Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Popok GIVES URGENT Legal Update After DAY 1

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

Legal AF's Popok provides an urgent live briefing to our audience on late-breaking events and answers questions too! Tonight, Popok discusses: the 7 new cases filed against Trump in less than 24 hours including to block his attempts to deny people and babies born here US citizenship in violation of the 14th Amendment; against his phony "DOGE" office; and to stop him from gutting civil servants and firing hundreds of thousands of government employees; Trump pardoning criminal defendants convicted beyond a reasonable doubt of beating and maiming and almost killing law enforcement along with those convicted of using violence to overthrow the government; Trump rewarding his donors by re-instating private prisons (owned by his donors) to house his phony "tough on crime" convicts; a progressive Bishop lecturing a stony silent Trump to his face in the National Cathedral; and a new bombshell affidavit accusing Pete Hegseth of physically abusing and threatening his wives, now being considered by the Armed Services Committee. Support Our Sponsors: GRAZA: Go to https://graza.com and use code: LEGALAF to get 10% off your Graza Starter Kit and get to cookin' your next chef quality meal! SMALLS: Smalls: Head to https://Smalls.com/LEGALAF and use promo code: LEGALAF at checkout for 50% off your first order PLUS free shipping! DOSE: Dose: Save 30% on your first month of subscription by going to https://dosedaily.co/LEGALAF or entering LEGALAF at checkout. HIMS: Thanks to HIMS! Start your free online visit today at https://hims.com/legalaf for your personalized ED treatment options. Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Download the free CBC News app or visit cbcnews.ca. Welcome to PO-POK Live on the Midas Touch Network. I am Michael Popok. I'm taking questions. I'm giving answers. I don't take any prisoners and I don't pull any punches. You're on PO-POK Live. There should be a counter for how many lawsuits Donald Trump is going to have filed against his administration and people in his government during the next four years. We're a day and a half in. We've got six lawsuits already filed. You know I'm gonna cover them here on PO-POK Live. We got a day and a half in. We've got six lawsuits already filed. You know I'm going to cover them here on POPOC Live. We've got two lawsuits filed in federal court against his

executive order trying to end birthright citizenship, a constitutional right enshrined in the 14th Amendment by executive order. If you're scrunching up your nose thinking, how can a president through executive order end a constitutionally protected right? He can't, and that's what the two lawsuits are going to prove in their two separate venues. How about that Department of Government efficiency? Well, in the middle of the night, I don't know if you noticed, Donald Trump just changed the very purpose of the Department of Government efficiency. Maybe that's why Vivek Ramaswamy

headed for the exit even before the administration started in order to run for the governor of Ohio, leaving Elon Musk the sole run of the House related to DOGE. Now, all Donald Trump did was take a big Sharpie pen, cross out the Office of Digital Affairs and made it the Office of Doge Service. Now its focus is on not on cutting $3 trillion, but on trying to make the government more efficient when it comes to technology. What is going on? Three new lawsuits against the Department of Government Affairs would like to know. Then we've got the Schedule F lawsuit. Yes, yes. Now's your time to grab a big tub of popcorn and your favorite libation.

Schedule F is what Donald Trump wants to use to try to eliminate civil servants. He wants to classify hundreds of thousands of civil servants in the government as political appointees in order to get rid of them. And there's a new lawsuit to try to stop them from doing that. Then I'm going to talk about what else, something that only our only felon president could ever do, including those that attacked, maimed, beat, tried to kill, and did successfully take the life of law enforcement with 1,600 pardons for Jan 6th criminal defendants, including

the most violent, including waving a magic wand and commuting the sentence of over 100 years for the leaders of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers who were convicted by juries and judges doing their civic duty in a public justice system of seditious conspiracy, which I need to remind our felon in chief that that means that they were found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of trying to overthrow through violent means our government. Pardoned. Tale of two pardons, right? Joe Biden's pardons of the Jan 6 Committee versus the 1600 Jan 6 defendants who are literally have been set free. Enrique Tarrio, the leader of the Proud Boys who was convicted and sentenced to 22 years, he's

already celebrating in Miami. Then I want to talk about this bishop who in the National Cathedral today, Bishop Bud decided properly to use her bully pulpit to go after Donald Trump and ask him to use his mercy not to discriminate against the LGBTQ plus community, against immigrants, against other people that he, as the President of the United States, should protect, not discriminate against, not criminalize. And we'll talk about how that particular sermon in the National Cathedral went today with Donald Trump, Melania, JD Vance, and his wife Usha in the first row all staring down at their shoes. They should have known better. She took on Donald Trump in 2020 when he walked across and had the military clear

Trump in 2020 when he walked across and had the military clear the grounds of the White House so he could walk over to a church off Lafayette Park with an upside-down Bible. She didn't like that either. He should have known that if she was going to be presiding over that sermon that he was going to have to sit there and take it, which happened. I don't think he could fire her, but I'm going to make the broader point. It is the church leaders, the temple leaders, synagogue leaders, mosque leaders, who during the civil rights movement led this country to justice. Same thing's going to have to happen here. It's going to have to be a combination of the public interest groups I'm going to talk about during the lawsuit section of PopePakL Live combined with church leaders, religious figures, and the rest, this audience, the Midas Touch Network,

and the rest. We've got to join together now. Donald Trump is drunk with power, issuing all sorts of crazy, a couple of hundred executive orders. It'll take me weeks just to do hot takes to catch you up on all of them and their implications. But I'm going to talk about them now, including one in which Donald Trump has completely bent over to allow people that donated huge money to him to profit with his new executive order, allowing private prison systems to be used by the Department of Justice.

