Leave A Message with Ally & G - G's SECRET Love Island Cousin!! And We're Toe Suckers?!

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

Things take a seriously freaky deaky turn on Leave A Message this week as Ally and G accidentally expose far too much about what goes on behind closed doors after a very unexpected conversation about toe sucking. G also drops the bombshell that she's related to a Love Island LEGEND.PLUS, one Gally's relationship comes crashing down after she discovers her boyfriend has a SECRET sister, while another is at breaking point over her mum's blatant favouritism towards her brother.FANCY SENDING A VOICENOTE/MESSAGE GALLY? Send your voice note to: https://wa.me/message/UH4DASEKPFQBA1 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Oh, and don’t leave out ANY of the juicy details!)OR, you can write us email an on [e-mail] us at @leaveamessagepodcast on socials!Listen every Wednesday wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Ali and G will be here in just a moment. And before we get into the latest galley drama, we've got your next listen sorted, The Jack and Ash Show. Jack Remington and Ash Home have a whole host of ghoulish antics that'll have you laughing out loud, including Ash questioning whether her opinions are being influenced by watching too much loose women.

Search for the Jack and Ash Show and get the podcast lined up to play next. Oh, you've reached. Leave a message with me, Ali. And me, G. This is a podcast. where we help the galleys in need. Whether you're still confused while you're debating

on behalf of youths in Asia. Or your workplace crush isn't just flirting with you. He's got a girlfriend who. This is the podcast for you. Welcome back. Guys, we're fresh from Harry Styles night two for us,

night ten for Harry. If you were there also on those nights. I have to... When he came out, I thought, bloody hell, you must be so bored of this now. Yeah, it's corduroy on. But then I said to Al,

imagine all the MT girlies. No, no. I genuinely have nothing but admiration for those girls. Eight shows a week. That on a Saturday, they must be sick to death. Yeah, it's the Saturday and the matinee day. Double day. Boring. Not right, that.

So bored. Not right. There must not be one girl in MT who has ADHD because those girls, they wouldn't last. You get bored after doing it once. No, but then maybe because you're like so in routine, you can almost like clay in the framework at the routine because it's so, like, you know so much.

It's so exhausting. Yeah. Like, it costs your body so much. No, no, Harry Stiles, I bet is booked into some kind of like bougie-ass retreat after this. I bet him and Zoe are going to get hooked up to Ivy Mushrooms. Sis, he was at Soho Farmhouse. Classic. That's where he was.

Ivy Mushrooms. He's got to be doing mushrooms at that. He's doing so much microdosing. No defamation to Harry Starr's. Allegedly he's microdosing mushrooms. Allegedly he's microdosing mushrooms like literally just before he goes on stage. Allegedly, he's dropping pills. Allegedly.

Allegedly, when he puts his sunglasses on, he is dropping pills, yeah. Last night he didn't do it. But then the first night we saw him, he did this whole ramble chat about all the people he's met in the clubs over the last two years. And how, like, dancing has become, like, his identity in his life. And it's, like, saved me, like, being there on the dance floors, sweaty bodies being held by the people that I met for one night and one night only. And I thought, pills. Mushrooms. It's like on hinge when they say, occasionally pills.

Sometimes pills. Oh, I think it's more than occasionally pills for him. I think it's often pills. But then he's also running marathon, so I think it can't be often pills. Do you know, I don't think that that's a barrier to entry. I don't think, I'm not, I'm personally not Ophay with pills. I'm also not Ophofe with marathon running.

But I don't think that they're mutually exclusive. Do with that way you will. I'm not okay. I think you can take a pill and run a marathon. Not on the same day, but like I don't think that like, it's not like smoking, which like it impairs your lungs. Right, I see what you're saying. live a life and do both. I just think like lifestyle-wise, like, you've got to be cut from a certain

cloth to be like Spencer Matthews running and like Harry Styles clubbing pills. Like I do think Maybe it is it strictly mushrooms then? Yeah, it's strictly herbal. Herbal. Yeah. It's herbal in a deep bag. It's nature's path. Yeah. This is by the by guys. We have had our week. I don't even know where to start. I'll tell you the best thing to come out this week. Go on. We got famous off our feet. Did everyone see that? Is everyone looking now, free foot content. I post, well, we posted this video that's actually really old and like,

it's just been sitting in our camera roll. Yeah, it was from the launch of the book. Yeah, we had nothing to really post. So I was like, oh, I was supposed that. And it was about how like, Hallie's basically got this thing where she thinks she's got nicer feet than me. I don't know where she's got this from.

I do. So then she asked, it's objective. You were saying, don't my feet look so nice? And I said, babe, see, even now, why do you have to do it like that? Because it's really good. Good for you to spread your toes. It's very yogic.

