Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Furious Law Firm Beats Trump to a Pulp in Major Case
Episode Date: May 27, 2025The law firm of Jenner and Block, whom Trump tried to effectively give the death penalty to and put out of business because he doesn’t like their clients and lawyers, obtained ON THE SAME DAY, an in...junction from Judge Bates blocking the Trump Administration from putting them out of business, and an injunction from Judge Burrows blocking Trump from putting Harvard out of business. Michael Popok provides his analysis that Trump really is a “uniter” — only emboldening courageous law firms to take on his Administration and zealously fight for righteous causes. Yes, that’s a backfire you hear in the distance… Pacagen: Get 15% OFF your order plus a special gift at https://Pacagen.com/legalaf Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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You don't want to miss out. Say, Donald Trump is a great unifier. He brings people together in a way that even he couldn't
anticipate. See, he's gone after law firms, one in particular named Jenner and Block. I know the
firm well. I know the lawyers there well. In a retaliatory move. He doesn't like the fact that
Jenner and Block has taken positions against Trump and against
the Trump administration.
So he tried to put him onto a crap list.
He tried to give them a scarlet letter, tried to bar clients from using General Block for
matters before the federal government, federal agencies, federal prosecutions, and federal
courthouses.
And then another federal judge at the end of last week, leading into the
Memorial Day weekend, Judge Bates said, no.
Summary judgment, permanent injunction granted.
The Trump administration has violated Jenner and Block's first, fifth,
and sixth amendment privileges.
But what is the cosmic justice that's happened?
What's the unification that I was referring to at the top of this hot take?
General Block is representing Harvard University against Donald Trump
and basically in the same one week stretch in which it's got its own injunction.
I love this. I love this part.
The law firm got its own injunction in its favor,
blocking Donald Trump from retaliating against it.
At the same time, they obtained an injunction on behalf of Harvard University to stop Donald
Trump from getting rid of all of those pesky international students that Harvard University
relies upon for research and for basically to support its university. It makes Harvard,
Harvard, gender and blocking Harvard together again. Of course, they're joined by another law firm,
Quinn Emmanuel, who also has the,
a little bit of notoriety because one of its lawyers,
William Burke, that runs the entire Quinn Emmanuel firm,
up until about a month ago
when he was dumped by Donald Trump,
his firm was the Ethics Council for the Trump Organization. That's an oxymoron. Trump Organization and Ethics Council. Those two things go together like peanut butter and sardines.
All right, let's jump into what's happened. The coming together
people, fair-minded people joining together to defend each other.
Lawyers and law firms who just won their own injunction getting another injunction on behalf of a client. Jenner and Block in Harvard right here on the Midas Touch Network and Legal AF on Michael Popak.
While I got you, take a minute, take a receipt with you that you're defending democracy by
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Let's talk about it. So Judge Bates, a judge, senior status judge in the District of Columbia, DC Federal Court.
He just issued on the 23rd of May,
we covered it here in the Midas Touch Network,
this injunction, 52 pages, a memorandum of opinion.
Now you may recall back in April,
he entered what's called a temporary restraining order,
and we'll do a little teachable moment here.
That's sort of moving up the food chain.
You start with an administrative stay,
you move to a temporary restraining order,
then a preliminary injunction, then a permanent injunction.
And it generally blocks somebody
from doing something negative against you
or continuing to do it negative against you.
Now, one of the things in the temporary restraining order
mode that Judge Bates ordered the federal government
and Pam Bondi in particular
for the Department of Justice to do,
was to, as all federal judges do, was to inform the rest of the government about the existence
of the temporary restraining order. You know, the government's a big apparatus. It's gotten smaller
in the last 150 days, but it still has tens of thousands of employees. And so to remove any
ambiguity about the application of a federal order,
the judge ordered that the Department of Justice, and Judge Bates in particular, ordered the
Department of Justice inform the rest of the remaining components of the government about
his temporary restraining order. Pam Bonney didn't like it. They got this thing. It's
like a verbal tick. They keep calling judges who are by their very nature unelected, unelected federal judges, unelected federal judges,
unelected federal judges.
Cause they want to make that in stark contrast
to Donald Trump who, you know, to continue the narrative,
the fake narrative, the mythology of Donald Trump
that he's created for himself.
You know, he was born in the log cabin that he himself built,
you know, that kind of thing.
You know, they like to say,
he was elected at a landslide
mandate by the American people.
False.
You want to see a landslide mandate?
Go back to FDR, go back to Ronald Reagan, who won every state, but one.
But Donald Trump, I mean, I don't want to say he just barely won, but he,
you know, he won the seven battleground states.
I get you.
And he won the popular vote.
Ooh, I gotcha.
All right.
So for that, he's like, he's elected and he's unelected. Yeah. Our federal wake up everybody. Our federal judiciary is unelected.
I know Pam Bondi plied her trade and cut her teeth down in Florida where we have a lot of
elected officials, the elected judiciary, many state court courts, all the way up to the Supreme
Court of a state may be elected. Some of
them are appointed by the governor, that's the general way, but in
Miami for instance, Broward County, Palm Beach County, in Florida, in Florida, you
run to be a judge. You don't even have to be a lawyer, you know, and then you get
elevated maybe by the governor to a district court position or an appellate
court position up to the United States Supreme Court, up to the Supreme Court of that state,
something like that.
And that's how you move.
But the federal level, you are picked by the president.
Got somebody to blame?
Blame this president or the past presidents.
You get picked by the president,
you get confirmed by the Senate, and that's how it works.
So to keep calling them the unelected judiciary
is ridiculous.
