Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Prosecutors Use SEIZED DATA Trump DIDN’T SEE COMING

Episode Date: March 9, 2024

In the Mar a Lago criminal case, the DOJ is ready to use WALT NAUTA’S CELL AND GEO LOCATION TRACKING DATA against him and to plot the movements of all of the classified documents Trump criminally hid. Michael Popok explains how the DOJ will use that data, combined with video footage, to create a timeline and “day in the life” cartoon video of the Mar a Lago indicted co conspirators including Trump, and their movements, during the trial to prove their case of obstruction of justice. Head to https://Rhone.com/LEGALAF and use code LEGALAF to save 20% off your entire order! Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michael Popak, Legal AF, we're getting details now as to the extent of the investigation that the FBI and the Department of Justice led against Walt Nauta, Waltine Nauta, the Butler Bodyman personal assistant for Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago, and particularly how they tracked him, how they tracked through his cell phone data, the movement of boxes within Mar-a-Lago and outside of Mar-a-Lago led by Donald Trump to try to hide the classified documents, national defense information instead of returning them to the National Archive, returning them to the Department of Justice and the rightful owner. The United States, Donald Trump as alleged, the indictment moved through Walton Outa, through Carlos D. Olbiera, his maintenance worker at Mar-a-Lago boxes in and out of locations within Mar-a-Lago to

hide them first from his lawyer, Evan Corcoran, who was his point person in negotiations with the Department of Justice, hiding him from them or hiding them, or hiding those boxes from him, and so that he would not reveal their existence or search them to turn over classified information to the government, and then ultimately hiding them from, trying to hide them from when the search warrant was executed by the FBI.

The key, of course, to destroy Walt Nauta and pin this properly on Donald Trump is if you could locate through data and through surveillance information, the boxes and show their movement and their path looks like the Department of Justice, Special Counsel Jack Smith is prepared to do just that because in a new filing, and there's a series of new filings, you're gonna hear about them all in the Midas Touch Networking on Legal AF.

In a new filing by Jack Smith, he has informed Judge Cannon that there are a number of items that are confidential about how the surveillance of Walt Nauta through the use of his cell phone, which was also picked up in a search warrant and elements of the search warrant that reveal how data was collected, the type of data that was collected to show particularly the movement of Walt Nauta and therefore the movement of boxes in any given time. I'm sure they are developing a timeline

that they're ready to put on for the judge and for the jury that shows in any given moment at any given time as the FBI was arriving, J. Bratt, a lawyer for the Department of Justice was arriving where the boxes were at any given moment. And what happened after Evan Corcoran, the lawyer for Donald Trump, came and went for Mar-a-Lago,

giving Donald Trump time to hide the boxes. Because the information that the special counsel once redacted, the information in particular about Walton Outa, the indicted co-conspirator, includes his cell phone, phone Verizon cell phone data, Google communication data, information from his Apple iCloud from his from his Microsoft, and then the affidavits that support search warrants that were used and executed against Walt Nauta. It's a little known fact that Walt Nauta had his phone and his multiple phones picked up during the investigation,

imaged, analyzed, forensically examined, and they were also able through search warrants on Microsoft and on Google and on Verizon to get this key geolocation data, which as long as Walt now to have the phone in his back pocket or his jacket or wherever he had it, and as the valet body man butler for Donald Trump, he probably was never without his phone. That phone then is a tracker, right?

It's a geo tracker to show at any given moment where he was outside loading boxes into a SUV on its way to Bedminster, New Jersey golf course, for example, the movement of boxes and not just the movement is going to be important here. As a trial lawyer, let me tell you what else is important. Plotting the movement against a graph of time, a timeline to show this is when Evan Corcoran was informed that there was going to be a meeting with Jay Bratt for the Department of Justice, at which he would have to turn over the confidential classified

documents that were in Donald Trump's possession once and for all. And what happened just before that, when Evan Corcoran came and left Mar-a-Lago, and then the movement, tracking the movement of boxes, and look, not every time that Walt Nauta was moving around Mar-a-Lago, or Carlos de Oliveira was, do I think they had a box under their arm? I'm sure they moved around without boxes.

However, if they can also show through the video surveillance equipment, remember Donald Trump had his own video surveillance equipment inside that are now being used against him. That is the recorded video data that Donald Trump in another aspect of the conspiracy at the heart of the indictment wanted Carlos Walt, along with the unindicted co-conspirator, cooperating witness Yacil Tavares, the IT worker, director, wanted him to delete that the boss, Donald Trump, instructed, ordered that the video surveillance equipment out in front of the various doors and locked closets of Mar-a-Lago be deleted. That also combines, you got the video. So here's how I picture the Department of Justice IT group putting together their demonstrative evidence. You got a running video at the top of

movement. You've got dark shadowy people who could easily be identified as that's Walt Nauta, that's Carlos, that's Yuseel, right? In and out of rooms. You've got other people who were cooperating with the Department of Justice as well, like housekeepers, maintenance workers, people that worked in the kitchen because Donald Trump chose to live inside of a hotel instead of in a private residence. Could you imagine if he lived in a private residence and all this happened, of in a private residence. Could you imagine if you lived in a private residence and all this happened, a real true private residence where it was just him and a couple of assistants?

