Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump Capitulates to Pressure…Things Instantly Get Worse

Episode Date: June 14, 2026

Trump folded on nominating neophyte Bill Pulte to be the head of national intelligence, but has made matters worse by naming a golf buddy who was the former head of his criminal defense appeal law fir...m, with 0 Intelligence Community experience, to be the Nation’s spymaster to keep us safe. Popok knows a thing or two about the nominee Jay Clayton and lets it fly as to how Trump has gambled again with the Nation’s security, in his new hot take. Americans United: If you want to help, head to https://AU.org/LEGALAF to learn more about their work and how you can get involved. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show The Ken Harbaugh Show: https://meidasnews.com/tag/the-ken-harbaugh-show Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Seriously, why aren't Democrats in Washington doing more to stop Trump? I know. Have you heard about Phil Weiser and Colorado, though? No. Is he different? Yeah, A.G. Weiser sued the Trump administration 65 times. He's beating Trump in court again and again. Things like protecting Obamacare against Trump's illegal tariffs, and he even won against Ticketmaster. So he actually gets results. Exactly. As governor, Phil will fight for Colorado.
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Starting point is 00:02:18 So he actually gets results. Exactly. As governor, Phil will fight for Colorado. Paid for Phil Weiser for Colorado registered agent in the end in Nostkese. Well, we can stop the head scratching as to why J. Clayton, the golf buddy and crony of Donald Trump and currently the Southern District of New York, U.S. attorney, why he went on CNBC in the last couple of days bashing California at its vote. It's because he's the new nominee to be the Director of National Intelligence. I'm going to talk to you about a close relationship between Donald Trump, Jay Clayton, and Howard Lutnik, and the Sullivan and Cromwell firm that Jay Clayton used to work for that Donald Trump now uses for his personal attorneys,
Starting point is 00:02:59 as does other people in his life like Melania. I'm Michael Popock. You're on the Midas Touch Network for just this kind of commentary and reporting. Take a minute. Hit the free subscribe button on Legal AF YouTube channel. Let's talk about Jay Clayton. When the Department of Justice under Todd Blanche and Pam Bondi and Emil Bovi made a mess of the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern District of New York,
Starting point is 00:03:25 when they tried to dismiss the indictment of the mayor for bribery, then Mayor Adams and nine or ten prosecutors, including the lead prosecutors, all quit the office. They needed somebody to clean it up, to give an imprimatur of legitimacy, to at least in Donald Trump's own backyard of New York, have somebody that he could rely on. Of course, also somebody that wouldn't prosecute anybody in the Trump family. And who comes to the rescue? Send in Jay Clayton. Who's Jay Clayton? Jay Clayton is a non-litigator, commercial lawyer who used to work at a firm called Sullivan and Cromwell, very well-known white shoe firm. It was a competitor of one of the firms that I used to work for in New York. I know him well, and I know Jay reasonably well from, I don't want to say directly, but at least from my prior life. Jay Clayton is a golf buddy of Donald Trump and Howard Lutnik. His dream job was not to be the director of National Intelligence. or to be the U.S. attorney in New York, his dream job he had in the first Trump administration
Starting point is 00:04:33 to be the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission. That sort of fits with his body of work, his education, being a securities and corporate lawyer. He turned down the job to be the attorney general in the first Trump administration because he didn't want the gig. He's really not that qualified for it either. Jay Clayton, however, looks like he came from Central Casting. He's got the hair. He's got the suit and the tie.
Starting point is 00:05:00 He's got the voice. And he's frankly a political hack that will do anything Donald Trump tells him to do. There's no other way to put it out there. But that is the truth. He's a golf buddy of Howard Lutnik and people within his company. And has been in the good graces of that small little group that went to the White House together. So when he came out of sort of retirement and took over the Southern District of New York office, around the time that Donald Trump installed Janine Piro, another political enabler for
Starting point is 00:05:28 him in D.C., people were not that surprised. In fact, they talked about putting Jay Clayton in as the U.S. attorney in the first term. He was blocked effectively by the, when Mr. Berman was the U.S. attorney in New York, he wouldn't turn over his files and depart unless it wasn't Jay Clayton, because he was afraid Jay Clayton was going to end up dismissing all of his cases. So we had that going on. That was all already back in the first term. Now you've got Jay Clayton, and no surprise here to anybody that knows
Starting point is 00:06:06 Jay well, goes on CNBC recently and does this. Play the clip. Give me an idea of what's happening in California right now. No, I actually can't, which I think is the problem. You know, you
Starting point is 00:06:22 raise this about election integrity, which I think is the point. That's what I'm talking. I'm watching it, Are any of the things we're hearing about, like, thousands of votes all for the same person? Is any of that true, or is that just this sort of conspiracy, like, 100% for the socialist candidate versus the others? Is any of that true? Look, we had a problem, a deep problem with voting in America. We had race-based discrimination around voting.
