Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Judge Turns the Tables on Trump in His Own $10b Lawsuit

Episode Date: July 23, 2026

When you are Trump and chase headlines and sue for “10 billion dollars” in a defamation suit, then you just “opened the door” to turning over ALL of your secret financial records to your defen...dant, and that’s what just happened in a new order issued by Federal Magistrate Judge Lett in Miami against Trump in his case against the BBC.  Popok also reports on how Judge Williams’ recent finding of bad faith by Todd Blanche, Trump, and his personal lawyers was used against Trump in the BBC case already! Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts:MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcastLegal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-afMissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trialThe PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcastCult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassanThe Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-showThe Ken Harbaugh Show: https://meidasnews.com/tag/the-ken-harbaugh-showMajority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellmanUncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:07 Post. Taste. View and enjoy. Via rail, love the way. We got our second devastating ruling against Donald Trump in Miami Federal Court. This time in his case against the British Broadcasting Corporation. See, when you want to chase headlines and put a $10 billion defamation number in, in your complaint against the BBC because they ran your words out of context,
Starting point is 00:02:37 using your own words in a short clip on a channel, a streaming channel, nobody ever watches called Panorama, and then you sue for defamation, you just opened the door to discovery about all of your finances, because they now need to defend themselves and show that you, Donald Trump, did not lose $10 billion because they ran that clip on a little watch channel. This president has made hundreds of billions of dollars while he's been president for more than 500 days. How is he possibly going to show that he has actual damage to the tune of $10 billion
Starting point is 00:03:14 because of a little watch streaming service for the BBC played his own words? But Judge Lett, the magistrate judge, has sided with the BBC. And by the way, they are coming out, no holds barred, swinging haymakers against Donald Trump and good on them. I guess Donald Trump thought because in the beginning, when Donald Trump didn't like it was sort of catty about, oh, I don't like the fact that they clipped my speech and maybe they'll give me billions of dollars or millions of dollars I can use for my library or something if I really squeeze them.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I guess because they apologized, which is a very British thing to do, They apologized for the clip. They said, yeah, we probably should have played a longer version of it. Aha, a confession, a concession. They're going to bend the knee. I don't think so. So BBC has sent out almost a hundred subpoenas on the liability side of the case
Starting point is 00:04:15 to prove that what they said and what they showed about the fight, fight, fight, is actually true, which is the primary defense to defamation. You can't sue somebody for defamation if it's true. So they're going to prove that Donald Trump led the insurrection, which means they've subpoenaed family members like Don Jr., Cindy Powell, Rudy Giuliani, Steve Bannon, Roger Stone to prove their case. And they're fighting it out right now in the District of Columbia
Starting point is 00:04:50 in front of Chief Judge Jebosberg, because Trump, of course, he likes to be, oh, I'm just a private citizen doing my defamation case over here while he's the president manipulating the Department of Justice over there. And that already got called out once by Judge Williams, another judge in the Southern District of Florida, which ends up being used by the BBC in their current case. I'm going to unpack this all. I'm Michael Popock. You're on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF. How do we get here? Let's start, before I start reading from filings and orders in the case, and Judge Lett's new order on discovery, let's just get fundamentally how we got here. Let me show you the clip that Donald Trump is suing over, okay?
Starting point is 00:05:37 His words, but he didn't like the fact they edited them. He's got a big thing about editing. Oh, Kamala Harris on 60 Minutes. They edited her word salad. Okay, well, they edited his word salad when they showed the clip. I think the premise of it is the same. I think the groviman of it is the same. I think the spirit of it is the same.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And those are the factors when you determine whether your own words can be defamatory. Play the clip. We're going to walk down to the Capitol, and I'll be there with you. And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell,
Starting point is 00:06:11 you're not going to have a country anymore. We're going to walk down to the Capitol. And we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women. But I said, something's wrong here, something's really wrong, can't have happened. And we fight. We fight like hell.
Starting point is 00:06:32 And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. All right, you just saw it side by side. That's the case, everybody. That's the $10 billion headline case. Be careful what you asked for. The law of unintended consequences are going to bite you in the butt.
Starting point is 00:06:47 And I don't know, time out here for one minute. I don't know for the life of me, having practice for all. almost got 36 years, including down in Florida, Southern District of Florida. I don't know why Donald Trump keeps filing his cases in the Miami Division. You know, he's got the person he likes in Aileen Cannon. She's in a one-judge courthouse up in Fort Pierce, also in the Southern District of Florida. Why doesn't he file it there?
