Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Judge to Make MAJOR RULING on Georgia Prosecutor

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

A Fulton County criminal judge will decide in February whether Fulton County DA Fani Willis should be disqualified and the indictment against Trump and others dismissed, because of an alleged affair she is having with a special prosecutor on the case. Michael Popok of Legal AF explains why there is no ethical conflict, even if the allegations are true warranting that the Grand Jury’s indictment be dismissed, and that this falls into the category of another racist and misogynistic attack on a strong, black woman prosecutor, and political enemy of Donald Trump, leading to a feeding frenzy being led by Trump’s MAGA supporters in Congress. Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to https://TryMiracle.com/LEGALAF and use the code LEGALAF to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF. Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bet on the NFL with Bandual, official sports put partner of the NFL. Download the app today to see why we're North America's number one sports book. 19-plus and physically located in Ontario. Gamling Problem Call 18665-312-600 of VisitConnectSentario.ca This is Michael Popock, Legal Laugh. It's the taking down strong black women who are after you season, apparently. And the latest victim is Fawni Willis, Fountain County District Attorney, who is now the subject of a salacious and ungrounded motion to have

her removed. And the indictment against Donald Trump, and of course 14 co-conspirators dismissed because G. May or May not have some sort of personal relationship with Nathan Wade, the special prosecutor from private practice that she appointed to take the lead in prosecuting Donald Trump. Let me unpack all of it and tell you where we are with new reporting, the Judge Scott McAfee. It's interesting to him only because the motion to disqualify the Fony Willis, her entire prosecution team, Nathan Wade, and have the indictment against the Cokid Spiritors, this motion filed by Mike Roman, who's in deep, deep trouble, based on the cooperating allegations made by Ken Chesbro, a now who's now played guilty, a convicted felon, related

to it. And Mike Roman being the election day coordinator for Donald Trump. He was the mule that actually coordinated the fake elector certificates and collecting them and bringing them through a complicated route through members of Congress and their staff to deliver them to Mike Pence to try to pressure him to overturn the will of the people, that Mike wrote, man. And so, you know, basically hitting rock bottom morally, ethically and legally, they decide to file this particular motion. And now Scott McAfee, the judge, has said, well, let's let Miss Willis respond. She has not responded to it.

Let her do it formally and oppose the motion to disqualify, and then I'll hold a hearing maybe sometime in February in the meantime. Pardon me, the case continues. So what do we have in terms of facts, and how does it relate, and let me give you the analysis to an ability of a defendant to dismiss a case, an indictment brought not by the prosecutor, but by a grand jury, an indicting grand jury. And let's first put the allegations on the table,

talk about why I don't think this would happen if this was a white man or anybody but a black female. This is now the second or third attempt to take down and destabilize Fonny Willis from the very beginning. We had a group of, if you recall, we had a group of Congress men basically in the house of Georgia who tried to remove Faudi-Willis and that failed. And the governor of the state, Kemp stepped in and stopped that from happening. Then you have right on time, you've got

Comer and Jordan in the in the Magahouse who then send letters demanding that funny willist step aside and come appear before their congressional committees and talk about why she's prosecuting a former president as if it's any of their business or part of any of their jurisdiction on the judiciary committee or the House Oversight Committee, which it is not. And so we've already heard that. And now the latest one is something that's ripped out of a, sounds like a lost episode of the Godfather trilogy. You know, let's accuse Fawney Willis of sleeping with her special prosecutor and then and then act like that matters to anything that the grand jury found and indicted these people for.

So the allegations that were raised by Mike Roman and his lawyers, Ashley Merchant, in the filing say that Fony Willis is in a romantic relationship with Nathan Wade, or the way to put it. Nathan Wade was in private practice, He served as a municipal judge. It also had his own, you know, criminal defense practice. And he was selected by Flaudney Willis for reasons that are known to her to handle the case, not unusual for a prosecutor to appoint a special prosecutor who's not full-time job working for that department. Jack Smith has a number of people who have left temporarily private practice in order to

serve on his team, and they serve as special prosecutors who are really focused on one case. So that's not unusual. I mean, it's background. When we saw it, I wasn't sure that that was the person that had the most racketeering influence and corrupt organization act experience, which is the heart of the case, the Rico case against Donald Trump. But I'm sure she had some very good reasons for it. And he's earned, you know, um, billing the state and, um, he's earned this Nathan Wade, I don't know, 650,000,

seven hundred thousand dollars for almost two years of work, which is not in the world that I operate in. A lot of fees probably could have made more in private practice, but I assume he was paid an honest dollar for an honest day's work and his team. And so we have that. But the allegations in the motion go further. They say that there's a romantic relationship and therefore in order to put money in line, the pockets of her boyfriend, that Fony Willis is keeping this indictment and this prosecution alive that should have been dismissed. And, you know, she's benefiting from it because they're going away to, I don't know, where the Caribbean or whatever the arguments are.

