Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Popok GIVES Legal Update on BREAKING NEWS
Episode Date: February 5, 2025Legal AF's Popok provides an urgent live briefing to our audience on late-breaking events 2 weeks into the chaotic Trump Administration and answers questions too! Tonight, Popok discusses: a new Temp...orary restraining order entered by a third federal judge against Trump and his rogue executive orders; the war that has broken out between Trump’s DOJ and FBI leadership and a new lawsuit to stop the illegal political purge; Trump giving Musk the keys to turn off social security, medicare, food stamps and disability payments, and a new suit on the horizon to stop it; Trump losing the 24 hour trade war with Canada, Mexico and China; and so much more. Support Our Sponsors: Miracle Made: Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to https://TryMiracle.com/LEGALAF and use the code LEGALAF to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF. Liquid IV: Get 20% off when you go to https://Liquid-IV.com and use code LEGALAF at checkout! Tushy: Over 2 million butts love TUSHY. Get 10% off Tushy with the code LEGALAF at https://hellotushy.com/LEGALAF! #tushypod 3 Day Blinds: For their buy 1 get 1 50% off deal, head to https://3DayBlinds.com/LEGALAF Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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You're on Popak Live, only on the Midas Touch Network. You know, when I was putting the show together today,
I had a lot of things to talk about.
I didn't know, first of all, was I
going to talk about the downed airplane and helicopter
and Donald Trump's response to it?
Was I just going to talk in general about the chaos that
is just encircling this particular administration?
We're two weeks in and there are already by my
count and the count of Norm Eisen 31 lawsuits in federal courts, most of them
in the District of Columbia but not only the District of Columbia, against Donald
Trump and his administration. Now I have a prediction, it's the Pope Pac
Quotient. I said that there was gonna be 4,000 lawsuits
filed against the Trump administration in his four years.
That average is about three and change per day.
We're at over two filings a day already
in his first couple of weeks and more to come.
And I know there was a lot of worry among my law colleagues in public sector and
public interest groups about whether we, and I mean the collective we here, not the cash
Patel we is not I we, I said that there we talked about well, are we going to be as successful
in the courts as we were in the first Trump administration when more than 1000 lawsuits
were filed. And in that the batting average when more than 1,000 lawsuits were filed.
And in that, the batting average for the attorneys general,
the public interest groups, including ones that didn't,
I mean, so there's some today
that didn't even exist back then,
we'll talk about them next,
but with that group of interested parties,
public interest parties, not-for-profits,
attorneys general, what was their batting average then?
It was over 800.
It was 80% success rate, which is extraordinary. And we thought, well, is it going to be the same
today? We've got Trump or federal judges, we've got a Supreme Court that's leaning over to the right.
Are we going to be just as successful now? No, no, we're going to be more successful because Donald Trump has to operate his government through
executive orders and
executive orders are for us a gift because it means that when he colors outside the lines and
violates the Constitution the separation of powers the Administrative Procedures Act and all the rest and the First Amendment or
Administrative Procedures Act and all the rest and the First Amendment or all four or five of those things at the same time because he just
can't get his executive orders right because he has no intention to comply
with the law or stay in his lane as the executive branch. He wants to be the
legislative branch. He wants to be the judicial branch. He wants to be all the
branches. So that's a gift to us. When you govern by fiat, by way of executive order,
that means we're going to be in federal courts two to three
times a day from now until the end of the Trump
administration.
And so I now have renewed enthusiasm, renewed energy
about our abilities to nail Donald Trump, nail him to the ground, and to stop him and his most obscenely, inhumane,
unconstitutional of executive orders. You notice how quiet the MAGA Congress is because they can't legislate their way out of a wet paperback.
They don't have the numbers, literally.
They don't have the majority they need in the House
to originate bills.
Listen to how, let's just listen for a second,
look to how quiet MAGA Congress is.
Yeah, they propose a bill here or there
to act like they're relevant.
Donald Trump doesn't even think they're relevant.
Donald Trump and the chaos that has engulfed
his entire administration in the first two weeks, for which he is not
prepared, as you can tell, from the flip-flopping on,
let's freeze all of the funding to states and not-for-profits
and cut off the flow of money to people who are downtrodden
and impoverished and disadvantaged
and disenfranchised.
Let's do that.
Oh, wait.
Let's not do that. Let's do that. Oh wait, let's not do that.
Let's flip on that.
Let's have tariffs that are non-negotiable
until they are negotiable 24 hours later
and China, Canada, and Mexico eat our lunch in front of us.
So this swirling chaos around Donald Trump
is a reflection of his cesspool, right? His stew, his weird stew in his
brain, that's one. The people that he has surrounded himself with who are enablers but not leaders
being led astray by people like Elon Musk. How many lawsuits am I gonna talk about tonight that
come down to Elon Musk's corrupt attempt to abuse power and steal our data and our privacy rights. I'm
going to talk about many of them along the way. So Donald Trump already has terrible judgment, terrible instincts. And now he
surrounded himself with people who, if this is possible, are even worse, are even worse. I thought his big bumper sticker campaign slogan
was I was president once and I can be president again.
I was 45 and I'm 47 now.
Okay, great.
Watching this guy objectively,
and I try to do that here on PopePok Live,
despite what people may think.
Objectively watching the first 14 days
of this administration, right, we're literally
two weeks in, you'd never think this guy ever served in the White House ever before, right?
This is all trial and error, you know? And, but why? But why? Why? Because he's so loaded down
with the Heritage Society, Project 2025, Federalist Society agenda,
coupled with his own ethical conflicts, financial ethical conflicts,
and those of his cabinet members,
that they can't not only think straight,
they can't execute executive orders or law straight.
You know, they are wrapped around their own axle
because they're so conflicted as people, as leaders,
ethically, financially and the rest.
And that leads to bad policy.
And that leads to the Trump administration
undermining our national security, our economic security.
Like who in their right mind?
This is not a tabletop thought experiment in the MBA class.
Let's do this.
Let's pull the US out of the US economy, not understanding apparently
the contribution that the United States and its $5 trillion of funding.
Whether it's for entitlement programs like Social Security, Medicare,
Medicaid, disability, and the rest,
or whether it's funding to states to pay for programs,
like Meals on Wheels, or for seniors, or for children,
or for the impoverished, or for arts groups,
or fill in the blank, every group.
Every one of them are people receiving a paycheck
that contributes to our economy as well.
So when you pull two or $3 trillion out of the economy
and hope that the private sector steps in,
that's not how an economy works.
At the same time, as long as we're doing
a tabletop exercise, which unfortunately we're not,
we're actually doing live policy
that impacts American lives, let's also start a trade war
with three countries that are responsible for 40% of our imports.
Canada, Mexico, for which we share a border, and China.
Let's do that.
And let's tariff our way to a better economy, citing
William McKinley, the 25th president,
who figured out early on that that doesn't work.
Now Donald Trump's theory is I'll use tariffs to replace income tax.
How's that?
No, it's not going to work.
You've got a $5 trillion a year, five with a, sorry not five with a T,
trillion with a T, trillion dollar amount of money that the national government
has to dole out, has to take in from somewhere. That's from internal revenue
service collection. Donald Trump says we need an external revenue service. We need
to use tariff. You could never tariff enough to collect five trillion dollars.
