Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Panicked Trump’s Lawsuit Over Epstein Secrets Instantly Backfires

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

More bad news for Trump and his ill-advised Miami Federal defamation lawsuit against Rupert Murdoch and the Wall Street Journal for billions of dollars—the presiding judge has been assigned and it ...is Judge Daryn Gayles, the same judge that handled Trump’s losing case against Michael Cohen. Michael Popok who knows Judge Gayles well, explains Gayles’ court room process that could end in Trump dismissing the case before it goes much further. Everyday Dose: Go to https://EverydayDose.com/LEGALAF for 45% OFF your first order! Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:29 opening the Pandora's box wide open, subjecting himself to discovery and depositions, warned statements under oath where he always does terrible. And now we've got the newest information. Basically, something that I said was going to happen during Legal AF podcast on Saturday has happened. The judge assigned to the case of Trump versus Murdoch in the Wall Street Journal, Trump versus sanity is Judge Darren Gales. I know Judge Gales very well from when he was on the Florida Miami Dade Circuit Court. It's a phenomenal judge. And you may recall that he was the judge that presided over the case that Donald Trump filed against Michael Cohen for defamation and breach of contract.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Same lawyer for Donald Trump, Alejandro Brito. Same judge, Judge Gales. I'm going to tell you why this matters on this Midas Touch Legal AF Hot Take. I'm Michael Popak. Let's get into it. I'm using my Florida legal experience, 35 years practicing down here in Florida.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Let's talk about what just happened. As we said on Legal AF, the podcast, one of the dumbest strategic moves I've ever seen Donald Trump make was to file this particular lawsuit and take on this particular media empire in an effort to try to distract and change the narrative of his cover-up of the pedophile predatory conduct of his wingman and one of his best friends Jeffrey Epstein. If he thought that was going to work because the Wall Street Journal ran an article on the front page about Donald Trump hand making a birthday card
Starting point is 00:03:06 that was glued into a scrapbook back in 2003 and included in a 50th birthday party Epstein birthday party gift. He thought that by filing the lawsuit, claiming that it wasn't his birthday card, this was gonna change the narrative, forget it. The headline is that Murdoch finally is severing his ties with Donald Trump and gave permission for that expose
Starting point is 00:03:32 to be published on the front page of the Wall Street Journal, which also gave license one after another, seriatim for the other corporate media outlets like the New York Times to start publishing their own pieces. New York Times is doing a hit a day against Donald Trump once Wall Street Journal broke the glass ceiling and gave permission. Permission structures operate in every location including in the media. And once they did that, New
Starting point is 00:03:58 York Times said we're gonna run our stories about all the people and all the data points that connect Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein and make it almost impossible to believe that he did not know that Jeffrey Epstein, his wingman and best friend, was also preying on and raping girls. And so we have article after article after article all since Donald Trump filed that lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Now I also said using my experience, my superpower experience of being a trial lawyer and being a trial lawyer who's practiced for years down in this Southern District of Florida, that I found it odd that Donald Trump did not file this case up in a more friendlier venue, a more friendlier division of the Southern District of Florida,
Starting point is 00:04:41 which would have been the West Palm Beach Division, which where he would have had a 50-50 shot of bullying Aileen Cannon. Why didn't he do that? You've heard me, and if not, I'll tell you straight. I think it's because he did not want Cannon for this case in case he has to elevate her to attorney general or worse, to the United States Supreme Court. So they filed in Miami, 70 miles south of Mar-a-Lago, not near where he lives. He has a lawyer that he likes a lot, Alejandro Brito, who lives in, who works in Coral Gables, Florida in Miami.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And he filed this case, he filed the case against Cohen, he filed the case against ABC, and filed the case against Paramount CBS. So he's his go-to for this kind of defamation type lawsuit. And the last time we got this gang together of Trump, Alejandro Brito, his lawyer, and a judge named Judge Gales, things that not go well for Donald Trump. So they filed in Miami. There's 18 or 20 judges that he could have pulled. He pulled randomly, randomly, Judge Darren Gales.
Starting point is 00:05:49 That's eight. And he's actually joked about it with Ben Micellis on our Legal AF podcast on Saturday. He could get Gales. It's one in 17 chance, one in 16 chance, but he could get him and he got him. What does it mean? Let me tell you first about my personal information
Starting point is 00:06:04 that I have from knowing Judge Gales. From years that he was on the Miami-Dade Circuit Court, my firm, full disclosure, supported his candidacy, helped him when he had a challenger a couple of times in terms of raising money for him, held a fundraiser for him. I spent a considerable amount of time with Judge Gales. And I like him a lot. He is, I don't know if he's the first openly gay judge
Starting point is 00:06:29 on the Southern District of Florida bench, but he's openly gay. I think he might be the first African-American, appointed by Obama, supremely qualified, super smart. And he doesn't take the bait. He's got a perfect judicial temperament He's quiet thoughtful, but don't f with him or any federal judge for that matter in the Southern District of Florida and in the
Starting point is 00:06:56 Using the Trump Cohen case as the blueprint. I think it's gonna go very similarly as soon as the lawyers from Michael Cohen As soon as the lawyers from Michael Cohen, who include full disclosure, a firm that I'm affiliated with, the Donya Perry firm, as soon as they started setting the depositions early for Donald Trump in the case, that case eventually got dismissed by Donald Trump voluntarily.