That's something that Joe Biden got rid of in his first days in office. And who's gonna benefit? Two major companies who were huge donors to Donald Trump. They wanted this, they bought Donald Trump, and he paid it back today with an executive order, which now allows private prisons to run, to be used by the Department of Justice. And then we're gonna touch on this bombshell report

just came out before I started recording PO-PAC Live about Pete Hegseth, the Department of Defense nominee, whose ex-sister-in-law submitted an affidavit under oath through Jack Reed, the ranking Democrat on the Armed Services Committee, saying that her sister, who was married at the time to Pete Hegseth, feared for her life during most of that marriage,

that she had a safe word that she would use with the sister-in-law if he was beating her, that she had to hide in a closet in order to avoid being beaten, that she observed Hegseth, even in military uniform, being drunk and abusive. And now, and the reason she said she turned it over is because Jack Reed told her that this is what he needed in order to get a few on the fence Republicans

not to support Pete Hegseth, who is wholly unqualified and unfit to run the Pentagon. We'll continue to follow it all right here on Popak Live. Thank you for being here. This audience is just blossoming before my very eyes and I'm humbled by it. We're averaging about a half a million views a week. We get about 10 to 20,000 in the chat. I'm getting a lot of connectivity with our audience through my Blue Sky account at MS Popak where you can leave questions and I'll give answers.

It's really just heartwarming. We stand on the shoulders of the Midas Touch Network on the Legal AF podcast of all the work that I've been doing over the last two and a half years. And now you know, and if you don't know, I'm going to tell you, I'm full time. I'm full time ever since the election. I made the decision with my family to go full time working with the Midas Touch Network, working on the Legal AF YouTube channel,

working on hot takes, working on new podcasts like this PopePok Live. And I can't think of a better calling. It really is a calling to do. I got another huge announcement. It's gonna be about two weeks away where I'm gonna be doing something in collaboration with Legal AF, the Midas Touch Network, and another organization that's going to be dedicated

to seeking justice for those in our audience. It's a teaser. I'm not ready yet. Another two weeks. It's in the works. Trust me, I'm working night and day on this project. Hopefully hopefully you're going to love it and love our focus on our audience on this one and helping them obtain the justice that they deserve. Let's dive in. We got a counter, right? We got a counter going here. Six lawsuits. Let's start with birthright citizenship. The Constitution guarantees after our Civil War that all people born here on US soil, regardless of their parentage, regardless of their parents, are automatically US citizens. We call it jus soil, right? It's Latin French for you're born here, you're American citizen. That's been enshrined in the Constitution since the 1860s.

We had a Supreme Court case 30 years later in 1898, and it's never wavered, in which the Supreme Court said, if you're born here, regardless of if your parents are subject to the jurisdiction and to the laws of another country like China in the case of the Supreme Court case, you are a US citizen.

Now MAGA likes to call them anchor babies. Anchor babies, they're fellow US citizens. And one of them may be particularly, one of them may be the next United States president. Hell, there's people in Donald Trump's potential cabinet that are technically anchor babies who were born here by parents who were marginally documented. And so the 14th Amendment, Section 1, the only piece of stray language in there that MAGA relies on is that it says if you're the subject to the laws or the jurisdiction of another country or foreign country, that's been interpreted to mean if you're the child of a foreign diplomat.

If you're the child of the ambassador to France who happens to be living in New York and you're born here, you're not a US citizen because they're on diplomatic soil, so to speak. Other than that, it doesn't matter who your parents are. Donald Trump signs an executive order to have all government offices, all government agencies declare that they will not recognize the US citizenship for benefits, for status, for anything else if the baby's mother is either undocumented or here temporarily, but not illegally. So she's either illegal,

undocumented or here only temporarily in some sort of asylum status, and the father's not a U.S. citizen naturalized or otherwise. That is not how the 14th Amendment Section 1 works or how it's been interpreted. That is a gift that we give to anyone who was born here. You are automatically a U.S. citizen and don't have to fear to be deported or sent back to some other country because this is your country. And to answer the question, can Donald Trump, by executive order, alter a constitutional amendment? Let me answer that question. The answer is no. Just picture it like rock, paper, scissor. The answer is no. Just picture it like rock, paper, scissor. Rock is the constitutional amendment, 14th Amendment. Scissor is the executive branch and you know from the playground what

happens there. The only way to amend or change that law, the only way is if there is an amendment to the constitution, two-thirds vote of the states, two-thirds approval by the House and the Senate. And we know in this divided country of ours, we're not getting two thirds of people to agree on anything. Or you get a Supreme Court to interpret it your way if you're MAGA. Now, the Supreme Court already doesn't like when executive orders, which seems to be how Donald Trump is going to run his administration because he doesn't believe that MA orders, which seems to be how Donald Trump is going to run his administration because he doesn't believe that MAGA Congress can get any laws passed, which he's right about. So as I said, after the election, he's going to try to govern by

executive order, which is great for us, fair-minded, fair-thinking Democrats, because that's going to lead to him abusive power, doing things that he's not authorized to do, doing things inconsistent with congressional law, doing things inconsistent with constitutional law, lawsuit, lawsuit, lawsuit, lawsuit. As I said at the top of PopePak Live today, six lawsuits already filed. Multiply the number of, well, let's say we had a thousand lawsuits or so that were filed in the first Trump administration. It'll be 3,000 now, guaranteed. Guaranteed. So the Supreme Court has a doctrine we call the Major Questions doctrine. They don't like executive orders on really big issues that should be resolved by the Constitution or by

