Leave A Message with Ally & G - Should I Find My Sperm Donor Daddy? AND Our Worst Prank Yet…
Episode Date: April 1, 2026If you didn’t notice, it’s April Fools’ Day… so obviously Ally and G dusted off their finest jester outfits and attempted to psychologically torment their poor, unsuspecting (or… very suspec...ting?) manager, Olivia.Plus, one Gally is looking for a crash course in self-love, while another is contemplating whether to track down her long-lost sperm donor dad.FANCY SENDING A VOICENOTE/MESSAGE GALLY? Send your voice note to: https://wa.me/message/UH4DASEKPFQBA1 (Oh, and don’t leave out ANY of the juicy details!)OR, you can write us email an on hello@leaveamessagepod.comFind us at @leaveamessagepodcast on socials!Listen every Wednesday wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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You have reached Leave a message with me, Ali.
And me, G.
This is a podcast where we help the galleys in need.
Whether your boyfriend hates your hustle era.
Or whether you've been having sex dreams about someone you really shouldn't be.
This is the place for you.
Welcome in.
Hi.
Guys, happy April Falls.
If you celebrate or not.
Glad to be here with you.
I love April Falls.
Love a little prank.
I am an OG prankster.
Well, you're so lucky because you're in a long-term relationship.
So you've got the really easy pregnancy one.
I love that.
It's boring. I find that dull.
What, you find it dull to text wrong and be like, oh dear.
I think that's so good.
Yeah, because he'd be like, obviously you're not pregnant.
We haven't had sex.
Obviously, I know how babies are made.
And it's not by watching that many episodes of Bridgeton.
Let me tell you.
Okay, yeah, got it, got it, got it.
Will you try and fool him this year?
We could do it.
We could do it.
I think we could do a good one.
Guys, if you haven't seen it yet already, we have done an eight.
on our insta, which is queer baiting.
So sorry about that.
No, but I'm not sorry about it.
Because the number of DMs that we get being like,
are you guys,
or the comments being like,
are you guys sure you're not in love?
We are in love.
Just not romantic love.
Although, yeah, we are like,
same, same, but different.
Lots of relationships don't have sex in them.
So I go to know.
We've never snogged.
I just want to make,
I put that right.
No, we've never snogged.
And when you're younger and you're like best friends,
you do, don't you?
Yeah, yeah, you do.
You do 100%.
So I've never snogged.
holes either. I had a few friends that I used to snob. I had one. One friend.
But like it just... Maybe you had a soft spot for her. Probably. Maybe you're not as
straight as you think you are. Just saying.
Listen, there's always that possibility. Listen, it's a spectrum. Do you know what I mean? Depends on
the day, depends on the nine. Okay, we've got very important April Fool's business.
Yes. So basically, we just were lucky enough to go to the sexted tour. It was so good.
At Wembley. It was unreal. And like, what a machine. What a feat. You can't
Thanks guys.
The audio always team, the sexist team.
Amazing.
The CAA, the Live Nation team.
What a sleigh.
What a flex.
It was just a masterclass really and how to be good on stage.
Yes.
William Hudson in that fucking feather hat.
I really will never get over that.
They're so beautiful.
Everyone's talking about his legs.
His legs are amazing.
I know.
I know.
So good.
But he's like pumping behind the scenes with weights like I wasn't a joke.
Like I've got a video of it.
That was quite real.
Yeah.
Very real with the weights.
I can believe.
I've seen a lot of brides doing that nowadays.
The Pilates brides are really getting on the 2KGs before they go out and, you know, marry their man.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't know that.
Oh, you won't.
Me neither.
You won't be catching me doing that on my wedding day.
I might do some squats.
But if you're wearing a big dress, no one's going to see your ass anyway.
Like an ass pump.
Yeah.
Do I mean?
Have a day or rest day.
Yes, rest day.
Oh, one rest day.
Because you've got to put in a shift that evening, haven't you?
You know, you've got to be.
I even have this.
And like, I've been to a wedding, but I have myself been to the gym that morning.
I do think it makes you pissed quicker.
Yeah.
And also, I think there's too much time.
Like, you can't be going.
Even if I've got a night out, I won't be going to the gym in the morning because I think I've got to save my energy.
Obviously.
Yeah.
It's rest day.
Oh, it's rest day.
Yeah.
It's rest weekend.
Yeah.
It's rest, rest, rest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, basically, the law is Olivia, who you may or may not know as our manager, she is a sex day.
she is a sexted super fan.
Not just sexted, Jordan North specifically.
Yes.
So the backstory here is, I'm so sorry, Livish, she's actually going to die.
She's going to be mortified.
So we hosted the Sony AP at the Brits last year, so 2025.
And Jordan came in.
And we didn't know this at this point.
So Jordan came in and we were interviewing him, but like, God bless.
He won't remember.
He was a bit merry.
It was end of the night.
It was late.
It was probably like 11.30.
It was really late.
And afterwards, Olivia was like, oh my God, I'm shaking.
And we were like, why is this UK?
She was like, I'm a Jordan North super fan.
She loves him.
Knows everything about him.
Like, knowing him now, this makes he cringe.
Yeah, no, I bet.
I bet.
I know.
Well, also, like, she will now, like, cross, I'm sure, like, be in the same room with him.
And then, like, obviously, hopefully that will dissipate.
If it doesn't, then so awkward for everyone involved.
