jen and Timothy with his bloody backpack. What has he got in there? What the fuck? What would he need in that backpack? Honestly, I could not tell you one thing.

They're not even with the kids. It's not like he's carrying the nappy. It's like what? They're surrounded by guards. But guards aren't guards. Soldiers. Security. They've got security. Yeah, they've got security.

They've got entourage and he's carrying his backpack. He's a genius, Timothy Chalamet. I think he does everything for PR. I was just about to say. There'll be nothing in that backpack. He's trying to appear normal. But it did look full. Yeah, I bet he stuffed it with tissue paper because he wants us all talking about what's

in Timothée Chalamet's backpack. You're right. He's a genius. Yeah, you are right. It's like the line bike. Oh, Timothée Chalamet drives a line bike. Guys, last night, right, we went to Clueless, which actually I recommend to a girly night out.

Yeah, I agree. I think it's fun. It's fun. It's really well done. Listen, guys, it's not going to mentally challenge you. I kind of forgot how little happens in that film. How they managed to string a whole fucking film out of that. There was a moment where I was like,

we could wrap this up in ten. Yeah. Because I know what's going to happen. Like, the new girl's going to become like a cocky bitch, and then the old girl's going to get jealous, and then they're going to make friends again, and then everyone's going to fall in love with the right people. 40 minutes tops, it could be.

It's all it needed. It could have been a one hour... In and out, no interval. But the production was so good and the costumes were so amazing, that actually it didn't matter, it was nice to just sit and watch. Doesn't matter that the story was dull. I only like the big numbers though, that's my problem. I don't like the sad songs, I'm zoned out. Oh, I quite like them. And there were a lot of big numbers, so that's why I enjoyed it.

The guy, the main guy, his voice was phenomenal. Josh. Josh. Could listen to him sing all night long. He did some, also the lyrics of the songs are so like unbelievably stupid. Yes. They're hilarious. Yeah, they're hilarious. And the outfits are unbelievable. The outfits are ridiculous. I do forget, I love a musical theatre boy actually.

Like a straight one. Do you think he was... I was thinking that last night. But when they can sing like that, Pam Poopy used to be like that back in the day. Did he go to drama school with you? Yeah, he went to stagecoach with me when we were like kids. But I remember watching him do, oh what's it called, Spring Awakening. I've honestly never felt more horny in my life.

Really? Him singing, because they're so dark, Spring Awakening, and he's sitting, ah, so good. Anyway, my real gripe is with TFL, sorry. Go on. Because I got, I missed my stop, Waterloo, to get the overgrounds of Clapham Junction. So then I went all the way to Clapham Common Common and from there I have to get a bus. I can walk but I had cowboy boots on that weren't very comfy actually, they were quite high. I get up, I see the 37, I think lovely, God is blessing me.

D-Direct Diversion. No, I get up to the door, he just shuts the doors in my face. And I'm like, doesn't even look at me, shuts the doors, driver. Those bus drivers. What's that? No, I agree. Why does he hate me? The other day I was just purely asking him because I got on a bus and I literally went

20 minutes the wrong way. No. I don't remember where I was going. Where were you going on the bus the wrong way? I was trying to go home but I ended up in Brixton. Oh dear. It's all gone wrong. And I went to the bus driver and I was like, sorry, does this bus not go back to the common?

As if I was a ghost. He didn't even turn to look at me. Didn't even register that I was talking to him. That's wild. And I just am like, I know like you're trained to ignore people. Is that what it is? Are they told? Was it during the bus? No, it was at the stop. Was he driving or was it at the stop? You just knock on that glass and say excuse me.

No, babe, excuse me. But I think that they've been trained now because people are so abusive to bus drivers. Abusive. That they've just been trained to ignore everyone. But I'm like, I'm just a girl. Yeah, I'm just a girl asking a question. I'm just a girl going the wrong way. I'm literally so far away from my house, sir. Could you just not help me out a bit?

