Legal AF by MeidasTouch - SURPRISE INDICTMENT of Trump Scheme in WISCONSIN Announced

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

In breaking news, the Wisconsin Attorney General has indicted for forgery, former Trump attorneys Ken Chesebro and Jim Troupis, and the head of Trump’s Election Day ground game, Mike Roman arising out of their leadership roles with Trump in the fake elector scheme. Michael Popok breaks it all down on his latest hot take Keep American farming going by signing up at https://MoinkBox.com/LEGALAF RIGHT NOW and listeners of this show get FREE BACON for a YEAR! Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/legalaf Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So Michael Popak with some breaking news coming out of Wisconsin, the attorney general there, Josh Call, following on the heels of Chris Mays, the attorney general of Arizona, has indicted two former Trump attorneys and one former Trump aide head of his election day coordination campaign. We have the indictment of Ken Chesbrough, James Troupis, those are the lawyers, and

Mike Roman again has been indicted. Many of these men, all of these men, have been indicted in other states as well or are the subject of criminal prosecution. I'm gonna walk you through it now. Their arraignment is going to be in September. They've each been charged, according to the Wisconsin Attorney General's office, they've each been charged with one count of forgery, which goes right to the heart of the fake elector scheme that was devised by Ken Chesborough,

along with Jim Trupas. Those two gentlemen attended a meeting, as we know, in the White House with Donald Trump, which was arranged by Reince Priebus, who at the time also from Wisconsin, was the chief of staff and got the meeting with them, in which this whole fake elector plot and Jan 6th was hatched along with Donald Trump.

Mike Roman, let's start with him. Mike Roman was the head of Donald Trump's election day ground game. And he was responsible, he was the mule for the fake elector certificates, making sure that in the seven battleground states, including here Wisconsin and Arizona and Michigan and Nevada and others, that these fake electors met

in secret, that they signed their name. Here's the receipts. They signed their name to the conspiracy, creating themselves as fake electors and then made sure that those fake elector certificates or copies of the fake elector certificates in some cases were somehow wound their way through into Washington DC to get into the hands of Mike Pence in order to try to stop the peaceful

transfer of power by having Mike Pence as part of that plot recognize the fake electors, throw his hands up, refuse to count and certify and turn it over to the state delegations which would have turned the election over to Donald Trump and away from Joe Biden. That was the plan. Ken Chesbrough, an election lawyer. Mike Roman, election day coordinator, mule for all of these fake election certificates and coordinating it. Mike Roman, you may recall, has been indicted in Georgia. He's the one who brought the initial motion to disqualify that was unsuccessful against Fonny Willis. And he's still, there's not been a trial setting there yet. All of his other attempts to dismiss the case against

him have failed and he will go to trial in Georgia as well. Mike Roman, also one of 18 indicted in Arizona by the attorney general there. We said when Ben Mycelis and I did our hot take a month ago, and we said that the first but not the last attorney general and the one that would be used as the template was Chris Mays breaking that glass ceiling and bringing the charges against not only the fake electors in Arizona, but against Rudy Giuliani and Christina Bob and Chespero, Trupus, Roman and the rest. The only one that wasn't indicted

and is an unindicted co-conspirator was Donald J. Trump for obvious reasons. That she didn't wanna throw a monkey wrench into her case that was so strong against these others by injecting Donald Trump into the mix at that particular moment. Now, Josh Call, the attorney general for Wisconsin has taken a little bit of flack. There was a lot of action around the fake electors when a civil lawsuit over a year ago was filed in Wisconsin, not by the attorney general, but by voter rights groups and other civil liberties groups against the fake electors

and against Trupus and Chespero. And they settled that case. Trupus and Chespero and the fake electors promised under oath that they would never try to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power again. They'd never be involved with any kind of electors or fake electors ever again. What if you could support small family farmers and reduce your environmental imprint all while enjoying the highest quality meat on earth? When you join the monk movement, you can. Moink delivers grass-fed and grass-finished beef and lamb,

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legal AF. That's moinkbox.com slash legal AF. Now a lot of people thought, well, maybe that took the pressure off of Josh Call, the attorney general, who didn't seem to be doing much in terms of his own independent investigation. It was really laying back, letting the feds do their thing. But once the federal indictment came out by the special prosecutor, special counsel, it was clear that even though Wisconsin was mentioned, just as it was mentioned in the Georgia indictment, that the feds were not going to go after the fake electors in Wisconsin. So there was the civil suit settlement payment of some dollars and these representations by these very, at least two of the three,

Chesbro and Trupus. But there was no prosecution. Now that's been fixed. We've got the indictment. We've got the arraignment. There's going to be a press conference. We'll report on it live here on the Midas Touch Network, likely later today.

But I wanted to bring you this kind of fast-moving story and this news right now. Now, Jim Trupis, just to bring it together, was one of the lawyers working with Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani and Christina Bob and Ken Chesbrough to litigate falsely, as it turns out, in all the battleground states and 50 other places to try to stop the peaceful transfer of power. He was one of the arms of the fake elector scheme and also helped execute on the fake elector scheme. And again, he has a meeting,

a very pivotal historic meeting now for all the wrong reasons in the White House with Donald Trump, right? Before Jan 6, it's Trupus, Chespero, and Donald Trump, a meeting arranged, as I said before, by Rance Priebus from Wisconsin also who got these guys in the room. And that's where Chespero tells Donald Trump, Jan 6 is your final day and talks about the elector, the elector schemes and the potential, potentiality of the lawsuits. That's why Trupus has now been indicted related to the fake elector scheme. One count forgery, it's a felony

in Wisconsin, arraignment is going to be in September, and I'm sure with the pressure that's on the attorney general in Wisconsin, that there's going to be more indictments to come. For instance, what about the other 10 fake electors in Wisconsin? Why have they not been prosecuted? It had looked for a long time, the attorney general was letting the civil lawsuits do their job, but now those are over. Time to go after the fake electors, just as the Arizona attorney general has done in her charging 18 people, including many of these same three in her case, will continue to follow how the attorney generals around the country are responding to Jan 6th and the fake electors to

protect the integrity of their election process state by state right here on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF. We bring it to you on a podcast we call Legal AF, we call it for a reason. It's on Wednesdays and Saturdays at 8 p.m call Legal AF. We call it for a reason. It's on Wednesdays and Saturdays at 8 p.m. Eastern time. And then we do live versions of anything that's happening and breaking at the intersection of law and politics. And we do it right here. The attorney generals should not be forgotten. They're an important part of our criminal justice system. They have different powers, of course, depending upon what their state legislatures have given them in terms of powers, what their constitutions have given them in terms of powers.

Some of them have a lot of criminal powers and can indict when things like election law is at risk or election process integrity is being undermined. Other attorney generals like the one in New York, Letitia James, by her Constitution frankly can only really focus on civil enforcement matters, could be substantial like the four hundred and sixty five million dollar civil fraud judgment against Donald Trump. They can regulate civilly and for major disgorgement and fines and penalties and damages, but she has very limited criminal prosecution powers that's

really given to the local district attorneys in a state like New York. But anyway, a little bit of a teachable moment here about how the attorney general process works in the United States, state by state. We'll bring it all to you until my next hot take like this one, until my next Legal AF. This is Michael Popak reporting. Heary, heary, Legal AF Law Breakdown is now in session. Go beyond the headlines and get a deep dive into the important legal concepts you need to know and we discuss every day on Legal AF.

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