But she loves.
him, like thinks he's amazing.
So when you message being like, do you guys want to come to sext it?
She was like, it was her dad's 60th and she was like, for real, can I get out of my dad's 60th
to come to this?
She had a whole weekend planned and she was like, I think.
And then when they were like, oh, we could try and get you tickets to some of the other
shows, she's like, will I fly to Glasgow?
Like really trying to like figure out how she could make this happen.
And she's obviously seen them before.
So like it wouldn't even have been her first rodeo.
Anyway, we thought April 4s, why don't we try and prank her?
And we're going to say that William and Jordan have like a community event for their like best most supportive 0.1% fans.
Yes.
And because we've told them that she was so sad that she couldn't come.
Yes.
That she's going to be their special guest.
Yes.
Really good.
And they might like get her up on stage.
But like it would be a small stage.
Small group.
Okay.
Hi, sis.
Hi, Queen.
It's us.
Hi.
We've just received some very.
exciting news and we thought we'd just call you to share with you.
What is it?
Is this a prank?
No, obviously not.
Okay, why would you assume that that's a...
I'm not speaking of your loud speaker because honey sir is on.
Why would you assume that we were pranking you?
That is so fucking rude.
What are you two little girls doing?
So we're with producer Izzy.
Yeah, I'm producer, Izzy.
Hello.
Hi, Queen.
Hello, Princess.
Hey, Queen's only, Queen's only.
She's basically six.
She just told us that obviously because you can't go to the sexted,
like obviously the second sexted weekend is this weekend,
but they're having like a separate community event for like all their like,
like number one fans.
And because you're,
I can't go to that.
No, she said.
Because she spoke to Jordan and William about it.
And they obviously because they were like.
I think this is a prank.
Is he?
Is it?
I promise.
It's not a prank.
I promise.
I can send you the email.
Because I'm just, you go into that.
Why wouldn't you go to that?
Can we both?
I can't go by myself.
Sorry, guys.
No, but Olivia, they've also said that you can do, like, they've...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, honey, I'm sure we could get you there.
I mean, you might need to, like, answer a few questions, like, to prove that you're also a fan.
Oh, well, that's good, because I don't know where.
Wait, what?
Well, it's very elite.
It's for, like, they're, like, top fans, like, you know, when on Spotify, you get, like, the, like, 0.4% of listeners or whatever.
Yeah, that's what we said.
And that's what is he said to them.
And we also said, so they're doing like a little like meet and greet and stuff and there'll be some people on stage being like...
Sorry, sorry. I cannot go to meet and greet. I love what you're doing, but I cannot go to a meet and greet.
Why not? Also, I think it's a bit... I think it's a bit much of hard to be going alone, getting a picture and drinking more.
Yeah, I can't. And I'll do festival. No, but you all kind of be going. Like, they'll know that you're like half there in like a work capacity as like someone they might like, you know, rub shoulders with now.
You know what you need to do
is go drink a matcher
and relax
to the non-holmeatheist
you can't prank the pranksters
Oh no
No you can't prank the dancers
Like I'm literally sat here
Just putting hair cream on by
Guys it's actually true
Honey and Olivia on our team
are the prankiest pranksters of all day
On a real though this is not a joke
I did say to Jordan
Olivia is our manager is your number one fan
Thanks
Yeah, and he did say that he would do a private meet and greet.
All right. All right. Love you both. See you later. Bye now. Love you. Bye.
Cut the end. We had her.
They're such pranky little pranksters. Like, honestly, we can't even get them, even no matter how hard we try.
Guys, there was this one prank that they did on us that is actually the funniest thing of all time.
But the sad thing is there was no camera on us, but they called us once and they were like, guys,
I won't say the brand,
have come in with a creative that's like,
it's a pizza brand that serves garlic dip, okay?
You know.
And the creative was that we were going to get dunked,
like dunked in the dip.
And they were like how much,
and they were like, also we booked the shoot already.
And they were like,
they've just changed their whole idea
they want to dunk you and these garlic.
It's like an enormous, like almost paddling pool sized
garlic mayo dinner.
Looking back, I actually.
How did we believe that?
It was like they're going to cling film the whole car.
Yeah.
Because there were no showers on.
By this one.
Also, it was, they were their geniuses because they get us in the part of the day where we can be got.
Because we'd done like five different things.
We were just about to go into a junket.
Like, you know, when you're just thinking about anything else, so then you just take them for word.
And anyway, we were, I was such like a little diver about it.
I was like, you have to be joking.
And then Olivia was like, no, but like, what?
Okay, but maybe we could like up the fee to like compensate.
No, she said, okay, how much would I have to ask them for in Gigo's six figures?
I was like, babe, what, to get dunked in garlic herb, you're going to need a hundred K's.
And I was like, yeah.
Anyway.
Oh, happy April Falls, guys.
If you managed to do better than us, then please can you message in to the Gallagosier.
Did you ever used to prank your mom?
I used to prank my mum all the time because I went to boarding school.
So I would call my mum and be like, I'm like really just so suspended.
And she was like, so suspended.
I'm serious suspended guys. Whoa.
And I was like, you need to come pick me up like right now.
And she'd be like, you what?
Obviously, no one wants to get suspended.
I didn't because my mum was so laxy, laxie.
I could have done with a few more boundaries in my house.
That woman, she didn't know how to tell me off.
Like, I could have said that and she'd be like, oh, sweetie, come home.