So she issues her own memo
which I have a copy of right here and I'll post in our legal AF sub stack. And here's what she says
and this is more, this is a political screed masquerading as a memo and it ended up being
filed back with the judge. Subject court injunction against certain provisions of executive order
14246 is about general block.
On March 28th, 2025, an unelected district judge again invaded the policymaking and the
speech, free speech prerogatives of the executive branch, including requiring the attorney general
and the office of management and budget director to pen a letter to the head of every executive
department and agency.
Local district judges lack this authority.
I don't agree with that, nor does the Supreme Court.
And the Supreme Court should swiftly constrain
these judges blatant overstepping of their judicial powers.
I mean, there is an issue
up at the United States Supreme Court
about nationwide injunctions.
It was brought forward in the birthright citizenship case.
We're still waiting for a ruling on that,
but I assure you, I'll bet dollars to donuts,
that they're not gonna take away the ability
of a federal judge to order that parties,
including a governmental entity,
give notice within the government of his injunction.
In this particular case, she continued,
a local district judge, that's Judge Bates,
has mandated that the attorney general
and the OMB director personally send the below notification about General Block, a law firm committed to the
weaponization of justice, discrimination on the basis of race, radical gender ideology, and other
anti-American pursuits. That is blasphemous. That is defamatory.
The fact that I have to talk about an attorney general from her perch attacking a law firm
in America based on their diversity hiring and their success in the courtrooms is mind-boggling.
She has the whole beginning part, of course the judge didn't tell her to do, and then
goes into per the court order, I'm notifying you of the order or what it means.
And then she has her position statement
and remains the executive branch's position
that it was necessary, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, so that's our memo.
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Now we've got the 52 page order of Jenner and Block.
Now Jenner and Block waiting for this order
and already having the temporary restraining order
jumped into Harvard.
They didn't have to run into the burning building,
but Harvard needed protecting.
Harvard the number one or the oldest university in America, one of the most prestigious, I
think they'd end up in anybody's top five if not higher.
And they have international students study at Harvard.
Donald Trump didn't like how they acted during a very small group of graduate students and other third parties that came onto campus
and had First Amendment expression in protests
against Israel and concerning the war with Hamas.
I didn't like some of the things that were said on campus,
but I'll defend to my last dying breath
their ability to say it under the First Amendment,
as long as they're not card
carrying members of a terrorist organization. And so bedsheets spray painted with slogans in a tent
city really don't bother me in America. But it did Donald Trump and he decided to go after all
international students in all of Harvard and try to take away billions of dollars of their aid
and cut the pipeline between themselves and foreign students, which make up 25% of their
student body, 50% of their school of diplomacy, 25% of their school of business school, and the
rest. And so, Jenner and Block didn't have to go into that fight, didn't have to join with Quinn
Emanuel, didn't have to join with Robert Herr, the former US attorney
that worked for Donald Trump and who was a Harvard graduate,
but they did.
See, it's backfiring on Donald Trump, sure.
There's more than a dozen law firms
that bent the knee and pre-negotiated
and tried to avoid Donald Trump going after them.
And how's that going for him?
There's plenty of reports that associates
who do the heavy lifting on pro bono cases do not want to go near and will not be
forced to work on pro bono cases for radical right-wing organizations and MAGA because
Donald Trump obtained a billion dollars worth of free legal services from some of these law firms.
Kudos to Jenner and Block for fighting back. In fact, Judge Bates mentions it in his order.
He says, they've done amazing work
and other law firms have not.
And so he has permanently enjoined the government
from going after Jenner and Block
and denying them the ability to apply their trade as lawyers,
saying it's a violation of the First,
the Fifth, and the Sixth Amendment.
Here's what he says in his, let me just read to you from the top of the order.
In our constitutional order, Judge Bates writes, few stars are as fixed as the principle that
no official can prescribe, which shall be orthodox in politics.
What's fair game in politics is something you can't compel by order as a government.
And in our constitutional order, few actors are as central to fixing that star as lawyers.
This case arises from one of a series of executive orders targeting law firms that in one way or
another did not bow to the current presidential administration's political orthodoxy. Like the
others in the series,
this order, which takes aim at the global firm, Jenner & Block, makes no bones about why it chose
its target. It picked Jenner because of the causes Jenner champions, the clients Jenner represents,
and a lawyer Jenner once employed. Going after law firms in this way is doubly violative of the
Constitution, most obviously retaliating against firms
for their views embodied in their legal work
and thereby seeking to muzzle them going forward
violates the First Amendment central command
that government may not use the power of the state
to punish or suppress this favored expression.
More subtle, but perhaps more pernicious
is the message that the order sends the lawyers
whose unalloyed advocacy protects against governmental viewpoint becoming government
imposed orthodoxy.
This order, like the others Judge Bates wrote, seeks to chill legal representation the administration
doesn't like, thereby insulating the executive branch from the political check fundamental
to the separation of powers. They wanted to castrate General Block, sideline them, and not have them oppose
the Trump administration. And that didn't work because General Block has bigger
brass horns than Donald Trump. And they said, we're a law firm that's founded on
ethical principles and zealous advocacy and we're going to defend Harvard University against you.
So I want to celebrate in this hot take the twin accomplishment of Jenner and Block in
effectively the same week to obtain on one, I think they were like 48 hours apart, their
own injunction blocking the Trump administration from attacking them, while at the same time
obtaining against Harvard another temporary restraining order issued by
Judge Burroughs in Massachusetts, stopping Donald Trump from cutting off international student flow
to Harvard University. That is a twofer that I can get behind, and hopefully you can too.
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