Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump Defense IN TOTAL CHAOS as Co-Defendant Pulls PATHETIC STUNT

Episode Date: September 5, 2023

Georgia Indicted co-conspirator Jeff Clark who tried to weaponize the DOJ and interfere with vote counting in the battleground states, has just told the state court judge that the entire case and all 19 co conspirators should be tried in federal not state court. Michael Popok of Legal AF smells a rat and explains why. Go to https://neurohacker.com/LEGAL for up to 50% off Qualia Senolytic and as a listener of LEGAL AF use code LEGAL at checkout for an extra 15% off your first purchase! Remember to subscribe to ALL the Meidas Media Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://pod.link/1510240831 Legal AF: https://pod.link/1580828595 The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://pod.link/1595408601 The Influence Continuum: https://pod.link/1603773245 Kremlin File: https://pod.link/1575837599 Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://pod.link/1530639447 The Weekend Show: https://pod.link/1612691018 The Tony Michaels Podcast: https://pod.link/1561049560 American Psyop: https://pod.link/1652143101 Burn the Boats: https://pod.link/1485464343 Majority 54: https://pod.link/1309354521 Political Beatdown: https://pod.link/1669634407 Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://pod.link/1676844320 MAGA Uncovered: https://pod.link/1690214260 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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environmental lawyer who tried to overthrow democracy by weaponizing the Department of Justice, his motion that looks on its face to be a motion for extension of time to do something buried within it is what he's really trying to do. He's arguing to the state court judge that ultimately he will win, Clark in a motion that he's filed in federal court not only to bring the case against him to federal court. Okay. In the in the Rico racketeering conspiracy case involving Donald Trump, but that because there is any one federal officer that may be involved that has federal defenses and was

operating within the color of his federal or her federal office. The whole case all 19 have to be tried across the street in the federal courthouse, not in the state courthouse. So if Jeff Clark has his way, then Judge Mack, if he won't be presiding over anything, it'll be Judge Jones and Obama appointee over in federal court. Now let me just answer a question right up front as to why they're doing this. And then we'll talk about what happens next. The ones that want to get to federal court mark meadows, maybe Rudy Giuliani, certainly Jeff Clark, probably Donald Trump. They want to get over there because they think a first steam roller fawny willis and the Georgia

process is moving at such a high velocity. And a rocket docket they want to slow things down. Georgia law moves criminal cases very quickly and they don't care whether you were the former president or former member of the Department of Justice or anything else. As you can see you're gonna move quickly through the meat grinder and then I like that. They want to slow it down and get over to federal court which what they think will be a slower process. That's one, two, they want to slow it down and get over to federal court, which what they think will be a slower process That's one two they want to get on a fast track to a federal appellate system 11 circuit court of appeals in Atlanta which they have an automatic right to go to if they lose on the issue of taking the case the federal court

Which gets decided at first instinct by judge Jones and then a fast track to the US Supreme Court Plus that if they have to try the case, they wanna try it over at federal court, federal precedent and all of that in a federal jury pool, which is slightly broader than the one in Fulton County, Atlanta. That's the reason they wanna go over there.

You'd think they wanna stay in state court, because they got a judge that on paper looks perfect for them. 34 years old, not experienced federalist society. Who does that sound like? Judge Cannon, down in Florida, but for whatever reason, Judge McAfee doesn't seem to be striking them the same

and they wanna get over to federal court. Barried in Jeff Clark's papers, on page three, I mean of a eight page paper, he's saying, I don't, I just don't want an extension judge. I'm going to win, he says, my attempt to remove the case from state to federal court and If any aspect under 11th Circuit precedent any aspect of the case has a federal officer federal defense involved then the entire case so the argument goes all 19 get to go to federal court First of all, I'm not sure he's right about that when it comes to a sprawling 19 person conspiracy

under the state's Rico statue. He might be able to get his case tried alone in federal court, but I don't think that necessarily drags, or that he has long coattails to take everybody with him. But it is an indication to me for the first time that the defenses, the defense lawyers, all 19 of them are now starting to cooperate. In the beginning, I thought, especially with arrest and arrangement and all that, that there was a lack of cooperation among the lawyers.