She literally could not have a death.
Oh, no, my mom was not like that.
No, like I once, my parents once tried to ground me, I can't remember what I'd done.
and I then just like went out obviously to my friend's house
and my mum got home and was like, where's George?
And my dad was like, oh, she's at Emma's.
And my mum was like, she's grounded.
And my dad was like, does that mean she can't go to Emma's?
That's from my film.
No, literally.
That was me.
Yeah, I remember it.
And then my mum came and got me because she said,
what are you doing here?
And I said, dad let me.
She was like, you're grounded.
I was like, I don't think this counts.
And she was like, fair enough.
Okay.
Join us in part two for your galley messages.
All right galleys, welcome back.
What will we call the galleys?
We best call them Olivia.
Yeah, go on, call them Olivia.
Oh, she's going to hate.
She really is going to hate us.
It's an honour to be named a galley on this podcast.
I know, I don't think that's the problem.
I think it's the fact that we talk.
I did say to Jordan.
I actually did say that.
I said, our manager is so sad.
You can't be here because she is your number one fan.
I'm not embarrassed.
And she will meet him and she will be mortified.
Okay.
Now it's time for an email.
Okay, I'm ready.
Are you ready?
I'm ready.
Hey, galleys, another family-related dilemma for you.
Things I love to hear.
My mum used a sperm, I love it.
My mum used a sperm donor to have me 19 years ago
as she wanted a child but never found the right man.
I'm resonating.
We don't really know anything about him at all.
My mum's a strong, independent woman, and I'll always admire her for that.
We have a great relationship and I have a super close family.
But there's always a part of me that's curious about what my biological dad is like and even
whether I have half siblings.
Half of me feels that I shouldn't delve into it as I have a great life and there's no need
to explore something unnecessary which might actually bring me more problems than it's worth.
But the other half of me is so curious and feels like I want to scratch the itch.
What should I do?
Maybe I do a DNA test on Ancestry and see what comes up.
What do you galleys think?
Wow, babe.
Obviously do the DNA test.
What kind of a question is this?
I don't think I've ever met anyone that's been born of sperm donor.
Genuinely never.
Oh my God, you're our first.
Hi.
What are the rules on sperm donor?
Like if you donate your sperm and you don't want to be found,
I guess you'd just never be on something like ancestry.
Well, you wouldn't, this is a thing I do.
I mean, listen, I have no fucking clue.
So this is a shot in the dark here.
but I think if you're a sperm donor
I think you can give your sperm to more than one person
I think they limit it but yes I think you can
so I don't think you would be connected
necessarily directly to your father
but you might find a half sibling who's also
or like an uncle or like some relation
because I know that that's how a lot of people find out
that they have secret siblings they do
because they go to look for like someone
that they are actually looking for
like I don't know their fucking grandma's uncle or whatever
And then they find out that this other person,
there was this whole documentary about this,
about this man, this sperm donor in America,
who gave his sperm to like 200 people
and they all like lived in the same village
and it was so fucking weird.
Yeah, because he was bad practice.
No, no, no.
Not a good off-stab rating for him.
Like it was illegal.
But yeah, I would say do it.
And I always say, listen, I know everyone says
canary nils the cat.
Dull.
You must find out
Because you know
Add some spice to your life
So weird isn't it
Like the nature versus nurture thing
Like I wonder whether you'd meet him
And he'd feel like a stranger
Or whether you'd be like
Oh I really get that from you
Do you know what I mean?
No I think he'd feel like a stranger
Yeah
I think he's...
Unless you look alike I guess
I think it's so weird
In instances like that though
Where it's like
I feel like I should know you
But I actually don't
It will also like
I haven't missed you
And like
I've wondered about you
But like my life's good.
I was talking to Min about this on Saturday because she went to a hen and there were like loads of girls from our school there.
And she was like, and I said, she was like, it's weird when you see people that you think you know.
Like you have an idea of who they are.
But then obviously you're seeing them like 15 years later and they're like a completely different person.
You're like, you're like a stranger to me, but like a stranger that it's really weird.
Yeah.
And maybe it'll be like that.
Maybe it'll just be like those girls at school.
The school reunion.
I'm desperate for a school reunion.
But I wanted to go at Christmas.
Oh, I know.
They did do one for you, didn't they?
We had to go to some stupid event.
I remember, because I called Nige and she was heartbroken.
No, I bet.
This year, I will be clearing my diary.
And I'd be nothing will trump it.
I'd be so nervous.
Do they do it every year?
Every year.
For your year?
Or for the whole school?
No, for the whole school.
Anyone that's an old girl can come.
An old girl.
How embarrassing?
How embarrassing?
How bad.
An old girl.
Do it.
Obviously do it.
I think.
As long as your mum's cool.
Well, also, as long as you're ready for whatever the outcome may be.
Because I sometimes think we go into...
Yeah, what if he's a loser?
Or like...
He's a bum.
He's probably going to be a bum.
What if he's dead?
What if he's dead?
Like, I just think you have to really emotionally prepare yourself for all eventuality.
Because it might actually feel weirder than you think it's going to feel.
Like, you might think it's just like, oh, just like, you know, my test tube daddy, but it might feel different.
The thing is, I do know, I have quite a lot of adopted people in my family.
I do know that there is something about finding your birth parents
that's really like intrinsic in those people
because you feel like when you know,
even if like you don't like them,
like at least you know.