Do the math, man. But this is what happens when you have a failed family office real estate
developer who went bankrupt a half a dozen times, who found a way to lose money running an American
casino, running the national government as if it's one of his failed businesses. But the government, as most presidents have found out,
all of them, no matter where they came from,
military, business, career, public service,
these business people, they find out very easily,
this is not a business.
We're not the United States of America Inc.
despite Elon Musk trying to patent and trademark that name.
We're a government by the people and for the people
that has things like social safety net and social programs
that people rely on and that you can't cut off.
And then on top of that, besides the trade war,
let's take American diplomacy and throw it into the trash
by getting rid of US aid.
And the reason that US aid,
which helps not only with poverty alleviation
around the world,
that helps with famine alleviation around the world.
It also promotes US economic interest around the world.
That's why US aid is a part of the State Department. It also promotes U.S. economic interest around the world. That's why U.S. aid is a part
of the State Department. It is diplomacy. But for Donald Trump and those around him,
diplomacy is a four-letter word. It's a liberal DEI thing that he has to get rid of. He has to
destroy. Like every hammer, everyone's a nail.
So Donald Trump sees DEI everywhere.
We have to get rid of the corrupt liberal giving out condoms to Africa.
That's not what USAID does primarily.
And Marco Rubio, of course, is an empty suit.
We knew that when he ran for president.
He's all hat, no cattle, as some of my friends in Texas say.
He goes along with it.
Oh, that's okay.
We'll just get rid of US aid.
So now the thing that Donald Trump never remembers is that behind every foreign aid
package and foreign grant is an American job, is an American company supplying those
hundreds of billions of dollars to Africa, India, the Sudan Sudan and the rest. Where does he think it comes from? It
comes from America and American companies that are distributing or
manufacturing, right? And when you fight with Canada, you have to ignore the fact
apparently that in the in the exchange of goods and services, that we're ahead on services.
I mean, we were until Ontario's premier, Doug Ford said,
I'm not doing business with Elon Musk.
Let me rip up that contract for Starlink, you know?
And goods includes utilities, power, oil, coal,
and things that help natural resources, rare metals,
things that help our resources, rare metals, things that help our manufacturing, manufacture.
That's the last place you want to pick a fight with. So I had all that. That's a backdrop.
And then I started looking at the counter of how many cases would be filed. And we are
up, and I'm probably missing a couple, to 31 cases that have already been
filed in the first two weeks against the Trump administration.
I'm going to cover many of the cases, including some recent ones and some new orders as we
were going on the air, all against Donald Trump's administration.
All of them.
There's now four temporary restraining orders against Donald Trump's administration.
Four. By four different federal judges.
And we can also just have, I want to do a little tutorial here, a little legal AF law school breakout session on BOPOC Live.
A little guidebook for you to understand the intersection of law and politics as I'm going to talk about it here for Donald Trump because there's some common
denominators I don't want you to lose sight of and I can give it to you from
my perspective as a 35-year trial lawyer. Firstly, the majority of the cases that
are being filed and where successful TROs, temporary restraining orders, are
being obtained is in the District of Columbia, federal, federal district judges.
Where have we spent a lot of time talking about DC federal judges? Oh right, they were the ones that
handled the 1600 Jan 6 cases and none of them were very pleased when Donald Trump pardoned those criminals.
And so now we're going to see the revenge of the Jan 6
federal judges who now are ready to rule against the Trump
administration.
I mean, that is the federal judge group that is going to be involved with more of these lawsuits
that I'm going to talk about tonight and for the next four years and probably any other
collection of judges.
And they are ready to come back after Donald Trump.
Retaliation, no.
But these are not the judges that most of them who lean moderate to liberal that Donald Trump's going to want to be
up against it because the agencies and the departments of the Trump administration are
the ones who are more likely the defendants, DC is the place to sue them. Not the only place,
but it is the place to sue them. So that's, think about DC. But also as I've outlined,
we'll talk about tonight, think about all the other blue states and blue federal courts where these cases, these 31 cases have been filed. Let me, let me summarize it this way. I'll tell you where they haven't been filed. They haven't been filed in Texas, in Alabama, in Louisiana, in Mississippi, in Missouri. Okay, that's not where they're getting, Florida, that's
not where they're getting filed. Yeah, they're getting filed in New Hampshire.
See if you can figure out the common denominator here. New Hampshire,
Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, the District of Columbia, Washington State,
Oregon, California. See where I'm going with this? That's where these
cases are being filed because not only are we more likely to find like-minded federal judges there,
independent judicial, I'm not making any aspersions against them. They're independent. They're as
independent as the Texas judges that the Trump people always like to go to, the
Texas two-step to get them to the Supreme Court. We got our own, we got our own jig,
we got our own dance that we can do. And that's where all the 31 are filed, from
Maryland up to Rhode Island and California up to Washington
State. And that's where they're going to stay, and D.C. Yeah? Because the appellate
courts is the next stop. And those appellate courts are also liberal
moderate appellate courts. The ninth in the west side, west coast. The first, the
second, the third running down the coast, the first, the second, the third,
running down the coast, the East coast,
the DC Appellate Court, Court of Appeals.
That's where we're gonna live or die.
And so far, Donald Trump is dying.
I told you at the top of this PO-PAC Live
that the success rate in the first term
for public interest groups and attorneys general
and the like against the Trump administration
in a thousand cases
Was about 80%
Right now it's it's a thousand. They're batting a thousand in the TROs and
The future injunctions and on the other cases because they're in the right and on the side of the angels and Donald Trump is wrong
The other common denominator besides that. Oh, let me just complete the thought
Because I know a lot of people in the chat are saying, yeah, but the Supremes.
Yeah, yeah, the Supremes. And the Supremes on criminal and presidential power and
immunity and insurrection ballot issues, terrible, terrible. But not all these cases
are going to end up with the United States Supreme Court. Because not all cases end up with the United States Supreme Court. There are
tens of thousands of cases that are filed every year in state and federal court.
Sixty, six zero end up at the United States Supreme Court. When I graduated law
school in whatever it was, it was about a hundred. But this last ten years,
last five years under Roberts, it shrunk.
They get 60 cases, which means the other 9,000 cases stay at the trial court or the appellate
court level right below the Supreme Court.
That's where justice is done on a daily basis.
They can't take all the cases.
They're not going to take all the cases.
And that's why we're flooding, I'm going to talk
to you about the 31, it's multiple lawsuits on the same issue by different affected parties
in different courts on purpose, not because of total lack of coordination, although I don't
think they're all coordinating, but they all know they're going to file on the same day.
You know, when when whenright Citizenship was successfully attacked,
there was a small group of attorneys general that went to Seattle,
and there was another group, you know, including the ACLU and all,
that went to New Hampshire and filed on the same day.
Now, they coordinated. They coordinated.
Same thing on the federal funding freeze
or the impoundment cases.
There is a group of attorneys general
that went in one jurisdiction.
There's a group of affected parties
that are not-for-profits that went to another jurisdiction.