I was honestly just a girl trying to get on the bus. I didn't even say anything, didn't open my mouth. I just kind of went to walk on and then the next bus came, same thing happened again. And I was like, do I smell? Do I look drunk? What's happening? I don't understand. I'm happened again. And I was like, do I smell? Do I look drunk? What's happening? I don't understand. I'm not drunk and I showered today.

Like, why am I not being let on? What did you do then? I waited 15 minutes. I couldn't find a line bike for love and all money and I couldn't be asked to walk. So then I waited 15 minutes and I just read powerless. And then the bus came and they let me on. Wow. Yeah.

So it made my journey like maybe like 40 minutes longer than it needed to be. No, I agree. Bus drivers have really got it in for the regular folk. Yeah, really. Congrats on 250k. Thank you. Finally. There's one thing about you you're going to complain about. Because Linda, I'll tell you what happened. Linda Reed, shout out Linda.

My mum. Bought these 250k balloons, right? She had them hanging around for three weeks because she thought we were going to hit them three weeks ago. She was convinced that it would be the weekend that she came up for Mother's Day. She was like, perfect. So we're going to need them in the flat. To be honest with you. Perfect.

And then she thought on, well actually she had them before that because she thought it was going to be when we did the show. I thought it was going to be before the show. That was a month ago. Oh no. So then my mum's been carrying around these balloons. And then just so happens when we hit it was the day that she was in the office in Southampton. So this poor girl, Alex, who only works three days a week for them. Had to blow up these balloons.

Had to blow up the balloons with my mum. And my mum was making her run around the office to show excitement. Rich will send you a pic so you can see the picture. Yeah, by the photocopier. She's absolutely wild. She's mental. And then when they got home, she like put them all away. She did like an Easter egg hunt around the garden, but with the balloons. And then it like ends with my like old dad holding the 250k balloons. I showed her all that picture and she was like, oh my God, she's her dad.

Oh no! My dad was like an old man in that picture. You do have the same picture. Yeah, no, I'm way more... It's so weird because me and my mum are so similar, like mannerisms-wise, but me and my mum, I definitely look like a read, for sure. Yeah, it's interesting. I saw... I can't remember how I saw your dad,

but obviously on your socials. And he doesn't look as old as you guys make him up to be. But he is old. No, some pictures. Sometimes he like catches the light, right, and he doesn't look that old. Yeah, in your selfies. Listen, he doesn't look... No, he looks good for his age. Yeah, yeah, yeah light right and he doesn't look that old. Yeah, in your selfies. Listen, he doesn't look, no he looks good for his age.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, he doesn't look... He's 82 year old man. No, he doesn't look, he doesn't look, you know. How old is he? Is he 82 or 83? I actually never know. What year was he born? All I know is that he turned 80 on the year that I broke up with Colin. That was four years ago. No, that was two... Four years ago, was it?

No, that was... Guys, I'm so single. Sorry, I'll save this for another rep. I'll stop talking about it. Sorry, what year was your dad born though? 42 maybe? Was that around one of the wars? Yeah, he got evacuated. We talk about this all the time. During the war. Where did he go? The countryside?

He went to Norton, yeah, the countryside. And then that's where we've lived ever since. We talk about this all the time. We've lived ever since. So he went a bit glossed through then. So he fully, you know, was evacuated and now like, watch how GPT is taking over the world. Like the shit that that happens. When he sometimes understands me, I think, epic, good on you. Because like, how are you, how are we existing in the same lifetime?

It's bizarre. Like fully, when I say to him about it, like he cannot get his head around the fact that we make money. Like the only question recently he really asks me is like, so are you two making any money? Like, and I've explained to him so many times, I've shown him the figures, he does not get his head around it. He thinks, and to do what? Yeah, of course, babe.

He doesn't get it. Of course, obviously. And he watches our numbers more than you. No. My dad. It's like a fucking status report. He has it on his desktop, open, our TikTok, and he refreshes it. The other day he told me to the number what we had.