You know, I feel,
I think a lot of those,
if you have this situation or you're adopted,
I think you have this,
it feels like a missing part
that you have to some way somehow find out.
So I think as you should.
But I just would proceed with emotional caution, yeah.
Because what if he's a bit of?
a serial killer. Do what I mean? There really is every possibility. Because when I think about sperm
donors, like especially 19 years ago, I just kind of imagine like a jobbing musician that was like
struggling to play the rent. Even now I'm like, Gordon, what kind of people are giving their
sperm? I guess kind ones. Like it's a really kind, gracious thing to do actually, isn't it?
I think it's just for money, sure. Yeah, I do. Because they're expensive though, sperm.
Are they? Because I don't actually think they pay enough because I did, back in the day when I was a student,
I did look at giving some eggs. Let's look it up.
Don't get paid that much.
Let's look it up.
Hold on.
600 quid?
No way.
Oh my God.
I think you get paid more if you're a woman.
I think it's like 1,200.
Spathing a cup.
Spaffing a cup is not, you know, high-skilled job spaffing a cup.
Not that's so much less than I thought.
Is it 600?
45 pounds.
No.
Is that right?
Yeah, I've just seen that too.
Up to 45 pounds in compensation.
So they're not, why would you do?
Because I'm guessing it's a bit like surrogacy.
Like in this country you can't technically pay for it.
Yeah, it's illegal to pay for sperm.
So they're basically paying for like time.
Your travel.
Yeah.
I would guess that most people who have a sperm donor,
I don't know, I could really be making this up.
But maybe it's people that you know.
Like, I don't know.
Let's say.
No, it's sperm bank.
They have books that you can look through.
No, no, no.
I know.
I'm just saying like surely the majority is people that can't get pregnant or they're single.
And they just like ask their friend.
to go in with them.
Yeah.
But some people don't want to know.
Like some people want the distance.
Like this woman, I'm guessing, didn't want this man in her life.
So she wanted that like, like, I picked from a brochure.
It's honestly like Argos.
I genuinely think it's like Argos at Christmas.
You just go.
You're right.
Sorry, I didn't think about that.
But what are the kind of men that are doing sperm donations?
I don't know.
Well, kind men or poor men.
Really?
Poor men, they've 45 quits, what even fucking getting you a train ticket to the clinic.
True.
to your gigs.
He's going to be a musician.
I just have a feeling.
He's going to be like a bass player.
I need to know.
I need to know what kind of people do sperm donate.
I think it is a really kind thing to do.
I'm sure, babe.
But I think there's something a little strange
about happily doing that
knowing that you might just have unborn children
all across the world.
Well, born children.
Sorry, born children.
Born?
Living and breathing.
Like, that is a weird mentality.
I know.
And that you're not that arsed.
I find that.
Strange, sadly.
Wow.
I guess it's a young man's game, sperm donation.
You know, young, naive.
On a night out.
Do you know what I mean?
Call a lot of spunk to spunk.
Babe, let us know.
Please.
We want to know.
Please let us know.
Spirm donor daddy is like.
Also, please leave a comment if you know anything more about sperm donation
because we would like to know the deeds.
If you've done it, please, let us know.
I don't think there are any sperm donors listening to us, babe.
I'm sure there's.
a few. I just have a feeling that there might be a few or you might know of one that you could get
in contact with. Right. Let's hear our first voice note. Hey, galleys. Lots of love to you both. So,
context. I'm 18 years old. I'm a dancer and I've just been offered a place to study.
Be A. Honours in Performing Arts. I have also struggled with eating disorders. Say it on and off
since I was 12 and I've struggled with self-love, self-image, body image for as long as I can
physically remember. What I'm worried about is when I go to uni, especially as a dance student,
I'm going to be an absolute minimum nine till half, four, five days away.
Fueling yourself is so important and I'm living by myself. I have my own little studio.
It's gorgeous. I am worried that I'm going to spiral.
and relapse, not look after myself properly.
And that's potentially going to implicate my career.
And I love dancing.
And dancing is my sanity.
And it's actually what's gotten me through my struggles with eating.
So my question for you is, number one,
what some advice for managing low self-esteem and poor self-image?
I know I'm not going to be able to fix it.
how can I manage it?
Piece of advice number two
is give me some meals,
give me some advice,
give me something
to help me feel myself properly
because I'm not going to like alleys.
I am stressed.
Oh, babe!
Oh, sis, love you.
Love you.
So much love.
Also great, because I'm sure
that loads of people will
resonate with this.
Yeah.
Even if they're not to answers.
Yes.
Like, you know,
sadly I think it is a symptom of
the female condition. I believe it is, yeah. And probably a product of our environment. Like,
I think, like, all of this, like, self-image and, like, self-worth based on the way that you look
has probably been heightened because of social media. And I think, like, we always had it, I'm sure,
with, like, celebrity. But now that's, like, so in your every day. You know, I always think,
you know, if you're living on an island and all you can see is, like, yourself and the nature around you,
you feel a bit less consumed by those thoughts.
So I think, you know, your awareness is incredible.
That's like step one.
Step one is being aware that you have had a problem
and that you don't want to let that slip again.
That's like the best starting place.
Because even that takes a while to come to you sometimes.
Sometimes you don't know your own.
Well, you're like, I'm fine.
No, no, no, I'm fine.
And you're like, oh, maybe I'm not fine.