Look, from an ethical standpoint, I'll speak to you now as a lawyer, which I think you appreciate here on the Galaeath. There's no ethical conflict or appearance of impropriety by a prosecutor having any kind of relationship with a special prosecutor in her office who doesn't regularly work there who's handling a case. I don't care if the case is Donald Trump, you know, V Donald Trump or V, you know, fill in the blank. It doesn't matter. If she was having a relationship with, or he was having a relationship with somebody

on the other side like the defense lawyers, like one of these movie plots, where the prosecutor and the defense lawyer are really sleeping together, and it's impacting negatively the justice because the case is being compromised. Deals are being caught that have nothing to do with justice, but because of the romantic relationship.

Wow, that sounds like a great, I go see that movie, but that's not what's going on here. You know, the fact that she's going away, if she did to the Caribbean with, you know, a person who's coming out of a divorce, I really don't see it. To be clear, it matters to me that the indictment was brought as a result of a process that started with a special purpose grand jury, which is what they use in Georgia for investigative and advisory purposes, and then an inditing grand jury. So you have a grand jury who was presented evidence, real evidence, documents, records, audio, video, and other, another, and testimony, expert testimony before they indicted.

And then they chose to indict Donald Trump and at the time 14 or 15 other people, including Mike Roman. What does it have to do with Nathan Wade, you know, sip in a cocktail with Fanny Willis somewhere? If it doesn't have anything to do with it, in the fact that we're talking about it is exactly what they want. And then of course, then you have the entire MAGA machine trying to protect Donald Trump, their fearless leader. And so now you've got, again, James Comer and Jim Jordan, subpoening to get information for Fauddie Willis and Marjorie Taylor Green, who I guess ostensibly serves some district in Georgia, arguing that all things should be dismissed because, oh my God, maybe she had

an affair with Nathan Wade. I don't even like that word. And then Nathan Wade's in the middle of a divorce. So they're going after what he's, what he is filed in terms of his financials in the divorce proceeding. And now the wife, ex-wife is going and subpoening Faudi Willis to testify in her case.

I mean, the whole thing has become, you know, just this went south, no pun intended quickly for this issue. But let's strip it all away. And let me answer the questions. Popok, is this an ethical violation under the Georgia Rules of Professional Conduct? I don't see it because they're on the same side of the V, so to speak. Did it impact, in any way, the criminal defendants right to a fair trial or that this is some sort of witch hunt prosecution? No.

There was an inditing grand jury who was presented evidence and they made the decision to indict, not Fony Willis. Let's be clear. Prosecutors don't indict. Prosecutors can indict by way of what we call an information, which is sort of a complaint, but they generally don't do it. And under Georgia law, you have to go to a grand jury for these types of claims and you get an indictment. So she didn't indict Donald Trump.

Grand jury indicting Donald Trump. She's just prosecuting on behalf of the people of the state of Georgia against Donald Trump and the others like Mike Roman. So you got that sort of cleansing event of the use of the grand jury to make sure and to ensure that a criminal defendant's rights and of the Sixth Amendment to a fair and impartial trial and jury of his peers in that community is going to rule the day. Did you know that your temperature at night can have one of the greatest impacts on your sleep quality? If you wake up too hot or too cold, I highly recommend you check out Miracle Mades

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I'm sure that Steve say it out of the lawyer for Donald Trump's good. It's kind of jump on the bandwagon as well. All the other defendants who have lawyers, some have lost their lawyers recently, they'll be really adding. I'm sure we'll do it. Ha ha. And then Scott McAfee and we'll fortunately in Georgia, one of the few places that we report on has a live feed on you too, which we will post on the Midas Touch Network again. We'll hold a hearing. I don't know in February after the full briefing.

We'll report on the briefing along the way too. And he'll hear about, is this a witch hunt going the other way against a strong black woman again who was going after Donald Trump. Where have we heard this before? Letitia James, New York attorney general, how hard, disgustingly, relentlessly, misogidously, a misogynistically racially does Donald Trump go after Letitia James, the New York attorney general, including just recently and has, and has blurted out closing argument, non-closing argument in and the New York civil fraud case.