Something like 248.1. Yeah, when we were getting close to 250, he was telling me the exact decibel point. He's so funny. And then also, over Christmas, I don't know if you saw that video, Big Mid Energy. Yeah. And I'm not joking, it was probably 0.9 seconds of a clip. He clipped his own bit and he put it on his Facebook page. As in everybody else is not involved in this.

Not involved, yeah, just him. Him going, your dad's gone mad off of cannabis. Yeah, he loved it. He's brilliant. He's like a G. Yeah, what a G. Shall we? Go on. No, we loved it. He's brilliant. He's like a G. Yeah, what a G. Right, shall we? Go on, Tro.

No, we didn't. Welcome to Sleeper Message. This is the podcast by the galleys. Oh, the galleys. Also, we must say shout out to Kiki and Rianne that we met. Kiki, do you love me? That we met at Clueless. They messaged us this morning.

So sweet. And they also set us up with some free snacks, which we're always grateful for. We were so grateful, I literally inhaled them. I just want to say, she was slagging off fruit pastels. Who ate the fruit pastels? I had one. You had?

I had one. You did not have one? I had one, perhaps two at a push. But I did not have, because they taste like medicine. Yeah, they do, that's why they're so yummy. Pang it. Pang it. I don't like it getting stuck in my teeth. I, they do. That's why they're so yummy. Panger! I don't like it getting stuck in my teeth. I'm trying to watch the show and I'm like...

Ow, my thruster tongue. Sorry. Anyway, yeah, this week the galleys will be called... Kiki. Cher. Oh. Kiki. Great, Kiki.

Yeah. I feel like we've had Cher before. I think we must have had Cher. Okay, we've never had Kiki. Do you believe? I've actually got musical Tourette. I have actually. I should go and get tested for that.

Kiki, do you love me? Hit me. Maybe. One more time. Hi, girls. Sorry for the voice, I've got a cold. But I've got, hopefully, a short story for you. Not my proudest moment, I've got to admit. Telling my friends about it this week has made me feel like the most anti-girls girl

girl on the planet. So I was out on St Patrick's Day celebrations and I met this guy and ended up going home with him. And the thing is, it wasn't his house. He was staying with a friend. He's actually from like Essex or something. So he was staying at his uni friend's house. And in this house, I was told that it was three girls and one boy. So I assumed that when I woke up in the morning morning and I went into the bathroom to sort myself out so I could look presentable to go home, the bathroom would have the necessities that you need. So when I got into said bathroom after a rough night, I had some interesting bodily fluids in, let's just say noticeable places, but there was no makeup wipes, no cotton pads, no toilet roll, not even a tissue, not even a towel, nothing. Nothing. So all I could find was some poor girl's exfoliating glove.

And I really, really, really hope that she never hears this. But if she does, then I'll just say, desperate times for desperate measures. I'm terribly sorry, but it did save me because I actually ended up having to go into work straight from his. So if it wasn't for that exfoliating glove, I think I'd be fired. Love the pod. And I just want to know if I'm actually the most evil person alive. Love you. I actually think that makes you a girl's girl. Because like, you know, they're like, if that other girl is a girl's girl, she knows you're in need. You're in dire need.

Don't worry about it. No. No. Disgusting. No. What the hell? Rohana, what else was she to do? You cannot enable this. Okay, listen, she didn't use her, like, her, I don't know.

An exfoliating glove is quite intimate. Think about where you exfoliate. That's been in between some flaps. Yeah, that's been flapping. That's been creasing. Yeah, that's not flapping. That's been creasing. Yeah, that's not ideal, is it? But bless her, because she had to rub it on her face.

Do you know how much that would have hurt? It's good for you. Exposing your face like that with a glove. I just thought you were talking about the cup. Oh, yeah. No, the bodily fluid apparently, what do they call it? A facial? No, no. They say you should bottle it. It's got very high amounts of protein in it.

Well, and apparently it stops men becoming toxic. Because if you discard their bodily waste, it makes it like... Yeah, it's your... Generates toxic masculinity or something. I'm meant to use it like a serum. Yeah. Have you guys ever done that before? Wrapped it all over my face?