I fainted.
I'm not so fine.
Yeah.
And like it takes a minute to like come to,
terms with that because also you have to want to come to terms with that because I think there's
sometimes this like place that people can get to where the want to look a certain way
overrides the health of your body. Well it's all consuming it can be your like entire identity
and like we've all you know not proud of it we've all used my fitness pal do you know what I mean
yeah like it can become the thing that is the like you wake up thinking about it you like
You live your life like that.
That is genuinely how you live, like, with all these, like, fucking markers and stuff.
I think especially when you're going through, like, a change.
Yeah.
Like, if everything around you is changing and everything's new, like, that can be something actually relatively easy.
Definitely.
But you're like, well, this is all in order.
Yeah.
This is good.
So anyway, your awareness is the first step.
So, Slay, well done you.
I think your first question was just about, like, self-love and,
confidence, I guess, coming from within.
I'm trying to think of things that I do.
This is so funny and I always say this one,
but never stop moisturising your full body.
I feel like there is something in taking the time
to just like be with yourself, like naked
and like loving yourself head to toe,
irrelevant of like everything else that's going on around you
and the way that you look, if that makes sense.
Like finding a way to care for your body
that isn't just external or based around food.
Because I think that can become a place of like fixation.
I, when I'm really bad, I do stick notes all over my mirror
because like mirrors become like kind of like either my enemy
or somewhere where I notice I spend way too much time.
Like I know that I'm in a bit of a bad headspace
where I'm either like really body checking all the time,
like constantly in the mirror,
or I'm avoiding the mirror completely.
Like both are not good.
You want to just have like quite a neutral relationship with the mirror.
Yes.
Like you're just checking.
Do you know, as in like checking your outfit or doing your makeup or like whatever?
So sometimes I'll like put notes on so that if I am spending a like prolonged period of time like in the mirror,
at least I'm looking at like really like positive.
Or if you if you can't do that, just get a mirror that is just for your face.
Literally.
Like, just don't look.
It's actually easy to avoid if you make the effort to do that.
Well, when you're a dancer, sadly, head to toe mirrors all over the walls.
So, like, you've got enough time.
But I think, like, the dance is a really good thing, actually.
And I have it a lot.
Like, Alan and I spoke about it a lot.
Like, probably, like, last year, I found it way easier to feel confident and to do our job when we were doing something.
So, like, I really struggled with, like, or I still do sometimes.
like when we're just there to get a good photo.
Whereas when we're like interviewing or doing this
or I rarely think about the way I look because I'm doing.
So if you can really like focus on like your dance and your movement,
like that's probably like a safer place to like be.
No, but I would say that like you baby, you are a transformed person.
Like even that Getty the other day, you handled that so fucking a year ago.
No, no, I'm really proud of you because like a year ago she would have like gone to the
and cried.
No, no, like, that was like...
All like it would have ruined, like, my week
and I'd have really struggled to, like, go again.
So basically, my therapist, Chanchala,
who I actually am taking a break from at the moment,
because as Ali said, I'm fixed.
Any tips you'd like to share from Chanchala
on how to do that?
I always say to her, babe, don't worry about it.
Because there was this really unflattering Getty
that was not a true representation of real life.
To be honest, of either of us.
No, I genuinely think they might have, like,
toyed with it in post or something.
I was like, that can't be me.
And then we were kind of having a lull about it,
which is like we would not normally have a lull about it.
And I said, babe, I don't know what you're worried about.
You're fixed now.
And you are actually, obviously you're not fixed,
but like you are massively improved.
Yeah, I can ride the waves.
So whatever Chan Chalha has said has worked.
Yeah.
I think I did a lot of work with going back to like you as a child
and thinking about how you would speak to yourself then
because I think we're so critical.
One of my things was put a photo of your little self on your mirror.
I think it really helps.
Either that or if you have a really good friend in your life,
like a sister, a best friend,
that's also a really nice one to imagine.
Like if you can actually imagine yourself critiquing them
or critiquing them, making them skip meals,
like all of the like acts of harm that you're doing to yourself,
if you could actually imagine yourself doing that to either that younger version of you or to your friends,
you'd be mortified because you wouldn't have any friends. Do you know what I mean?
So that I find really helpful.
We did a lot of like visualization and one of the ones that really helps me when I'm feeling particularly in my head about the way that I look is to basically like imagine myself like getting like really small and being.
so weird but I'm inside a doll's house
and I like imagine the size of that doll's house
in comparison to the whole world
and then I kind of just have this weird feeling
that like oh it's so insignificant
because it feels so big
I hear you like it's loud
and it's in front of you
and you think everyone else is thinking about it
and it's all you can see and all you can think about
and so if you can make it like smaller
and then I also have an image of a
a light, dial up, dial down.
So when it's really loud,
I just imagine that switch
and I just am dialing it down, down, down, down, down.
That's good.
And then you can even dial up other things.
Like if there's something else that you know like...
Or like, if you see a photo of yourself, for example,
and dial down the bit that you don't like
and just look at how amazing your hair looks.
100%.
Like honestly, just cropped the photo and just be like, wow,
I look fucking amazing.
Yes.
Like even if it's your fucking right nostril doesn't matter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's anything on that picture or like your shoes.
You love your trainers.
Your nails.
Could be anything.
Yes.
That is brilliant advice.
Yeah.
And then meals.
Well, I have a meal for you.