Starting point is 00:07:13 He keeps filing them here. Here he's got Judge Altman, a serious guy, and he's got Judge Lett, a magistrate. Now, they tried to get rid of Judge Lett already. once. See, Judge Lett was in private practice before she was appointed by the Southern District of Florida judges to be a magistrate judge. That's one rung below a federal judge, an Article III judge. A lot of people see it as a stepping stone, training academy. A lot of people get elevated from magistrate judge to federal judge when the president of their party is in power. Or they just stay lifetime appointed or they just stay in that career as a magistrate judge for a lot, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:52 until they retire. And they're responsible in civil cases for a lot of discovery issues. That's depositions, which is questions and answers under oath in person before a court reporter, maybe a videographer, or interrogatories, which are questions and answers on paper under oath, or, you know, subpoenas, which are issued to third parties or entities to get documents relevant to the case. Sometimes they do summary judgment motions, and they write the first order related to it, or, most to dismiss. Sometimes they try cases. It all depends on what the judge assigns to them and what the parties agree to. And if the parties don't like the magistrate judge's rulings, like Judge Lett's rulings about the Donald J. Trump revocable trust documents, they can appeal it internally to the Article III judge in charge of the case, the district court judge, in this case, Judge Altman.
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Starting point is 00:10:21 which Donald Trump sued in the Southern District of Florida two and a half, three years ago, with Alina Haba. He got sanctioned a million dollars along with Alina Haba by Judge Middlebrooks because that was a bad faith filing. She represented a party in there. She made an appearance or two. She was involved in the appeal. And Donald Trump jumped up and down and said, oh, Judge Lett. Judge Lett was involved in that case where I got sanctioned, you know, peripherally. And there's nothing that bars her from handling a case.
Starting point is 00:10:51 even if she was involved with a case involving the same parties in the past, she was on the opposite side. She never engaged with then or former President Trump at the time. And that's not a grounds to disqualify. So she didn't. And so the issues that were before Judge Lett were all of these subpoenas that are out there for the BBC to prove that Donald Trump, when he said fight, fight, fight, that caused the insurrection, making their clip genuine, making it truthful. And they don't like that. So the Department of Justice of the U.S. government tried to intervene in the case, saying they have an interest to try to quash these subpoenas and exert executive privilege
Starting point is 00:11:31 because Trump was president at the time. That's being litigated up in the District of Columbia in front of Judge Bosberg. But they tried to intervene down in Miami as well. And they got called out by the BBC. Here's what the BBC said, using Judge Williams' recent ruling against the Donald Trump once again. This is under Section 4, page 5 and 6 of their filing. The government's statement to try to intervene in the case creates a conflict of interest. The government's decision to file this statement raises grave ethical concerns on par with those that Judge Williams addressed
Starting point is 00:12:09 earlier this week in Trump versus IRS. Defendant and this court have to presume in the absence of any representation by the Department of Justice that the statement was not made in dependent of the plaintiff in this case, the president, rather than assuming the statement represents the considered views of the federal agencies. After all, the president has forbidden federal agencies from, and this is quoting from Judge Williams, advancing any legal position or interpretation, however legitimate or well-reasoned, contrary to that held by the plaintiff in this matter, President Trump. The government cannot brush those concerns away merely by asserting that plaintiff filed this lawsuit in his full, in his personal capacity, because to do so is to insist that this
Starting point is 00:12:52 court accept the credulous exercise of divorcing President Trump's current job title from an understanding of what happened here, citing to Judge Williams and Trump versus the Internal Revenue Service. And here, the BBC says it's even more obvious because in the caption of the complaint itself, the style at the top, it says, President Trump as plaintiff. In the, And they continue, in the face of this conflict of interest, where plaintiff is arguing against defendant's discovery, both through his own personal lawyers and through government counsel, the only course that preserves fundamental fairness
Starting point is 00:13:27 will be to give the government statement no weight in this discovery dispute, a dispute in which, after all, the government need not have involved itself in the first place, signed the lawyers for the BBC at Ballard Spar out of Washington. So well put. What's going to happen next? If they don't like the ruling on the Trump side about having to turn over all their documents, good luck. They can take an appeal to Judge Altman. Judge Altman, I don't think is going to side with them.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I think he's going to back Judge Lett. Doesn't have to, but I think he will because the door has been completely opened by Donald Trump. That's a concept in the law, door opening. And they can't ask for $10 billion and then not let the BBC defend against it. So you can pick your own courthouse, Miami, Florida. You can try to get a judge of your choice. You can pick a defendant who you're going to sue the BBC. You can pick what claims you're going to bring against them,
Starting point is 00:14:29 but you can't tell them how to defend the case. And that's the unintentional consequences that are backfiring and biting Donald Trump on the ass. And kudos to the BBC for A, not back and down, throwing haymakers, and using Judge Williams' own ruling in the Trump versus IRS case against Trump here. We're going to continue to follow it all right here. And thank you to our audience.
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