Starting point is 00:06:55 It was identified. We had the Voting Rights Act. It was all about access, making sure that people were not denied access. There was a second element to it, which was election integrity, making sure that once everybody has access, that their vote actually counts, that it's not being diluted by illegal voting or shenanigans and the like. I think we've done a pretty darn good job on access. I don't hear anybody claiming that they don't have access to the ballot box. You hear politicians saying that it's Jim Craig disenfranchised? But no evidence, right?
Starting point is 00:07:33 We have groups dedicated to making sure that people have access. Tons of money dedicated to it. You know, laws and laws that my office enforces, other offices enforced, to make sure that people, on the integrity side, we're doing an absolutely terrible job. And the American people are right to question it. How come we can have an audit trail in every other aspect of our lives that's in.
Starting point is 00:07:57 important. People cite getting on, you know, planes and the like and things, but, you know, in every time... Here's the issue. California's election law allows ballots for support by election day to be counted and permit same-day registration. That means tabulation typically continues for weeks after. You go 30 days, isn't it? But why is that law? I get you. I mean, that doesn't sound like fraud. You can argue whether the law makes sense, but that doesn't sound like a fraudulent situation. No, there's a great, there's a great phrase, opportunity for fraud, right? One of the things you do in designing laws is reduce the opportunity for fraud without, in this case, reduce the opportunity for fraud while not adversely impacting access. And every time it happens,
Starting point is 00:08:43 it's like, okay, all these are coming in for the next 30 days. Oh, Democrats vote that way. So it just makes sense that it's a hundred percent Democrat. That's where the opportunity comes from. So yeah, you can hear but why is it always go that way with the mail-in votes why is it always 100% democrats are voting in the in the mail-in or why can't you why can't you count them like they do in other jurisdictions on the same day as election day or within a very reasonable if you mail them in on election day they're not going to be there on election day well i mean i i got stuff returned to me that i sent out for christmas by two months later that's coming back yeah that why we why we wait until election day for mail-in ballots, I don't.
Starting point is 00:09:25 But those are questions with the law. And it doesn't suggest that there's necessarily fraud here. There's, you can have cause for an investigation. But the governor's office, the vote totals that come in and suggest. Becky, I completely agree with you. It's what it does. Nothing. There's not fraud.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I'm just saying there's not necessarily fraud there. And what it is is it makes the opportunity for fraud so much greater when that is not necessary. It is not. And people were like, why, what is he doing? In fact, just last night. I was on the air on the midweek edition of Legal A.F. With Mark Elias, the world-class voting rights constitutional litigator,
Starting point is 00:10:03 and we talked about Jake Clayton as if we knew something. And here's a clip. The most shameful thing is what the hell is Clayton, the U.S. attorney in the Southern District of York? He was on CNBC saying, yeah, he has concerns. I'm thinking, don't you have enough bank fraud? Don't you have enough crypto schemes of the Trump family going on for you to be paying attention to what?
Starting point is 00:10:23 the hell are you opining about California? Well, let me use my prior life. Jake Clayton was a notorious golf buddy of Donald Trump and Howard Lutnik back in the day. The reason that Jay Clayton became the head of the SEC is because Howard Lutnik wanted him to be the head of the SEC. He really, they first wanted him to be Attorney General in the first administration. He didn't want it. He wanted SEC.
Starting point is 00:10:50 This time around, he didn't want to be in the government at all. But when they left the U.S. attorney, the once proud U.S. Attorney's Office of Manhattan in Shambles, after the Mayor Adams indictment and Amyl Boevee, they needed some adult. And he looks like he's from central casting, right? He does. He does. Got the suits, got the voice. But he's a political hack. And he got he, they pushed a button like they do with Janine Piro. He just comes off less greasy. And he pushed a button and said, Jay, you got to go on CNBC. You got a shit all over California now. Well, okay. So that's it. It's, it. A big law guy from New York or where is it? Yeah, he was a big law guy from New York. And he's not suited for, I think, Berman when he wouldn't leave the office, said out loud, I'm not going, right,
Starting point is 00:11:33 I'm not going to leave the office until I don't want, no, Jake Clayton, no, he has no experience. He'll dismiss all of my, all of my criminal cases. And he doesn't, this is, he's a reluctant war, happy warrior. He doesn't really want the job and they shove him out to do it. But he does it. I'm not making any excuses for Jay Clayton whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And to Mark's point, for those that want to go to see the editorial board today, California's excuses are damaging faith in government. We have an important message to share from our friends that Americans United for separation of church and state. The Trump administration's excessive Christian nationalist rhetoric is only building as we move toward the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. A.U. is highlighting a case involving federal workers,
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Starting point is 00:13:01 not attend Brooke Rollins's Sunday service. The Constitution draws a bright line between personal faith and government power, and this lawsuit says she trampled right over it. Well, the hits keep on coming from this administration, and Americans United is doing their best to keep up the fight against Christian National. If you want to help, head to A.U.org slash legal a.F to learn more about their work and how you can get involved. Americans United supporting everyone's right to live as they choose so long as they don't harm others. That's AU.org slash legal AF.