Go on.
Salmon and peel our rice.
Right.
Guys, my love affair, I have now actually changed to homali rice.
However, I don't know what homali rice.
Get to know her because it's like halfway between white and sticky.
But it cooks in five minutes.
Oh, heaven.
It's like the fastest cooking rice you'll ever have.
Heaven.
Listen, I think I've never like had a proper eating disorder, but I do think I have tendencies,
not just with my food. I can be like a bit like, you know, cuckoo, mentalist.
OCD, would we call it as well as I would. And I don't want to say that because I know I'm
not actually diagnosed with OCD, but like I can be, I cannot really hyperfixate on things.
Yeah. Like, like, I can hyper fixate on spending money. I can, do you know what I mean?
Like there are loads of ways it shows up in my life. But as we were saying, when we get really
busy sometimes I'm really like that about I don't I don't eat to like I just eat because I have to
eat something so I I then went to like find a meal that no matter what I know I'm gonna like it
it's not gonna make me bloated and I can make it really quickly some I was salmon and peel our rice
and so just like have one meal like even now like rules away this weekend and on Friday
I sat Saturday I could not be fucked to cook
salmon and peel our rice.
Like, I could have easily just not eaten dinner.
Yeah.
So easily.
You can't, like, you have to force yourself.
Also, obviously, if you buy salmon in a two pack, you have one at a time.
So I look at the salmon, I think, oh my God, it's going to go off.
I have to eat the salmon.
I have to eat the salmon.
Yeah.
So, like, that sounds really, like, weird and a bit, like, it's a bit of psychotherapy.
But I think if you can find meals, like, three, two, one, it doesn't matter that you, like, consistently
you can come back to you and know you will eat that every day of the week no matter the time,
that's a good place to start for meals.
Yes.
And then you don't get in the habit of being like, oh, well, I don't know what to cook.
Oh, well, I can't be bothered, so I won't.
Yeah.
Because remembering that small child, you wouldn't not feed them their dinner.
Yes.
You can eat your dinner.
Like, you just remind yourself of that.
And then it's something that you know, I can make that.
Yeah.
And I have to make that.
Yeah.
Because I've got someone in the fridge and it's going to go off.
And it's delicious.
Like, buy two chicken breasts.
I genuinely think that is a hack because like you look at it and you feel bad.
You paid for that chicken and it's going to go off.
Amen.
We hate waste around here.
Or the other thing to do is like make a lasagna and just have it all week.
Bit a bit of meal prepping, especially when like when I was at drama school.
Because we went to drama school in the middle of nowhere.
So we didn't have like a cafe or anything.
So you had to pre-pack your food and let me tell you when you forgot you did not have a good day.
You were not performing well.
Like you can't be hungry.
You're not yourself when you're hungry.
So like if you're meal prepping and you know like, oh, for lunch I'm going to have,
even if it's something like so easy like an overnight oat and you just know that you can chuck it in your bag and you're going to eat.
Also pack snacks.
Like I literally don't go anywhere without this delicious lila oat bar because I'm like, listen.
She buys it in bulk on Amazon.
I do.
Because I think if I'm in a moment where like my blood sugar drops are like I just need a nibble, I always have one.
It's something that like agrees with me.
I could, do you know what I mean?
Like you need to have like safe foods.
I don't like to say that, but like it is the truth.
It is the truth.
Find shit that you like on repeat.
And just honestly, it doesn't matter if you eat the same thing every day.
It really doesn't matter.
That would be my advice to you about food, like meals specifically.
Yes.
Sorry, I just want to say one more thing about body image.
I used to have the, I actually will try and find a photo so we can put it in the video.
But I went through like the worst age of adult acne, like of all time.
And it was painful and, you know, quite.
depressing and like my whole face then started peeling because I was on these really strong
assets and I so vividly remember there was this one day that I was meant to go this was like
just at the beginning when we were like I was hustling to sort of get and like interviews
and entertainment and carpets and stuff and there was this one day that I was meant to go to the
knives out premiere and I remember looking in the mirror and my I'm not joking my face was
falling off like my makeup would not not sit on my face and I literally was like crying like I
cannot go. And the guy that I was doing it for was like, no, no, no, no worries. Like, you don't have to
do this. It's really no big deal. Oh, no, it was a junket. Sorry, it was a junket with Lily James.
And I remember very vividly thinking, am I really going to sit there when someone asked me,
what have you been doing? And are you really going to say, oh, I didn't go to this junk kit,
this like amazing opportunity because my skin was really bad that day. Like, are you going to sit there
and say that? Because that is no joke, pathetic. It is. Like, you have to, you have to, you have
speak kindly but then you also have to
you know be like
come on sis you got to stand up
now enough is enough like
if you looked back and you let
that thing stop you from doing some of the
things you have always wanted to achieve
or like as you said dancing like
you know it will stop you
if you let it it will
so don't let it you got to
I used to have this um my therapist
my ex therapist
called Nikos
used to have me speak to like
I had this like ulterior character called,
she was just called the Mean Girl.
She didn't actually have a name.
We don't name how she doesn't deserve a name.
But she lives inside me.
And like on a really bad day,
it's like she works me to the bone.
She doesn't let me rest.
She doesn't let me,
do I mean,
like she's just all the things that I can be.
And he would have me like talk to her.
And like she would say,
I don't know,
she might say like,
God, you're,
you look so ugly.
