Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump FELON Status SCREWS HIM Where He LEAST EXPECTED

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

As a convicted felon, Trump is in danger of having his 3 liquour licenses PULLED FOR HIS GOLF COURSES in NJ, along with having his bank loans called and accelerated because of his business record frau...d conviction. Michael Popok explains it all in his latest hot take. Policygenius: Head to to get your free life insurance quotes and see how much you could save. Visit for more! Join us on Patreon: Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: Legal AF: The PoliticsGirl Podcast: The Influence Continuum: Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: The Weekend Show: Burn the Boats: Majority 54: Political Beatdown: Lights On with Jessica Denson: On Democracy with FP Wellman: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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Starting point is 00:02:13 a lot of rights, licenses, and privileges. Like voting rights, like his concealed weapons permit in New York because the New York Police Department is investigating taking away his weapons permit. Note to self, I didn't know he had weapons and was carrying guns. And now the New Jersey Alcohol Beverage Commission is investigating whether Donald Trump should lose his liquor licenses in three golf course locations in New Jersey because convicted felons can't hold liquor licenses. See, this is hitting him where he lives
Starting point is 00:02:46 because now he's not gonna make any money on the 19th hole in all of his golf courses. What am I talking about? In particular, the, and I live in New Jersey, so I know a little bit about what I talk about. My family once had a liquor license. The Division of Alcohol Beverage Control is looking into whether Donald Trump now has
Starting point is 00:03:06 violated the law which prohibits a liquor license to anyone who's been convicted of a crime involving moral turpitude. A state handbook, as was outlined in an Associated Press article, explains that those sorts of crimes involve dishonesty, fraud, or depravity, severe enough to be typically be punishable by more than a year in prison. Well, let's talk about the conviction for effectively business record fraud in furtherance of a second crime and whether that fits the bill for moral turpitude. It does. I can't see an argument, especially since he already got found in a civil setting to have
Starting point is 00:03:46 committed the act of fraud, where that in combination with this particular conviction, 34 count, by a jury in New York isn't going to be seriously considered by the Bureau of Alcohol Control in New Jersey about whether they're going to pull the licenses. Now Trump apparently has his own licenses for three golf courses in New Jersey, or it's an entity. I mean, generally you regulate a person, not an entity when it comes to liquor licenses. So I'm sure Donald Trump is listed as an applicant, or at least as the primary owner of these golf courses.
Starting point is 00:04:20 They make a lot of money, as you can imagine, from the 19th hole, the watering hole, selling booze at golf courses. It's probably, you know, other than the fees related to the golf course and things in the golf shop that people want to buy, you know, and all those things, it is the number one way you make revenue in a golf course. You know, you don't want acres and acres of land,
Starting point is 00:04:44 you know, with 18 holes in it if you aren't gonna just make a lot of money selling side services. I'm not a golfer. It's not that I can't play, it's just, I don't find it that interesting, but I have been out on a course and I do understand in these clubhouses and in restaurants and in luncheonettes
Starting point is 00:05:04 and in grills, all around golf courses, they make a ton of money from members and guests of members at these golf courses. If he were to lose his liquor license because of the felony conviction, it would be a tremendous hit to the profitability and viability of running these golf courses.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Now, what could he do? Could he transfer the licenses to another entity and to another licensee? Sure, I mean, I've been involved on the law side in regulated industries, gaming, casinos, in this case, alcohol and beverage. And sure, there is an ability, if it's a legitimate transfer and not a strongman
Starting point is 00:05:47 transfer, where the entity that is owning the liquor license has no real ownership interest or Trump has no real ownership interest in it. I mean, could he be a silent minority owner in it? Maybe, but you generally, as I said before, you need individual people, human beings to be licensees under the laws of these, that regulate these types of industries. So if somebody else steps in, I don't know, one of the kids that wasn't convicted for Donald Trump or some other outsider, let him do it, there's still, there's going to have to be an investigation about the relationship between Donald Trump and that particular person. And if it's too strong of a relationship, then it's just going to be seen as a sham
