Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump Gets Blasted in Open Court for Willful Violation
Episode Date: April 23, 2025In a scathing rebuke in the Abrego-Garcia “lawless seizure” case, Federal Judge Paula Xinis has just ruled that the Trump Administration and its lawyers’ “bad faith” to “willfully evade�...�� their court-ordered obligations using “specious arguments,” "ends now.” Michael Popok examines the hearing and the judge’s new order that puts the Trump Administration and its DOJ lawyers on a fast track to another federal judge finding them in contempt of court. Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I've been a federal litigator for 35 years.
I've rarely have ever seen this language used in a scathing new order against the Trump administration,
like the language used by Judge Zinnis, who's presiding over the Abrego Garcia case.
Not just Judge Zinnis, Judge Zinnis, who has been upheld twice by the Fourth
Circuit and once by the United States Supreme Court, all in unanimous decisions.
Here's what she has written.
And then I'll give you the order about the discovery games that the Trump
administration is playing about Abrego Garcia.
And it ends now to quote Judge Zinnis.
She said, and I'm cherry picking from her order, that the government's actions represent
a willful disregard of their discovery obligations, bad faith disregard of their discovery allegations,
based on specious arguments raised not in good faith and in an attempt
to be evasive of their fundamental discovery
obligations.
And she says the stonewalling ends now,
giving them until today to fix their responses
to the questions and requests for documents
that have been made properly by the plaintiffs.
What's going on here?
I'm gonna tell you right now
on the Midas Touch Network and Legal AF,
the backdrop here is that the plaintiffs council
for Abrego Garcia have made a motion
for contempt against the Trump administration.
The judge pumped the brakes and said,
let's develop some facts and develop a record here properly
under the civil rules of procedure.
And let's see their answers.
Let's do some depositions,
then come back to me about your motion for contempt.
But of course, the Trump administration
doesn't want to play nicely in the sandbox.
They don't want to, they just want to crap in the sandbox
and they don't want to provide any information.
Now, let me read to you from the order.
I mean, the hearing that she held
late yesterday for the reporters in the room was scathing and she has this constant battle and it's
a losing one with Drew Ensign who's the sock puppet for the Department of Justice that keeps
getting trotted out there in all of these cases, these ridiculous cases on behalf of the administration
and he takes very very strange positions because client, the Department of Justice and Donald
Trump make him do it.
Well, we don't interpret the Supreme Court's ruling the way
you do, Judge.
I mean, I don't know how you read two lines of a Supreme
Court ruling any differently.
And she's had it with them and doesn't believe them.
And just as the Supreme Court is deeply skeptical,
so is Judge Zinns.
And really all federal judges that
are handling cases because they're taking,
the Trump administration is taking such outrageous
beyond the pale positions in the courtroom.
It's easy for the judges to look them and say,
no, there's no argument here.
I wanna also cover before I end this hot take,
wanna touch on something I'll expand on.
There has been a tremendous reversal in a position by Donald Trump
at his administration that has not been covered before. We're going to talk about it here as well.
Let's get to the order. This is the ruling that came out of yesterday's hearing.
Starts with their objection. They started many of their responses, the government,
to the discovery responses. Discovery being the process prior to trial or hearing in which the parties exchange information
through depositions, question and answers under oath,
written questions under oath,
which are called interrogatories
or requests for production of documents,
which is what it sounds like.
So the way the Trump administration started off
all of their objections with this false premise,
it's the false premise about what the Supreme Court ruling
actually says and therefore we can't answer the discovery.
Here's how the judge handled that on page one.
Defendants object to certain discovery
because they claim the request are based on quote,
the false premise that the United States can
or has been ordered to facilitate
a Briego Garcia's release from custody in El Salvador.
Defendants and their counsel well know
that the falsehood lies not in any supposed premise,
but in their continued mischaracterization
of the Supreme Court's order.
See what the judge did there?
She said, there's only one falsehood here,
and the falsehood is what the position of the Trump
administration.
That order made clear that this court properly
required the government to facilitate A Brega Garcia's release
from custody in El Salvador and to ensure
that the case is handled as it would have been
had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador
or what she says, lawlessly, illegally sent to El Salvador.