No, it was a full-blown club hotel with tens of thousands of people moving in and out, ballrooms, golf courses, spas, salons, and then a wing of it, sort of like the White the, you know, the, the White House, a wing of private, private residences for Donald Trump. And you got movement, uh, that's showing up on this Verizon cell phone data, this Google geo location data showing at any given moment combined with the videotape, what that would look like. So they'll, they are able to create what we call in the trial business,

a day in the life video, a day in the life of Walt Nauta, plotted against a timeline of relevant dates and times of Donald Trump receiving the subpoena, Donald Trump receiving the demand from the National Archive for the return, Donald Trump receiving the subpoena. Donald Trump is meeting with his lawyers. His lawyers arranging meetings

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because of the recent filings by Jack Smith on the 8th of March on the docket. Now, let me just say this about Aileen Catton. For somebody, a federal judge that likes to talk about, she's all about transparency and the public having the right to know everything about a criminal trial, including witnesses that are kept secret, grand jury witness, likes to talk about. She's all about transparency and the public having the right to know everything

about a criminal trial, including witnesses that are kept secret, grand jury witnesses, for their own protection. She wants to put that on the public docket. She's created her own secret shadow docket, which I've never seen before. She has created her own secret shadow docket, and that makes it difficult, but not impossible for legal political commentators like me to get to the bottom of it. What am I talking about? Normally, almost invariably, in a federal case, criminal or civil, when you have something to say and something to file, you file it on the public docket. We can go look at the electronic public docket and see what's there at any given moment. Some things are redacted, meaning they're blacked out.

Some things are sent in camera to a judge to review before they're being made public. But I've never seen this before. Aileen Cannon instead is requiring the government, and I guess Donald Trump, to send her motions first. So now all you get is a piece of paper on the docket that says motions have been filed, responses have been filed by the government, and they've been sent only to counsel on the other side and the judge.

Until she's ready then, having looked at it because she's the keeper, I guess, the gatekeeper of the docket, which she should not be. And it's creating bad conduct and bad behavior primarily by Donald Trump and how he is now misusing the fact that he knows that things aren't gonna show up on the docket. They're gonna go right to the judge instead first. But we were able to figure out from the docket that they aren't the extent, if you will,

the scope of the work against the surveillance work against Walton-Oda to piece this together. We're at the very end, Department of Justice to be clear. And Jack Smith is ready to go to trial. They're ready to go to trial. They could go to trial tomorrow. The lawyers under Jack Smith that are handling the case,

there's some new lawyers that have been added into the mix. But they're like Jim Pierce, but the lawyers are ready. They could do the opening statement tomorrow in Piccadilly. It is a lean cat in the judge that's delaying things. It is Donald Trump's monkey wrenches that are delaying things, but the government is ready as they usually are. So I am sure this day in the life video that I just talked about videos against timelines against timelines, against surveillance data, against geolocation data has already been prepared. We're finding out about where they are and the extent of their preparation by the filings that are being made now, because we have a lot

of activity, right? There's a lot of action around the Mar-a-Lago case right now, because their motion to dismiss have been filed by Donald Trump responses by Jack Smith. And now we're getting other things that Jack Smith wants to or has to turn over as the government has to turn over certain things in terms of allowing the defendants to have the information to prepare a defense. But he's mindful of making sure that certain things don't

fall into the wrong hands at the right time, like affidavits in support of search warrants that were used against Walt Nauta. I am sure there is an equally invasive, proctologist style investigation of Carlos de Oviara as well, the maintenance worker. And they're able to plot that. And that will then be the X and Y axis that will be used in the day of the life video.

I'm sure they're going to have, I am no doubt they're going to make a cartoon. I mean, it'll be like a realistic cartoon, you know, of, you know of this moment in time, in this moment in time, in this moment in time, almost like a video surveillance, but in a cartoon format so that the jury gets a handle on it. I've used that kind of illustrative evidence in my trials, and I'm sure they're going to do it here. And then the side box will be the real video data running along the side of the surveillance cameras against the plot line of the cellphone tower data all put in a package with a ribbon around it for the jury.

We'll continue to follow the scope, the breadth, the depth of the investigation against Donald Trump, the amount of evidence that is mounted in a raid against him. If we ever can get this trial off the ground in the moral logo obstruction and espionage case. One place might as touch on legal AF, this is the legal AF hot take. And we do it on Wednesdays and Saturdays at 8 p.m. Eastern time on this YouTube channel.

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