Congress. And they're not going to support under the major questions doctrine having Donald Trump with a flick of his pen and some word processor to change birthright citizenship under his 14th amendment. That's not happening. This is dead on arrival. I'm going to talk about the couple of lawsuits here. This is dead on arrival. This was the pander to MAGA and then have the courts reject it and then have the courts reject it, and then have Donald Trump complain about it. That's what we're watching. And so whether it's under major questions or other,

I don't see the United States Supreme Court supporting Donald Trump on this issue. I just don't. Now look, I know. Where have I heard of a Supreme Court misinterpreting the 14th Amendment to benefit Donald Trump? Oh, right. The Colorado insurrectionist ballot case and 14th Amendment Section 3. Could they go that route again? But that was to benefit Donald Trump and get him reelected. There's no other way around that analysis. That was that. That was like a 9-0 vote. Here, this is a completely different case. This is John Roberts,

the Chief Justice, having to be part of his legacy, not only ripping away a constitutional right for a woman to choose under Roe v. Wade, but he's going to deny birthright citizenship in the 14th Amendment and overturn an over 124 year precedent, I don't think so. And I don't think Amy Coney Barrett, the mother of, I think she's got eight children. I don't think she's gonna go along with this either. And the reason I mentioned her

is not because I love Amy Coney Barrett, I mostly don't. But she is the swing vote. It's becoming the Amy Coney Barrett court. Because don't. But she is the swing vote. It's becoming the Amy Coney Barrett court because she's the swing vote voting with the majority more than the others. We can't count on Gorsuch. He's gone. He's gone. He's with Alito and Thomas on almost everything. Kavanaugh is a free radical. You don't know where he's going to go. Roberts is worried about his legacy because he wrote the immunity decision, he wrote the Colorado ballot initiative decision, he didn't take Alito off the writing of the opinion for the Dobbs decision on Roe vs. Wade.

It's his court. I see easily Robert's, Amy Coney Barrett siding with the Democratic majority, the Democratic wing of the Supreme Court and shooting this all down. Now, the lawsuits have been filed. There's two separate ones. In New Hampshire Federal Court, now remember, before I get to the courts, the venues are important here. The courts are important here. The appellate courts are important here. Just as the Republicans and MAGA want to do their Texas two-step all the time, file in Texas, take it to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, then take it to the United States Supreme Court. We, as fair-minded Democrats and progressives, we got to do our own version.

That would mean the First Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers New Hampshire, Massachusetts, the Second Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers New York and Connecticut, the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers New Jersey and the like, right? That's, and the DC Court of Appeals, that's where we have to live. California and the Ninth Circuit used to be very reliable, it's getting a little bit less reliable, but I would throw that still in there too in California. Stay away from the Midwest, stay away from the South,

stay away from the Fifth Circuit, right? And that's where these lawsuits need to go, and that's where they're going. First case filed against Birthright Citizenship Executive Order hours after it was signed is in New Hampshire. It's brought fundamentally by the American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU. I said earlier in November, watch the ACLU. Watch new organizations made, including ones by Norm Eisen, who's a friend of the pod and a friend of the channel, to defend democracy. He's formed some groups there, the NAACP, the ACLU, a group by Norm Eisen, and then some other groups like LULAC, the Latin Urban Cities organization, and an Indonesian community support group, because the Indonesians came to New Hampshire in 2023, and they're having babies.

I don't believe in sterilizing people who just arrived here, right? And so they're having babies. The question is, why aren't those babies Americans? Why are they second class citizens? Donald Trump says, well, they're here on a temporary asylum visa, so we're not going to recognize their children. Where does it say that in the Constitution? So that group mobilized behind the Indonesian community, but they're seeking, just as the other lawsuit I'll tell you about, they're seeking a full block, nationwide block

of this order. Now Trump put a 30-day timer in it. His law doesn't go into effect for about 30 days. So we got some time for this litigation. He anticipated it. So that's the New Hampshire case. Under the 14th Amendment violation, under some other laws, asking the court to block it and declare it's unconstitutional. Now, 22 other

states have gotten together and split their suits into two separate suits. So really there's really seven suits that have now been filed against Donald Trump. The 22 or so states have joined have joined together. 18 states in two cities, San Francisco and DC, are in one case in Massachusetts. Again, same, the First Circuit Court of Appeals, same as New Hampshire. So we've got two cases sitting in the First Circuit, 18 states there, including Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Michigan, Maine, Minnesota, Vermont, Maryland. They're all joined together there. And then in another case, in the Western District of Washington State, federal, all federal, just to be clear, these are not state issues.

Constitution, subject matter jurisdiction, federal court. In Washington, which reports to the Ninth Circuit, we've got Arizona, Washington, Illinois, and Oregon filing there. Same case, but they're flooding the zone. This is the portfolio method of filing. I've handled class action cases where we filed in nine different jurisdictions at the same time.

