Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump Files Emergency Motion over $50 Million Assault Verdict

Episode Date: July 24, 2026

Trump is back at abusing his Sex Abuse Survivor and courageous Plaintiff E Jean Carroll again, filing a last minute, bad faith “emergency” motion with the Second Circuit to allow him to clawback t...he $5.8 million he was forced to pay her for sexually abusing her and was paid to her on July 9, while he continues to try to get the Supreme Court to reverse themselves and bail him out. Qualia Magnesium: Go to https://QualiaLife.com/legalaf for up to 50% OFF! Pre-order the new book from MeidasTouch, WTF America?!: The Way Out of This Hell and Back to Democracy, today: https://bit.ly/wtfamericayoutube Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show The Ken Harbaugh Show: https://meidasnews.com/tag/the-ken-harbaugh-show Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:28 Lots of women have come forward. Many of them have given their narrative, their testimony, their truth in interviews, some even under oath in a courtroom. The only person who's ever had a jury, a judge Donald Trump, and find him to be a sex abuser is E. Jean Carroll. And she was awarded that money by that jury after a several-week trial. After many levels and layers of appeal, Donald Trump losing every juncture. He then, when everything was done and all of his appellate rights were exhausted and we were exhausted along with him.
Starting point is 00:02:07 He said, oh no, I don't want the money paid. Judge Kaplan, you can't pay her the money, even though that's what your order says because I still have one last piece of paper to throw into the United States Supreme Court. Forget it, said Judge Kaplan. And by July the 9th, she got her $5.8 million. He tried even then on the 8th of July to go to the Second Circuit and say, don't pay her the money.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Block Judge Kaplan's order directing the clerk to pay her the money, and they refused. Now that she has the money, Donald Trump has filed a new emergency motion to get the appellate court to do that which he's never asked the district court, the trial court level, to do, which is already a violation of a rule of appellate procedure. and wait to you here what E. Jean Carroll's lawyers, led by Robbie Kaplan, have to tell the Second Circuit about this bad faith filing. I think it goes beyond that. I think once they win this, and they will, and she gets to keep the $5.8 million that they file,
Starting point is 00:03:11 I think they should file a motion for sanctions for appellate, misconduct, and abuse led by Donald Trump and his lawyers at Sullivan and Cromwell. I'm Michael Popock. Let's get to this new development. I just reported a week or so ago on the ninth, just 13 days ago, that E.G. and Carol got the $5.8 million. Now, she's still waiting on the $91 million that Donald Trump also owes her as it makes its way through the last station stop on the train
Starting point is 00:03:41 for the United States Supreme Court to reject Donald Trump's appeal of that one. This all stems from her being sexually abused in a dressing room by Donald Trump in 1996 and a department store diagonally across from Trump Tower. Jury believed that because it was true. And by the preponderance of the evidence presented, including the testimony of other women who were sexually abused by Donald Trump and the jury credited their testimony
Starting point is 00:04:06 and other evidence against Donald Trump. Now, once that trial came out, other things that Donald Trump doesn't like, we call them facts, came to light. like Donald Trump in a deposition mistaking E. Jean Carroll for his first wife. Remember, Donald Trump's primary defense, not that this is a defense to sexually abuse
Starting point is 00:04:31 or raping somebody, is that he did not find them attractive. Donald Trump thought that would help him with the American people. So he said, I don't find her attractive. I don't even know who she is until a photo appeared of him with her and some other people. And it sticks in his craw that that photo got revealed.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And so he said, and this is in the filing by E.G. Carroll's lawyers, to stop the injunction, stop a court from ordering E.J. Carroll to pay back the money to Donald Trump or put it back in the court registry. It says, he says in a posting on June 29th, this is just the day after the Supreme Court, after 13 considerations rejected his
Starting point is 00:05:17 petition for appeal. Without dissent. I mean, not one person on the Supreme Court. Not one. Not even Kavanaugh. Not even Thomas who have their own sexual abuse and discrimination problems. Not one. He said, surprisingly, the Supreme Court declined to review a fake case brought against me by a woman I never met. And then he references the photo. Decades old celebrity photo line standing with her husband does not count. You can see that E. Jean Carroll rents space for free in Donald Trump's real estate of his brain. Now, at the top of this hot take, I said that Donald Trump once said about E. Jean Carroll that she enjoyed being sexually abused. If you thought I made that up, here's a clip from his deposition. He's under oath here, folks. Play the clip. I think she said it was sexy, didn't she? It was very sexy to be re-ed. Didn't she say that?