So look at me. I'm literally like a star student in like yogic stretching of my dog. She was telling me that she didn't need to get her toenails on and I was like, sis, if you're going to wear an open toe and people are going to be sitting front row, get to the fucking nail shop. Did I go? Yeah. Did I?

Yeah. And are these that nail set? I think they might be. Yeah. God bless. Yeah. My nailsets last for months. It's so good.

Anyway, we posted this video and all the foot freaks. came flocking. Flocking. They came in their massive. Do you want some of the comments? I've had texts from many, many people saying... You've had texts from many, many people. Okay, Taney, text me.

No, Holly text me. Tierney, my book editor, text me. Yeah. Saying, as if you're getting famous off your feet. Well, I know. Is this on TikTok or Instagram or by? You know what's even weirder? I watched a video the night before on TikTok,

one of those like spiritual witches, and she said, in the next seven days, you're going to go viral. And then I thought I was waiting And then I posted that And I thought right Okay but I want a bit more than more than that That's not viral

200K isn't viral 20 gorgeous toes Foot guy here You both have beautiful feet Fellow foot guy here No they don't Blonde 6 Brunette 4

Both are not bad Just need a touch up Ha ha ha Striped shirt that's G Has way prettier feet I think they like the weirder looking feet Yes, that's what I said. They're like knobbly feet. Your feet are knobbly.

Mine are... Not knobily. Blonde is... Blonde. Where is your pinky toe? Oh yeah. I actually have got a bit of a weird pinky toe to be fair. Because I've got bunions.

Wow, you've both got beautiful feet. Ali has beautiful feet. 10 out of 10 for both of you, hashtag foot finder. So now we've got all these foot freaks following us. Striped girls toes, FTW for the win. Fantastic. The darker foot looks much better. Darker foot.

Oh dear. You can't be writing that. Oh, here we go. Girl with Red Striped shirt has very cute toes, but the other girl has beautiful feet and love the toe ring. Very sexy. Oh. Gross.

Camera op has beautiful feet. Those tan feet win. Great feet. Show them off. They are both tens. Okay. They're getting a bit excited, I think, like saying both tens. That's crazy.

Four out of ten at most. And then, move. And this is good. Both very good. both get sucked and massaged. Ugh. I don't mind it if the money starts to fly in. Where will I put our PayPal link?

Both are pretty suckable toes. Amen. I thought it was a gag that people liked feet. I genuinely never, I never understood that. Also, do you never have it when boys, like, always put your feet on their chest? Feet on the chest? Yeah, do you get that? Like, I'm going to have to demonstrate.

If you're on your back, and they will always, like, pull your feet up to put them, like, here on their chest. Do I get that? Sorry, say that again. Shagging weirdos. Oh, no, I would not do that. Fetreter activity. Feet like here on the chest. I have never done that.

Have you not? I would do that when I was like not having sex or more but he doesn't really like, he doesn't like my feet to be on his chest. Oh, he doesn't like that. Had that a few times and I've thought because I remember, I'm normally quite like good at being like in my body

having like no thought during, you know, the activity. But whenever my feet go up to the chest, I think, I hope they're okay up there. I've never ever understood the feet thing I just simply don't get it I think there's something in like taboo is sexy like you know the spitting in the mouth like it's a bit taboo

so I think there's something like sexy sucking toes is just so unhygienic I think that's why it's sexy because it's like I love you so much or I fancy you so much that I'll suck the dirtiest part of you that doesn't sit right for me I'm sorry I find that

I'm not here to kink shame anyone but I've I personally that does repel me. If someone asks me to suck a toe, I'd, of course, oblige. Of course I would. But you're fucked. So that's not a good ref. I'd say, don't shower and come right here.

Have you sucked a toe before? Yeah. I've done it. I've done it. I've never. Which toe do you go for? The big one. No, no, the second.

Obviously not the big. I don't know. Sometimes it's just like the whole... What do you mean? Sometimes, babe. You're talking about it like you're doing it on the reg. Sometimes. Sometimes my bumhole.

I've done it a few times with quite a few different colleagues. Collie. Not mine. Not us. Sorry. Hadi and Olivia. She's definitely start having to do it. Wait, what?

I don't understand how you do the second one. Well, you, that's because that's got like, the reason I would, if I had to suffer a toe. I would do the big one personally. I don't know where you're getting the second one. Or I involved the second one with the big one. This makes me sick out. I do both.

And I just like lick in between. Oh, my. That's disgusting. No, no. It's gross. It's just a tone. How do you? How do you get down?

I don't even have never done it. How do you get down there? You just get on your... Shimmy, shimmy, shimmy. At what point? Shimmy, shimmy. Is this before, like, penetrage? Yeah, I would say it's during kind of second to third base around there.

Maybe you're like kissing, maybe you're exploring the body, maybe you're stroking. And then you kind of like start like toe to head, I guess. So far down to go though. I can't even imagine it. It's not a joke. You've got to get right. You could be like actually on the floor and they could be on the bed, I guess. like almost like, you know.