And like,
how could you ever go out of the house like that?
And you have to imagine.
and talking back to her,
because then you're like fighting to stand up for yourself.
And then you're like, oh wait, actually, I can do that.
Yeah.
I actually have that in me.
And then you just do it.
Yeah.
And then the more you do that,
the more habits you build that you know, okay,
in a day I need to do like X, Y, Z.
And then I can, I can actually do anything.
Yeah.
Because I've just, I've said no.
I think a lot of it is like, it's a muscle.
It is.
And you have to, we say this all the time in this industry.
Like, it's exposure therapy.
And then it's like,
Not letting it slip.
Yeah.
Don't let it slip.
And it's, it is training that, that thing in your brain, like, as you say, to be like,
oh, yeah, I can dial that down easily.
In the beginning, it's so difficult.
It's so hard.
Yeah, and you think you can't.
But it is like training any other muscle in your body.
The more you do it, the stronger it gets.
Also, it's really tempting to rely on, like, the more toxic ways of dialing that down.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, I think sometimes what we think is going to help us doesn't.
Like, in the beginning, especially,
with me and doing this job, I was like, oh, well, like, I'll just make myself smaller.
Then all the noise will stop. Well, it doesn't because I've been smaller and I've been bigger.
And all of it, it's still there if you let it be there. It doesn't matter. Like, there's only so much you can shrink yourself.
Like, or, you know, kind of do one healthy things. There's only so much that you can do that and still be trapped in the same.
Because I was right, you know, if it's not your body, it's your skin. If it's not your skin, it's your clothes.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. There's always something to look at it.
There is always something.
So you have to start flexing and like building that muscle.
Because it makes you resilient and it means that you can do what you want to do.
It really does actually.
And you, but you have to be, you have to find some inner strength to like look at it face on.
I had it with my nose.
I remember when we started filming, I literally could not watch those videos because I was like, I need to get a nose job.
Like I literally is all I would think about.
No, our first podcast artwork, Al was like that.
We can't.
Oh, we can't use that.
I was like, your nose.
Your nose is beautiful.
I don't understand.
I have always had this thing about my nose.
And so, like, it's just, it would be so, of course, I could have gone and got a nose job.
Then there would have been something else.
Do you know what I mean?
It's just like, you fix one thing and then it's just like, do better.
Do better, because it's just a vessel that we're moving through this fucking planet on.
It's so fucking boring.
It's the least interesting thing about you, the way you look.
I saw Ricky Patton saying the other day, no one's going to stand up on your, on your, at your funeral and be like, God, she had such a flat stomach.
No one's going to say that.
Gosh, you look good in a cousin.
No one's going to say that.
No one's going to be like, God, those tits.
Do you know what I mean?
And God, her nose was that straight.
Because that's what I really loved about her.
Do you what I mean?
Like, it's just so boring for that to be, like,
the only thing that really occupies any of your identity.
Like, dull, move on.
Next.
And, like, think, like, you've got to get a bit tough.
Yeah, I like that.
That's where, like, do the kindness and then come in with a bit of tough.
Like, come on.
Move on.
On to the next.
Come on.
It is. It's so boring.
Step ball change. Your way to freedom, sister.
Step all change and get on that salmon and peel our rice.
Amen. Amen.
Okay, so this is our favourite segment where we get to talk to the galley.
So rightly, this is The Galley Gossip.
It's time for the galley gossip.
Okay, we have got a voice note from Rommie who has had a fawking nightmare.
I love a nightmare.
Hey, Galley's absolutely obsessed with the pod.
I was just listening to your, he did what were the fork episode. And I was thinking,
really got a story to tell here. Alas was thinking not really going to be relevant in a future pod.
When Izzy comes in clutch and lets us know that we're doing a gossip? Let me tell you,
I've got a gossip. So I used to work in housekeeping when I was like 16. I might have even
been younger. I was too young. I was too young. Let me tell you now. And I'm housekeeping. And I
I pick up a bin bag that was in the bathroom and something sprung through the bin bag, spring sprang sprung through, and cut me a little bit on my hand.
Well, really, I'm exaggerating. Maybe grazed my knuckle or something. It was the fork covered in poo.
And you know what? I've never forgotten. I've never forgotten it. And I do often think, why was the fork covered in poo?
Why did I have to deal with it at such a young age? And has it?
affected me.
Yeah, thanks for listening.
I have an explanation for this.
Oh, go on.
Right.
Oh, I do, do.
Okay.
Sometimes.
I know.
When you do a poo in someone else's house
and the drains aren't used to the size.
Or the velocity.
Of your log.
It won't go.
Especially if it's a poo that's just one straight banana.
Yes.
Like if it's not like dropped like pellets.
No, but sometimes pellets can be worse
because a few pellets get left behind.
Pellets are behind is fine, but sometimes...
It's not fine.
No, no, but you don't need a fork for that.
True.
A fork is, it's too...
The mass is too great.
You need to...
So what's happened, I'm guessing, is there may be early doors dating.
Because otherwise, you'd wait, you'd flush again.
But you can't do that if you're early doors dating
because A, you don't want them to think that you've had to do a two flusher
because that's mortifying.
So what's happened in my mind, if they've done their business,
They've flushed, hasn't gone.
They've thought, shit.
They've gone out.
Shit.
Thought, oh, I've forgotten my wash bag.
Grabbed a fork.
Good.
