Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Panicked Trump’s Lawsuit Over Epstein Secrets Instantly Backfires
Episode Date: July 21, 2025More bad news for Trump and his ill-advised Miami Federal defamation lawsuit against Rupert Murdoch and the Wall Street Journal for billions of dollars—the presiding judge has been assigned and it ...is Judge Daryn Gayles, the same judge that handled Trump’s losing case against Michael Cohen. Michael Popok who knows Judge Gayles well, explains Gayles’ court room process that could end in Trump dismissing the case before it goes much further. Everyday Dose: Go to https://EverydayDose.com/LEGALAF for 45% OFF your first order! Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Trump's going to regret having filed that lawsuit against the Wall Street Journal,
opening the Pandora's box wide open, subjecting himself to discovery and depositions,
warned statements under oath where he always does terrible. And now we've got the newest
information. Basically, something that I said was going to happen during Legal AF podcast on Saturday has happened. The judge assigned to the case of Trump versus Murdoch
in the Wall Street Journal, Trump versus sanity is Judge Darren Gales. I know Judge Gales
very well from when he was on the Florida Miami Dade Circuit Court. It's a phenomenal
judge. And you may recall that he was the judge
that presided over the case that Donald Trump filed
against Michael Cohen for defamation and breach of contract.
Same lawyer for Donald Trump, Alejandro Brito.
Same judge, Judge Gales.
I'm going to tell you why this matters
on this Midas Touch Legal AF Hot Take.
I'm Michael Popak.
Let's get into it.
I'm using my Florida legal experience, 35 years
practicing down here in Florida.
Let's talk about what just happened.
As we said on Legal AF, the podcast,
one of the dumbest strategic moves I've ever seen
Donald Trump make was to file this particular lawsuit
and take on this particular media empire
in an effort to try to distract and change the narrative of his cover-up of the pedophile predatory conduct of his wingman
and one of his best friends Jeffrey Epstein. If he thought that was going to work because the
Wall Street Journal ran an article on the front page about Donald Trump hand making a birthday card
that was glued into a scrapbook back in 2003
and included in a 50th birthday party Epstein
birthday party gift.
He thought that by filing the lawsuit,
claiming that it wasn't his birthday card,
this was gonna change the narrative, forget it.
The headline is that Murdoch finally is severing his ties
with Donald Trump and gave permission for that expose
to be published on the front page of the Wall Street Journal,
which also gave license one after another,
seriatim for the other corporate media outlets
like the New York Times to start publishing
their own pieces.
New York Times is doing a hit a day against Donald Trump once Wall Street
Journal broke the glass ceiling and gave permission. Permission structures
operate in every location including in the media. And once they did that, New
York Times said we're gonna run our stories about all the people and all the
data points that connect Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein
and make it almost impossible to believe
that he did not know that Jeffrey Epstein,
his wingman and best friend,
was also preying on and raping girls.
And so we have article after article after article
all since Donald Trump filed that lawsuit.
Now I also said using my experience,
my superpower experience of being a trial lawyer
and being a trial lawyer who's practiced for years down
in this Southern District of Florida,
that I found it odd that Donald Trump did not file this case
up in a more friendlier venue,
a more friendlier division
of the Southern District of Florida,
which would have been the West Palm Beach Division,
which where he would have had a 50-50 shot of bullying Aileen Cannon. Why didn't he do
that? You've heard me, and if not, I'll tell you straight. I think it's because he did not want
Cannon for this case in case he has to elevate her to attorney general or worse, to the United
States Supreme Court. So they filed in Miami, 70 miles south of Mar-a-Lago,
not near where he lives.
He has a lawyer that he likes a lot, Alejandro Brito,
who lives in, who works in Coral Gables, Florida in Miami.
And he filed this case, he filed the case against Cohen,
he filed the case against ABC,
and filed the case against Paramount CBS.
So he's his go-to for this kind of defamation type lawsuit.
And the last time we got this gang together of Trump, Alejandro Brito, his lawyer, and
a judge named Judge Gales, things that not go well for Donald Trump.
So they filed in Miami.
There's 18 or 20 judges that he could have pulled. He pulled randomly, randomly, Judge Darren Gales.
That's eight.
And he's actually joked about it with Ben Micellis
on our Legal AF podcast on Saturday.
He could get Gales.
It's one in 17 chance, one in 16 chance,
but he could get him and he got him.
What does it mean?
Let me tell you first about my personal information
that I have from knowing Judge Gales.
From years that he was on the Miami-Dade Circuit Court,
my firm, full disclosure, supported his candidacy,
helped him when he had a challenger a couple of times
in terms of raising money for him,
held a fundraiser for him.
I spent a considerable amount of time with Judge Gales.
And I like him a lot. He is, I don't know if he's the first openly gay judge
on the Southern District of Florida bench,
but he's openly gay.
I think he might be the first African-American,
appointed by Obama, supremely qualified, super smart.
And he doesn't take the bait.
He's got a perfect judicial temperament
He's quiet
thoughtful, but don't f with him or any federal judge for that matter in the Southern District of Florida and in the
Using the Trump Cohen case as the blueprint. I think it's gonna go very similarly as
soon as the lawyers from Michael Cohen
As soon as the lawyers from Michael Cohen, who include full disclosure,
a firm that I'm affiliated with, the Donya Perry firm,
as soon as they started setting the depositions early
for Donald Trump in the case,
that case eventually got dismissed
by Donald Trump voluntarily.
They called his bluff and they set his deposition
because that's what Donald Trump has exposed himself to.
And you know, it's not a one way street in a lawsuit,
especially when you're the plaintiff.
You carry the burden of proving your case.