Starting point is 00:06:09 So, sir, I just want to confirm. It's your testimony that E. E. Gene Carroll said that she, loved being sexually assaulted by you? And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the . You can do anything. That's what you said, correct? Well, historically, that's true with stars.
Starting point is 00:06:26 It's true with stars that they can grab women by the . Well, that's what, if you look over the last million years, I guess that's been largely true, not always, but largely true. Exactly. Now, the photo I know from having interviewed E. Jean Carroll's lawyer, Robert Kaplan, of E. Jean Carroll's lawyer, Robert Kaplan, of E. there with her husband, John Johnson at the time, a newscaster of a certain celebrity in New York and Donald and laughing about it. It wasn't a selfie, in other words. He wants to make it look like
Starting point is 00:06:57 it was a selfie. You know, like when you don't know a celebrity and you photo bomb them or you force them into a photo and they stand there like, they don't really want to be there. This wasn't a photo bomb. There wasn't selfie sticks back then. This is the 90s or the late 80s. This was, people who knew each other having a good laugh. And when Donald Trump was presented with it, I know that E. G. Carroll's lawyer, Robbie, just wanted him to acknowledge that he knew her, or he had met her before. But it took a different turn. And then, and it undermined and made Donald Trump look ridiculous. And you see, he's still, he's still smarten from it today. Play in the deposition clip. I don't even know who the woman. Let's say, I don't know who. It's Marla.
Starting point is 00:07:42 You're saying Marbles in this photo? That's Marla. Yeah. That's my mom. wife. Which woman are you pointing to? Here. The person you just pointed to was E. James Carroll. Who is that? Who is this? And the person of the woman on the right is your then wife? I don't know. This was the picture. I assume that's John Johnson. Is that? That's Carol. Because it's very blurry. Look, magnesium is something most of us aren't getting enough of. And if you're just grabbing the drugstore version, you may not be getting the full picture. Industrial farming, stress and everyday aging can all make it harder to get the magnesium your body needs. The thing is,
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Starting point is 00:09:11 potency, and performance. Plus, it's non-GMO, vegan and gluten-free, making it a choice you can feel good about. Go to qualia life.com slash legal a.f for 50% off. And here's a bonus. Use the code legal AF for an additional 15% off your order. That's QA-L-I-A-L-A-Live.com slash legal AF and use code legal AF. Thanks to Qualia for sponsoring this episode. Now, the primary argument, we'll put this filing by E. Jean Carroll's lawyers that just came in the last 24 hours up in legal AF substack. The primary argument is he can't ask for an injunction. Under Rule 8 of the federal rules of appellate procedure, you've got to seek that kind of injunction with Judge Kaplan, the district court judge, you never did. And in order to get an injunction, you have to satisfy four elements. You have to show that you will likely succeed on the merits. In other words, you're going to win at the United States Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Already he's not going to win at the United States Supreme Court. They 13 times from February until June, they looked at that request for an appeal, and they rejected it, meaning not one. He couldn't get four out of nine votes, and he controls six of them to take up the appeal, let alone five to rule in his favor. And finally, it looks like all nine without dissent throughout the appeal, denied the appeal, period. an appeal about whether Judge Kaplan led in certain evidence of prior sexual abuse
Starting point is 00:10:42 or not correctly, which he did. So he says, well, I got one more, even though the stipulation about paying her says, as soon as all my appellate rights are exhausted, including a writ of certiorari of appeal, filed with the Supreme Court being rejected. But I'm going to do a motion for reconsideration. Well, so what? You do that on your own dime. You do that on your own dime.
Starting point is 00:11:02 She gets paid in the meantime. And if you somehow win, she'll pay you back. Oh no, she won't pay me back. But that's not a reprimable harm. That's not inadequate remedy at law. Because there's no evidence that she won't pay you back. It just means that for the next two years, the money's on her side of the ledger, not yours.
Starting point is 00:11:19 You've made her wait three years. Isn't that fair? Page three. They say, there is more. Plaintiff, E. Jean Carroll, knew who she was dealing with when the jury rendered its verdict. For that reason, the party's stipulation entered on June 23, 23, by the court explicitly provides that the judgment should be dispersed upon a denial of a timely filed petition for writ of cert, which has now occurred.