So it's not really normally forks in hotel rooms,
but maybe they had room service the night before.
So I would normally use a hanger.
Slaces.
A hanger.
Especially if it's a metal one, you can unbend it.
I've been here many times, guys.
Many, many times.
No, I've got like serious beef with my friend Faye.
because whenever I used to stay at hers,
like for a bit I really fancied her older brother
and we, yeah, anyway,
their flush was infuriating.
Like if I did a poo in the morning,
like for some reason, me and that toilet did not go on, like, get on well.
And I would be stuck with this poo.
And I'd be mortified because I was like,
I don't want him to know that I've pooed, obviously.
Then I'd have to like find any which way.
Okay, I have two things to say.
Number one, we need to normalise pooing in front.
Like everyone poos, guys.
I know.
Unless you're literally nuking their house.
But not everyone has a poo that can't go down.
Not everyone has that problem.
Exactly.
So then what's the problem?
Well, I don't want to normalise that because it's not normal.
Oh, I see.
Sorry.
Okay, yeah, fine with that.
But, like, in general,
pooing is a human, like, you know, function that we all have to do.
Dogs have to do it on the street.
Like, even the queen's shot.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, everyone does poo.
I don't know about that.
Which is good.
Number one.
Number two, you know that rising panic where...
okay, my aunt has the best story ever.
The first time she ever went to my uncle's parents' house.
She did this.
My family have, you know, a history of IBS problems.
And she did this massive poo.
But it was like an old house, didn't flash down.
And you know that panic when like the fucking water starts rising.
Anyway, she flooded the bathroom, but her poo was all over there.
So she had to go and get this plastic bag, like, Seid Street's bag and like scoop the poo water into the bath.
No.
And then run it down the bathroom.
I'm just...
Doesn't better thinking about...
I just want to say I think it's really inventive...
It's a good test of creative challenge.
True.
Because you never know how you're going to deal with that poo.
You just don't.
So apparently, if you do new things, your life moves slower.
So, you know, having a challenge like that, that's a bit outside the box.
It's good to keep you young.
Climb those kind of hills.
Agree.
Exactly.
Babe, thank you any more housekeeping stories, please.
Because cleaners will know.
Well, there's a lot.
I would love, if there is anyone here,
because I read all these fucking crazy threads on Reddit on TikTok,
because I'm mental,
about people that have worked in like hotels.
Yes.
I need some of those.
I need those stories.
Yes.
Right.
It is time for what we loved and didn't love from this episode.
Love homali rice.
Love.
If you're looking for it in the shops,
it's hom Mali.
Okay.
Okay.
And it's five minutes, not too much water.
Not too much water. Oh, guys, I'm sorry. While we're on the topic of rice, my favorite thing in the world.
I am. My mother. It's actually so bad. When I was a kid, my mum used to order rice with everything.
No, no. We'll go to an Italian restaurant and I'll be like, do you have any rice?
And they look at her. Like, she's from a different planet. They're like, obviously not. No, we do pasta.
It's a pizza restaurant, sis. That is me. That is literally me.
All the Italians are like, Aranchini.
Not quite.
The top tip on how to make good rice.
Wash it three times before you cook it.
Don't do this finger.
I don't like this finger rule because I always think it's either too much or too.
Like it's just not the good measurement.
So just put all the fucking water you want in it.
And then when it's cooked, drain the water in a sieve and then wash the rice with boiling hot water.
Wash it under the sink until all that starch.
Let it sit.
Let it rest.
Five, seven minutes.
Then you'll have nice fluffy rice.
Okay?
Give it a try and let me know.
Amen.
Love thinking outside.
the box and using a fork to get rid of your...
Really love that, inventive.
Love. Love. Love, self-love.
Good. Love that. Love working on that.
Love, love, love the galleys remembering to have dinner. Love. Love. Love the fact that
dancing is your passion and that's giving you so much purpose in life.
Really love that. Love to be able to do a high kick on my God. Oh my God, what I'd pay to be
able to do that. Well, I did say that I was going to start dancing again, but alas. We've been very busy.
Don't worry. Things we didn't love. Pumping on your wedding day. Not breast pumping. Weight pumping. Bicepumping. Glute pumping. Any pumping. Each to their own but I just think rest day. One day of beginning that you could rest. Of your life I think that you could rest. Wedding day. The only thing I could get behind maybe is like a yoga session in the morning. Because if you're a bit nervy. Yeah. But sometimes I find too much breath is actually like sometimes you can be too aware.
Say it again. I had that.
for a long time. I was almost too zen.
Like there was too much
head space. Also, sometimes, and I
used to go to those fucking hot yoga classes.
That's not zen. Okay,
but even like, the breathing,
I would come out feeling really anxious
because I would be like, God, I...
Okay, I think it's, this is what I mean, I'm mental.
Like, I'm breathing wrong.
Oh yeah, you'd be worried you'd be worried
I was doing it wrong. You can't do it.
I was doing it wrong.
You can do it like, not quite right,
but you can't do it wrong.
Didn't love Olivia and Hanny not being
pranked. Didn't love that. Yeah. Yes. Why are they not more prankable? We'll get better.
We'll get better. Also, we've got any ideas. Good. But guys, I think we need, what I think the key with
them is it can't be off the cuff. We need to lay the groundwork before. Amen. So if you can think of a
long-term prank, we will aim to deliver. Yes. It needs to be like a year in the making
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