And that's another reason,
because you wanna try to add a portfolio method.
You wanna try to balance this just in case you get a crappy judge let's just call it out for
what it is you get a crappy ruling oh crap I filed that one case there and I
got that crappy ruling I filed five cases on the same point in federal court
and I got four good rulings at one bad ruling that's the portfolio method and
then you can kind of drop your crappy case and take your other cases up on
appeal get it that's what we're watching mastery and shout out to norm Isen has And then you can kind of drop your crappy case and take your other cases up on appeal. Get it?
That's what we're watching.
Mastery.
And shout out to Norm Eisen, who's been on the Midas Touch Network a number of times,
because he is behind a number of the lawsuits I'm going to talk about tonight.
He's not just just security or that guy that shows up on some of our podcasts for being
interviewed.
He's a practicing lawyer the way I am.
And he's out there with a new group
that he's formed just since, I think, since the election.
He's got a couple of them that weren't even
around in the first go around for Donald Trump.
Donald Trump's first go around, this leading edge,
the spear, the tip of the spear against him successfully
were groups like the ACLU, Southern Poverty, NAACP.
And believe me, they're ready.
They're ready to come back in.
But right now, I'll tell you who's leading the charge.
Norm Eisen, Mark Elias, and about 22 different attorneys
general around the country, including California,
Washington, and New York.
And that's who is the profile
in courage right now. And they are winning. In fact, I'm going to go over a number of
these cases just so you can keep track of them. The last thing I want to say before
I take a short break is that another common denominator to keep an eye on is the type
of causes of action, which are the claims within a lawsuit in federal court.
We call them claims or causes of action.
And you're going to see it's a broken record,
because Donald Trump's violations are basically
fallen to the same category.
And so we're going to see the following types of causes
of action or claims in all of these cases. One, a violation of the Administrative
Procedures Act, because the departments or the agencies are violating through arbitrary and capricious actions, the
Administrative Procedures Act. You can't just do whatever the heck you want. You can't just let, you know, like, Elon Musk
in to your data server or your email server and then have
him turn it over to third parties that work outside the government, and that's okay. It's not okay. Not under the law,
not under the privacy laws, not under the Internal Revenue Code, not under the Administrative Procedures Act. You're
going to hear a lot about the APA. So we're going to talk about that in a little more detail tonight. You're going to hear a lot about the First Amendment because when Donald Trump says woke, when Donald Trump says DEI,
he's on a mole hunt to get rid of DEI, to get rid of wokeness, that is an attack on somebody's
because of the expression of their public expression, their freedom of expression.
That is a First Amendment violation.
You can't get rid of an FBI agent
because you think he's a Democrat
or that person's perceived political views.
That is a First Amendment violation.
So you'll see APA, you'll see First Amendment
being used to not, even funding being cut off
because of a not-for-profits perceived wokeness,
whatever that means.
I don't know what's woke about feeding a child.
I don't know what's conservative about feeding a child.
It's just a humane thing to do in our society
of so much wealth is not to have impoverished, not to have illiteracy,
not to have health care issues for children or anybody. And so that's not a woke issue.
So when you cut off their funding, because you think it's funny that their employees
who are also poor or working poor, who miss a paycheck, who can't go shopping for food,
because you think it's hilarious, right?
And you're doing it because of their ideology,
that's a First Amendment violation.
And then you have the whole constitutional bulwark
as Judge Ali Khan said today
in her ruling against the Trump administration,
which is there are things that are the province of Congress,
not the executive branch,
like the purse strings, the checkbook for the nation, appropriations, if you will,
have to be originated and only originated in Congress, right?
In the legislative branch, not the executive branch. The executive branch executes on the laws faithfully
and complies with them, but not when you're Donald Trump.
So you have an appropriations clause violation.
You have a violation of separation of powers
because you're coloring outside the lines
and you're moving into the lane of Congress
through executive orders.
And I'll tell you who hates executive orders, Supreme Court.
They hate, they look for any excuse
to shoot down an executive order
or attempt to rule by executive order,
which is a good thing for us as well.
So look for, once again, let's do it together.
APA, Administrative Procedures Act,
First Amendment violation over and over again.
Third thing, separation of powers. Fourth, that I
say appropriations, appropriations by Congress. That you're going to see, that's
the toolbox in all of the lawsuits that we're going to be talking about tonight
and going forward. I'll add one other concept, two other concepts. You're gonna,
we're gonna talk a lot here and on Legal AF, the YouTube channel. Did I mention we have another YouTube channel in collaboration with the Midas Touch Network?
If I mentioned that we're getting so close to 500,000 subscribers free in just the first
four and a half months and that we need help over there, have I mentioned that?
I'm doing it now.
Thank you, Salty.
Bring it up on the screen.
All right.
We're at, we're at already, I did the math before, Salty.
We're at 65 million views of our content over there,
independent from but in collaboration with the Midas
Dutch Network.
But we need more.
You need more.
Because the bigger we are on legal AF,
the more your voice is heard.
And if I'm right, well, I am right
that there's 31 lawsuits already. But if I'm right that we're am right that there's 31 lawsuits already, but if
I'm right that we're gonna average three to four a day for the next four years,
where else would you want to go but Legal AF to get ten videos a day
breaking down these suits? I downloaded so many lawsuits today about Donald
Trump so I can do hot takes of the Mind and Stitch Network and on Legal AF that
my printer broke. That's just like not run out of paper. It just went, I were gassed. We need another printer here. I'm
going to ask the suits for it. So here's the last bit of analysis. Class actions, and I got a lot
of questions in my Blue Sky account on class actions for tonight. And John and Jane Doe lawsuits. What are they all about?
Class actions, everybody wants one, are brought on behalf of a similarly situated group that have
been injured, represented by a class representative. It is one way, but not the only way, to bring
redress for injustice. A single plaintiff can obtain a temporary
restraining order and block a federal statute without being with all the rest.
But it helps. Most of the cases I'm going to talk to you about are not class
action. Most of them are a group of people joined together, a long list maybe,
10, 12, 15, 20 states or 15 or 20 public interest groups or not for profits,
not class action. That's a different vehicle, has different requirements, different elements,
different demands that you have to satisfy in order to have a class action suit to then represent
a defined class. But there are a couple of class action suits that have been filed. I want to talk
about them tonight. And the second is when you have a Jane or John Doe
as a plaintiff, what does that mean?
That means you don't want the, you anonymize,
you want to have anonymous the plaintiffs for their personal
safety and security.
And we have a number of cases now that have been brought
against the Trump administration, no shock,
who don't want their names out there,
like FBI agents
and others that work inside the government
who are current government employees
who are suing to stop Donald Trump
and his worst instincts on these executive orders.
And they wanna do it in a nameless way.
They're allowed to do it, there's conditions for it.
I'm gonna talk about a number of Jane and John Doe cases,
but that's what we mean by that.
Now the court knows who they are. The lawyers on either side will ultimately, well on the other
side I mean, will ultimately know who they are, but not yet, not quite yet. So that's the whole
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We broke it on Saturday.
