Legal AF by MeidasTouch - HIDDEN EVIDENCE at Mar-a-Lago UNCOVERED in Shocking New Report

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

Former Prosecutor and Host of Legal AF, Karen Friedman Agnifilo, reports on why the ruling from the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals may be taking so long, and what it ultimately means for the prosecutio...n of the former president. Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to https://TryMiracle.com/LEGALAF and use the code LEGALAF to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF. Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:29 Fairly surprising, I would say, shocking news coming out of ABC News that through questioning of witnesses by the special counsel by Jack Smith, those witnesses are reporting back that what Jack Smith and his people are questioning them about is that there were two rooms at Mar-a-Lago that the FBI did not search when they searched inside the residence for the classified documents. Very, very, very shocking to me that the FBI would not search every room that could possess these documents. But apparently, Jack Smith's team questioned the witnesses about a closet and a hidden room inside Trump's bedroom. And that Mar-a-Lago, when they searched it in August of 2022, the
Starting point is 00:03:21 FBI didn't open either of those secret compartments. The closet was locked, the FBI knew about it, but apparently they didn't know about the secret compartment, but other witnesses came forward when they were being questioned by Jack Smith and told Smith about it and told them that the FBI, when they came in August of 2022, missed these two critical August of 2022 missed these two critical and just crucial areas, right? Where else are you going to hide the biggest, most important secrets you would think in a locked closet or a secret hiding space? You wouldn't think in the bathroom or the ballroom where many of these top, top, top secret really important national security information and documents were stored that were remarked classified.
Starting point is 00:04:10 You wouldn't think they would be strewn about the way the photos have shown for all to see. But I wonder and clearly Smith wonders what's in these other rooms because he was questioning witnesses about it. Obviously Mar-a-Lago is a big, giant place. Obviously, they didn't search every single place at Mar-a-Lago. There's public spaces. There's hotel rooms. And there's all kinds of places they didn't search.
Starting point is 00:04:35 But in the area that they had asked permission for a judge and a judge found that both there was probable cause to believe that a crime occurred and probable cause to believe that evidence of the crime would be located in certain locations in Mar-a-Lago. These are two areas within that location, within the designated location that the FBI was not only permitted to search, but was supposed to search to look for all of this stolen and ill-possessed material that he was no longer allowed to have, even if he had had clearance and could possess it.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And even if Mar-a-Lago was a temporary skiff, you know, a secure location where he could keep it while he was president, at a certain point when he was no longer president and the National Archives informed him that these things were missing and that he wasn't allowed to possess them, at that point, you gotta give him back. Not only do you have to give him back, you certainly can't obstruct and move them
Starting point is 00:05:36 and hide them in secret places, which is what the allegations are in the Mar-a-Lago documents case. It's not just, oh, he possessed things, right? It's that he unlawfully possessed them and he intentionally withheld them and lied about it and had others lie about it. So really what ABC News is describing
Starting point is 00:05:57 in this really shocking reporting, if it's true, which I assume it is, is A, that the FBI missed it, B, that Jack Smith knows about it and is questioning about it, and C, that clearly they must suspect there's something in there or they wouldn't be asking witnesses about it to try to find out. Many of you might be asking or wondering to yourselves, could Jack Smith go back in to Mar-a-Lago with another search warrant to look in those two locations to see what is in there now, now that they know about it, now that they missed it. So there's a certain concept in the law of search warrants, which is staleness. So if information that
Starting point is 00:06:41 you have, it can't be stale. And at a certain point, this was August of 2022, now it's a year and a half later, that information would be stale unless the witnesses he's questioning have seen those rooms or have reason to believe, talk to somebody that there is, that there's contraband in there or evidence of a crime in there,
Starting point is 00:07:03 and that it's fresh, that it's somethingband in there or evidence of a crime in there, and that it's fresh, that it's something that is still there. And so those are legal standards that he would have to meet if he wanted to go back in and search it again. But the sources that we're talking to ABC basically said that the closet was locked on the day of the search, and it should have been opened and it should have been checked, but that the investigators later learned that Trump had the closet's locks changed. Okay?
Starting point is 00:07:34 Talk about consciousness of guilt. He had the locks changed while his attorney, Evan Corcoran, was in Mar-a-Lago's basement looking for these classified documents and storage, where he was told that all such documents would be. But apparently, Trump was trying to conceal these documents from the FBI and Evan Corcoran. And that is what these allegations are about, is that he lied to his own lawyer and that he lied to the FBI, had locks changed and moved things around so that his lawyer wouldn't find them to turn them over. I don't know, that's probably the best consciousness
Starting point is 00:08:09 of guilt evidence I could ever have as a prosecutor. I mean, it is absolutely covering up a crime. And so it's a little shocking to me that the FBI didn't search the locked closet that they knew existed. They didn't know that there was a hidden room. It was apparently behind a dresser, this hidden room. And they didn't know about it.