No. Nope. That would be a wild question. No, like go to, for example, you're staying at someone's house or... Oh yeah, and use all their shit. Or you just go brush your teeth with someone else's toothbrush. Yeah, I would do that. I had a feeling you would.

I would never, over my dead body, would I use... What would you use your finger? Like if you woke up and you had to do a quick toothbrush, what would you use? Yeah, I'd put toothpaste in my mouth and just put some water in and just... I'd fully just pick a toothbrush, any toothbrush. She, no, but guys, she, babe, she's got like serious hygiene problems. It's not a problem. That is a problem.

I'm well. Who in their right mind, insane mental health would actually do that? I'm sorry. Well, no one said I was insane mental health, to be fair. That's debatable. But babe, I don't see the biggie. I've literally just had my tongue in every orifice that person has. And I can't use his toothbrush.

Okay, you want the bacteria from his teeth, like in between his teeth. I don't want the bacteria from his bumhole in my mouth either, but there it goes. There it goes. That's where it's supposed to be. There it is. In my mouth. I just think there's a difference in doing it goes. There it goes. That's where it's supposed to be. There it is in my mouth. I just think there's a difference in doing it sexually. Maybe it's because I've got like the ruster tongue that I'm like, I'm all in there. To do it in broad daylight. There's a difference, babe.

In the heat of the moment, to put your mouth where, you know, like if you were held up a mirror the next day, you'd be like, really, did I do that? To like actively choosing something to brush. I would do it in the morning too. Like I'm not... I'm not confined to midnight hours. I just think it's so germy. I just think germs. But there's... I'm putting like Colgate on it.

It's like basically disinfectant. Like I give it a rinse. Don't get me wrong, you know, when you go to some of those houses, like Grubby Boy's houses, and you're like the toothbrush is flat. Like I had that with wine gum and I was like, am I going to use that as flat toothbrush? I did because I was like, what else am I to do? I've used to like...

Would you not just wait till you go home to brush your teeth? Nah, stay your willy breath on the tube. I'd rather that than bacteria germy breath. No, not both. My mouth will kill the bacteria. My saliva in my mouth will kill it. Anything it doesn't like, it will just kill. This is coming from the girl that's got some major dental problems, guys.

So I actually wouldn't be... It's nothing to do with the gum. That just sounds like slut-shaming to me. It wasn't about the gum. It was about using other people's toothbrushes. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't think that gives you gum disease. I don't know. Any doctors? I think maybe... What if they have gingivitis? Can you get... Conductivitis through your mouth? Gingivitis. Oh, gotitis? Can you get... Conductivitis through your mouth?

Gingeritis. Oh, got it, sorry. Can you pass gingivitis through the mouth? I don't even, I've never heard of gingivitis. That's what you've got, isn't it? Enflamed gums. Not anymore, because I floss so much. Can you catch gingivitis?

Let's see. Guys, I've used a full rag before to clean myself. One that they use with like, Auntie's back. The bacteria that causes gingivitis can be spread from one person to another. Whoa. Via toothbrush. Saliva to saliva, like kissing or sharing utensils. Well exactly, and you've just snogged them all night, so if you're going to get it, you've got it.

That is true, but also... What's the difference? I just think like, would you not like, not take the risk again? But if you just think about the actual thing that you're like fearing, which is the transference, that does happen via snogging. This is what I think about general, like if I was single now, I genuinely think that would be my biggest issue. Like the germs in people's mouths freak me out.

Like, Paul doesn't not have germs just because like you know him. Obviously, but like I've just, I think maybe... You got used to his germs. Yeah, like his germs aren't gross to me anymore. I just never think about germs. Like honestly, I think I don't think I've ever spent a second thinking about germs. I grew up, well, this is an interesting topic because I do think you grew up, like you grow up aware or not aware and I definitely grew up aware of germs.