Starting point is 00:07:21 They called his bluff and they set his deposition because that's what Donald Trump has exposed himself to. And you know, it's not a one way street in a lawsuit, especially when you're the plaintiff. You carry the burden of proving your case. You carry the burden of trying to get your complaint to survive, a motion to dismiss, which is obviously coming from the Wall Street Journal
Starting point is 00:07:42 because what they published about the handmade birthday card pasted into a scrapbook and they saw the scrapbook. They saw the, they talked apparently based on the reporting to the FBI and the Department of Justice officials that were involved with gaining this information, gaining this evidence, who used it or were going to use it in some way to prosecute Epstein and or Jelaine Maxwell
Starting point is 00:08:04 who got prosecuted for being a co-conspirator who used it or were going to use it in some way to prosecute Epstein and or Jelaine Maxwell, who got prosecuted for being a co-conspirator in sex trafficking of girls and sentenced to 20 years. Now she's begging for a pardon from Donald Trump, hoping that he wants to make the whole crisis and the whole conspiracy go away. So they published the article about this X-rated handmade card with a doodle of a woman, a naked woman, where the pubic hair is the jagged Sharpie signature of Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And he said, Oh, it's on my card. I don't know why that is the issue. Why that is his issue, why that is his problem to file the lawsuit. I mean, there are thousands and thousands and thousands of pages and hours and videos and photos and evidence and testimony and interviews that link Donald Trump directly to Epstein, including Donald Trump's own interviews in magazines. You know, that feeling after your morning coffee, that crash, the jitters, the bloating?
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Starting point is 00:10:35 and Epstein's depraved activity, including now Ivanka. Yeah? And all of these people that were ignored or the pieces were not put together by anybody but Julie K. Brown of the Miami Herald who brought down Epstein with her dogged reporting Nobody else is covered it the way that we did so the birthday card is the thing that sets Donald Trump off to go after Rupert Murdoch and Rupert Murdoch and the Murdoch family don't respond to anybody.
Starting point is 00:11:06 They're not owned by outside investors, right? I mean, there are outside investors, but they control, they have the controlling stock in the company, they make all the decisions. So what's going to happen? Judge Gales, now that there's a complaint, there needs to be a response to the complaint filed within probably around 30 days. I'm sure it's going to be a motion to the complaint filed within probably around 30 days.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I'm sure it's gonna be a motion to dismiss arguing that this is not defamatory on behalf of the Dow Jones company that owns the Wall Street Journal owned by the Murdoch family. It's not defamatory, it's true. Donald Trump can't allege actual malice which is a requirement for a public figure in defamation
Starting point is 00:11:43 which means knowledge of truth or falsity about this card or reckless disregard for whether it's true or false. And then there's other privileges that may not be appropriate for motions to dismiss, but will be raised in short order in the case. And Gales will hold, or his magistrate judge, Judge Goodman, who has been assigned to the case, will hold a preliminary, usually the magistrate judge holds a preliminary hearing about discovery, depositions,
Starting point is 00:12:17 when are people gonna be sitting down in a room with a court reporter? When are people gonna be under oath? When are documents gonna be exchanged? When are people gonna be under oath? When are documents gonna be exchanged? When is information gonna be required to be provided by way of written answers to questions? We call interrogatories. Usually the magistrate judge
Starting point is 00:12:35 who sits under the federal judge, reports the federal judge, handles that kind of mundane day-to-day experience. In my experience in federal court, sometimes I don't talk to or get to see or have communication with the actual federal judge assigned to a case for a year or two, while the magistrate judge handles everything.
Starting point is 00:12:54 If I don't like what the magistrate judge does, I can appeal it to the trial court judge, this case, Judge Gales. Gales may take a more active role here. He doesn't have to use his magistrate. The first conference may well be Gales may take a more active role here. He doesn't have to use his magistrate. The first conference may well be Gales, the lawyers for Rupert Murdoch who have yet to appear, and Donald Trump's lawyer Alexander Brito
Starting point is 00:13:14 to talk about the case and to hear some preliminary comments and observations by Judge Gales. But Brito knows Gales well, the lawyer for Donald Trump, because he already lost in front of him, if you will, in the Cohen case. As soon as they called his bluff after he sued Michael Cohen for hundreds of millions of dollars and set him for deposition,
Starting point is 00:13:34 Donald Trump dismissed the case. We'll have to see what's going to happen here, but certainly Donald Trump has waived his immunity issues. He can't, if they counter sue him, which they're allowed to do, once he's been sued, Donald Trump can't use immunity as a sword and a shield. He can't say, oh I can sue you, but you can't sue me. Doesn't work that way. He's effectively waived his immunity defenses or any argument of presidential immunity or this immunity or that immunity. When they start asking him, well
Starting point is 00:14:03 who did you talk to about this card? Oh, I can't tell you, executive privilege. That's not gonna work. We're gonna have to work our way and grind our way through that with Judge Gales. But Judge Gales is super smart. He's seen this kind of case before. I can't think of a better judge to be assigned
Starting point is 00:14:18 than Judge Gales randomly to this case. It matters. For those, I think for those who have been students of Midas Touch and Legal AF for the last five years, you know that the judges matter. They're all supposed to be independent, nonpartisan arbiters of the law and applying the facts to the law
Starting point is 00:14:39 and just being, you know, independent umpires. But we know that where they come from and who appointed them and their backgrounds influence their jurisprudential approach. Now Donald Trump already has his ready foil, right? He's got a black judge, a black gay judge appointed by Obama, we can write the social media posts now can't we we? And ignore them. Left as Marxist, this as that'sist. Although he didn't do a heavy amount of attacking against them during the Cohen days.
Starting point is 00:15:12 But we'll have to see what happens here. I'm gonna get Michael Cohen to join me on Legal AF to talk about his experience in front of Judge Gales. And that'll better inform my reporting here on Legal AF and the Midas Touch Network. So look for that interview on Legal AF, the YouTube channel. Thanks for being here on the Midas Touch Network. As you can see, now more than ever,
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