But why would you do that? Just if someone asks, like, if they like that, I'd be like, cool. But you wouldn't just, I would hope that you wouldn't just. I don't include it in my normal repertoire, no. But like, don't you think there's like different like stages of repertoire that you pull out? Like you don't put all your tricks on the bands. I agree, but I wouldn't. Is that like even in your, like, is that?

Trick bag. It's definitely in there somewhere, yeah, because I'm not like opposed. So like, I am incredibly opposed. Would you say I'm not doing that? Yeah. even if they said it makes me feel so hot because I personally would rather do the sucking than be sucked genuinely that's how I feel.

See, I know I'm the opposite. So you'd be like fine if you must suck my toes on my toe. Then please, because I've got nicer feet. I just know I will have nicer feet than whoever I, whoever. My feet are much nicer. Cleaner. But you're okay because you have picked a fiancé that doesn't have a foot fetish. So you're fine.

But if he now asks me to suck his toes, I would say brother. you're going to have to go somewhere. Like, Aunt G, will do you have me. I would suck your toes. Have you not seen them on Love Island? They're all sucking each other's toes. It's just so gross. I just think, like, unless you're fresh out the shower

and, like, also, my main issue is that normally feet stink. Yeah, see, my feet don't smell. So maybe that's why. My feet smell. You have got some feet. I have 20 feet. Well, we stop talking about feet now, actually. It's making me feel little unwell.

It's giving you the ear. It's giving me the ick. Guys, football is continuing to come home. She's being very critical of our boys yesterday when we were watching the game. Can I just say, it wasn't just me, it was the whole of the fucking internet. And I think the internet needs to talking to

because I think you're all fair weather fans and your backseat drivers and, you know, you've got to, you don't, I don't come to your workplace and tell you when you're doing a bad job. Do you not? I just laugh along, force myself to have along.

I just think everyone is entitled to an opinion about England. Fair weather friend means that you don't support them when they lose. I always support them when they lose. No, but you don't. You see... Of course I do. But not really, because you're so mean. You were so mean yesterday. Poor Harry Kane would have heard the things you were saying about him.

I am the least of Harry Kay's problems. I know, but I do just think they've got a lot of weight on their shoulders. And you know, you want to say thank you for trying your best boys. Thank you for trying your best. But also, guys, we do have some of like the best players like, you know, that we're ever going to have. So what we're waiting for? Yeah, now or never. Now or never. Yeah. I read this article this morning about how like basically Harry Kane could actually be the best England footballer ever.

He's just really let down by his team. Absolutely, I agree with this. Because like, if he was playing with like world class players, like he would be up there. And who would be blaming for that? Thomas, Tommy Tee. No, just like, you know, the quality of like England.

Yeah, basically. Yeah. Well, a lot of pressure. He's not, I knew Tommy T's not coming back. Oh, I like him. No. I fear, I fear this is first and last. I fear if you.

Yeah. I fear if you get. Jeeke's did shit. They've been awful. I agree. And if you get knocked out on the next one, Who are we playing next? We don't know.

We're playing Mexico in Mexico. So I think we will be on a flight home. And it's a 1 a.m. start as well. And also, do you know this? The reason that it's hard to play in Mexico, so this is a football podcast is because the stadium is 2,200 meters

above sea level. So all the Mexican players are really adjusted to the altitude. And Thomas last night was like, it's going to be fucking difficult basically. Like they've got a massive advantage. Shit. Yeah.

Because like I think like the oxygen's really thin at that level. Yeah, that altitude. Yeah. Okay. So guys, football has a lot of, come home, don't worry, we're just like, you know, supporting. Manifesting, yeah.

Yeah, exactly. Absolutely. That brings us nicely to the World Cup of X. Okay, it is time for the semi-final. So this week, I am going to be fighting on behalf of tries too hard on Instagram. And I'm going to be representing sitting in the bath. If you listen to the previous episodes, you will know that we're fighting in defence of something else. Not allowed to use any of the points that have already been.

I was dating someone recently and due to natural causes that dating has come to an end. Now, I was quite Ophé with his Instagram activity whilst we were dating. Since our dates have ended, his Instagram activity has amped up like you wouldn't believe you'd think he was getting paid to post stories. And I think that is lame because I see right through you. I see what you're doing, what you want to put the late night picture up in a moody bar so I think you're on a date. I get it. I see what you're doing.

I think it's icky. And I think that you're trying too hard and thirst trap should be reserved for girls and only when you're on holiday or looking particularly fit. Otherwise, you should just do normal story. Fair min, really. Fair men.