I get it. Ninth circuit here, two cases at the first circuit, the two that I've talked about, the ACLU case I'll call it, and the other one revol, the ACLU case, I'll call it, and the other one involving the other 22 states. Massachusetts, one in Washington, Ninth Circuit, First Circuit. This is gonna go quick.

We're gonna go really quick on this. Briefing, emergency, temporary injunctions, probably within the next four to six weeks. Emergency appeals to the first and the ninth. Maybe we get the same ruling, maybe we get a split decision and an emergency application to the United States Supreme Court. In the first and the ninth, the first justice on the top of each of those circuits from the United States Supreme Court is the Democratic wing of the court. You see where this is going? It's the Sotomayor, the Katanji-Brown Jacksons, the Cagans, and the like. They cover first and ninth, and then United States Supreme Court. Then when you get there,

let's say in the next two months, you got to aim for Amy Coney Barrett, the mother of eight children, They got to aim for Amy Coney Barrett, the mother of eight children, constitutional scholar allegedly from Notre Dame University, and get her along with Roberts to side with Katanji Brown Jackson Kagan and Sotomayor and kill it, and kill it now. And then we have to use the fact that he signed this executive order as a community against him, MAGA, those that support him in the midterm elections. We have to see these executive orders as gifts. Yes, there's human trauma that goes along with it, but they're gifts because we can use them politically

and legally against Donald Trump and tie his administration up at knots and make him the lamest of lame duck presidents before the midterm elections. Right? Those are the two, really three, birthright citizenship cases. Let me move on for a moment. When we come back from one of our sponsors, we've got to do that part, pro-democracy sponsors are important. Remember, we're completely independent here. We're people powered, Legal AF are powered, PO-POC powered. I like PO-POC powered tonight.

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But I'm going to talk about it here. Then I'm going to talk about the Schedule F lawsuit to try to hollow out our civil servants and how that's going with a new lawsuit there. That's lawsuit number seven, if we're doing the counter. 1600 pardons of criminals? Of course, only a criminal in chief could do that. I'm going to break down what happened there and the attack on our law enforcement and what message it sends to future people that want to attack our Capitol and be bailed out.

Then I want to talk about Donald Trump reversing a Joe Biden executive order to allow for private prisons to be used by the Department of Justice in order to pay back two major donors of his. One had a company called Geo Group and the other one at Core Civic. And then finally, Donald Trump loved this moment when Bishop Budd in the National Cathedral today in front of the families and Donald Trump told him, but also lectured him, and chastised him. I almost said crucified, but that would not have been the right word at the minute. She's Episcopalian. Telling him to show mercy to those that pick our fruit, that manufacture our products, who build our homes,

who are immigrants, who are not all criminals to the LGBTQ plus and transgender community. Somebody's been reading all the executive orders and Bishop Budd has certainly been doing that. Donald Trump didn't like that very much, but I didn't like hearing about Pete Hegseth being a misogynist and being accused of physically abusing and mentally torturing one of his wives. That came out with a new bombshell sworn statement or affidavit from his ex-sister-in-law

delivered through Jack Reed on the Armed Services Committee to the voting members of the committee. It's not over yet folks we can still make sure that the world knows and the committee knows and the Senate knows that if they confirm this unfit, unqualified, misogynist of a candidate we are going to make them pay and suffer at the midterm elections. So I'm going to follow that as well but first a word from our sponsors. When your car breaks down, you take it to a mechanic with no hesitation. You need it.

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digital integration among federal agencies. So he slipped Doge in there, which looks like it's not going to be cutting costs. It's going to be working on technology and software management and modernization. That's what Doge is going to do. What was I so worried about? Maybe that's why Elon Musk was all excited today when he like, he took a website for one of the agencies offline.

One of the departments offline. Oh, I pushed a button and there's no more department, you know, DEI, diversity, equity and inclusion office. Ha ha ha. Yeah, cause that's all apparently Donald Trump is gonna let him do. This is the incredible shrinking of Elon Musk. Elon Musk, who's worth $400 billion,

thinks he's Donald Trump's equal. He's not. Donald, check the door. Check the money. The name of the place is the President of the United States and Donald Trump is the occupant. He was never going to let Elon Musk wield a lot of power.

You know, it's like, Elon Musk is in an office building next to the White House. He wants to get in the West Wing. Donald Trump said, no, we don't want Elon in the West Wing. And he went from, he's going to be the cost cutter and chief removing $3 trillion for the budget and getting rid of civil servants and dead wood, saving us money to, oh, you run the digital platform. You modernize the servers and the cloud computing, won't you, Elon? And while you're at it, could you get me a Diet Coke?

I'm pushing the button. I'm not making this up. Donald Trump reinstalled on the resolute desk, the desk in the Oval Office, what he refers to and his staff refers to as the Diet Coke button. It is literally a button that when he pushes it, no, I know what you're picturing. You're picturing like a hamster and a giant bottle of Diet Coke comes down and he sucks off of it. No, although I would love that.