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I've had a successful and enjoyable law career for
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election, and with some personal changes in my own life with my family, as a lot of people know, we just welcomed our
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grow and build a legal AF YouTube channel. I think it's that important. I don't want to be able to
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democracy. And I think it's that important. And the second thing was, you know, was I going to continue to practice law? And I've decided to kind of, you know,
we have something going on here with Legal AF and I want to, as a natural extension of that,
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okay, that was interesting. Tip of the hat and chef's kiss to our audience.
We hit 17,000 in live chat just before the ad break and I am humbled and I appreciate
it.
I'm bringing my best though.
I'm bringing it all right here.
Let me go to some questions that came up and an interesting piece of fan art that came
up in my interesting piece of fan art that came up in my Blue Sky comments every
Tuesday before the show. I'm on Blue Sky. You see my handle there at MS Popok. And I'll
post a notice about the show. I have a new photo up. Some people noticed. I took that
photo and a photo shoot for this podcast, Popok Live, they were launching. Yeah, I might
use it for the law firm too,
because I like the photo.
But I posted a notice about what I'm going to talk about tonight.
I say leave some questions down in comments,
and I've covered a number of it now.
Everybody's asking about class actions,
about the data breach that is at the heart of Elon Musk's doge,
and getting the keys to our financial and Treasury and IRS and
Entitlements and disbursement information sounds like a bad thing right sounds like an illegal thing well it is and so yes
There's already a series of class actions at least two or three that I'm going to talk about so we have that
Somebody a number of people asked because they're understandably worried. What happens when court orders aren't
Followed who who's gonna enforce them which people like, you know is Trump's fill in the blank FBI
Marshals or this or that kind of enforce it. Let's start with I'm not worried about this issue
I'm not saying you're wrong to worry about it
I'm just telling you that I have more confidence in the ability of federal judges particularly
to use their inherent authority and the authority of federal statutes and law to
impose contempt, including criminal contempt, and to jail government officials.
Now some people say, well, because let me just tell you how this works. Judges, I'll
talk about three of them tonight, including Ali Khan that just issued an
order, Royce Lamper, who just issued an order,
Royce Lamperth, who just issued an order on injunction related
to transgender females being placed back with men in prison.
Sounds like a terrible, terrible violation
of bodily autonomy and rights, and it is.
And some people always say, what if Trump's Bureau of Prison doesn't do it? Well then if it's not complied with a federal
judge like Royce Lampert in DC, one of those judges who's looking to get back
at the Trump administration, I assure you, for what happened during Jan 6th is going
to call onto the carpet and demand the appearance of the head of the Bureau of
Prisons and or the Department of Justice, Pam Bondi or whatever
she gets confirmed, and have them say you've been ordered by a federal judge to fill in the blank.
You have not complied with that. I find you in contempt of court and under that I'm going to
find the government X amount a day and if you don't comply within the next 24 hours, then I'm going to put you in jail.
And then the federal marshals, I mean, could Donald Trump try to tell the federal marshals not to comply with a judge in the different branch of government?
No, because those marshals work for the federal, a different branch. They don't report to, it's not like the FBI. The FBI reports to the executive
branch. The federal marshals don't, nor are the bailiffs that work in the courtroom or the courthouse.
And there's a jail in every court, by the way. You don't have to go all the way to the bureau
of prisons. You can put them in the federal detention center and in different places. So
there's a lot of things that judges can do. As crazy, insane, rogue and depraved as Donald
Trump, then I mean batshit. I mean he should be, if the cabinet around him and
the vice president weren't meat puppets, they'd already be talking seriously
about the 25th Amendment to have him removed and incapacitated. But you need
to have a vice president that has, what's the word I'm looking for, brass ones?
Gravitas? You fell in the blank. Because he has to go along with the ride, he has to go along.
You have to have a majority of your cabinet, and while they're
not all lackeys of Donald Trump, there's not a majority that's gonna
support taking him out right now and putting JD Vance in, which I'm not sure
is better, to have a 39 year old who thinks like Donald Trump does. And then you have to have two thirds of Congress if he challenges it.
We don't have that.
So I like talking about the hypothetical, the magical of the 25th Amendment,
but he is circling the drain here.
This chaos that we're in the first two weeks does not bode well for him into the future.
But it does give us the ability to regularly go into two and
three times a day in the federal court and get orders against him.
Most of which will not be disturbed by appellate courts above nor
the Supreme Court.
And you just have to flood the zone with these cases.
To use sports metaphors, it's like if you like hockey,
it's like firing 1,000 pucks at the net.
A number of them are going to go in.
And that's why we see so many multiple,
multiply filed cases about the same particular issue.
So I'm not that, as an officer of the court myself,
I'm admitted to practice in two major jurisdictions
and then a number of federal courts.
I'm not worried about the ability
of a pissed off federal judge to get people
into detention centers or jail
if they are found in contempt.
So we have that.
Then some people said,
I mentioned that Norm Eisen is involved
with a number of the cases.
They're like, it looks like it's only Norm Eisen. Where are the attorneys general? No, no, the
attorneys general are there. They've already filed two major cases, one on
birthright citizenship and they've won it, and one on the federal impoundment or
federal freeze issue. So the 18 to 22 attorneys general are doing just fine
two weeks in and we're gonna be seeing and hearing more of them successfully
here on the show. And then I had something that made me laugh out loud, which was a very genuine
piece of fan art. I think that's what we call it. But a love note from our Canadian fan of ours
to us in America. And it was, it's a two-part thing. It says, Dear America, you'll be okay.
Love Canada. And then I think there's another photo with that.
That was a two-parter.
Anyway, I saw that in blue sky.
And I'm like, oh, I got to get it to salty.
We got to get it up on the screen.
We like fan art here.
I've gotten a number of things mailed to me.
I'm not asking for it.
I'm just saying I've got a number of things mailed
for me that I thought were adorable.
So I really do appreciate that.
So let me turn to what's not adorable, which
is Donald Trump's executive orders
and what's going on in federal courts.
But I hope in the first 42 minutes,
less the commercials of our show so far,
that you're coming away with a certain amount
of solace and comfort that the federal courts
and the ones we're picking know what they're doing.
And we're gonna tie up and tie down the Trump administration successfully over
the next four years.
And we're only getting better at it.
It's like AI, except it's I, it's just intelligence.
We're getting better at where to file, how to file, the claims to file,
the motion practice, and the rest.
Because we already had a dress rehearsal in the first Trump administration.
And so, which I was only around for legal AF anyway, for like the tail end, right? But now we're here together as a community in POPOC Live 2. Let's talk about the three major temporary restraining
orders already issued and the other cases of the 31 that I thought were very, very interesting.
Birthright citizenship, people are like, we haven't talked about that in a while. What's going on with that, Pope Pac?
Well, we've already got at least,
and it's not just the three that were originally filed
in New Hampshire, Seattle, and DC,
in which Judge Coffinore in Seattle
already issued the temporary restraining order.