Too many dumps going on. I also think we need to bring back less pictures. A dump doesn't always have to be 20 picks. And if a guy is doing a 20 pick dump more than once a year on his birthday, it's an egg. And that's how I feel about it. Also, can I just say, it gives like red flag because it's like you want to be watched by the girls that are following you. Yes, that's a good one. And I just think, suss, how many girls have you got looking at you?

Send them a WhatsApp. Send them a Snapchat, God forbid. But publicly on Instagram. It sounds like a broadcast channel. To be honest. Do you know what I mean? Just start up a group chat. I agree.

Honestly, because I just think the public forum is not for you. I think sitting in the bath is wrinkly because... It's wrinkly. I don't know. I was so sorry. Emma. I was so sorry what I wanted to say. Ah!

I just shrunked. Did you actually? You farsed. Guys, my defences are up against my own laughter in the Netherlands are so bad. You've got to practice your sphunger muscles. I often piss myself. Like actually, like, my wee does come out.

Oh, okay. Do you want to do that again? I believe that sitting in the barb is icky because there is no need to ever see anatomy that shriveled. And wrinkly. I mean, literally, I mean, sorry. Like, it's bad enough. you know out in the open water, sea pool, like I don't like to see that anyway.

But even then, it's extremely immature to be in the water so long that your skin wrinkles. It's more than that. The testicles literally go inside their body. Like, it's just... That was extremely graphic. I feel like I just saw that then. Babe, you literally just said to me how you're going to lick between someone's toes, and that's too graphic for you. I was just... Sorry, I had to do a TED talk on how to lick a toe for the girls. And I'm telling the girls out there on the street with foot fetidians.

It's just a 101. Sue me. I just think when the testicles actually retract into the body and then all that's left is just wrinkly,

saggy skin. Number one. That's just, that's just the testicles. The fingertips actually throw me. When a fingertip goes pruny, I do not like that at all.

Do you know what also goes pruny? Feet. Feet. Feet after you get out of the bath, don't look down. Honestly, waist down is just simply terrible. And do you know how I was,

because my husband is obviously John Stones? Like obviously you love her all so much, whatever. Guys, sorry, we had this hairstyle yesterday. God bless her sweet girl. I think she'd just been a bit busy and was a bit tired. But I'll like said that tongue and cheat comment but I obviously said it like so, seriously. She was like, obviously John Stones is my husband.

And this girl was like, really? Why are you not in America? I was like, oh, babe. I was like, oh, she's joking. She's joking. I have to say, oh, says she's joking. But if I saw John Stone sitting in the bath. Even then, you wouldn't want to have a show.

And he said to me, when you marry me, I would say, do you know what, John, I'm all right, actually. Honestly, I think just looking at you there with your shriveled, saggy, wrinkly anatomy. Yeah. Your wrinkled feet. Also, what I don't like about the bath is that, like, all the hair. I was going to say about the hair floats to the surface. And then when they stand up, it's like, storkly. sticks to them.

Oh, it's left. They leave you straight. That is awful. And think about the grime. You know, the grime on the side of the bath. If they're a bit filled. And you, this is what I'm saying. People don't know how dirty they really are until they sit in the fucking bath.

They don't. Amen. When you stand up and you see the black water and the grime rim around the bathtub. Who are you getting in baths? Raw straight from football, Al Dyson. Do you know what I mean, though? Come on, let me scrub your cast. When everyone's got out.

the bath and the water's been black. Sorry. Not, okay, black is strong. I think black is strong. Gray. It's been grey. It's murky. It's not fucking, you know,

sparkling clean. I'll tell you that. It's not San Peli. No. Right, fine. So, anyway, I just find that icky on many, many reasons.

I actually think you've convinced me. I think the bath should go through to the finals. I'm not a very good opponent here because for me, the Instagram thing is too much. If you started dating someone now who tried hard,

like sitting in the bath, he sat in the bath to be honest, I'd be like, oh, do you know what? We've all got to wash. Remove the bath. Get a walking shower instead. Yeah, fine. But the trying to add on Instagram

is a personality trait that you can't change. I genuinely do believe that. And I am speaking from experience. I actually find it so disgusting. I do. I find it disgusting. It's so fucking gross. What are you doing that for?

Guys, we were watching Shania Twain yesterday and she was singing that don't impress me much and I thought, you know what? I really do need to get that tattooed on my fucking forehead because I'm literally so easily impressed. wild. It's so bad. It's so bad. It's so bad. Right. I would know genuinely, so we think Instagram goes through. Okay. Trying to turn on Instagram through to the final. Okay, time for match two. I am representing Invisible Sox. And I'll be fighting for waving. Famously, if you listened to

last week's episode, Al didn't actually know what Invisible Sox was, so I might be able to do a better job. I actually think I could, you know, contribute to your argument here because I was witness firsthand to a man wearing invisible socks under his loafers. That's a wedding this weekend. And I just thought they're meant to be invisible. Yes. And what it is for me, there's two things. It's, you know, two parts here.