Starting point is 00:11:47 The stipulation and order say nothing about a petition for rehearing and defendant cannot rewrite the plain language of the party's agreement now. They also remind the court on page 20, but she's 82 years old, and that further delay, further gamesmanship by the defendant. defendant should not be rewarded. They know they're going to lose this. Trump just wants her to die. Let's call it out for what it is and pay the estate of E. Jean Carroll, then pay E. Jean Carroll, and let her benefit from the payment, whatever she's going to do with it in her lifetime. And that's just wrong. And that's inequitable. And that's unfair and unjust. And yet another abuse of his sex abuse survivor. They also say on page 21 and 22 that the public interest would not be served by further delay. Public interest is having plaintiffs who might be entitled to recovery, receive compensation,
Starting point is 00:12:44 while still living and able to use it to improve the quality of their lives. That was a case involving the World Trade Center. And then they end it this way. One paragraph sums it all up. Defend it has lost before a jury. This is Trump. The district Court, a unanimous Second Circuit panel, the full Second Circuit on Bonk, meaning all 20 judges of the Second Circuit and the Supreme Court of the United States, he agreed in a signed stipulation that Carol could collect her judgment once a certiorari petition has been denied. That happened. Carol should not have to wait any longer. I also love the fact they never use the name Trump, except when they have to identify him at the beginning. It's always the defendant and he. They're not
Starting point is 00:13:30 going to give him the honorific of President Trump. This case wasn't about President Trump. This case was about E. Jean Carroll's sex abuse survivor against her tormentor and predator Donald J. Trump. It was then, it is now. He's been branded a predator and a sex abuser by a jury in New York, plain and simple. Supreme Court has not bailed him out, and I don't think they will. The only way the Supreme Court could grant a motion for reconsideration is if they found
Starting point is 00:13:59 there were new evidence that was missed. What is the new evidence? They've already considered the argument. Sullivan and Cromwell, the law firm for Donald Trump, put it in their papers in the petition for appeal. Main arguments, oh, they let in the testimony of two sex abuse survivors of Donald Trump in another context. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Federal rules of evidence allow in a sex abuse case you to put in prior bad acts involving sexual misconduct in front of the jury. it's an exception to the general rule that prior bad acts don't come in to prove the current conformity therewith in a current trial. But there's an exception in the rules of evidence created by Congress for sex abuse cases and sexual misconduct cases, plain and simple. Oh, the access Hollywood tape shouldn't have come in. Where him saying he could grab a woman by her genitalia and get away with it. Why shouldn't it come in? It shows his misogyny. It shows his approach to sexual misconduct, how he mistreats women.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Of course, that should have come in. And even if it came in and it shouldn't have come in, it's not reversible error. That's the argument. Because there was a mountain of other testimony the jury considered, including the live testimony of E. Jean Carroll, which was not refuted by Donald Trump, who did not take the stand. He was busy golfing in Scotland instead. He made that calculation not to testify. And the testimony of witnesses, what we call witnesses, outcry witnesses.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Those are witnesses who, at the time that the sexual abuse happened, she spoke to two of her friends. One wrote the preppy guide, Carolyn Bernbach. She wrote a book about preppy, the preppy guide to life or whatever it was. And Carol Martin, who was a CBS news, local CBS news reporter. And the reason she put on those witnesses is because there was an argument that she waited like 25 years to bring up the case. But at the time it happened, she told her truth to those two witnesses. We call them outcry witnesses. And they testified that after hearing what happened to her in the dressing room, they said, E Jean, you were raped.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I mean, because she couldn't even believe it and what had happened to her. She had a passing knowledge of Donald Trump. And they testified. So that's one of the reasons the Supreme Court doesn't want to touch it. The second case she has for about $92 million, that's going to kick around the United States Supreme Court probably until the beginning of the new term, which begins in October. That's about whether immunity, not criminal immunity, because this was not a criminal case. This was a civil case. But whether Donald Trump, when he defamed her again as president of the United States the first time, and punitive damages were awarded against him, whether he was doing his official job,
Starting point is 00:16:51 His employee badge as president, his scope of work, we call it Westfall or federal employee immunity, whether that is covered or not or whether that was waived or not by Alina Haba. I believe it was waived. The Second Circuit believes it was waived twice. And now the Supreme Court hopefully will find the same thing, and she'll get her $92 million running with interest. We'll continue to follow it right here. I'm Michael Popok. Take a minute.
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