We have birthright citizenship cases,
again, some version of the Trump administration,
from Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, to others in New
Jersey, Northern District of California, Maryland, Massachusetts, Washington, and
the rest. There are actually seven birthright citizenship cases, not just
the original three, in two weeks. You know, it's like it's like gremlins, man. Feed
them after dark, you know, and hit them with water. We're just multiplying these
lawsuits left and right. Yeah. So birthright citizenship, that's a win so far for the attorneys
general, for the public interest groups representing groups like Indonesians in
New Hampshire, and things like that, to try to defeat Donald Trump's using a pen,
taking a magic marker to the Constitution effectively. Let's just
write out the 14th Amendment, section one. Let's just write that out. And birthright citizenship. Yeah, no. Not
happening. I don't even think this United States Supreme Court is going to
ultimately side with him on birthright citizenship. That he can deny a mother
and a baby who come to a federal office and says, my child was, here's a birth
certificate, my child was born on US soil. I'm sorry, what is your status and the
status of the father? I don't care if he was born, if he or she was born here. You know, you're
not getting fill in the blank food stamps, welfare, Social Security, student
loans, any you know chip for children's health care. You're not getting any of
that. Why? Because Donald Trump told me I'm you're not getting any of that. We're
already seeing rebellion within the
Already breaking out like a firefight
in one of the cases I'm going to talk about tonight the
FBI and
And and current members of the FBI are suing the Department of Justice and Donald Trump
Over their efforts to purge the FBI of anybody that touched anything related to Jan six, which is illegal, obviously.
You've got the acting director of the FBI.
I did a whole hot take on this one who base who basically told the department of justice and, and, and, uh, Emil Bovay, who used to be
Donald Trump's lead criminal lawyer.
You know, we don't hear a lot about Todd Blanch.
What happened to Todd Blanch? Well anyway, Amiel Bové, as in acting whatever he's doing,
he's writing all sorts of letters demanding all sorts of information about FBI agents to fire them, while Cash Patel tells
the Senate, it lies to them and says, I have no
intent to use firings as political
retribution. Bullshit. It's going on right now. So the acting director of the FBI
used to work in the Newark, New Jersey, shout out to New Jersey, field office
told the Department of Justice and Emile Beauvais and people that showed up there
to F off, the legal AF off, that he was not going to turn over the list.
Now they turned over a list finally today, but it was a list by badge number and by position,
not giving the names, which because there's a new lawsuit filed by FBI agents anonymously,
Jane and John Doe or Agent Jane and John Doe against Emil Bovay and the Department of Justice, because again, FBI
sits under the Department of Justice,
to stop them from being fired.
First Amendment violation, 14th Amendment violation,
Administrative Procedures Act violation,
and their rights of privacy.
Because in one of the lawsuits, and there's not just
one lawsuit, there are two separate lawsuits filed back to my theme
at the top of the Boat Park Live tonight about flooding the zone,
multiple lawsuits, different courts in the same place, two
in the District of Columbia.
By the way, you could have multiple cases filed to the same
courthouse on the same floor.
I've been involved with cases, one judge, three doors down
handling one case exactly the same as my case, two different
orders come out. Sometimes they overlap, sometimes there's a
distinction that has to be resolved by the appellate court. So two
different cases filed. In one, they reproduced, I'll do a hot take on it for
legal layoff tomorrow, they reproduced social media posts by pardoned Jan 6th
insurrectionists who said we like Enrique
Tarrio who got sentenced for 22 years in prison not because he was a Boy Scout or
part of a choir but because he led the charge to try to brain and maim members
of law enforcement and try to assassinate legislators and their staff
but he got let out he was partying in Miami the day that Donald Trump swore in.
And now he's listening on his social media
because they're emboldened that,
and he has the names
because he knows who his FBI agents were,
that certain FBI agents by name should be prosecuted.
So that's who's running Donald Trump's government now,
the pardon leaders of Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers,
they are now setting our policy, right?
The jailers are now jailed,
the inmates are running the asylum,
fill in your comparison here.
And so we've got the Department of Justice
and the FBI duking it out, this is crazy,
in broad daylight over this attempt to enforce.
We've got Treasury Department officials
who refused originally, in a show of courage,
to refuse to let Elon Musk into our payment system
that controls $5 trillion worth of payments.
If you're out there, I'm not doing an ad for the PO-POC firm.
If you're out there and you get food stamps, student loans,
disability checks, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid,
or anything else like that, your check is in jeopardy and your
privacy information, your information about your privacy that you want to keep private is also in jeopardy and your privacy information about your privacy that you
want to keep private is also in jeopardy. Things that by law even the Internal
Revenue Service can't access unless there's a proper need for it. It's a
violation. Elon Musk just wandered in, wanted to get into the payment system
and the proprietary software and this official said, I don't think so I've been
doing this for 30 years successfully.
I've been getting out all $5 trillion worth of checks
every year that Congress allocates
and I'm not letting you have access to it.
That's my artist's rendering.
I don't think it quite went that way, but it might've.
There are members of Congress led by Ben Frost
who are trying to get into the Treasury Department
to find out what Doge is doing.
So this guy got fired.
He tried to be a firewall around our servers related
to our payment system.
So that's a profile in courage.
The FBI director tells Emil Bovet to f off.
So does the director of the New York field office for the FBI.
Same thing.
You've got the head of US AIDS, the chief of staff for US AIDS, who
was appointed by Donald Trump a week earlier, refused to fire 600 people and
put the US aid, which is our arm of the diplomacy that gives aid to the
impoverished, promotes economic interest around the world, that helps with US jobs.
He refused to mothball it and close it, and it got closed.
He said no, fired, dragged out.
Now Marco Rubio is in charge of an agency that doesn't exist,
cutting off funding immediately to all of those places.
You've got the inspector.
I did a hot take on this one.
The inspector general for the agricultural department
is also the first female chairperson
of the inspector's general council. They dragged her out almost, 22 years in the
job as an independent advocate. And then you've got
Elon Musk, who has the balls, the temerity to look the American people in the eye.
Actually, he doesn't look the American people in the eye,
because he's not confirmed by the Senate. He never... He shouldn't have any of the powers that he has, and that's all gonna be tested in this lawsuit. Actually, he doesn't look the American people in the eye because he's not confirmed by the Senate. He never, he never, he shouldn't have any
of the powers that he has and that's all going to be tested in this lawsuits. And
he says, well the reason we're doing all this is we're trying to get down to
liberal fraud and corruption. Liberal fraud and corruption in these agencies.
You know who ferrets out fraud and corruption and agencies and departments?
Inspectors General. You know who Donald Trump just agencies and departments? Inspectors general.
You know who Donald Trump just fired?
All the inspectors general.
So who's really interested in ferreting out fraud
and corruption?
Donald Trump and his administration?
Or is it just a populist BS messaging in order to cover up
for one of the most egregious abuses of power I've
ever seen and we're only two weeks into this administration.
I said it after November 5th.
We were going to watch Donald Trump and his administration lurch and careen from one abuse
of power and constitutional crisis to another on almost a daily basis. And
the good news about that, I know you're thinking, Popeye, what's the good news
about that? The silver lining is that that will derail him because he has limited
time and resources. I know it's an interminable period of time to wait for
the end of four years for him to be done. It's less than four years now. It's two
weeks short of four years. It'll be lame. It's less than four years now. It's two weeks short of four years.