The first is the actual image of them going into a shop and looking for the invisible socks and then actually purchasing them. Yeah. Or sat on their soapy doing that online. Yeah. That makes me feel a little uneasy. Agree.

kind of psychotic behaviour. Like imagine watching your boyfriend go on hours and search men's invisible socks. Like that is... And imagine the images that pop up. Like imagine the images on many men's feet in basically what is thin ballet pumps.

I have to say. Yeah. And that for me is probably a little bit, you know, icky. And then secondly, it's the fact that invisible socks are rarely invisible. Most of the time you get a little glimpse and it's not a good one.

It's like they've popped a shower, cap or a condom on their foot and it's not where those things should be. It's terrible. They should be up top. Do you know what I mean? Okay. When it comes to waving, I've been doing some thinking about this. Yeah.

I just think you have to be a certain type of cringe to initiate the wave. You are eager, keen. You give desperate. You give over the top. And you do give embarrassing. Like, that is what my dad would do. Wave. Wave, express, anything really.

Feel, you know, a remote sense of excitement to see anyone. Like, I just think, why you're so fucking bothered? Well, I thought this the other day because I was walking along, mind in my own business, I get a call from Holes. I pick up, I go, you okay, says, cheers, I can see you. I turn around, I see that girl. She was waving. I literally couldn't help myself. Arm in the air, I was fucking thrilled to see her eye up.

And then I thought, what have I just done? Yes. I'm mortified. Mortified. Must put my hand out. Mortified. Because I just think. I quite like this.

Like if a date was approaching me, right? Yes. That's not a wave. This is a wave. Yes. Yes. That is giving creepy as fuck. Anything that could give you like doms.

Do you know what I mean? Oh, it's not right. I really take issue with it. Yeah. Because I also just think like, I like to move through the world. Jump scare. Jump scare. Jump scare.

Jump scare. Jump scare. Is it? Oh, jumpscare Wait! Sorry, guys What is this? Oh my God

Do you not know my pass code? You freak. Everyone will just start a text from someone Who's text you? The guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy that you should have ended it with? Yeah, he's just texted me. At 10 a.m. Oh my God!

Guys, I can't tell you that. No, that is awful. That is awful. So everyone listening, I promise. Stay tuned to leave a message in the next few episodes. I will talk about this. I just can't do. Also, let you make a public promise here that you're not going to do that.

Go on. No, babe, no. I'm not having it. Is he asking to meet up? Yes. Okay. You will pledge here. You will pledge here.

I pledge allegiance to the Leave a Message galley community that I will lead with integrity and with... That's not what I was looking for. And with, you know, I will showcase. good, healthy, grown behaviour and I will not do that. Good. Good. I pledge. I pledge. Okay. Anyway, sorry about me.

Right. That is just awful. I'm going to put in a bid for waving because I think if you can make, like invisible socks are a bit niche, whereas waving, like most people have waved in their lives. Not most people have worn invisible socks.

I actually don't agree. Again, I think invisible socks tells me so much about you as a person. Do you think? I think it's like... Also, I suppose someone could wave and make it look fine, whereas no one can make invisible socks look fine. Like, waving if it's like...

Yeah, or like... If you can tone your fucking excitement down for one second, like, what are you so excited about? I find it... Do you know, I find that, like, energy of like... I find that... You could never live in America. No, no, I do.

You know that. No, no, I know. That's why I find it. For an international woman, for a mixed race woman, You're very British. No, because in Asia, it's not like, they're so... Shh, I'm from Asia. I'm having Asia.

Okay, you know yesterday when she said APAC, I thought you won't know what that is. APAC. Because she was saying how everyone from like the US, the Europe, APAC. She did say APAC. And I thought she won't know what that means. Asia. Asia Pacific. Fine.

I did not know. I did not know. I thought it might have been like UAE. No, but... No, to be fair, sometimes... Yeah, I don't know, I just don't like the keenness Yeah, fine Okay, let's do it then

And Americans are like over friendly Actually, that's what I don't like It's like sometimes because sometimes it's fake Yeah, it comes across really disingenuous No, no, I know it is. With Americans, I think they're sincerely pleased to see you When you're not used to it It does come across like, yeah

So we're gonna put Invisible Sox through I think Invisible Sox. Okay, so in the final, we have got Tries Too Hard on Instagram and Invisible Sox Invisible socks Fuck Imagine you thought you met the love of your life Went home

He took off her shoes And you saw the socks You would have to leave I literally wouldn't bother me This is the problem I like have all these opinions And then like I get down to it And I think

You're telling me you go home You've had a lovely day You've been whined and dined He takes off his shoes And you see those condoms strapped to his feet And I would say Pop them off before you get down to it

Won't you And then I'd carry on with my business But like Pull out my bag of tricks Could you like you know, spend your life with that man, I don't know. Probably. I think there's many men I could spend my life.