It's a button that goes to some who knows who out in front of his office. It lights up and he knows to go or she knows to go to run and get a Diet Coke. So maybe they'll modernize that through Elon Musk. This is the reason I now presume that Vivek Ramaswamy decided to leave before this Doge became basically the digital service. He then ran off and said, well, I'm double parked. Time for me to head off to try to run for the governor of Ohio. Good luck with that, by the way. So this is the incredible shrinking of Doge, the incredible shrinking of Elon Musk before our very eyes, but not before three new lawsuits,

two claiming that it violates the Federal Advisory Committee Act. But now, which is an act that requires, if you're gonna be like a blue ribbon panel or an advisory committee, then you've got to have representation on the panel. It has to be open to the public, has to be transparent. You've got to file a charter with Congress. You've got to keep minutes. Right. So I don't think that works now anymore because he signed the executive order to make

it inside the government by changing the name, apparently, of the United States Digital Service to the United States Doge Service, whatever that means. And then requiring, I thought it was supposed to save money. I didn't realize it was gonna create more red tape. One of the first orders of the Doge executive order is that every federal agency has to set up a four-person Doge team comprised of an IT person, a lawyer, an executive.

I'm like, we're creating more bureaucracy? I thought we were getting rid of it. That was the purpose. So I don't think the lawsuits now work. These two lawsuits that were just filed, again, in favorable venues for us, for the Democrats and the moderates. But there is an argument, a better argument, I believe, of improper delegation of authority. You can't just create these sort of federal departments and federal agencies and have them funded without having

Congress's approval. That's why he said, oh, there's a spigot of money coming through the digital service. We'll make it a Doge service. But as soon as you try to expand its remit and its portfolio, you run afoul of the Administrative Procedures Act. You run afoul of separation of powers. That's the angle, I think, you got to take on these Doge lawsuits. But for right now, I'm less scared of Doge than I was yesterday. And I'm less scared of Elon Musk than I was yesterday because it looks like it's just going to be like modernizing the Coke button on the resolute desk and other things like, you know, we've got to save money on cloud computing. All right, we'll go talk to the billionaire oligarchs that were up on the dais during the inauguration. Why don't we do that? I'm not even talking about the inauguration on PopePak Live. I refuse. I

was watching puppies and cats like the rest of you and celebrating Martin Luther King Jr. Day and I was watching the college national championship. I'm not going to talk about Melania looking like the Hamburglar or she was presiding over a funeral for America. It was morning in America. I just didn't realize which morning they were talking. I'm not going to talk about that. I'm not going to talk about the apocalyptic, weird, crazy, to paraphrase George W. Bush, that was some weird shit speech that Donald Trump gave. I'm not going to talk about that. I'm not going to talk about the Nazi salute given by Elon Musk. No, I refuse. Was JD Vance even there, by the way? So, oh, and then finally, I'm not gonna talk about

the fact that Donald Trump couldn't figure out how to put his hand on the Bible or was afraid that he was gonna be terribly burned when he was being sworn in by John Roberts. Okay, I'm not talking about that. Let me move on to the Doge lawsuit. So the two about whether it violates the federal advisory council or advisory commission act and one about, all right,

well, if you're a federal department, Freedom of Information Act FOIA, public records request, transparent. Give us, that's the other thing. If you're inside the government, you're subject to public records. I said this yesterday during a hot take and that public records request, transparent. That's the other thing. If you're inside the government, you're subject to public records. I said this yesterday during a hot take and that public records request has been filed. That's what we need to do. Whether it's might as touch, legal AF, the new thing I'm working on, I'll talk about at the end of the month. We need to file these kind of freedom of information act requests. That's what we got to do. As we keep Donald Trump honest at the intersection of law and politics. I mean, that's the wrong phrase. We can't keep him honest. We just expose him

so that we can go against him at the midterms and hold MAGA responsible. Let me move on to the Schedule F lawsuit. That sounds like the most boring, but I think that one is one of the most interesting. In that one, there's a union that represents 37 agencies and their employees who filed a lawsuit about the executive order to implement Schedule F or to reinstate Schedule F, which is Donald Trump's attempt to try to classify people not as civil servants who can't lose their job, but as political hires through a bit of alchemy. And they don't like that. And so they're filing a lawsuit. They filed it in the DC trial court, DC Circuit Court. And that's the right place to put it because that goes up to the DC Court of Appeals and again, right court, right venue, right appellate court on the way to the United States

Supreme Court. I think they have a winning argument on schedule F as well. That would be if you're following at home, you're playing the Trump lawsuit home game, that's case number seven against him and we're less than two days into his administration. Now let me turn to pardons. Pardon me, I'm turning to pardons. Joe Biden got a lot of flack for some of his pardons. Oh, it stained his, it indelibly stained his legacy because he pardoned his son. Are you kidding me?

He pardoned his family. Once know, once Donald Trump went into I'm going to weaponize the Department of Justice, I'm going to use Cash Patel, FBI and Pam Bondi, Department of Justice to go after my enemies. I mean, what choice was left for Joe Biden? We would have thought he was senile if he hadn't entered into all of those pardons. have thought he was senile if he hadn't entered into all of those pardons. Like, what father would leave his son to the clutches of his arch enemy and crazed anti-law and order President Trump? Nobody. And the fact that he did the same thing for the Biden crime family, another word for his brothers and sister-in-laws, you know, that's, that's a reflection of Trump. If Trump wasn't following Biden, if a Carter or an Obama or a Clinton was

following, he wouldn't have to pardon these people. But when Donald Trump makes threats to go after Liz Cheney, Benny Thompson, all of the Jan six committee, the prosecutors in the law and the like, he needs to put them under a protective shield. So my problem with Joe Biden frankly was not too many pardons, including trying to right the wrong from back in the 80s of having people serve too long a sentence for crack cocaine versus powdered cocaine, which fell disproportionately on the black and brown community. I was fine with all that.