Starting point is 00:13:42 So now Donald Trump has a friend, a golf buddy, somebody he can rely on. You know, he counts loyalty among all other qualities to run the 17 Asian Directorate for National Intelligence. Let's just repeat this. He has no national intelligence background. The law that created the office of national intelligence requires that the person have national intelligence, intelligence community background.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Jay Clayton does not. So Trump's going to have to try to convince the Senate and the House to amend it to allow him to take the job, even though he doesn't fit the criteria. Putting aside his security clearances, which that he could probably get, this will appease the Amaga, who have been even opposing Bill Pulte
Starting point is 00:14:37 to be the acting part-time head of the intelligence directorate. This is also another example of Trump chickening out because he announced he wanted to use Bill Pulte, the Nepo baby heir to the Pulte construction fortune in the south. They build homes. Who's currently in the Freddie May and Fannie Mac head for mortgages. And when everybody freaked out because he's a political hack that's been attacking Donald Trump's political enemies from day one. God forbid he gets all the toys of the intelligence
Starting point is 00:15:13 community, including wiretapping to go after Donald Trump's enemies. Trump even recoiled from the Pulte nomination. He's part-time. And he'll all over. He'll always. be firing people. That's what he'll be doing for the next 120 days. But even that was met with a block yesterday by the House, even Mike Johnson led House, to block
Starting point is 00:15:35 the reaffirmation, the reauthorization of wiretapping and other surveillance laws that would have endured to the benefit of somebody like Bill Pulte. Now Trump thinks if we put Jay Clayton in, he's already been not confirmed, not
Starting point is 00:15:53 confirmed to be a U.S. attorney, but that he's been confirmed in the past. He thinks he's got the votes to slide in Jay Clayton, a loyalist golf buddy, to be the head of these 17 intelligence agencies for which he is woefully underqualified. But Trump doesn't trust the intelligence community, doesn't like the intelligence community, thinks that they've been spying on him and leaking about him from the very beginning. That's why he's gone after elements of the invest, the, the, uh, intelligence community like John O' Brennan, the former CIA director under Obama or former FBI director under Donald Trump, James Comey, and others. And so, with Clayton now running the show, replacing Tulsi Gabbard effectively, and John Rackcliffe, the head of the CIA reporting to him,
Starting point is 00:16:46 Trump sort of has defanged the office. He hasn't put it out of its misery. He hasn't fired it. He hasn't defunded it, but Jay Clayton is not going to be a tenacious operator and spy master for the United States. You can say a lot of things about Jay Clayton, okay? But one of them is not the nation's spy master, okay? It just shows you that Trump doesn't care about our national security. All he cares about is loyalty. He'll undermine it. There were dozens of people who, who, by, from a bipartisan and support would have been great national security or national intelligence directors. And Jay Clayton would not be on anybody's list, not even the second page for that role. So we are less secure by that announcement.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Here's what Donald Trump had to say about it because, you know, he thinks by social media, he's going to convince his MAGA and others about it. So he posts the following. I am pleased to announce the nomination of a very highly respected Jay Clayton, former chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, the former head of Sullivan and Cromwell, one of the most prominent, successful law firms any in the world, right, that represent Donald Trump in all of his criminal matters currently,
Starting point is 00:18:09 and the current U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, well, not confirmed, to be the next director of national intelligence and a member of my cabinet. Few people anywhere are as respected at the level of Jay. I encourage the United States Senate to confirm Jay as soon as possible. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President Donald J. Trump. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:31 We'll continue to follow it. You've got my view, my insider view of Jay Clayton, and why he was picked here on Legal AF and on the Midas Touch Network. Until my next report, this is Michael Popa. Can't get your fill of LegalAF. Me neither. That's why we formed the LegalAF substack. Every time we mention something in a hot take, whether it's a court filing or a oral
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Starting point is 00:19:35 Things like protecting Obamacare against Trump's illegal tariffs, and he even won against Ticketmaster. So he actually gets results. Exactly. As governor, Phil will fight for Colorado. Paid for by Phil Weiser for Colorado registered agent in Nand and Nostasy.

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