I think this is the problem. We need to raise the bar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Working on it. Okay. Okay, join us in part two for your galley messages. Okay, galleys, welcome back.

Let's start with an email this week. Love. Hi, girls. I have a story about my ex-boyfriend. For Contest, I live in a small town where everyone knows everyone. There's already some problems here. hear you sister. When I was 16, I started seeing a boy from the year above. As far as I knew,

he had two half-brothers that he lived with and no other siblings. I used to work in a local shop and one day my boss casually asked about my boyfriend's sister. When I asked my ex about this, he was adamant he didn't have a sister. That's too weird. Why the fuck you lying about that? Then, later when I introduced him to my auntie, she said she worked with his mom and used to work with his sister too, which made me realize I'd actually met this sister before. Then one of my friends at school said his sister used to babysit her. At that point, it became pretty clear he definitely had a secret sister. Why? I didn't know whether to tell him because I didn't want to blow his whole family up, so I kept quiet until one day he got a text from a girl

revealing she was actually his half-sister. Everything exploded because he realized everyone knew accept him and because I'd known bits of the truth and said nothing, he blamed me and ended up cheating on me. What? What a rash decision that was. What a great jump. What an odd coping mechanism. Turns out his dad had previously been married and had a daughter, the secret sister. Then he had an affair with my ex's mum and secretly lived a double life pretending he was working away. There's too much working away. They need to take it. a little, you know, leave out of your book, a little bit of snap map action.

Why is everyone working away? That's not right. That's not right. His ex-wife and daughter eventually moved to the next street. No. Meaning his half-sister had literally been living behind him

his entire life. Oh, that is dark. That's very meta. Living behind his back. Yeah, babe. And this was all happening behind his back. His brothers knew the truth the whole time. And every Saturday on the way to football,

his dad would just drive the long way to wave at his secret daughter, telling my ex she was just a friend. This is fucked. I even found an old father's day card from the sister hidden in his dad's old car. Honestly, what the heck, thanks guys love the pod. Honestly, what the heck. Honestly, what the heck.

The poor boy that was just being kept in the shadows for no real reason. The problem is, if I had a secret sister that came about from like cheating and lying and deceiving. Yeah. Maybe I wouldn't want to know. Really? I mean. Because I just think it's not her for. But why she's a hung?

No, but the problem is that he found out, you know, by chance, like only because, like, to be honest, because of you. Yeah, because you did a little bit of sniffing. Whereas, like, he was living in blissful naivety all his life. But weird that he managed that when everyone seems to know that they're working at a shop with his sister, that that's his sister. Why don't you know that? Can I tell you this?

Actually, low-key happened to me. You're not secret sister? No, but I, living my life, happy go lucky, la-la-la. Anyway, one day I'm at my aunt Joes. And I'm like, sorry, I'm going so gloucester because I'm imagining her. I'm like, sat there, chat, chat, chat. It's when Love Island on, it's Chris and Kems year. And she goes, well, isn't it nice?

Your cousin Chris is doing so well. Oh, my God. Bearing in mind, I go to school with the Hughes boys. So, like, I know Chris Hughes and Hughes. I know them because we go to school together. There are a few years above me, whatever. I go, you are. Go, well, you're a cousin Chris.

He's on that Love Island. And I'm like, my cousin, I've been at school with him this whole time and his younger brother. And I'm like, sorry, we're related. I could have snogged him at a house party. Why did no one fucking tell me that's my cousin? Are you mad? And that is what happens when you grow up in the Cotswolds. Let me tell you, you're related to everyone.

But if you've had snogged him. It's probably in-advised but not illegal. Because I do know that he's not your first cousin. He's my dad. My dad. And his mama cousins. My dad and his own many, many, many, many. So he's like my second cousin.

If you were the royal family, definitely you could get married. Oh, it'd be so fun. And I actually don't think you'd be able to tell in our children. I don't. I don't agree. You don't look anything alike. No, but as in, I don't think there'll be any birth defects. Oh, I agree.

Yeah, I think we're far enough away. But still, like, you would have thought, like, when we went to school together, someone would have said, oh, by the way, that's your cousin. I have to say, as, you know, an Epo cousin, you've not had much of him. He literally ignores me now. Pretends I don't exist. Chris, you know, if you're going to see this. I'm desperate for him and Jojo in the car.

I literally messaged him. And I said to my aunt, will you ask, his mum? if Chris will come in the car. What did she say? Well, God bless, she's in her 80s. She's not quite, you know. She can't ask a question because she's iterating. She's just not like dead in it anymore.

