Legal AF by MeidasTouch - NEW Filing in Giuliani Defamation Case EXPOSE More TRUMP CRIMES

Episode Date: July 12, 2023

Michael Popok of Legal AF reports on new documents just disclosed in the Federal civil defamation case against Giuliani that show the extent of the election stealing conspiracy, including how close Trump was to seizing voting machines, suspending the Constitution, and declaring Martial Law to stay in power. Go to https://neurohacker.com/LEGAL for up to 50% off Qualia Senolytic and as a listener of The LEGALAF use code LEGAL at checkout for an extra 15% off your first purchase! SUPPORT THE SHOW: Shop LEGAL AF Merch at: https://store.meidastouch.com Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/meidastouch Remember to subscribe to ALL the Meidas Media Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://pod.link/1510240831 Legal AF: https://pod.link/1580828595 The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://pod.link/1595408601 The Influence Continuum: https://pod.link/1603773245 Kremlin File: https://pod.link/1575837599 Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://pod.link/1530639447 The Weekend Show: https://pod.link/1612691018 The Tony Michaels Podcast: https://pod.link/1561049560 American Psyop: https://pod.link/1652143101 Burn the Boats: https://pod.link/1485464343 Majority 54: https://pod.link/1309354521 Political Beatdown: https://pod.link/1669634407 Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://pod.link/1676844320 MAGA Uncovered: https://pod.link/1690214260 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is Michael Popok, civil cases produce evidence that prosecutors can use in criminal cases. That's so important. I'm going to say it again, civil cases and their discovery mechanism produce documents at evidence that somebody like Jack Smith can use in criminal prosecutions. We're seeing it all over again in a civil case brought by two Fulton County election workers, uh, Shea Moss and Ruby Freeman against Rudy Giuliani, where Julie Rudy Giuliani, who's been a lawyer for, well, he's, he's now suspended in one state and soon to be disbarred in another. But was a lawyer for 50 years is screwing up the exchange of documents so badly that he's

given the opponents, the plaintiffs lawyers, the opportunity to file a motion for sanctions, which they did on 7, 11, what an unlucky date for Rudy Giuliani against him, telling the judge that Rudy Giuliani in the last 18 months has not meaningfully participated in discovery in producing documents or evidence in this case, despite his requirement under the law and court order to do so. And as a result, he should get the equivalent of a civil case death penalty. The case should be decided against him at this junction without even going to trial. That a default judgment should be entered against him because of what he's doing.

That is the first headline for the motion that was just filed by Shay Moss and Ruby Freeman's lawyers. Rudy Giuliani could likely be hit with default judgment as a result of game playing and failure to cooperate. It is good faith obligations to discovery. Headline one, headline two, is that Rudy produced privilege logs, which I'm going to explain on a little bit of a breakout session of legal AF right here, privilege logs listing in 25 pages. All of the documents he is not at the moment going to produce, but that he has it as possession,

claiming some sort of privilege, which means it has to be ultimately decided by the judge after seeing those documents in camera, a Latin way of saying only the judge gets to see them first and then decide whether they go over to the other side. Now, you're supposed to, let me give you the teaser first for the privilege log. And then I'll tell you how poorly done the privilege log was for Rudy Giuliani further compounding his problems. Firstly, let's talk about the names that are in there. Even if I don't know what's in it, this just, if you ever had any doubt in this relevant time period of the end of the election in early November through Jan 6th and beyond, Who Rudy Giuliani was working for and who was

in his, who was in his group, his gang, his civil conspiracy, his criminal conspiracy gang? Well, just look at his text message lists and you'll have no doubt. So if you go through there, you see the following names and groups and combinations of text messages. Bernie Kerrick, disgraced former police commander in New York who went to jail and was a partner, had his sentence commuted by Donald Trump, Jenna Ellis, who just barely didn't lose her law license for all the work she did with Rudy Giuliani as an incompetent election lawyer, spreading falsehoods about the election, where she had to admit to her bar association, her bar grievance committee that she told untruths about the election.

Christina Bob, right, who's cooperating with the Department of Justice and was the lawyer for Donald Trump for all things Mar-a-Lago and beyond and signed the certificate falsely claiming that everything in this envelope was all of the top secret information that Donald Trump retained at Mar-a-Lago when that was a lie. So you also have a Victoria Tensing. Victoria Tensing is a woman who practices law with her husband, right wing, maga right wing. I mean, she just posted, we'll put it up here in my hot

day. She just posted on her own social media that the arrest and the indictment in up stench because the guy fled the country to Cyprus. This spy for China of Israeli and US citizenship, that that whole Chinese illegal lobbying, arms, brokering, selling oil for the Iranians while an American citizen, that's all made up because he was also going to be a whistleblower for Joe Biden. But that, so that was her tweet we just saw. That Victoria Tensing, of course, is inside this,

you know, QAnon fake election, uh, huddle with team crazy and it's captain Rudy Giuliani while they're trying to overthrow the election at least in the court system. So Victoria Tensing, you have Catherine frees. Where is Catherine frees? We have to put her on the back of a milk carton because Catherine frees used to be a lawyer who was very proud to work with Rudy Giuliani and all the others. But she's nowhere to be found.