Like my mum is like a germ, like a germaphobe. Not, not that, like not to that extent, but like, yeah, we're aware. Like first when you come through the door, you have to wash your hands first thing. 100% or like your phone disinfects. Not to that extent, but yeah, we're aware. First, when you come through the door, you have to wash your hands first thing. 100% or your phone, disinfected, didn't get in. Yeah, and my mum in bed... No shoes in the house. My mum...

No, no shoes in the house. No, my mum in bed... She's in the bed. True. ... her phone like this, and she's got a special touch glove because the germs from the outside, she doesn't want in her bed. No, no, no.

This is what I mean. I think you either grow up or wear or not. Like, obviously you would never put a suit, like if you put a suitcase on the bed in my house, you'd be sent to like... Bags? Yeah. I was the one friend at uni, no one would come to my accommodation because everyone's like, oh, Rohana is just so like, no, you're not getting on my bed with your outside clothes.

I have that with Rohan. You cannot, if you're wearing jeans, you don't, you dare sit. Okay, on the bed is okay, but if he even so much as tries to sit anywhere near the sheet in his dirty work clothes, no. Wow, I have never, I cannot relate. Yeah, I think the people who don't think about germs live longer. I have this theory too, because I think we build immunity. Yes. Because I'm pretty germy.

Probably. And I do have quite a strong immune system. And well it is, isn't it? Because that is even more like a flu jab is. They give you the flu to fight the flu. So like it kind of, it adds up if you ask me. Like touching the pole on the tube, I would never, I would always. I have by a handstand. I wouldn't even do that. I wouldn't, like I I... The thing is, in some instances, I don't really mind. Like, it's not a blanket rule for me, but like chicken grosses me out. So many germs on chicken. Why though?

I don't know. Just, I just have a think about chicken. No other me. Like, I am a bit weird about it, yeah. I think I maybe just don't worry about things I can't see. And I think that's how I move through the world. If I could see germs, maybe then I'd worry. I think that would give me a lot of confidence. What's interesting though is that I don't worry about things I can't see. And I think that's how I move through the world. If I could see germs, maybe then I'd worry. I think that would give me a lot of confidence.

What's interesting though is that I don't worry about... Like during COVID, I didn't... I wasn't bothered. You see, that's weird, isn't it? I'm neither was my mom, like not bothered at all. You'd have thought that you'd have become like, you know, you'd... But maybe you were bothered, but it didn't feel like bother to you because you do those things anyway.

Yeah. Like washing my hands isn't like weird. Yeah. Whereas I had to like start washing my hands. This was cool. Okay, Martyn, let's try one. Remember big. You got it.

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I have a dilemma for you. I'm currently in sixth form at an all-girl school. A few months ago, my best friend Katie was in a relationship with a guy, we'll call him Joe. He goes to the all-boys school nearby. Joe and Katie were talking for a few weeks until a different girl reached out to Katie and told her she was Joe's ex-girlfriend and that throughout the relationship he was cheating on her and sending news to multiple other girls. Katie confronted Joe and he admitted to doing it but immediately afterwards he went around and told everyone the opposite, that Katie and other girls had been cheating on him and sending news of themselves to other boys. Anyway, those boys are prick but my dilemma is that my boyfriend, call him Sam, is best friends with Joe. Sam continuously defends Joe even though he knows that what he did was wrong and

that the police were involved with him. Sam's a good person and I love my best friend so much but she doesn't want to hang around me when I'm with my boyfriend because he's friends with Joe. Please help me. My relationship with Sam is still going strong, but it pisses me off that it's damaging my friendship and that he's friends with Joe the way he is. I don't want Sam to have to ditch his best mate, but he is such a prick. But I love the pod galleys. Keep it up.

I would really appreciate some help. Hi babe. Sorry, I just have one question. So, Katie is your friend and what's this guy's name? Sorry, Jo. Jo. Jo. And Jo's ex-girlfriend got in contact. Yes, with Katie.