She's not moving with the times, you know? She's not seeing the urgency of the need for Jojo Siwa in the backseat of our car. Chris and Jojo in the car would be fucking iconic. Iconic. I'm desperate. Okay, we'll work on that. Anyway, I'm just saying I resonate with this a lot

because growing up in a small town, this stuff can happen. No, no, I'm sure. And there is a lot of people shagging in small villages. Well, did we not all watch the documentary about that sperm donor? Of course we did. Who had like 200 children all within the same city because he was like basically like a fake... That was what... That's different though.

Okay, it's different. But like it's kind of all the same because you could be shagging, you could be married to your half brother and you don't even know you're married to your half brother. Yeah, yeah, that's not right. Anyway, I'm ever so sorry for your ex boyfriend, but you know, at least he's your ex. Yeah, thank God he's your ex. Not your fucking problem anymore. Also, what a way to return. retaliate just to shag someone because you're so upset and you can't process your emotions.

He was having a mental health crisis, too. Sure he was, but like grow up. Everyone's got to go to therapy. Right. Time for a voice note. Hi girls. I would love your opinion on something. It's something that's affected me for my whole life really and it's toxic boy mums. So my mum and my brother are very close. I used to think it was just favouritism, but I've come to realise actually this is quite a common thing with some mothers and sons.

Yes. don't we know. It's super uncomfortable. It's really weird. Like she's just always commenting on his appearance, how attractive he is and how musly he is. She wants to know the ins and outs of his sex life. What?

To the minute detail. And he seems to love telling her. It's just very odd. There's almost like a codependence in that way. Like he needs that attention from her, but also she like thrives on it. So she doesn't really know the bounds. boundaries there and I think she also just kind of sees him as an extension of her and everything that

he achieves or if he gets compliments from people on his appearance she sees it as a compliment to her and it's just a very toxic situation obviously he just gets away with everything and I'm treated much differently like I'm I've been teased by them too a lot just on like how I look um what I'm interested in my friends I haven't lived at home since I went to you. uni, I'm now 26, he's 28 and he still lives at home and I think my mum just can't ever bear the thought of him not being under the same roof. He had a girlfriend at one point and she did everything and her power to split them up, which worked. I think she just can cope with another girl loving him and wanting to be in his life. She wanted to be the only one and yeah, just wanted to do your thoughts

on this whole subject really and if you've ever experienced it from maybe previous boyfriends or just Yeah, in general. Yeah, thank you. Sorry, I've said it before and I will say again, moms do low-key fancy their sons. I don't think it's about fancy. Okay, call it what you want, but it's like, they have this, like, weird, possessive,

like, can do no wrong, rose-tinted glasses. Like, I think because the love of, like, it must be something really Freudian about the fact that, like, men when they're grown don't necessarily like we've experienced this before treat women with like the utmost respect but with their mothers they do so I feel like for some women maybe that love that they experience from their son is like so overwhelming and even more special because it's like more novel to receive from a boy maybe like when you have a little boy yes like they love you and you and you need you. So much and they need you. And that doesn't, even when they're teenagers, to be honest, like, they still need their moms.

When they get to an age where they actually could, like, this is an awful thing to say, but they could in theory move through their life without their mom. That leads their mom feeling like abandoned. Like what is, like, unneeded, like, completely like useless. Yeah. And so then they cling. Yeah. Because they feel like, where's my little, it's different with girls because girls like always

need their moms. it's so different. We're like so intrinsically linked for life. Yeah. And like they know that and also moms know that like no matter what their daughters will be there for them. Yes. Whereas like with sons they have to click.

They literally have to grab on. Otherwise like their sons will go and like marry and spend time with the wife's family. And like there's all this thing of like I have to keep you close. And the smartest boy moms make an ally out of their son's partner. Yes, of course. Because that's the only way to keep them close.

But there are many, many boy moms who have not yet learnt that lesson and are toxic. And become, like, quite competitive with the girlfriends. And bitchy. Yeah. And also that is a thing actually. Like, I don't know, I personally think it happens with girls too, you know, when parents, like, base their worth on how their children are huge. So, like, what they do, how they look, like, what other people say about them. It's like a direct compliment to them

and I think that is fuck. I think it's especially also, this is like no defamation, but to mothers who gave up their work to raise their children. And like when, when especially for boys, I don't know,

it's because it's, you know, boys are so, you know, boys are harder to make them great. But when boys are like, when someone says, oh, he's such a lovely boy, they're like, that's because of me!

Yes. Whereas like, if they said that about a girl, they'd be like, well, course she is. Yes. There's something deeply Freudian about it. Yeah. It is. It is.

I, one thing I will say, sis, is I hope that we are a new generation of therapist-therepised people. Because Sophie Habeu says, I now understand all those fucking mental minds. Really? Yeah, because I think when you have a baby boy and they're so, like, amazing and they love you so much because they're a kid, it's hard to ever imagine them not having that relationship with you, but with a daughter you will always have that. Yeah.