She's so nowhere to be found that the lawyers in this defamation case against Rudy Giuliani have moved the judge to try to serve her to find her to serve her through alternate methods. She doesn't want anything to do with this case. She's a bar member somewhere, but they can't get her served. So, but but at one time, she was happily and notoriously tweeting and texting and emailing with Rudy Giuliani. So she's in the text in the emails. Lara Logan, right, wing, maga journalist, Mark Meadows is all over these texts with Rudy Giuliani during these relevant time periods, November through January, Sydney Powell. She should be disbarred as well.

Cleed a Mitchell subject of criminal investigation by Jack Smith and the Department of Justice. Senator Townsend, why not throw him in there? Speaker of the Georgia House, Ralston. Well, we know what that one was about because that was recorded. And Faudi-Willis, the prosecutor in Fulton County is investigating this phone call between Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump, and the speaker of the House, Ralston in Georgia. Same kind of phone call that Rudy and Donald Trump made to speaker of the house Rusty Bowers at Arizona, trying to get him to throw out the election and participate in the fake electric conspiracy.

Ken Cheesebro come, come on down. You're on the text and email chain with, with Rudy Giuliani as we suspected. One of the architects of using the Jan 6 Congress hearing and fake electors to stop the peaceful transfer of power. And then you have interesting emails with with Ray line regarding lines that I'm sure Jack Smith is super excited about like a 12 16, 2020 text or email that says, 20 text or email that says, POTUS findings, POTUS. That is exactly the moment leading to the December 18th meeting in the White House that went on for six hours involving Sydney Powell, Michael Flynn, Rudy Giuliani, and the overstock.com

guy, they threw him in there to talk about suspending the Constitution, invoking martial law and seizing the election equipment in order for him to cling to power, Trump to cling to power and make presidential findings to support that conduct. So they were up to the point of presidential findings to support martial law. And that's in this cash of documents currently being with help, but soon to be sent over to the lawyers in the Shea Moss Ruby Freeman, civil defamation case. You see how I said at the top of the hot take, civil cases, as a byproduct, pay dividends that can be used in criminal cases. And we're seeing it here. Boris Epstein, there's somebody who's likely

to be indicted very soon by, by Jack Smith, currently a lawyer for Donald Trump, but that never, that never stopped anybody. I'll sue as a lawyer for Donald Trump. Either getting indicted arrested or put in jail and Boris Epstein is probably next on that list based on his conduct. He Bernie Kerrick, Jason Miller, a very close advisor to Donald Trump and Christina Bob, or having texts and emails all during the relevant time period, the head of the Republican National Committee, Ronan McDaniel, come on down. You're going to be

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Mourna Tareff, who was people saying at home? Who at Polpok, you've lost your mind? Who is murder tariff? Well, according to, um, Jenna Ellis and a tweet that she, that she put out, she, Jenna Ellis, and I got to get you the rest of this list because it's just, it's just fascinating. Or we're all part of an election integrity board, a phony election, election integrity board that was formed by Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani to run around as if they were trying to protect the election and not

steal it from Joe Biden and the voters. And on this board, which are all part of this chain of conspiracy and in the, in the emails and text message for Rudy Giuliani are, here's the list on the text. Jenna Ellis can pack. Stin the soon to be impeached attorney general of Texas, real P Navarro, Peter Navarro, who's also a subject, if not a target of criminal investigation by Jack Smith, because of his role in the fake electric scandal. Bernie Kerrick, we've talked about him already,

Seb Gorka, right wing extremist, and Mourna Tarath. Good for you, Mourna. Glad to see that Dredjoliane had an althrownia under the bus and properly revealed these things. Now, he said, at the top of the hot take, his privileged log was garbage, privileged log garbage, why? Because I've been doing this for 33 years.

And in a privilege log, you have to list enough data and information not to reveal the privilege you're allegedly protecting if you are, if you do have such a privilege, but enough for the judge and the other side to be able to have a coherent conversation about what the document is. So you don't have to reveal the privilege, but if you have a document, I'll give you an example. If Rudy Giuliani emailed Donald Trump to talk about the fake electric scandal, then it should be listed on the privilege log,

author Giuliani, recipient Donald Trump, CCs, if they're already list them, subject matter, right? Then you'd have to come up with something it doesn't reveal the privilege. A lecture certificates, I guess that would be enough, in battleground states. And then the date of that, and then you have to give it up what's called a bait's number, a serial number at the bottom. That's assigned to the case by the lawyers. So they can keep track of these things. And then you can have this debate. And the judge can take a look at it at it in camera,

which is again, she gets to see it first, not the other side, and then make the decision. But his, his log will put up one page of it. His log is completely incoherent. Sometimes he doesn't even list the people's last names. It's like Andrew. I assume one of the text is with his son, Andrew Giuliani, with all these other people, which would effectively waive the privilege.