And fine with commuting the sentences of death row people, that's where my humanity sort of lies, and give them life sentences without possibility of parole. My problem wasn't the amount of computations and pardons for Joe Biden. He didn't do enough. As I've said before, I'll say it again, Jack Smith should have got a pardon in his whole team. The FBI worked, anybody who worked against Donald Trump in a criminal or other setting needed to get a pardon. That's my view. Fonny Willis, Fulton County DA, Letitia James, New York Attorney General, Judge Angoron presided over the $450 million fraud case,

Judge Mershon, the 34 felony count conviction, Judge Chutkin, the DC election interference case. All of these people needed a pardon. You know, Christopher Ray, FBI, but they didn't come. 10-6 committee got them, Biden family, Hunter Biden, some other people. I thought there actually would be, I was actually surprised. I thought there'd be a lot more pardons at the end, even the last couple of days. I thought Michael Cohen earned and deserved a pardon. And I asked for it, I thought there'd be a lot more pardons at the end, even the last couple of days. I thought Michael Cohen earned and deserved a part and I asked for it. I called for it. I had Michael on the show to talk about it and it didn't happen. So now we switch gears. 1600 pardons, which is about the number I said it was going to be. There's more to come by the way. The first wave was a Jan Sixers. Even JD Vance said that his boss shouldn't pardon the most violent of the Jan Six insurrectionists.

The ones caught on video, the ones caught on audio, the ones who had their own social media posts about what they were doing. Maybe they shouldn't be released from prison. The ones that beat, brain, maimed, tried to kill police, maybe they shouldn't be released from prison. The ones that beat, brain, maim, try to kill police, maybe they shouldn't. I mean, let me just, just as an example, I want to see if I can find this quick enough. Just an example, we know from the

adversarial criminal justice system and the trials that happened, hundreds and hundreds of them. These people were armed with firearms, with flagpoles, with fire extinguishers, with furniture, with baseball bats, with guns, with explosive devices. And they attacked over 150 of our law enforcement. Some of them, many of them retired and took disability because they were so brutally attacked during this pitched battle, especially at the Western Terrace or inside the Capitol itself. Right? We know that two law enforcement died. Sorry, two took their own life. That's how bad things were.

Brian Sicknick died the day after from having been pepper sprayed and had a heart attack at the ripe old age of 40 something. Others were crushed in the door. They had their own equipment used against them and to be beaten. Even JD Vance said, we shouldn't let them out until he was mercilessly attacked by MAGA and then he walked it back. Yeah? Most of America thinks that these people shouldn't be pardoned. That Donald Trump shouldn't do that. I think it's something like 60% or more thinks Donald Trump should not have done that. That means we have to make him pay politically. He used scarce political capital to do this because he made that promise. They're already out. Enrique Tarrio, 22 years

for seditious conspiracy. Let me remind Donald Trump what seditious conspiracy is. It's advocating the violent overthrow of our government. They were convicted of that beyond a reasonable doubt in front of a jury or a judge, or they pled guilty to it. He also commuted the sentences of all of the leadership of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers. You know, Stuart Rhodes, the eyepatch guy, out, going to be out, directed his new head of the Department of Justice to immediately process all of these parts. He didn't even have the, he was too lazy to even write all their names out. He just listed seven or eight that he was going to commute their sentence, shorten their sentence, and wipe away a hundred years of sentencing. And the rest, he left to his Department of Justice

and his Bureau of Prisons to figure it out. But Enrique Tarrio somehow is out, somebody opened this jail cell. So Donald Trump has released, has opened the jail cells and released hardened criminals and people who beat and maimed police. Think about that the next time you're voting for MAGA. Next time you're voting for the GOP or anything related to Donald Trump. I'm talking to you law enforcement,

people around law enforcement. You think he supports you? He doesn't. He doesn't. I you law enforcement, people around law enforcement. You think he supports you? He doesn't. He doesn't. You know, I see law enforcement and blue get together at funerals and support each other. Did Donald Trump just have your back when he let out people who violently attacked the police just doing their job protecting democracy? I don't think so.

So you got that going on. I mean, it's something that only a person who's the first felon to ever occupy the Oval Office could pull off. But again, it's not just about reporting here on Popeyes Live. It's about encouraging and energizing our community to do something about it. Nine million Democrats stayed home and sat out democracy on November 5th. 20 million registered voters didn't vote. I know everyone's all, oh, the check the ballots and there's voter fraud and they flip votes

and forget all that. We lost nine million votes. The people didn't show up. 20 million people said, I'll sit out democracy. And we need those people back. We could always count on democratic enthusiasm. We could always count on democratic turnout. We could always count on democratic mail-in ballots.