Well, also I guess it's, like, actually quite hard. to get like unconditional love from a man when you're looking for like that kind of romantic love. Yes. Unconditional love is something that actually is quite hard to come across. Whereas obviously when a, with a child, it is unconditional love. It's hard as well because like girls have different ways

of showing their parents' unconditional love. Boys aren't very good at it. Yeah. So boys can make, because boys are so bad at showing their mum's love, their mom's clinging even closer. But like actually what you need to teach your kids. Yeah.

It's like if you show up for me in X, Y, Z, I, like, obviously not verbatim, but like, you don't need, you don't need to smother me in love. Yes. For me to know. I think in this situation, I would honestly just let them. I agree, especially if it's your brother. I mean, I obviously neither of us have experience. No, but it's not an indication of you. And, like, I also don't have experience of this.

You might, Loll. I don't know whether you were the favourite or not, but I don't really have experience of favouritism because I'm a favourite. I was not the favourite. I've never been a favourite. I'm the favourite. I've literally categorically never been the favourite. How does that feel? Do you know what?

Anything you can do about that? No, honestly no. There we go. Don't try. Would be my honest answer because you're going to lose years of your life. Just let them. And I just think, honestly,

not being the favourite does have its perks. I genuinely feel like that. Shine the limelight elsewhere. Let me fuck up over here. Live my life. Yes. You know, no. Also, what a blessing to go to a family event

and not be the person to have to talk about. Yes. I honestly. Everyone's talking about your brother this, your brother that. Lovely. Brilliant, let them show how hard it is to be an only child.

You know how hard it is to also be the one that everything is expected of you? Yeah. You've got to achieve the most. You've got to do this. Like have all of those expectations on your shoulders. I would just, you know, revel in the fact that he's getting all of this like showering. Yeah.

And suffocation. Yeah. And you just get to live your life. The only hard part of having, like, of being, I guess, I have it because I'm the eldest, but you have it because you're the only boy, you're the only girl, is that you shoulder all the responsibility

and that is hard when you're like I'm actually doing all the hard yards here and I'm still not the fucking favourite. Getting no credit. Yeah. The fuck. I hate to tell you sis, that's the luck of the draw.

Yeah. Those are the cars you've been dealt in this life. No point moping about it. That's it really. You've got to just get on with it and protect your own energy. That's all you can do. Right, it is now time for

the galley gossip. It's time for the galley gossip. This is where you can write in. comment, DM, WhatsApp, YouTube, whatever you want. And we will respond. But this is not meant to be heavy shit. This is meant to be pure goss. Pure goss.

We've had a DM from Christina, who was listening to our episode, our most disgusting story yet, and wait, she killed him? And apparently she has a pretty weird sex story of her own. Yes. I met a guy in a club and he asked if I wanted to go home with him.

I said, it's that time of the month, so probably not. I've got a little anecdote for you that I won't share. But he assured me he didn't mind, although I was definitely not prepared for just how much he didn't mind. Oh no, he went down on how I bet. At the relevant stage of the evening...

Oh, no, I know. I know what's going to happen. I mentioned I was going to take my moon cup out. Slay Queen for using a moon cup. Thank you for thinking about people. Environmental Queen. What a queen. Greta, eat your heart out. He first asked, what's a moon cup?

Followed immediately by, can I do it? Oh my God, that's loki hot. I decided to let him purely in the name of education seeing as he was a medical student and I thought I'd be helping the greater good he successfully got it out and then proceeded to pour the content

over his anatomy before we did the deed Yeah that's not right That's not right I actually don't think blood is like that luby is it I honestly Don't know the answer That is making me feel all kind of weird

I feel like a vampire He's sorry To top it all off When we went to bed afterwards, he casually told me I could just leave it out overnight. I did not. That is crazy. Listen, it's one thing to suck someone's toes. My period blood is for me and myself only.

That is not for consumption by anyone else. Period sex is so intimate, I swear to gosh. I know. I really... Like, normally at the stage where you have period sex, you're like, oh, like, this is like... My boyfriend. A vibe. Yeah.

But like, even that... It's like the Michaela Cole, what was it I May Destroy You? That scene where he like takes her tampon out and then he's like playing with her blood because he's like so fascinated by her. Yeah. Listen, it's a natural thing. What did we all say to you the other day? What did he say?

What did he say? What did he say? And I said, I'm so sorry. That is low-key gross. And he said, don't ever be sorry. It's just a bodily function. Just a bodily function. So, you know.

It's a bodily function. That is not, you know. This culture is not your entertainment. Your entertainment. My culture is not your costume. It's not your culture. It's not your culture. Sorry, my culture is not your costume.

My culture is not your culture. It's not. You don't know what I'm going through. Sex does feel better on your period though. I would die on that hell. If you want to get involved in next week's galley gossip, send us a DM on Insta or drop us a comment on YouTube or Spotify TV featured. If you've got a story or a dilemma that only we can help you with them,

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