You carry the burden of trying to get your complaint
to survive, a motion to dismiss,
which is obviously coming from the Wall Street Journal
because what they published
about the handmade birthday card
pasted into a scrapbook and they saw the scrapbook.
They saw the, they talked apparently based on the reporting
to the FBI and the Department of Justice officials
that were involved with gaining this information,
gaining this evidence, who used it or were going to use it
in some way to prosecute Epstein and or Jelaine Maxwell
who got prosecuted for being a co-conspirator who used it or were going to use it in some way to prosecute Epstein and or Jelaine Maxwell,
who got prosecuted for being a co-conspirator
in sex trafficking of girls and sentenced to 20 years.
Now she's begging for a pardon from Donald Trump,
hoping that he wants to make the whole crisis
and the whole conspiracy go away.
So they published the article about this X-rated handmade card with a doodle
of a woman, a naked woman, where the pubic hair is the jagged Sharpie signature of Donald Trump.
And he said, Oh, it's on my card. I don't know why that is the issue. Why that is his
issue, why that is his problem to file the lawsuit.
I mean, there are thousands and thousands and thousands of pages and hours and videos and photos and evidence
and testimony and interviews that link Donald Trump
directly to Epstein, including Donald Trump's own interviews
in magazines.
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i mean might as touch is running almost on an hourly basis
in social media and on its website
and on its YouTube channel information about people
who connect the dots between Donald Trump and Epstein
and Epstein's depraved activity, including now Ivanka.
Yeah? And all of these people that were ignored
or the pieces were not put together by anybody
but Julie K. Brown of the Miami
Herald who brought down Epstein with her dogged reporting
Nobody else is covered it the way that we did
so the birthday card is the thing that sets Donald Trump off to go after Rupert Murdoch and
Rupert Murdoch and the Murdoch family don't respond to anybody.
They're not owned by outside investors, right?
I mean, there are outside investors, but they control,
they have the controlling stock in the company,
they make all the decisions.
So what's going to happen?
Judge Gales, now that there's a complaint,
there needs to be a response to the complaint
filed within probably around 30 days. I'm sure it's going to be a motion to the complaint filed within probably around 30 days.
I'm sure it's gonna be a motion to dismiss
arguing that this is not defamatory
on behalf of the Dow Jones company
that owns the Wall Street Journal
owned by the Murdoch family.
It's not defamatory, it's true.
Donald Trump can't allege actual malice
which is a requirement for a public figure in defamation
which means knowledge of truth or falsity about this card or reckless disregard for
whether it's true or false. And then there's other privileges that may not
be appropriate for motions to dismiss, but will be raised in short order
in the case. And Gales will hold, or his magistrate judge, Judge Goodman,
who has been assigned to the case,
will hold a preliminary,
usually the magistrate judge holds a preliminary hearing
about discovery, depositions,
when are people gonna be sitting down in a room
with a court reporter?
When are people gonna be under oath?
When are documents gonna be exchanged? When are people gonna be under oath? When are documents gonna be exchanged?
When is information gonna be required to be provided
by way of written answers to questions?
We call interrogatories.
Usually the magistrate judge
who sits under the federal judge,
reports the federal judge,
handles that kind of mundane day-to-day experience.
In my experience in federal court,
sometimes I don't talk to or get to see
or have communication with the actual federal judge
assigned to a case for a year or two,
while the magistrate judge handles everything.
If I don't like what the magistrate judge does,
I can appeal it to the trial court judge,
this case, Judge Gales.
Gales may take a more active role here.
He doesn't have to use his magistrate. The first conference may well be Gales may take a more active role here. He doesn't have to use his magistrate.
The first conference may well be Gales,
the lawyers for Rupert Murdoch who have yet to appear,
and Donald Trump's lawyer Alexander Brito
to talk about the case and to hear some preliminary comments
and observations by Judge Gales.
But Brito knows Gales well, the lawyer for Donald Trump,
because he already lost in front of him, if you will,
in the Cohen case.
As soon as they called his bluff
after he sued Michael Cohen for hundreds of millions
of dollars and set him for deposition,
Donald Trump dismissed the case.
We'll have to see what's going to happen here,
but certainly Donald Trump has waived his immunity issues.
He can't, if they counter sue him, which they're
allowed to do, once he's been sued, Donald Trump can't use immunity as a sword and a
shield. He can't say, oh I can sue you, but you can't sue me. Doesn't work that
way. He's effectively waived his immunity defenses or any argument of presidential
immunity or this immunity or that immunity. When they start asking him, well
who did you talk to about this card?
Oh, I can't tell you, executive privilege.
That's not gonna work.
We're gonna have to work our way
and grind our way through that with Judge Gales.
But Judge Gales is super smart.
He's seen this kind of case before.
I can't think of a better judge to be assigned
than Judge Gales randomly to this case.
It matters.
For those, I think for those who have been students
of Midas Touch and Legal AF for the last five years,
you know that the judges matter.
They're all supposed to be independent,
nonpartisan arbiters of the law
and applying the facts to the law
and just being, you know, independent umpires.
But we know that where they come from and who appointed them and their backgrounds
influence their jurisprudential approach. Now Donald Trump
already has his ready foil, right? He's got a black judge, a
black gay judge appointed by Obama, we can write the social
media posts now can't we we? And ignore them.
Left as Marxist, this as that'sist. Although he didn't do a heavy amount of attacking
against them during the Cohen days.
But we'll have to see what happens here.
I'm gonna get Michael Cohen to join me on Legal AF
to talk about his experience in front of Judge Gales.
And that'll better inform my reporting here
on Legal AF and the Midas Touch Network.
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