Yeah. Okay. And said he was cheating on me the entire time. And he was sending my news to everyone else. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're friends though. The girl, Jo's ex.

The ex-girlfriend. They're all the same school. Okay. Now, Jo's ex. The ex-girlfriend. They're all in the same school. Okay. Now she doesn't want to hang out with her boyfriend. With Kiki too. Because Kiki too's boyfriend, Sam, is mates with Jo and is defending his poor behavior, which is just like...

Very questionable, I have to say. Because I think there's one... It's one thing to be friends. To hold your friend accountable for their bad behavior. Yeah, and there's another to defend it. Very different. Because you can hold them accountable and stay friends with them. There is an argument for that, obviously.

But to defend, that also puts you in a really difficult position, because it's not even like your boyfriend, Sam, is sitting on the fence. He's kind of picked a side. And it's like like, were you picked the side of the wrongdoer? Wild. That would be a massive problem. Because I think it speaks so much about what you believe and like how you see, to be honest with you, any male treatment of feet of women. Yeah, because also like, yeah, defending that behavior. I know, I'm sure if you look to a boyfriend in the eye and you said, right, so you think you can do that to me? He'd be like, obviously not. But in the same breath, he is defending his friend. And it's like, you know, there's always a defense. There's always a reason. Everyone's always got a reason.

But you can't say that that is good behavior, because it's just not. It's like bang out of order. Yeah. And it was bad enough for your friend to like, because it's just not. It's like bang out of order. Yeah. And it was bad enough for your friend to like no longer be with him. This is what I think that you could say. Basically that is that like, if you want to be friends with him and stay being friends with him, that is your prerogative. And like, that is obviously within your right to be.

Number one, I don't ever need to be around him. Yeah. And number two, there's a difference just because you're friends with him doesn't mean that like you can't speak out against him. Yeah, it's like understanding why that like refusal to say to your friends. Boys don't understand nuance, that's why. Because he thinks, if I'm friends with him, I have to defend him. If I'm having a go at him, I can't be friends with him. He's being ride or die, but the police were involved.

Like it was bad. Yeah. Like it obviously like tires you with the same brush sadly. So why would you want to be tired with that brush? That makes no sense to me. Yeah, I think that you need to... What was your question? What to do?

What do I do? So, sorry, this was such a like reductive way to do it, but it's like you're now being forced to pick between your friend and your boyfriend. I don't think you need to pick between them if your boyfriend can see reason and see... It's different if you were staying friends with Joe, obviously, but it is your boyfriend. He isn't... Even though you're together, he's not a part of you. His decisions are separate to yours.

So I know your friend is uncomfortable with it, but at the same time, you cannot control your boyfriend's actions. This is what I was going to say more like, I don't obviously have this exact scenario, but some of Rawls friends, let's say hypothetically, if I didn't like one or some of them, I can't stop him from doing that. But what I can do is put a boundary in of how it affects me. Yeah. Of like, I'm telling you now I will always decline those invitations or we, me and my friend will now never be around you. Yeah, right. And that makes like X difficult.

It's hard though because like if he is defending the behavior that for me would be the sticking point. Me too. I'd be like, listen, I'd say to my friend, I'd be like, listen, Sissy, I don't know, I still want to be friends with them but but I think we can get over that and I'll just keep away from you. But within my relationship, I'd be a bit like, I've had it, like I actually had it with Colin, like not badly, but he had a friend who he was very close to and like had to spend a lot of time with. His behavior was appalling towards his partner and we all knew about it. And I really struggled with the fact that he was never called out for it. Did Colin like support, like, would come to jump to his defense?

Sometimes he would say stuff about the partner. Like, you know when you can say like, oh, well, they haven't been intimate for X amount of time. And I'd be a bit like, that's not what you do. He can cheat on her. I don't think so. Like I didn't, it didn't sit well with me at all. Like I do think it causes friction because of course, obviously, when you have these lofty conversations about other people,

you relate them back to your own relationship. And if you don't think that behavior is bad, oh, what, sorry, if I don't shag you for six months, you're allowed to go and shag Susan. I don't fucking think so. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Sorry, I got a bit passionate there. Yeah, but that's what I mean. I think it speaks volumes about your own personal belief.

