Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Rudy Gets FINAL BLOW to Career HE FEARED MOST

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

Two-time criminally indicted, election-denying MAGA Trump super lawyer, Rudy Giuliani has just lost his last remaining bar license and can no longer call himself a lawyer. Michael Popok reports on the... DC Court of Appeal ruling unanimously to disbar Rudy permanently from the practice of law following on the heels of him losing his NY law license. Head to https://Rhone.com/LEGALAF and use code LEGALAF to save 20% off your entire order! Subscribe: @LegalAFMTN Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Join the Legal AF Patreon: https://Patreon.com/LegalAF Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:03 That's how many places that Rudy Giuliani, election denier, coup plotter, MAGA super lawyer for Donald Trump, that's how many places he can now practice law. For a person who's been indicted in a couple of places, Georgia and Arizona, the first two that come to mind, and almost indicted in the DC election interference case, this was a long time in coming.
Starting point is 00:02:26 This was the guy that according to insiders for Donald Trump in the White House counsel's office, he was the captain of Team Crazy, that's their words not mine, during Jan 6th and the lead up to Jan 6th. He led the charge with the other lawyers, now also mainly disbarred, disgraced, convicted, and now are facing bar charges like Ken Chesbrough,
Starting point is 00:02:54 Sidney Powell, Jenna Ellis, and the list goes on. Anyone that worked with Donald Trump to try to overturn the will of the people and disenfranchise America have really suffered greatly, including losing their bar license. It's gotten so bad that a leading progressive democratic organization has run an ad in leading magazines warning lawyers and members of the bar not to sacrifice their bar license in order to promote false election denying theories in court.
Starting point is 00:03:31 See Trump, don't be like these people is sort of the ad with a most wanted led by Rudy Giuliani, who led the 60 cases that lost in courts of law all over America. You think Alina Jaba was a terrible lawyer for Donald Trump? Rudy Giuliani's following right behind, but I guess the bars have put Rudy Giuliani and America out of their misery. He could no longer hold himself out to be a bar member.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Now, I've been a bar member in New York for over 32 years. Rudy Giuliani, over 50 years, I think it's 55 years he was a member of the bar and now it's no longer. In New York, he really sort of didn't participate in the New York proceeding. And the reason that the New York proceeding is so important is because the DC bar and the DC court of appeals, the District of Columbia Court of Appeals, which makes the final ruling,
Starting point is 00:04:23 which we're gonna put up on the screen and we're gonna read to you in a minute. They based their decision on Rudy Giuliani's really lack of participation, failure to participate, default, if you will, in the DC proceeding and the fact that he was already disbarred in New York. See, when you're a bar member in multiple states like mine, it can have a cascading effect
Starting point is 00:04:44 if you get disbarred in one state. You have to report it to the bar regulators in the other state that you're not yet disbarred, and then they take up the cause and open an investigation and decide whether you violated the ethics and the ethics code of that state. I mean, every state bar has an ethics code. We call it the Rules of Professional Responsibility or Conduct. They're almost identical. The ABA, the American Bar Association, has a model version of it, has an ethics code. We call it the rules of professional responsibility or conduct. They're almost identical. The ABA, the American Bar Association, has a model version of it,
Starting point is 00:05:09 and the other states have adopted versions of it. And it's broken into chapters and ethics rules. A candor to the tribunal. Tell the truth, be honest to the judges. Candor to your client. Don't lie to your client. Or steal money from your client. Candor your opposing counsel. There's things you can and can't do in negotiating or discussing things with your opposing counsel.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Confidentiality, things like that. You are an officer of the court as well when you sign pleadings, when you sign motions and you're subject to the rules of that court, federal and state rules as well. That can be violated. There are many ways a lawyer can get his ticket pulled. Rudy Giuliani just found out too. He lost his bar license in New York. Washington, DC picked up the cause and opened up a file. It's investigated by the local bar. This is the way it works procedurally. The local bar in DC opens it up the grievance committee There's an investigation. There's a prosecutor if you will for the bar committee and the defendant
Starting point is 00:06:11 Which is the license holder at the time to Rudy Giuliani has the ability in due process to make a case He hired a lawyer. He barely participated. He missed a lot of deadlines This sounds like the Rudy Giuliani that we know. He failed to really defend himself in any way. And so the new ruling that just came out by the District of Columbia Court of Appeals, because once the bar makes its recommendation, then it goes to a set of real judges. The real judges here are the ones in the territory of the District of Columbia, not federal judges, but judges that sit on the DC Court of Appeals. It's the highest court in the territory, if you will, of the District of Columbia. And our three-judge panel took a look at what the New York court system ruled about Rudy Giuliani. They want to give it what's called reciprocity, meaning