Now, I'm starting to see, it's like artificial intelligence. They're starting to learn from their mistakes, and I think they're talking more. And I think this is not just a motion brought or attempt brought by Clark alone, but I think they're talking more. And I think this is not just a motion brought or attempt brought by Clark alone, but I think Donald Trump is watching and knows what's going on as is his lawyer. So that's one. The other aspect that people always ask and I want to get it straight here on this hot take is that even if it goes to federal court to try, it doesn't convert the case through a fit of a feat of alchemy into a federal crimes case to allow for a presidential pardon in the future. Presidents can only pardon federal crimes. This is still a state case, a state crime case, a state indictment, a state prosecutor, everything stays the same, except the judge presiding in the jury pool and the appeal process. Okay, that's it.

It matters, apparently, to some of these co-defendants, but they're like crabs in a bucket and they're all going in every which way. Someone to run off the federal court and take the whole case with them. Someone to go to federal court and just take their case with them. Someone to stay in Fulton County, Georgia, with Judge McAfee, but they want to do it really fast. And the judge says, fine, about in October, which is now where Ken Chessbro and Sydney Powell's trawler set.

Other just saying, no, we don't want to go really fast. We'll stay in stay court, but slow it down, judge. So they're all over the place pushing and pulling. The judge is called for a hearing tomorrow where he's going to look the prosecutor, Fawn he will, his team and the eye, along with all the other lawyers present and ask her what she legitimately reasonably believes is the amount of time necessary to try a 19 person criminal rico case, and how many witnesses is she going to put on? My gut is we're going to hear numbers like 8 to 10 weeks for the trial in total, and somewhere

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on your terms. That's where we are. Now, see if you just rely on the docket entries, oh, Jeff Clark filed a motion for extension of time. You'd miss the headline. The lead is buried and the lead that's buried is he's trying to drag the entire case with 19 people over to federal court. And now it's up to Stephen Jones federal judge northern district Obama appointee as the last firewall. But before he gets there, Jeff Clark's going to have to ultimately make

a decision about whether he's going to take the stand to try to get this procedural thing to happen in his favor. He's going to have to wave to fit the amendment, get on the stand and let Fawni Willis do what she just did to Mark Meadows, the former chief of staff for Donald Trump, improving that he perjured himself. Mark Meadows perj former chief of Stafford Donald Trump, improving that he purgean himself. Mark Meadows purgean himself because he said on the stand having waves has fit the amendment right to try to keep the case in federal court. That he had no role in the organization of the fake electors, in coordinating the fake electors when email after text after email set the opposite. In fact, it's it's right there on several pages of the Gen 6 special select committee report

about Jeff Clark and the very email that Fannie Willis used against him to cross examine him and prove that he'd purge it himself. And yes, purge is another type of crime that can be prosecuted by the federal Department of Justice, US attorney in the Northern District of Georgia because it happened in front of a federal judge and a federal process and by Fawney Willis. So it's a double, it's a double crime. So Jeff Clark is either gonna let his lawyers

try to argue the law, all right? And not let their guy take the stand because Mark Meadows went first and got his head handed to him. Or he's gonna have to take the stand and then give Fawney Willis the ability to get what normally prosecutors don't get, which is a chatty, talkative, under oath, Fifth Amendment waived defendant before their trial. Okay, so that's going to play out one way or the other on the 18th of September when Jeff

Clark's motion or attempt to remove his case from state to federal court is heard. We're going to follow all these things because when it happens, we try to catch it, look at it, analyze it, explode it, and reassemble it here for you on how it takes just like this one, one place the Midas Touch Network YouTube channel. So we've gone over already, Jeff Clark burying the lead, trying to take all 19 across the street to try the case in federal court, not state court, and telling Judge McAfee, can you give me an extension at time so I can do all that?

Now look, this is all going to play out the next couple of days because Judge McAfee's Chamber rules, which are the rules of the road, the operator's manual, the owner's manual for his courtroom says the following. One, everything's televised. So this hearing with Fony Willis about setting the trial and how many days and how many witnesses, we're going to see that on television, on YouTube, and the minus touch network and commentators are going to be able to talk about it. That's this week. In addition to that, we also learned that

from the judges chamber rules that as soon as the last arrangement, which was today, he's gonna issue a specialized custom bespoke order about process and he'll be able to address what's going on with Jeff Clark as, because of course the state court judge recognizes that there's a small subset of his 19 that are across the street and federal court. You know, he doesn't have, you know, justice is blind, but the judge doesn't have blinders

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