It's a conversation to have with your boyfriend. 100%. Because I think in reality, it's easy enough to keep them apart. I don't think that's the end of the world. I think. And also, I think you can just explain to your friend, like, listen, I'm going to try and really unpick with him why he's defending him and why he thinks that's okay. And then I'm going to make my own judgment call on whether I think that that's bad enough to not be with someone that supports that kind of behavior.

Yeah. Literally. It's that deep, girls. Because it does tell you all you need to know really. It's a bit of market research, the way they speak about other situations. That really is hard though. Really hard. Especially like, I mean, to be honest with you, in this instance as well, if the police are involved, like, it's bad enough. Do you know what I mean? Like, there's no hiding from the facts. I don't know how Sam could ever be like, no

but, no but, no but. Maybe he's really defending like the kind of guy that he is now. Like he would never do that again. He knows it's wrong. He's not a like villain, la la la. Like defending him as a person, like now as a person who made bad behavior choices, which is kind of different because then at least you're acknowledging. That's what I mean. All you need to do is acknowledge. You can still say, as in Sam could still say, I do still want to be his friend. Yeah.

But I think his behavior was disgraceful. Because like I do think if you like cheated on Paul, I would still be his friend. Yeah. But I think his behavior was disgraceful. It's like, I do think if you like, cheated on Paul, I would still be your friend. Obviously. Do you know what I mean? So it's like, it's not like a blanket rule of like, Sam has to axe Joe. But I think if someone asked you,

what do you think about Ali cheating on Paul? You'd be like, yeah, obviously not great. Yeah, I wouldn't be like... You wouldn't be like, well, she was in her right, you wouldn't say that. So proud of her. I get it, girl. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Like, it's not so black and white, is that? It's not going to be like, but then I would get defensive of you. Oh my god.

As would I. I would. I think the problem is, is because Jo's aired on the side of like, really toxic, like, illegal behaviour. It's not just cheating if he's been like leaking and sharing news of his partner. Like that is horrendous. So yeah, but I do understand that when you've got a friend who you love and you feel like you really know them, but they made a bad decision,

it can be quite easy maybe to get defensive. But it's like, there's a difference maybe between being defensive of your friend and being defensive of their actions. Or their behaviour, yeah. And those are two different things. Yes, exactly. You've got to sit your boyfriend down, I think, and have a little chin-mark about this.

Good luck, babe. Let us know how you get on. Shall we have a question of the week? Shall we have a round-up first? Oh, sorry, yeah. Okay, voice note number one. I think you are a girl's girl. I'm not worried about you. I'm not worried! Using that exfoliating glove. I think you were resourceful. I think you adapted and

overcame the situation. I genuinely think that human evolution will favour the girls that can find things in those moments when no one else can. Like genuinely, that is a test of survival. Finding shit in those bathrooms. Rihanna's literally like, absolutely not. Would you have left? Like just dirty. It depends how far you've got to go, because I've done that before.

I would literally get straight in an Uber and I would just go home and shower. You could just rub it in. No, it's gone crusty by then, baby. It's gone flaky. Just water. Yeah. Because then it congeals.

And then get a cab. So she's just leaving. So I'm the driver. Yeah, and he's not worried about how you look like or where you've been. This is, I think, the difference is like, I'm not bald. I would just leave looking like a bedraggled, like, cummy mess. I guess it depends how much you like him, because if you wanted to go back in, maybe a bit around to, maybe a little snog,

then you do want to get yourself a beard in order. Yeah, fine. She had to go straight to work. You're not doing a full day in the office with a mask. Or you could just go back into the room, hey, like, you know. Got a wipe. Yeah, do you have anything that I can take this off with? Yeah, true. That's good.