She then goes on, she says,
"'Defendant's objection reflects a willful
and bad faith refusal to comply with discovery obligations.'
And all of their objections on that ground are overruled.
Then they try to assert privilege.
Oh, we can't answer that question, Judge.
State secret privilege, executive privilege,
attorney-client privilege.
But in order to do that properly in federal court,
and these lawyers know better,
you have to set out the facts that support the privilege,
and you have to create what's called a privilege log,
which is a listing of all the documents by description,
and sufficient enough that you can debate it
without having the other side see the document.
You have to prepare a privilege log.
They didn't prepare a privilege log.
They didn't even provide any facts
to support any of their privileges.
And here's what she said about that on page two. privilege lock. They didn't prepare a privilege lock. They didn't even provide any facts to support any of their privileges.
And here's what she said about that. On page two, equally specious defendants objections on the grounds of privilege are
rejected. They provide no supporting information or
analysis. As defendants and their counsel know, the
proponent of a privilege must demonstrate the legal and factual
basis to invoke the protections
that such privilege affords. Of course, they don't do that. Instead, on page three, she said,
defendants and counsel. See, she's putting counsel, the lawyers, on notice that she could also
separately discipline them. Defendants and counsel stubbornly refuse to provide any basis
for the privilege, she says. It is a willful refusal to comply
with the court's discovery orders,
and she finds that an offer to now, late in the game,
prepare or consult about a privilege log
is too little too late.
And so she has ruled, here's what she says on that.
Defendants have known at least since last week
that this court requires specific legal
and factual showings
to support any claim of privilege.
Yet they have continued to rely on boilerplate assertions.
That ends now, 6 p.m. Eastern time today,
they are to turn over all the documents,
no more privilege assertion.
She's effectively gotten rid of those,
but she's gonna, actually, she's going to give them one more chance
to supplement and provide the required facts
and privilege log by six o'clock today.
Or that's it.
She struck all of that.
On page four, she says,
defendant's objection about the timeline
for the documents is rejected. Defendant, she says, arbitr's objection about the timeline for the documents is rejected.
Defendant, she says, arbitrarily cramped reading
of the court's order is rejected.
At a minimum, the discovery period contemplates the time
immediately preceding Abrego Garcia's lawless seizure
on March 12th, 2025 and his transport
and confinement to Seacot.
She then takes on their objections about
information about Abrego Garcia's removal to El Salvador,
his initial placement in Seacot, that's the prison,
or his continued confinement there.
The objections are overruled.
Information regarding Abrego Garcia's removal,
as well as placement and confinement,
cut to the heart of the inquiry.
She wants to know what steps, if any, defendants have taken
or will take to facilitate his release from custody.
Then she doesn't believe them about that there's only
two people that are involved with the removal to El
Salvador of Abrego Garcia and his initial placement in CICOT,
listing Robert Cerna and Evan Katz.
She said, given the context of this case,
defendants have failed to respond in good faith
and the refusal to do so could only be viewed
as willful and intentional noncompliance.
Now let me take a break here for a minute.
When a judge uses this language, bad faith, willful, violation of the law,
not in good faith,
evasive of fundamental discovery obligations,
she is winding up and the pitch is gonna be contempt
and findings of bad faith and sanctions,
not just against the Trump administration.
Look out Mr. Ensign for the Department of Justice
because you're right in the line of fire here for the judge.
Now she's given them to supplement, fix,
or provide the documents.
Six o'clock today.
I bet dollars to donuts they don't do it right.
How about you guys?
Leave a message here in the notes here, in the comments,
which means the lawyers will then come back to the court
for another hearing.
And I think at that point,
she will either find them in default, the government,
order more discovery and or move to that contempt hearing
that we talked about.
I'm gonna talk about it at another hot take coming up next
about a concession after the Fourth Circuit Court
of Appeals ruled in Judge Zinnis's favor, in
Abrego Garcia's favor, just last week with Judge Wilkinson, they have, it has moved the rock and
has changed the approach for the Trump administration in trying to get Abrego Garcia back. I'm going to
do that in another hot take to follow this one. So until my next reporting, look, you're already here
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