It'll be lame duck if we do this right at midterms.
He's got a limited amount of time.
And the more his administration
and its Department of Justice is tied up
into all these crazy lawsuits every day,
three times a day, the less they can do other things.
It's already gonna be a do nothing Department of Justice
with a do nothing Civil Rights Division head. So you got all that going on as all of his
executive orders, most of them, are shot down along the way. So you got the
birthright citizenship cases we talked about, we got the FBI agents who have
brought their cases about their firing and all of that. Again, DC, class action, John and Jane Doe.
We talked about that.
First Amendment is at the core of that.
Then we've got the cases related to,
that have been brought by the AFL-CIO of all unions.
A group of unions have brought a case,
this is now case eight, if you're playing at home,
about Elon Musk's data violations and privacy violations
because he's been given access
to the Bureau of Fiscal Service,
which is the keeper of the $5 trillion U.S. checkbook.
Not only are they the payor, they collect the money because the Internal Revenue Service
is within the Bureau of Financial Service.
That service has been on the books in one form or another since 1937 with FDR.
It got combined into one entity by Tim Geithner, a Treasury Secretary during the 2008-2009 crisis.
I think it was created in 2012, but there's always been a version of it.
And that organization collects about $5 trillion, mainly through income tax and through other tariffs and things,
gets all the money in the bank.
And then as Congress allocates it and funds it and tells them who to pay,
they pay. That's all the entitlements. That's why three trillion of that is your entitlements,
Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, social security, all the things people didn't want to have jeopardized
when they voted for Donald Trump. And so his trying to steal that data and get access and give that access to other people you've never even heard of.
And I shouldn't even have to talk about that work for outside consulting firms to get this delicate, sensitive information.
That's the subject of this lawsuit by the federal workers, including parts of the AFL-CIO,
is now before, that's also in DC as well, right?
That's Privacy Act, that's Administrative Procedures Act
again, and the rest.
Then, moving on to case nine out of 31,
we've got two different,
actually this one's two federal workers.
See, I told you, it doesn't always have to be a class action. Just two federal workers, Jane Doe and John Doe,
who have sued Elon Musk and the government
because of data harvesting that he's doing
because he has access to the office
of personnel management server
and has been sending out emails from it.
So he's been sending it, he's got control somehow
of HR at OPM.gov, but that puts a tremendous amount
of personal data at risk.
So they've sued to disconnect him from the server
at the Office of Personnel Management.
That's again, seeking a temporary restraining order
that's been filed in the District of Columbia,
back to my thematic.
Then we've got a case involved that just came out,
I'm gonna do this one now,
just came out as we're going on the air.
Royce Lampert, who I think is senior status
and appointed by Reagan of all people,
maybe Bush,
federal judge of the District of Columbia,
who there's no love lost between him and the Trump administration, especially after the Jan 6th pardons.
He just enjoined by temporary restraining order as we were coming on the air,
Donald Trump's mean-spirited,
depraved, inhumane
executive order that forces men who are trans,
who transgender women who were once men,
I guess the way to put it, transgender women
who were once men, who were housed,
until Donald Trump tried to change it,
who were housed with women in the Bureau of Prisons.
Because you could just think what would happen to them
in the general population of a male prison.
I'll just leave it on that.
And so Donald Trump decided as part of anti-wokeness,
as part of the elimination of DEI,
while planes are dropping out of the sky on his watch,
his concern is to make sure that transgender women
who used to be
men, are housed with men. And he issued an executive order that exactly did that,
along with the ones about there's only two genders in America, get rid of
transgender affirming care for teenagers and all that stuff. It was all in
there. It was all in those executive orders. And Royce Lampert said, no,
effectively you're gonna get people killed and you're gonna get people's
Clampert said, no, effectively you're going to get people killed. And you're going to get people's rights, civil rights, violated because you're not
housing them in the right place, and you know or should know they're going to be
killed or worse in a general population of men.
And so he, stepping up, profile of courage, this is what federal judges get paid to do,
in the District of Columbia, has just entered
that temporary restraining order.
We got a whole other case that's in Maryland that's been brought about Donald Trump's
executive order to end gender affirming care for those 19 and under who have been cut off.
Can you imagine you and your family are in the middle of this so intimate and personal
decision to transition to another gender, right? Because that is who you believe
you are, and that is who you are. And you're in the middle of it. You're about
to get the next treatment, whatever that is, hormone treatment or on the
way to a surgery, or whatever it is is or puberty blocker and you're just and the doctors understandably because they don't
want to go to jail say you're done we got an executive order and we can't do
this any longer imagine think about the lives but
Donald Trump never thinks about your life I said this on a hot take recently
I'll leave it on this before we take our next quick break. Those in the Trump administration and Trump himself
are so removed from the daily lives of the average American
because of their billions and billions and billions
of dollars.
They haven't pumped gas ever.
They don't shop in supermarkets.
They don't have to make rent.
They don't have to call a utilities company
to get service put back on after a check bounced.
They don't have to, right? They don't have any of these real-world problems, and they haven't had them for years.
So why would we think that those people care about the rest of us or are going to do public policy and public service in our own interest?
I mean, somebody I used to work for, who's now in the cabinet, actually said during the confirmation
hearing, I have more money than I'll ever need in my life. And so I'm now going to give back to public service. I'm
not quite sure that's how that happened. But I got news for him. The rest of the 300 million Americans, other than
the top 100 in this country,'t have enough money and haven't made
enough money in their life and don't want to have a paycheck cut off because of a funding cut off
and don't want to have to worry about living check to check or where their child is going to
sleep that night or where their senior parent or whatever, where they're going to get their
health care from or where they're going to get their care from But they're so removed they ran on it. That's the disgusting thing about the Trump campaign. They ran on a populist message
I'm you you are me. We are us
Yeah, you're not and you can tell by these executive orders that they're not I'm going to cover the not all the other
22 cases but I am to cover
a few more cases and then transition to China, Canada, and Mexico eating Donald
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Thank you to our Pro-Democracy sponsors and welcome back to PO-POK Live.
We're in the home stretch Tuesday nights, 8 p.m. Eastern Time here on the Midas Touch
Network brand new podcast.
We're going to be doing the video here version of it, but very soon we're going to be launching
sort of a full blown podcastown Podcast same name new photo
That's gonna go up on audio as well. I thought it'd be helpful
I saw some comments on it if you want to do
You know kind of keep track of the litigation a very good place to do it
We thought about building this for ourselves
But norm Iceland does a very good job of it on Just Security. Go to JustSecurity.org and you'll see his litigation tracker of legal challenges to
the Trump administrative actions.
Many of the cases that I'm talking about, you can find outlined there.
I'm going to run through a number of them just so you can see and hopefully take some
comfort and solace by how rapidly the response team is, the triage team is for democracy here,
and how again I'm telling you that Donald Trump's going to see his he's going to get hoisted on his
own petard of the DC courts. Keep an eye on them, I'm going to keep an eye on them closely. Wait,
do you start seeing for instance T, Tonya Chutkin,
who presided over his DC election interference case,
start handling some of these administrative procedure cases,
or Amy Berman Jackson, or Amit Mehta,
or fill in the blank, or Judge Cattelli.