We can always count at Democrats to midterm and independents that join with Democrats and progressives. Not this time. We got to reclaim it. And this type of analysis and this type of community building here on POPOC Live, on Legal AF, on the Minus Touch Network gets us there. Yeah? So let's continue. That's the pardon process. Let's move on to prisons. Well, in fact, before I get to prisons, I talk about how Donald Trump has benefited his benefactors who donated a lot of money to them by reinstating something that Joe Biden got rid of four years

ago. When Joe Biden took office, there were 14,000 prisoners sitting in private jails. And he took those 14,000, had them return to the Bureau of Prisons, and he canceled those contracts. Now that's different from the immigration detention centers that are being operated privately. The federal marshals have contracts with the private detention centers. This relates to convicted federal criminals ending up in private jails, you know, which is a bad thing, a bad look for our country. I'll talk to you about that more. And then I want to talk about Bishop Budd versus Donald Trump today in the National Cathedral and why it matters and new information about Pete Hegseth and the

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major donors to Donald Trump, one called the GEO Group, one called CoreCivic that donated tons of money to Donald Trump and couldn't wait for an executive order by him, which has already happened, which now allows the Department of Justice and that led by Pam Bondi to use private jails. Just to give you an idea, they were already making tons of money, hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars a year from contracts with other aspects of our government. For instance, the GEO Group gets 41% of its revenue from its relationship with immigration detention centers. CORE Civic gets 30% of its revenue

from immigration detention centers and 21% from the Federal Marshal Service. This is big business folks, and it's unsavory to have people coming out of our criminal justice system be taken away by capitalists, so to speak, and private jail systems. And so we now have the reporting that Donald Trump has ended it and has now allowed his Department of Justice to enter these contracts. You can hear the champagne bottles popping at Geo Group and CoreCivic. Now look, there's immigration detention centers

that are operated by them. I got a whole different approach to immigration and the deportation raids that have apparently been put off because Donald Trump kept talking about them so much that the element of surprise was ruined. Why don't we stop with detention centers and why don't we launch a new Ellis Island project, just like my grandparents came through? And why don't we have immigration processing centers and bring all, instead of

putting them in cages, instead of trying to fight whether a baby has birthright citizenship or not, or should be separated from their parents and put in a cage, why don't we have and use our resources to have a dignified immigration policy and have a Ellis Island style project? When my grandparents came through Ellis Island, that was an immigration and naturalization processing center. We shorthanded it as Ellis Island. They came off the boat, they were processed. I don't know if it was Green Card or whatever they called it back then

when my group came in in the early 1900s, but they left, documented, to use the term of the day, and on their way to citizenship. There's no greater citizens and patriots than my grandparents. There's no greater citizen or patriot than my wife who had the fortune to win the green card lottery. Literally, yes, people do win that. She did not intend to

come to this country originally. She was on her way to Italy. I never would have met her. I'm glad that she didn't do that. But she applied for green card citizenship. She got it. She got her green card several months later. She got her citizenship five years after that. And my wife cries at the national anthem, our national anthem. There's no bigger patriot that we've created than through a dignified immigration process.

Give us an Ellis Island Immigration and Naturalization, sorry, Center, not a detention center, run by private entities. That's what I'm calling for here on PO-POK Live. So let me move on to our final two stories today on the show. Some of you may have already seen it. I got a hot take up already on Legal AF, the YouTube channel. It's the courage and character and leadership of somebody like Bishop Marjorie Edgar Budd, who gave a sermon for the ages today. I mean, talk about courage. Talk about truth to power. This was a lecture to power. While she had a prone Donald Trump, Melania, Janie Vance, and Usha Vance in front of her, she decided to use her moment to oppose Donald Trump's worst instincts and to beg him for

mercy on behalf of the underprivileged, to beg him for mercy for the transgender community, for the LGBTQ plus community, for immigrants. And she called him out in about a 10 minute sermon. Donald Trump didn't like it. He said that we could have done better. That wasn't very exciting. He exchanged nervous glances with JD Vance, wordless comments.

Melania just stared straight ahead. Usha just stared straight ahead. She is the daughter of immigrants. We know Donald Trump's policies about the transgender community just in the last two days. In the last day, he's issued two executive orders. One to have the United States government only recognize two genders, male and female. The other to eliminate from Title IX protection at our universities and our higher education places transgender protections. We know where he's at, but it's for our clergy. It's for our spiritual leaders wherever they may reside. Yes, Donald Trump should have known better when he saw that

Bud was going to be the bishop for today. I mean, Bud challenged him already in 2020 when he saw that Bud was gonna be the bishop for today. I mean, Bud challenged him already in 2020 when he used the church for political prop, when he was going during Black Lives Matter to go from the back door of the White House through Lafayette Park to get to a church, I think an Episcopal church, right there with an upside down Bible using the military inappropriately to clear the way.

She hated that. She took them on. She did a video about it. She said it was inappropriate. It was disgusting. It was a sacrilege and it should never happen again. So she's a progressive Episcopalian bishop. What did he think was going to happen?

And I don't think he can remove her. Let's answer the question in one of my chat in my blue sky at MS Popok. I don't think he could remove her from the National Cathedral. It's not technically a part of the executive branch. And we're going to need in these times the clergy to step forward along with the secular leaders. And the leadership here, I might as touch on Legal AF and my own and my law firms and all, we're going to need in this community to step forward, not back, just like in the civil rights movement. The reason the civil rights movement, think about who led the civil rights movement, Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr., and others that held clergy titles. Jesse Jackson, the list goes on.