But who knows? He puts Michael, he puts Andrew. The one that's our interesting is there doesn't seem to be any text with Potus, with Trump, which is totally ridiculous. The other thing that is hanging Rudy Giuliani on a short rope of his own making is that, remember, or let me tell you, that in cases, lawyers go out to get documents from third parties.

It's called third party discovery practice. You use a subpoena and you go to somebody like Christina Bob and say, give me all the documents you have of communications with Rudy Giuliani. And she produced those, it's so did other people. And the problem for Rudy is they produce things that he didn't produce, which means he's hiding them or he's lost them. And that's what the lawyers have said in their motion for sanctions. We don't know if he destroyed them, if he has them, if he doesn't have them,

but it doesn't matter because he had an obligation to preserve them. And you judge in March, April, in May, adherings warned him that he needed to preserve them. And his lawyers have come to court and said, well, we think we think he preserved them. We're not sure if he preserved them. Maybe he preserved them wrong. These are the wrong he preserved him. Maybe he preserved him. Wrong. These are the wrong responses in federal court to a federal judge. And then let me just bring it full circle. The federal judge that's presiding over this case, right, is barrel howl. For those that follow legal a f and hot takes like mind regularly, That name will ring a bell. She was until recently the chief judge of the DC circuit court. And when she's not trying civil cases like this one,

she had responsibility over all of the grand juries, including Jack Smith's grand juries. That's my stage voice, right? Uh, my stage whisper. And in that capacity, she evaluated whether, for instance, the crime fraud exception to the attorney client privilege applied to strip Donald Trump from attorney client privilege and therefore have those documents go to the government because they were no longer covered by privilege. And forced lawyers like Pat Sipilloni, White House General Counsel, White House Counsel, Eric Hirschman, Deputy White House Counsel, ultimately Rudy Giuliani, Evan Corcoran, Christina Bob, found that they all had a testify.

Donald Trump couldn't stop it because Donald Trump was more likely than not participating in a crime or fraud, concerning the Mar-a moral agro documents, for example, and therefore did not have the privilege, did not have the privilege of having the privilege of attorney client privilege. There's a good way to sum up one sentence

and three uses of privilege. Same thing could happen here. This judge is educated. She has a learning curve when it comes to crime, fraud, Trump, and others. So wait till the lawyers, if they don't get the default judgment that they wanted and they go for these documents, which they're going to, they tell the judge, even if you find that there was an initial proper assertion, a privilege over them, judge crime, fraud exception.

They're all participating in a crime. You know that from the work that you did your honor Related to Jack Smith's prosecutions. You see how this civil criminal ecosystem this flow these trade winds all kind of run into each other And that's what we're talking about here on this hot day. So to summarize Civil cases help criminal cases because discovery sometimes is even more extensive there. And you get golden nuggets that stumble out just the way that the dominion case against fought against Fox news, right, created dividends for Jack Smith and also got Tucker Carlson fired. Same thing here. The Ruby Freeman shame,

boss case, which shouldn't have been settled a long time ago by by Rudy Giuliani. In fact, the lawyers even mentioned that he had the potential for a settlement in his hands, and he let it slip through because he's cheap and he's stupid. And I don't care what he was in the 90s in New York. That's what he is today. And soon to be at a disgraced former lawyer and a disgrace to the profession. So they said, oh, he had, he could have had a settlement with us, but he blew it just like he's blowing the case. We shouldn't even be talking about documents that they obtained. We shouldn't even know about them. If he had settled the case, but attention, Jack Smith, if you don't already have all the

documents that they got in their discovery, go subpoena. And I'm sure they'll turn them over that day. All the documents that shea Moss and Ruby Freeman's lawyers have in their disposal from what they got from Rudy Giuliani. And since you've already taken a proffer, remember Rudy Giuliani went in two weeks ago and testified under oath, not to the grand jury, but to the Department of Justice and Jack Smith's team. He was given a queen for the day immunity, meaning as long as he doesn't lie at that moment, they won't use anything that they, he tells them against him if they decide to indict him. If they have the information independently, then there's no deal, but they won't use his exact words against him as long as he's telling the truth. Now, the prosecutors

have to have to be wondering whether based on these texts and emails that are now currently covered by privilege, but they'll be able to see soon whether he was telling the truth when he testified under oath to them. And if he wasn't, when Rudy Giuliani, not if is indicted, which I've already predicted on legal AF, they will include a new count for lying under oath to the federal government when they came in, bringing to a conclusion my hot take about how civil cases can, can positively impact just this in criminal cases. I do hot takes just like this one, connecting dots that you see and some that you don't even see. And I didn't even see until I started preparing the hot take only on the Midas Touch Network. We pull it all together in a long

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