They're just waiting.
I'm sure they're sharpening their knives,
waiting to get a case randomly assigned to them.
So just going through, and he's organized it well,
I like this, he's done by grouped it by a topical.
So on executive action, birthright citizenship
on that executive order, we have,
I'll just do it by courts.
We've got District of New Hampshire,
District of Massachusetts,
two cases of the District of Massachusetts,
one in Maryland, one in Washington State,
one in the District of Columbia, and one in California.
And we've already got, of course,
I said the temporary restraining order
out of Judge Coffinore in Washington.
On immigration policy, we haven't talked about.
I will pick up with it on PO-POC Live next week and on Hot Takes.
But there's a tremendous amount of litigation that's going on about sanctuary city attack
by Donald Trump and trying to punish sanctuary cities and states, which is what
it sounds like. It's basically blue states and cities that are like, no, we're not helping
you deport people. We're not helping you chase human beings through churches and schools
and supermarkets like it's some perverse new sequel to The Purge. We're not doing that.
And of course, Donald Trump wants to go after them. We're not doing that. And of course Donald Trump
wants to go after them. So we have a case that's been filed in the Northern
District of Illinois to challenge that. And the dates on these cases are all
like, you know, January 20th, January 8th, January 30th, February 1. We then on
expedited removal, another immigration policy that harms the undocumented and
violates their due process rights. We've got two cases, the District of Columbia that have been filed, one on January 22, one on February 3.
On the discontinuation, this is so mean-spirited, of the CBP One app, which was an app that was implemented by the
Biden administration at the border, the southern border, to
allow people to schedule their appointments. Kristi Noem
killed it because they don't want to schedule appointments.
They don't want to make it easy on people. Sure, force them to
come through barbed wire fences and go drown in the Rio Grande.
That's much better for a civilized democracy
like America. So that was filed there. Then we've got, that was filed on
January 23rd. Then we've got, oh listen to this, they're denying lawyer access to
immigrants in detention. How unconstitutional of you. How
violative of due process are you. That's been filed again in
District of Columbia in DC. Then we've got
Donald Trump trying to use Schedule F to to hollow out civil servants and get
more of them fired in a retribution way when they're not
allowed to be filed. That generated three separate lawsuits, two in the District of Columbia and
one in Maryland between January 20th and January 29th.
We've got a couple of cases about whether DOJ is even a proper
part of the government or not.
One filed in, two filed in the District of Columbia on the same day,
January 20th, Inauguration Day. Then we've got two others that were filed, there are actually four,
there's four cases filed about Doge all on the 20th of January. Then we've got a case involving
Then we've got a case involving the disclosure of personal and financial records by Doge that was filed on Feb. 3 in DC. We've got the temporary pause of federal funds to states and not-for-profits, you know, the illegal impoundment by Donald Trump. That's resulted in two separate cases. One in Rhode Island where a judge there, Judge McConnell, has issued a temporary
restraining order finding that the Trump administration effectively are liars
about the fact that they're totally unqualified. The youngest press secretary
ever, Lovette, lied.
Well, she did lie.
She told the truth.
She posted on social media that, you know that thing we
said where we're going to unfreeze the freeze and we're
going to not freeze the funds?
Disregard that.
The funds are still frozen.
Well, the judge says right.
And that's why I have jurisdiction to enter a
temporary restraining order to stop you from doing that and
stop you from harming hundreds of thousands if not millions of people who rely on federal funding for their
livelihood, right? So you got two different cases. We just got a temporary restraining order in the
second case today issued by Judge Ali Khan in DC who also relied on the Rhode Island case, but also said, yeah, I don't like this press
secretary's statement either, and it's an indication that the Trump administration is
not telling the truth, is lying to courts, and I'm going to enjoin that. So both of them
have issued restraining orders, stopping it. So for right now, the federal spigots are
back on for not-for-profit organizations and states that rely on federal funding,
and that means you and me, for now. Subject to a preliminary injunction hearing, which I expect to take place in the next two to three weeks,
then subject to two separate appellate tracks, one for the First Circuit up in New Hampshire and the other one in the D.C.
Court of Appeals, and then somehow getting to the United States Supreme Court all within the next 90
days and we'll follow it here. We've got a new case that was filed on February
3rd by the Alliance for Retired Americans against the Treasury Secretary
for giving Elon Musk access to those servers I talked to you about at the bureau that's responsible for making payments.
Let's see what else. We've got the executive action I just talked to you about about housing of transgender inmates
resulting in the new temporary restraining order that just came out today in Doe vs. McHenry by Judge Lamberth. We've got a lawsuit that was filed to stop immigration
enforcement from going into churches to go round up undocumented. Think about
how to... I talked about sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. What's more of a
sanctuary than a church? We actually have to go to court to stop raids in churches. That
case is pending in the District of Maryland. That was filed on January 27th.
We've got the DEI lawsuits that have been filed against Donald Trump, also in the
District of Maryland. There's about four different cases on DEI. You see where
this is going? All right, I wanna switch gears now
and round out Popeye Live and talk about trade wars.
Put on my Wall Street hat.
Let me start it this way.
Donald Trump doesn't understand trade.
He doesn't understand tariffs.
Neither do the people around him.
You cannot tariff your way
to a properly functioning US economy. And it's also a
depraved way to destabilize our allies at the time when we need them for other
things like intelligence gathering and national security and just having the
global economy hum in the right direction. It's so bad that we are two
weeks into the Trump administration and JP Morgan Chase and other Wall Street
analysts have taken a look at his actions and they've said that the Trump administration is not business
friendly. I thought that's how he got elected, that he's a business person and he knows how to run a
company, therefore he knows how to run a government. Not to Wall Street where it matters. And the trade war is over.
And Canada, Mexico, and China won.
Okay? I thought that it was non-negotiable.
I thought it was really important.
Listen to this BS.
It was really important. Let's stay with Canada for a minute.
Canada is allowing in fentanyl.
And we have fentanyl overdoses in this country.
We got to get to the bottom of fentanyl inter we have fentanyl overdoses in this country. We got to get
to the bottom of fentanyl interdiction in Canada and make them do it and stop
illegal immigrants. I'm just staying in Canada for a minute. And then we've been
subsidizing them with 200 billion dollars. I don't even know what he's talking
about. There is almost one trillion dollars worth of trade between Canada and
the United States, thank God. We are ahead in service economy. In other words, technology, AI,
consulting companies, law firms, management firms, consulting firms that provide goods, sorry,
provide services to Canada. We're slightly ahead in that trade. They're slightly ahead, slightly,
slightly, like $50 billion, that's all. And in a one trillion dollar back and forth, that's not a lot of money.
They're slightly ahead on goods
because what they sell to us is really, really expensive,
like rare earth metals and minerals and natural resources
and utilities and power and electric
that's used by our factories
and our manufacturing plant to make our products.
And there is no fentanyl problem in Canada.
There's no interdiction problem in Canada.
If you think I'm making it up, 48 total pounds of fentanyl
were stopped at the border last year in Canada.