In the pulpits, on Sunday sermons, in black churches, in white churches, in synagogues, and in mosques, and in other temples of faith, they led during the civil rights, talked about it every Sunday, every Saturday, every Friday, whatever your day is. We need a return to that because they're going to need to join and link arms with us as we cross our bridge on the other side of Donald Trump and hold him accountable. The lawyers, I assure you, whether it's the lawyers around Midas Touch, Legal AF, the Norm Isons of the world, and the rest, the public interest groups that we support, like the American Civil Liberties Union, the NAACP, the Southern Poverty Clinic, other organizations just formed in order to protect democracy, the court accountability action. The lawyers know which courts to put it in,

which judges to aim for, which circuit courts to aim for, and how to get to the United States Supreme Court. And they're learning now on the fly on how to shape their arguments before the United States Supreme Court and that bench at the lectern to aim to try to get Amy Coney Barrett and John Roberts more often than not on things that matter.

So I believe in the federal court system. I know people have, they hold it in low regard, understandably so, and they criticize it, understandably so, because of how it was operated under the Department of Justice at Merrick Garland and within the Trump criminal cases. But I have not lost my faith in our civil court system, our federal court system about constitutional issues, not quite yet.

So that's going to happen. And what is our role here? Our role here is to come here to be nourished by our community, to be nourished by our linking arms with people that we can trust on both sides of the glass here, both sides of the microphone. I trust, love, and respect my audience. My audience, I can only hope, do the same towards me and to the Midas Touch contributors. That's all I can ask for. That gets me up in the morning. That gets me motivated like nothing else. And you know, I've got my own world, right? I got my own poppock world. I've got a

beautiful wife. I've got a beautiful daughter. I've got them to protect, promote, encourage, cultivate, help them achieve their highest ideals as human beings and as women, that's my role. That's why I was put on this planet. But here we can get together on the Midas Touch Network and on PO-POK Live every week. And we can not just commiserate, I don't wanna commiserate,

I wanna lean forward, not back, all right? I wanna oppose actively, aggressively. And I'm going to show you the ways to do it. I'm going to tell you how the Democrats and the aggressives can use this information to their advantage to send Donald Trump and everyone around him to a crushing defeat at the midterms. We're two days into the administration. That means there's two days left on the clock. And that's how we have to treat it. That's why I'm glad you're here on PopePak Live. Let's touch on the final story for today. No surprise.

We knew that Pete Hegseth, there have been rumors about sexual abuse, misogyny, about infidelity in his marriage for a long, long time. We knew about an allegation of rape in Washington that he settled with a non-disclosure agreement. We know he's represented by a Trumper in Tim Parlatore, a lawyer. We know that they've been trying to keep away from the Senate all of the women who would come out against Pete Hegseth,

all the ones that as alleged saw him drunk, sometimes in uniform, publicly intoxicated, calling about killing Muslims. These are the allegations. We know that there were going to be people that were going to, as the New York Times did, another reporting did, who were going to testify hopefully about his mismanagement of two veterans' organizations and how he's run out on a rail related to that. Yeah? And now we've got, finally the dam is broken. We finally have the ex-sister-in-law. It's always the ex-sister-in-law, by the way. The ex-sister-in-law came forward and said,

when he was married, he was married three times, he cheated on two of the wives to get to the third. on two of the wives to get to the third, that his Danielle Dietrich Hegseth, that the sister had a safe word, a code word with her sister, the one that submitted the affidavit to Jack Reed on the Armed Services Committee for the Democrats when she was being abused to make sure that she wasn't killed. And she also testified in this sworn affidavit that her sister had a hide in the closet from a violent Pete Hegseth, that she observed him in uniform being publicly intoxicated and being violent.

This is all laid out. Now the question is, can Jack Reed, now having obtained it from somebody who was not that willing to give it, is he gonna be able to use that to get some of these Republicans off the fence and vote against Pete Hegseth, who is wholly unqualified and unfit

for the office to be the chairman of, sorry, to be the Secretary of Defense. Yeah. So we gotta start working hard to take down some of these cabinet nominees. Pam Bondi looks like she's going to slide through. Oh, one note about Pam Bondi, she made over a million dollars lobbying

on behalf of those private prisons entities that I told you about earlier. So I don't know about draining the swamp, but that's how Pam Bondi made her money. So look, she's going to get through, the Treasury Secretary is going to get through, and some others are going to get through. The question is some of the more radical ones, RFK Jr., this guy, Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard and Cash Patel, are they going to get through? Not so sure about that yet. We'll continue to follow it. I'm glad you're here on Popoc

Live. Good news, we're making this into a full podcast. I'm working on, just to clue you in right here, I've got a photo shoot tomorrow to take a photo for the album cover for Popak Live so that we can have it as a full-blown podcast. You'll get it on an audio feed along with these video feeds. And it's all because of you, because we started doing it right after the election and now we're about 10 episodes strong. And this community has told Midas Touch, Michael Popak, keep doing it. We're here for you. We're loving it. We need you. And I believe me, I read all the comments and commentary that comes my way. And it makes me a better content provider, better lawyer, better person because of the things that you talk to me about. And I appreciate that. So until my next Legal AF, which is going to be tomorrow midweek

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