She happens to be, I know, and I think she happens to be. She is a strong black woman that's going after Donald Trump. He likes to use racial tropes in terms against her, including calling her effectively jiggaboo, which is a terrible, terrible slur of black people, calls her peekaboo instead, just so you, you know, you know what he's saying without him actually saying it. He uses the word rigor, r-i-j-j-e-r, rigor, that meaning the people that rig the elections, but that, of course, sounds like another word that I'm sure he would like to say. And now you've got Fawney Willis, who's going to, you know, this is playing into the old horrible tropes from slavery days. And before that, you know, blacks and their,

you know, black people and their sexual relationships and, you know, overcomes their ability to, you know, use their minds to prosecute a case. I mean, it's a disgusting you know use their minds to prosecute a case. I mean it's a disgusting attack on the on the valor and character of Fanny Willis and I am sure of her name was Robert, you know fill in the blank. We wouldn't be having this discussion and they wouldn't have gone after her this way And so we got to call it out for what it is here on the Midas Touch Network on without blowing smoke or sunshine. And the next steps, of course, we're going to be covering a lot of what is maggot doing

towards Fondi Willis, what is Marjorie Taylor green doing towards Fondi Willis, what is the House Oversight Judiciary Committee doing to Fawli Willis? What's happening in the Nathan Wade divorce proceeding and Fawli Willis? But we're losing sight of the fact that Donald Trump is indicted by a grand jury after a special purpose grand jury recommended his indictment to the grant to the prosecutor, who used the special purpose grand jury for seven months under a lot of political pressure. She lost a lot of political capital because people thought that Fony Willis wasn't moving quick enough to indict Donald Trump.

Instead, she said, I'm gonna take a cautious approach, a sober approach. Of course, we all forget about that. Now, I'm gonna use a special purpose grand jury, a special device and process under Georgia law to allow them to advise me as to whether I should seek an indictment from an indicting grand jury. And she's put on evidence for seven months and witnesses and people testified and Rudy

Giuliani testified Lindsey Graham testified and all these other people testified and some of the defendants testified. Some of them took the Fifth Amendment time and time and time again and documents were presented in that special purpose grand jury reached a ruling and issued a report and Said that I'll up to 15 people should be indicted and she didn't even seek the indictment of those 15 people actually They wanted like 25 people she ended up getting and she made used Prosecutorial discretion to narrow it when she made her ultimate decision. Okay, that's good advice Thank you.

I see the report. And then she said, you know, indictments are imminent. She took more pressure and more flock because it took her another four months to get the grand jury up and running after that because she was working in between. She was working on developing her case. Yes, she had the special purpose grand jury report, but there was more work to be done. There are more witnesses to turn more more witnesses to cooperate with the state. She got more witnesses to cooperate.

And the Jack Smith's investigation was going further. And therefore, she did another several week period of a grand jury and then got an indictment. So, it's not like a rush to judgment, or that the prosecutor indicted Donald Trump. That was the headline. She did not. She used this process, this sober, mature process to make a very momentous decision about Donald Trump and others. That's the funny willis that we should be talking about. But she does off hours, the very few off hours that she has and who she does it with, it's completely and totally irrelevant, under

the scenario that I just described. But we're going to continue to hear about it, and it's going to be in the news and we're going to continue to follow it here, but follow it in our way, in a way that's reflective, that gives you information that you can use in your in variable in your invariable disputes and discussions, inevitable ones with friends and family about these issues. But hold on to these immutable facts. A jury indicted Donald Trump and the others after hearing witness testimony in evidence. A special purpose grand jury spent seven months and made the decision to recommend the indictment of Donald Trump. They said nothing to do with Fawni Willis. That's the reason she's prosecuting the case

because of those twin things, all supervised by a Fulton County judge, Judge McBerney, who was at the time, the chief judge of Fulton County. And now there's a trial judge that also protects the rights of the accused in the form of Scott McAfee. Sure, he's got to take it seriously. He's got to have the motion fully briefed. He's got to have an

evidentiary hearing. He's got to make a ruling. Now, there is, I'll just leave you on this. There was one other instance where Fawni Willis got her hand slapped by, at the time, Chief Judge McBernie, about an aspect of the prosecution and claiming that there was a conflict of interest. And let me just put it on the table so that you understand in case you hear it. There was a fun razor because, you know, let's be frank, these prosecutors are political creatures as well. They're elected officials. She's a Democrat public.

As they are in most states, you know, you have a nonpartisan. You vote for on a ticket line, who you want for your state prosecutor, your local prosecutor. And there was a person that she supported and was on the fundraising committee for, I think she hosted something maybe even at her home, who was running against one of the state senators who was at the time a fake elect, who was a fake elector and was part of the prosecution. And so after hearing all the evidence, Judge McBerney basically took Fony Willis's team

and her off that particular case, didn't dismiss the indictment or the investigation, but turned it over to another independent office, somewhere else in the state. And so there's like one person that's a fake collector that Fony Willis at our office cannot go after, but some other prosecutor can. And that's the reason, that was the ethical issue

that the Judge McBernie handled. And ultimately, the governor can replace prosecutors. It happens. I mean, there was pressure on the New York governor at one point to replace Alvin Bragg, and the Manhattan district attorney that never happened. But there is the power of the governor

to replace a local prosecutor. It's not a federal right of anybody in the house, but it could be done at the governor level. But I don't see that happening either. I think the governor camp is gonna sit quietly and let Scott McAfee has been doing a good job as judge and all this matter. And we'll continue to report it.

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