Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Judge Brutally Outsmarts Trump in Major Case
Episode Date: July 1, 2025In breaking news, Abrego Garcia has asked for and received an order that keeps him longer in federal detention to protect him from the Trump Administration deporting or removing him in the middle of t...he night away from Federal Court jurisdiction. The irony was not lost on Magistrate Judge Holmes who has ordered that Abrego Garcia remain in protective custody until his July 16th hearing before Judge Crenshaw and beyond. Michael Popok reports on this turn of affairs of a jailed person begging the court to stay in jail to be protected from the Trump Administration. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Now we got a federal judge who needs to put somebody
in protective custody in federal detention
with the marshals so that Donald Trump doesn't deport
or remove them away from federal jurisdiction.
What is the world we live in?
But thank God that Judge Holmes has decided
to put Mr. Abrego Garcia in federal detention in Tennessee and keep
him there, stash him there if you will, until at least the 16th of July when
Judge Crenshaw, the district court judge, holds a hearing. Have you ever heard of
such a thing? But this is what happens when federal judges don't believe a word
that the Trump administration and its Department of Justice say, especially
about immigration. When you have reporting out there that whistleblowers have said that the number three in the Department of Justice say, especially about immigration. When you have reporting out
there that whistleblowers have said that the number three in the Department of Justice instructed
their lawyers to lie to federal judges, not tell them the truth about people that are in immigration
detention and the like. And since Judge Holmes, the magistrate judge in the Ibrego Garcia case,
wants to protect him from being deported in the middle of the night before her boss,
her district court, Judge Crenshaw,
has an opportunity in the 16th to hold a hearing,
she's stashing him away.
And frankly, the Trump administration,
maybe to protect him from them,
has decided they're not going to oppose
keeping him in jail on the federal detention side
and the criminal side until the 16th of February.
They probably think they can't even control their own immigration police. Michael Popak
fired up on Legal AF and on the Midas Touch Network. Let's talk about Armando Abrego-Garcia.
And again, I want to make it clear. I'm not his defense lawyer. I'm not defending Armando
Abrego-Garcia. I know the facts that have been alleged.
I've seen the weakness of the evidence,
but I'm not here to defend him.
This isn't about Abrego Garcia per se.
It's about the rule of law.
It's about due process.
It's about notice.
It's about constitutional rights.
So when I say Abrego Garcia, that's just a proxy.
It is a human being,
but that's just a proxy for a concept
that I am defending. And so is obviously Magistrate Judge Holmes. Judge Zinnis orders his return from
El Salvador because he was illegally deported and removed there by Donald Trump and the
Department of Justice and Homeland Security. The Supreme Court supports her, votes 9-0 that he must be returned. Two months later,
they manufacture up an indictment for human smuggling in Tennessee from a traffic stop
three years ago, and then they finally return him. He's been in federal detention ever since,
under the US Marshals. Judge Holmes makes her ruling last week. She has no grounds on the
criminal side of the equation to keep him in
federal detention through his trial on human smuggling because he's not a flight
risk. There's no children involved and he is not going to tamper with witnesses.
At least she didn't find them. And she orders his release, understanding that he
is subject to immigration removal procedures. And now you have the Trump
administration talking out of both sides of their mouth, speaking with forked
tongue as we like to say. On one side they say, we're gonna
deport him and remove him immediately as soon as he's released from criminal
detention. On the other side of their mouth they say, no, he's gonna stand trial
in Tennessee first before we deport him. And the lawyers for Ibrigo Garcia run into the judge,
Judge Holmes, the magistrate judge, and say,
what are we supposed to do?
Is he gonna be deposed?
Is he gonna be removed
and sent away from federal jurisdiction or not?
And Judge Crenshaw, your boss, the district court judge,
the Article III judge, he says he wants him around.
He wants Ibrigo around until the 16th of
June and he has time to rule on whether or where he should go. And the magistrate
judge said, I want briefing. She got briefing. And in the briefing for the
Trump administration, I don't think they, I don't think they trust themselves.
They said, we're okay with him staying in detention through the 16th of July.
Until Judge Crenshaw has a chance to rule. Are we starting to
see the Trump administration roll back a little bit, walk it back a little bit, because of the
revelations that Department of Justice senior leadership told lawyers to lie to federal judges
while they have Emil Boves confirmation hanging in the balance? Who knows? But the magistrate judge took the bull by the horns
and said, okay, I don't see opposition from the Trump side.
Of course, Gregor Garcia wants him there.
And so we have this bizarro world
where an inmate demands to be kept in prison,
kept in detention to protect him from the government
that's trying to deport him away
from federal detention and federal jurisdiction. And that's the fear that Trump will do another,
oopsie, it was a mistake, oh, I should have had a V8. He went to a detention center and now he's in,
fill in the blank, he's in South Sudan. And Holmes doesn't want that to happen as a magistrate judge.
She needs to protect and preserve jurisdictional power of the federal court.
But have you ever heard of a prisoner,
it's not a movie,
a prisoner begging to stay in federal detention
and a judge accommodating it?
And even the prosecutor's going,
yeah, yeah, we probably can't keep track of them anyway.
We've screwed up enough.
So she signed that order about as quick as possible.
Let me read to you from the actual order.
We had a motion to delay the issuance
of an order of release.
And in it, they outlined for the court
that he should have a short delay
until July 16th or beyond. Here's what
the motion to delay says, the irony of this request is not lost on anyone. After
illegally removing Mr. Abrego to El Salvador, the government retrieved him,
brought him to this district, Tennessee, and indicted him on baseless charges.
Mr. Abrego has spent the last two weeks contesting this.
In a just world, he would not seek
to prolong his detention further,
and yet the government, a government that has at all levels
told the American people that it is bringing Abrego back home
to face American justice, apparently has little interest
in actually bringing this case to trial.
Instead, it has chosen to bring Abrego back only
to convict him in the court of public opinion.
The government has done so while allowing a cooperator with two felony convictions and five prior deportations to be released.
That's the cooperating witness against Abrego.
And the judge took a look at everything and here's her order.
As noted by the, she says this on page one, as noted by the district judge, the question of whether the government
has made the proper showing
to trigger the statutory authority
to detain Kilmer Abrego Garcia is axiomatic,
is important because it is axiomatic
that an individual has a strong interest in liberty.
She then points out that
based on purported conflicting statements by the government,
specifically that it intends to deport him
and it intends to try him in the United States
before deportation, the court has considered on page three,
she says, the basis for the motion,
which is that perceived conflict.
And noting that,
Abrego seeks to do process to which he is constitutionally
and statutorily entitled,
namely whether the government can make the necessary showing under the Bail Reform Act
for the detention pending trial.
And since she recognizes on page four that the relief sought keeps staying in jail, the
jail wanting to stay in jail is not being opposed by the government. She will grant it.
She wants him separated
from the general population in the prison.
She wants him to have regular, she's ordering,
these are conditions of him being sent
and kept in detention,
that he be give allowed free access
and reasonable opportunity for private consultation
with his lawyers,
and that the federal marshals make sure he appears
for the July 16th hearing in front of Judge Crenshaw.
Extraordinary, but we cover it right here
on Minus Touch and on Legal AF.
So until my next report, which will be a followup
on the Obregail Garcia case, I am Michael Popak.
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