48.
That's like half a suitcase.
That's literally half a suitcase.
Now, Mexico, I'll get to in a minute.
Different issue, 20,000 pounds. 48 pounds, like one person in one suitcase. Now Mexico, I'll get to in a minute, different issue, 20,000 pounds, 48 pounds,
like one person in one suitcase. You ever see that show on Hulu or Netflix where it's the drug
agents at customs and immigration around the world and they stop people that have like smuggled
cocaine in a baby bottle, washer thing, whatever, or suitcase,
secret compartments.
That's it.
And immigration, there's not a porous border at Canada.
Has Donald Trump and the people in his administration
ever visited Canada?
I don't mean on private jet.
I mean, if they ever visited Canada, I have.
Yeah.
It's one of the only countries where the US Border Patrol
is on their side of the border.
You could actually check out from the airport in the US, to the US, from Canada.
You're stamped in Canada between them and their immigration and their Royal Mounted Police.
They don't have that problem.
So for JD Vance, who's allegedly smart, although who's seen him lately?
I haven't seen him lately.
Is he like in a bunker?
Is he is he the the last survivor? What's going on here? He doesn't say I like Canada. I have Canadian friends
Oh, here we go, but
You know, we got to get to the bottom of fentanyl
Are you like insane?
No, because it's a false narrative that they use in order to shove these things down our throat.
And who won the trade war?
Trudeau and Ontario's premier, Doug Ford,
who ripped up his contract with Starlink and said,
we don't need a $70 million US Starlink contract
to give remote Ontarians internet.
We'll do without it because we're not gonna do business
with somebody who's trying to wreck the Canadian economy or the world economy for that matter
So service is a way for Canada fire back at us. They already imposed their own tariffs
I mean, there's a 30-day cooling off period to allow them to reload on which tariffs
They're gonna fit us with at the end of the 30 days
and
Well, they said oh, we'll we'll help with a little interdiction,
but we're also going to hit you with a 20% tariff on things that matter to you. Energy,
right? Call things that things that matter. So we have that going on. So that's a win
for Trudeau and for Ontario. And it's a non-existent trade deficit. It's it is it had one trillion dollars
That's a 50 billion on either side of it of the aisle doesn't matter. It's it's it's a it's a it's a false story
It's a wag the dog. It's not a thing
It's a thing for Donald Trump to act like a tough guy in North America
Okay, and in Mexico who among us doesn't believe that Claudia Scheinbaum didn't eat Donald Trump's lunch on the bus stop?
I want to change the Constitution.
I'll join with the Heritage Foundation and the Federalists.
I want to change it to make Claudia Scheinbaum our president.
She's tougher than he is.
He's saying, Gulf of America.
She's up at a map in front of her own people saying, why don't we go back to the original name for United States?
Mexico America sounds sounds great. You know, he says you're a member of a narco cartel. She says
Kiss your automotive industry and the assembly plants and the parts manufactured in Mexico
Goodbye Yeah, cuz Donald Trump doesn't
understand the world economy. He doesn't understand that Japan uses Mexico to build and assemble
electronics and they're an ally. He doesn't understand that US domestic car manufacturing
is done a lot in Mexico. And if you tariff your way without warning, all you're
gonna do is have retaliatory tariffs on the way back as you crash the US economy.
And she has a phone call with him and says she'll put a hundred
thousand new troops on a border. A border that's already been secured by Biden
before he left office. I'll do that and in return I got another 30 days. She's
reloading. She's reloading.
She's reloading on how she's gonna ring fence
and protect her economy
and now have an extra 30 days of planning
because she's smarter than Donald Trump,
because she's got sharper elbows than Donald Trump
because she grew up at the knee
of leaders of Mexican politics.
I've said this with admiration.
She's the Nancy Pelosi of Mexico.
And nobody, nobody strong arm Nancy Pelosi,
not even Donald Trump.
So that happened.
And then China said, you want to tariff us?
Fine.
20, what's your number?
10%, we'll see your 10%. We'll raise your 5.
15% on liquefied natural gas, on farm equipment, and on oil.
How about that?
You like that?
Donald Trump's going to go, I'm going to have a phone call with the president of China.
I'm going to get to the bottom.
Get to the bottom of what?
All, I'm going to say this one more time.
And I'm not frustrated at our time. I'm not frustrated in our
audience, I'm just frustrated. When Donald Trump and the State Department for
Donald Trump pulls us out of the world economy and out of the diplomacy that
goes with helping those in third world and second world countries, you know, the
impoverished, the famine relief, health care, and the rest.
When we pull out, not only are we taking away US jobs that are backing all those things,
but we are playing into the hands of the Chinese and the Russians,
who are going to gladly step forward and fill the gap.
We don't want to build the bridge or the infrastructure, the power plant in Panama.
China will. We don't want to do
we don't want to do inoculations and vaccinations and and food and show
people how to take you know dirt and you know what sand and turn it into
farm and fertile land. The Russians will do it. The Chinese will do it. The reason
you can't run, I mean I know they love America first, America's for Americans.
You know, that's terrific, except we're interconnected in a flat,
hot world in a global economy.
And you're supposed to be using our powerful economics as a lever
to support democracy around the world
and to protect our national security and interests. Not give the Chinese the ability to stroke their own checks to get people on their side.
That's why we've lost the African continent to Russia and China.
Because we ignored it for so long because we pulled away from diplomacy and we pulled away from funding.
So all we're doing is, this is not even a joke anymore, Donald Trump is a
successful unifier. You know all of his people are like Donald Trump, he is,
he's unifying the world and its economy against America very very successfully.
All of those countries, our NATO allies, our allies, all the ones that are
literally laughing at him on the phone, are creating their own trade
organizations, their own currency exchange. They're looking away from the
West and they're looking to the East and they're looking to China and Russia, who
will more than willingly, in order to get a sphere of influence. Use their dollars and their yen and their ruble to do so.
And this is another failing of Trump. There is no Trump doctrine. There is no, you know,
erratic is not a doctrine. Chaos is not a doctrine, domestic or foreign. All it's gonna do is crush America domestically
and in foreign policy.
We, we, we are supposed to be the leaders of the free world.
That used to be a thing.
We used to be the, our brand of democracy
is a shining light, was,
but not in the hands of Donald Trump.
We're not making any new democracies around the world.
We're not strengthening any new democracies, existing democracies, sorry, around the world.
What are we doing? We're emboldening our enemies. We're showing that we're being run by an executive
who lacks executive function, right? Who Scaramucci once said is literally insane.
once said is literally insane and and what do you think our enemies see in that right they are emboldened because he's erratic and because he could be
easily and the American people can be easily misled through social media and
campaigns and things like that I mean he just hasn't he just made an
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money he's gonna use your and my money.
He's going to use your and my money because he doesn't pay taxes.
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which by the way the Biden administration was considering,
in order to take taxpayer dollars and other funds and revenue,
divert it away from where it can do some good,
which is helping Americans and those that voted for him, and
diverting it to a sovereign wealth fund under the Treasury, and then use the money in the sovereign wealth fund to help buy or
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not have run for office. So we're gonna continue to follow everything
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