All what I do is I'd go, I'd leave. Go to boots. Before work. You can find a lot in boots. I think you could do that below £10. Make yourself look really good. Easily. And if you're running late, just say, oh, I'm like just running late.

I'm running late today. Trains are all over the place. I always say that. And then Kiki number two. Yeah, you've got a bit of a sticky situation there because you're piggy in the middle. And that's never a nice place to be. It's not really piggy in the middle though,

because I think you don't really need to manage Katie and Sam's relationship. They can just not have one. Yeah. Yeah, and that's fine. All you need to manage is your, in my opinion, your relationship with Sam and his questionable... Defense of system. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Time for Question of the Week. It's a defensive system. Yeah. Time for Question of the Week. This one I'm really intrigued because I know that I'm obviously the odd one out in the room. Would you share a toothbrush?

What do you think the girls said? I've just seen it. Don't look. I knew it already though. I would have told you 95% of people said gross. 79% said gross and 21% said yes, what's the problem? I can't believe how in the minority I am. I wouldn't even think twice.

I buy but I can't believe it. I don't know what everyone's problem is. It's toothbrush. I don't get it. I have a friend. Go on. I have a friend who slept over at a boy's house and obviously had a nice time. And in the morning, she, Eddie had housemates and in the morning, she obviously had,

I think she went for round two and things were still... Needed to have a little wash. Yes. And she got someone's towel, like hand towel and just... I've done that. I've used a hand towel before to wipe the bits. What else am I to do? I just drip it dry. I would cut and then I would just get the edge of the hand towel, a little tap tap. I wouldn't rub, I'd tap. Yeah fine, I would do that. I wouldn't put like a full wipe. Like full, this full wipe.

No, I wouldn't do a full wipe. No, but I'd tap. I'm probably not doing the full undercarriage. No. No. But I'd tap. The toothbrush thing, sorry, I will take it on the chin that I'm gross and weird, but I genuinely doesn't even cross my mind. You will live to 100. I think so too. With no teeth probably, but oh well.

Okay, we asked, are you a girl's girl? And can you give us examples of when you've been a real girl's girl? Because I feel like with girl's girls, it's just like if you know you know like you know a girls girl you just know I agree you just know when someone's not do you know what I mean yes I do because you can just feel their energy totally back up my girls and arguments this is what we always say and we've actually just contradicted ourselves massively because even if our girls are in the wrong we'll be like no she's well within her right and I will fight for you. Defended someone's name when someone is chatting shit about them behind their back. We say this all the time.

Even if I think she's the worst person in the world, only I'm allowed to talk shit about her. Yeah, I can say that behind closed doors, but in front of everyone else... She's an angel. I'm defending you. Always making friends with girls in the club bathroom. That's a girl's girl. Yes.

I just know I'd rather my boyfriend break up with me than lose all my girlfriends. Hell yeah, guys. Girlfriends are forever. Boyfriends are just temporary. This is really good. I had this massive crush, but a girl from work expressed her interest and I backed off. That's quite nice because then you're not going into competition.

Yeah, that is nice. And you fall on your sword and you thought, listen, don't fancy him that much. I'm not going to fight you for him. Always choosing my girls over a last minute plan with a boy. Yeah, that's nice. Calling out my best friend's boyfriend when he makes fun of her in front of his friends. Why is he doing that?

Yeah, really good. I like that too. I don't like that. No, they do do that sometimes. They do belittling jokes. They think it's funny and I just think that's not funny. Find... Guys, as Amy Lou said, comedy is comedy, not bullying. Okay? Last one. I went to the gym to spy on my sister's ex and the girl he was with for my sister. Really good. Really good.

Girl's girl. Girl's girl. Thanks, everybody. Epic! Thank you, everyone. What a brilliant episode, if I may say so myself. Keep your voice notes coming, please. Don't get lazy on voice notes submissions, okay? Rihanna's got nothing better to do

and God forbid a girl has a hobby. She loves it, okay? Love you all, see you next week. Thanks guys. Bye! Bye! Thanks for watching!