Starting point is 00:08:34 But again, if this was me or you and they were searching our house or our apartment, anyone who's ever had their house searched, they kind of sometimes can make a huge mess. They move furniture around, they look in drawers, you've seen it on TV, right? They're looking through things and they kind of toss the mattresses upside down and, you know, but of course it's the former president, so they can be very careful. They were very deferential. They even apparently wore casual clothes like khakis and not their usual raid jackets when they went and executed the search warrant so that they could not disrupt very much.
Starting point is 00:09:08 So clearly they were once again treating Donald Trump. You know, he claimed what was the word he used that he was was being that was under siege or I can't remember what histrionic dramatic words he used to describe this extremely polite and careful search where they didn't want to upset him in any way and even dressed a certain way and so careful that they didn't move any furniture to find this hidden room and they didn't open up this locked closet, which that's the one that's surprising to me the most. But apparently after the search, several months later, the federal prosecutors literally found out about this
Starting point is 00:09:53 by talking to witnesses. And they are asking them about it, and they're reporting back. And that's how people are getting this information. And I assume that's how ABC are getting this information. And alleged, I assume that's how ABC is getting this information. And it's just one more example of Donald Trump getting away with stuff and being treated differently than others. Did you know that your temperature at night
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Starting point is 00:12:11 there's a lot of meetings that go into planning the execution of a search warrant. We call that a TAC plan or a tactical plan where they would have looked at plans of Mar-a-Lago. They would have talked to people who can talk, tell them what are the areas and where things are. They would have photographs and they would have a plan of which FBI agents are responsible for going to which rooms, who's searching for what. When you have a search warrant and you're allowed to, so for example, if this search warrant said you
Starting point is 00:12:45 could find papers, you're only allowed to look places that could hold papers. So if you found a little jar, for example, that was this small and you were like, oh, I'm curious what's in it, you can't open it. That would actually, that's not within the scope of the warrant because it's not reasonable that a piece of paper could be in there, for example. And I'm just making this up because I haven't seen the warrant, the affidavit and the warrant, which is what would describe exactly what evidence they were allowed to look for
Starting point is 00:13:13 and what they had probable cause for. But essentially that it is being reported that when the agents reached the locked closet near the front of Trump's residence. They couldn't locate a key for it. And they were told that the space behind the door, an old stairwell turned into a closet with shelves went nowhere. So they decided not to break it open. Okay, again, anybody else, they break that open, they break open the lock, and they go in there and see what it is. And the FBI didn't do more because they felt like they'd been at Mar-a-Lago long enough.
Starting point is 00:13:48 That's what these sources are telling ABC. And of course the FBI disputes that, I don't know. And look, they had discussions that day about additional areas on the property and it was determined that their actions met the parameters of the search warrant already and they decided not to. So look, the FBI is, in my opinion, among the best law enforcement there is.
Starting point is 00:14:14 They know what they're doing. But this was tricky. You have a former president. You've got secret service people there guarding the president. It's just a dicey tricky situation. You've got bully Donald Trump that is going to, is going to come after anyone who does anything remotely stepping in a place that he would think is inappropriate
Starting point is 00:14:40 and they acted accordingly. And so it'll be, if we could ever get this case to trial, if Judge Eileen Cannon would ever allow this case to go to trial and not continue to delay things, we would see that Trump received the subpoena to get the documents, that his attorney, Evan Corcoran, was told to look for responsive documents in boxes that were in a basement storage room. But in days before Corcoran even got to Mar-a-Lago in June of 2022, Waltine Nauda, one of Trump's co-dependents, his valet, acted at Trump's direction and moved more than 30 boxes from that very storage room that Evan Corcoran
Starting point is 00:15:26 was was going to search and moved them to Trump's residence. So Evan Corcoran, the attorney, never even saw these boxes according to the indictment and he only found 38 classified documents in that storage room and gave them to the FBI. But Trump made sure that many documents that were responsive to the subpoena could not be found. Now we know why, because he was moving them. He had Waltine now to move them. And Jack Smith learned that while Evan Corcoran was in the storage room, while he's in the storage room looking for these documents, Trump asked a different Mar-a-Lago employee
Starting point is 00:16:03 to change that lock on the closet. Okay, for years the lock on the closet was managed by the Secret Service, but on June 2, 2022, Trump had it changed and wanted the key. If that is not evidence of obstruction of justice, I mean that is the smoking gun, okay? That is outrageous, that behavior. And the locked closet, they didn't go in and Trump, I guess, is lucky because something must have been in there that was so important that he changed the lock, okay? The FBI, I give them a pass.
Starting point is 00:16:38 They didn't know about the hidden secret room that was behind the dresser or whatever. But that sometimes happens when you miss it, that you might miss secret hiding places. But the fact that they didn't go into that locked closet is turning out to be a critical mistake on their part and could have had even more damaging evidence that could have been used at trial. But as I said, this consciousness of guilt evidence is just absolutely stunning and crushing. And if this case ever goes to trial, he's going to prison. So I'm
Starting point is 00:17:13 Karen Friedman, Agnifloat with Legal AF. Join me and my co-host every Wednesday and Saturday. to date on the latest breaking news and all things Midas by signing up to the Midas Touch newsletter at MidasTouch.com slash newsletter.

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