Starting point is 00:06:28 or a fraud and they're not going to allow it either. It's a real problem. For those people out there at these rallies that are leaving early in Nevada or passing out from the heat and Donald Trump commenting he doesn't really care about them, just about their votes, ha ha, they might not think that there's real world consequences to the conviction. I mean, I saw a polling that 55% of Trump supporters didn't even think there'd be a conviction because they so believed the hopium that was being peddled by Donald Trump and his followers, except they left out the fact that there was real trial, real evidence, real testimony, real jurors,
Starting point is 00:07:06 and a real deliberation leading to a real conviction. But put that aside for a minute. These same people have not thought through what it means for Donald Trump to be a convicted felon. His inability to travel overseas, for instance. Not that he liked going overseas except when he opened up golf courses in Scotland and things. He's notoriously somebody that hated travel. He was not a world traveler. This Trump jet of his, Air Force Trump or whatever it's called, Air Trump, it rarely left the United States. He doesn't like foreign travel. As you can see, he doesn't go to like the Caribbean or Hawaii even
Starting point is 00:07:43 in the United States or Puerto Rico. He stays at all of his golf courses, you know, and that's because he's a notorious germaphobe, doesn't like travel, he's one of the most intellectually uninterested and uninteresting presidents we've ever had. And so, but if he's a president you think he'd have to do some foreign travel. He may not be able to as a felon voting. He won't have, he'll have been convicted, a judged, a convicted felon by July the 11th in New York
Starting point is 00:08:11 when the sentencing happens. At that time, he's a felon. He's not the governor of New York, Governor Hockel is not going to expunge his conviction or pardon him. So for the purposes of the actual voting on November the 5th, he is a felon who cannot vote. Life insurance gives me peace of mind, especially when so much of what happens in life is unpredictable.
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Starting point is 00:10:02 Head to slash legal AF or click the link in the description to get your free life insurance quotes and see how much you could save. That's slash legal AF. Now, could DeSantis, the governor of Florida and the legislature there do something to expunge him, particularly the Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:10:25 Voting Rights Act bill and get it passed, probably. But there is that implication. There is the fact that he has licenses that require him not to be a felon, even if it's not one involving a violent crime. And that puts his gun licenses in jeopardy. And that puts his, and as I've just outlined, his three liquor licenses in jeopardy in New Jersey. Like we're gonna report on all of this stuff and think through the ramifications. I mean Ben Mycelis, my colleague on Legal AF, did a great hot take about whether Donald
Starting point is 00:10:59 Trump has allowed him to the Constitution to serve as the commander-in-chief of the armed forces as a felon. The reality is our founding fathers never anticipated a criminal president or a criminal as president or that a party, one of the two major parties, the only two major parties in our system of government would be co-opted by a criminal element. They never anticipated that. So what we're seeing now is the scramble by state and local and federal institutions to try to control and out of control Donald Trump and the reign of terror that he has or had already unleashed and one that he's threatening to unleash again if he ever gets back into
Starting point is 00:11:41 office. But we will continue to check off on hot takes like this one, all the ways that felon Donald Trump, convicted felon Donald Trump has lost licenses and permissions to do business and things like that because of a requirement that he not be a felon. There's other things too. I'm sure as a personal guarantor, as a personal guarantor in his bank loans, there is a condition that he not be convicted of a felony related to moral turpitude, just like in New Jersey. That could accelerate the loans and make them come due now,
Starting point is 00:12:20 right at the moment when he doesn't have any money because he can't sell his stock in Trump media, Trump media technology group until September. So this implication, which is I'm focused on on the hot take of what happens off the felony conviction in terms of his personal guarantees and his bank loans, what happens with his liquor license, what happens with his voting rights, what happens with his ability to have a concealed weapons permit are important. We bring it to you right here on Legal AF on Wednesdays and Saturdays at 8 p.m. Eastern time and then on any audio podcast platform of your choice. I do hot takes like this about every day at the intersection of law and politics. If you like what I'm doing, I'm Michael Popak. Leave a comment, give me a thumbs up, open a dialogue with me, it helps with the ratings.
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