Starting point is 00:07:01 you did it, you're a sister state, he doesn't really have a defense here either. And it all stems from Rudy Giuliani's outrageous conduct, unethical conduct in pushing a false voter fraud narrative in the court system, clogging the court system with filings that claim that dead people voted when they didn't, that there was outcome-determinative fraud in the 2020 election when there wasn't, that there was fraud in Arizona, that there was overvoting, that there was, you know, when he went off and attacked, for instance, Ruby Freeman and Shea Moss, those two poor election workers just doing their civic duty in Fulton
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Starting point is 00:09:54 I mean, these are the arguments. This is why Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss got $148 million judgment against Rudy Giuliani for them being defamed and doxxed harassed, emotionally violated by Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani. And Rudy Giuliani missed deadlines and was in contempt of court in that federal court. And he got hit with $148 million judgment by a jury and then tried to go bankrupt to avoid it and then the bankruptcy judge, this is a long tale, the bankruptcy judge threw out the bankruptcy and he's now got
Starting point is 00:10:30 to pay the $148 million liquidate and sell his apartment in New York, his apartment, oh poor Rudy Giuliani, his apartment in Palm Beach County, Florida, he's got to give the keys to his Mercedes over to Ruby Freeman and Chez Moss, yay. And his Yankee memorabilia and his World Series rings and all this stuff he accumulated as mayor and $5,000 in his bank account, the suit off his back and the cigar humidor, you know, all that. Now he's gonna have to raise money to continue to pay off the $148 million
Starting point is 00:10:59 as an 80 year old, twice disbarred, non-lawyer. That's what bars call people who are no longer lawyers, non-lawyers. Meaning he can't take a fee to be a lawyer anymore. He can't provide services as a lawyer. Sure, he can have that ratty podcast that he has, you know, America's Mayor. America's Mayor is now disbarred twice. That should be the new tagline for his podcast. You know, he'll rail against it and he'll make, you'll make $2,000 today, sucker's bet of people that feel sorry for him at this point in his life.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Donald Trump supposedly owes him a lot of $20 million in fees that he's going after. He had a case, Rudy Giuliani, the last two weeks where he got dismissed because he tried to sue President Joe Biden in New Hampshire because President Joe Biden rightly called him Rudy Giuliani in the last two weeks where he got dismissed because he tried to sue President Joe Biden in New Hampshire because President Joe Biden rightly called him somebody that was working for the Russians or the Ukrainians at the wrong time. And so that defamation suit got dismissed.
Starting point is 00:11:58 You got the front page of the New York Times a year ago that detailed Rudy Giuliani's alcoholism and how he basically can barely function because of his drinking problem. And this is not a good set of, we're watching, not even, it's not fast enough, the disappearance of Rudy Giuliani for the national stage. And he's this close to going to jail, but he gets convicted in Arizona and or in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:12:23 And now he's gonna go in without being a member of the bar and have to make money some other way. So let me just read to you, so on the end of this hot take, let me just read to you what the new order says. It's short. It mainly says that the New York bar disbarred Rudy Giuliani and we're going to give reciprocity to that and Rudy Giuliani didn't properly defend himself in this courthouse to make us change our mind. Three-judge panel, associate judges McLeese and Deal, senior judge Washington in the matter of in Ray Rudolph W. Giuliani, a suspended member of the bar of the District of Columbia Court of Appeals. Order September 26, 2024, on consideration of the certified order from the state of New York, disbarring respondent from the practice of law.
Starting point is 00:13:19 This court's July 25, 2024 order, maintaining respondent suspension pending final disposition of this proceeding and directing him to show cause why reciprocal discipline, meaning New York did it, why shouldn't we do it, should not be imposed. And his response, it is now ordered that Rudy Giuliani is hereby disbarred, mainly because he didn't respond to the court's inquiry, is hereby disbarred from the practice of law in the District of Columbia, nonc protunque, to August 9th, 2021. Nonc protunque is a Latin way of saying we're going to take the time machine back and we're going to set it back that you have not been allowed to practice law, you've been suspended since August 9th, 2021. Disbarred.
Starting point is 00:14:03 That's the date that'll be running. Woe be him if he took in any attorney's fees since August 9th, 2021 for doing DC legal work. We'll have to follow that story. And that's it. Procuria means it's majority, all three, not signed by any one of them. And that's it for Rudy Giuliani. We'll continue to follow it all on the Midas Touch Network, on Legal AF at the intersection of law and politics every Wednesday and Saturday, our full-length podcast, and you can watch us live record there, or on audio podcast platforms of your choice. And I got some great news if you're loving the legal and political stuff. After four and a half years, we just founded our new, in collaboration with Midas Touch Network, Legal AF
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