Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump Gets Skewered as Desperate Appeal Backfires in Court
Episode Date: October 21, 2025In breaking news, the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, to Alina Habba’s face, seems poised to bounce her as US Attorney for NJ and finding she was illegally appointed by Trump, impacting at least 26 ...other Trump picks while she’s at it. Michael Popok brought the receipts with today’s Oral Argument hearing clips, that went so bad for Habba that posted a social media post that actually lied to the American People and implied that SHE argued the case today when she didn’t, and in a moment that undermines her whole case, FORGOT that Trump pulled her nomination for US Attorney a couple of months ago! OneSkin: Get 15% off OneSkin with the code LEGALAF at https://oneskin.co/hair #oneskinpod Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Like, I get to report that Alina Haba is likely to lose at the Third Circuit Court of Appeals about her appointment as the New Jersey Attorney General because the three-judge panel, two Bushes and one Obama, were not buying whatever her lawyer was selling.
And the lawyer that was selling was not named Alina Haba.
But she was in the room for the hottest of hot benches.
I've got the receipts.
I've got the audio clips.
you're going to hear about it here
so gather around and then
as she was leaving the courtroom
Alina Haba lied to the American people
and suggested that she made the oral
argument at the Third Circuit Court of Appeals
when she did not. It was a guy named
Mr. Whitaker. The last time
I heard Alina Haba argue anything
was at the Second Circuit Court of
Appeals about E. Jean Carroll's case
with Donald Trump and she got her
head handed to her then.
Wait to you hear what Judge Smith
did at the oral argument
And today, it's going to make you very happy.
I'm here in the Midas Touch Network and Legal A.F., let's dive into it.
How did we get here?
We got here because about two months ago, maybe a little bit longer, a just ordinary criminal
defendant in New Jersey for a drug case decided, you know what?
Why is Alina Haba, my prosecutor?
Why is she signing indictments as the acting U.S. attorney for New Jersey when she wasn't
properly appointed while Donald Trump completely violated the many, many aspects of the appointment
process, including the Vacancy Reform Act, which we call Section 546 and a bunch of other things.
Why is she even allowed to indict anybody?
So they filed a motion to disqualify her.
And the Department of Justice laughed and they intervened and they filed motions.
And you know what?
It got assigned to a judge in the middle district of Pennsylvania.
because if the lawyer who filed the motion was right,
Alina Haba's new replacement in New Jersey
would be picked by all the judges of the District Court of New Jersey,
all 23 of them,
who had already rejected Alina Haba
when our first 120 days by statute ran out.
See, Donald Trump first tried to nominate her
to be the U.S. attorney for New Jersey
when she got blocked by the two Democratic senators,
Kim and Booker,
he was stuck so he appointed her tried to appoint her initially as the interim or as the acting they're like that's fine but under the statute you get 120 days then when the 120 days ran out he was stuck except they said no we're going to do it and run around the statute and everybody was like how they're going to do this we all watched with with with uh glee as they scrambled and so what they did is first they withdrew her nomination which she seems to have forgotten about to
today, because in her social media posting, she still acts like she's been nominated and
she's just waiting for her call to the Senate.
A newsflash, Alina, your nomination was pulled by Donald Trump.
That's how you got here.
In fact, if the appellate court reads your social media post, you're toast because you just
admitted that you think you're still nominated.
So Donald Trump, in reality, on planet Earth, Alina, withdrew your nomination, then fired the
person who the judges had appointed.
as the U.S. attorney, and I give her a lot of credit.
She was a Republican, non-Trumper, stood up, took the job.
She had it for about 12 hours.
Then Donald Trump fired her, made Alina Hobb of the number two in the office,
and then under the Vacancy Reform Act, tried to elevate her to number one,
all to do it and run around the appointment clause of the U.S. Constitution.
And then to add insult to injury or basically to confess that they had,
They were violating the statute.
Pam Bondi for good measure like belt, belt, suspender, suspender,
decided to also make her a special attorney with the powers,
but not all the powers of the U.S. Attorney of New Jersey.
Confused, you won't be what I'm done.
So that happened.
Department of Justice didn't like it.
Alina Haba, come Alina Haba is the completely unqualified,
obscenely unqualified, unethical, political hack that Donald Trump,
you know, it's one of his office wives,
likes to go with her to MAGA, MAGA, you know, MMF fighting and all sorts of things as his escort, as his date.
And then, so they didn't like it.
So they took an appeal.
Now, the reason that motion got heard by the Middle District of Pennsylvania judge who ruled against Habba, found that she was improperly appointed, is because there was a conflict between all of the judges of New Jersey, which refused to extend her 120 days and rejected her and pointed that.
second person and this motion. So that is up at the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, three judge
panel. We've got Judge Felipe Restrepo and Obama appointee, Judge Fisher, and Judge Smith.
There was really Fisher and Smith, the two Bush appointees, who led the way. And you're going to hear
it. And it started from the opening bell. First judge up, Judge Fisher decided he was even
going to question why Alita Habba's name is even on the brief. Let's play that clip. In this case,
The executive branch admittedly took a series of precise and precisely timed steps, not to evade or circumvent those mechanisms, but rather to be scrupulously careful to comply with them.
Counsel, could I begin with a question that is based upon my not having seen such a representation before, but when I picked up your moving brief, what we call the blue brief in this case,
I was struck by the names on the brief, on the left,
O'Nehaba, acting U.S. attorney,
and right underneath, special attorney.
And, of course, the usual question that a judge would ask is,
which, what, who is this person?
What's actual position are they serving?
I've been an advocate in front of appellate courts.
Not the third, but I've argued in front of the second
and the ninth and the 11th.
It's tough.
I give Whitaker a little bit of credit.
he was sort of hanging on like it was a rodeo
and he had to stay on the Bronco for eight seconds
or at some cowboy bar.
But eventually, the crappiness of your opinion
or a crappiness of your argument
is going to catch up with you.
So that's how it started, okay?
And it got hotter from there.
Next, while Alina Abba is in the courtroom,
one of the judges, I believe, Judge Smith,
then attacked her credentials saying she was effectively
inexperienced. Let's play the inexperience clip.
The first assistant is absolutely a political appointee.
And I think that is an extremely odd result.
But there's some language, there's language in 3345 that would reference experience for the person 90 days within the prior 365 days.
So it's hard for me to see when I look at the total section itself because it's, you know, it's not the best.
and most clearest statute that I've ever read.
I'll grant you that.
There's some confusion in it.
But it does say to me that Congress had a very specific intent.
They wanted an experienced person to be that acting officer.
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It went downhill for there.
Now, again, Whitaker is tap dancing his way through his 45 minutes of presentation.
And he asked for a rebuttal.
See, when you get your time to argue, you can reserve a certain amount of time.
It's up to you.
You can reserve a certain amount of time for rebuttal.
I think the most time I've ever reserved for rebuttal is like five minutes.
Usually I reserve three minutes.
He reserved three or four minutes.
And he got his head handed to him in front of Haba during the rebuttal by Judge Smith.
In fact, it all started when he triggered the court.
I'm talking about the lawyer for the Department of Justice.
When he triggered the court, especially Judge Smith, by making an accusation that this was all because people were against Alina Haba.
Judge Smith decided to take him to the woodshed on that and go through the entire recitation of how we got here with all the ways that Donald Trump violated the statute.
Let's play that clip.
The Attorney General hereby delegate me, Mr. Whitaker, and I do hate to interrupt, but are you suggesting anything more than just a recitation of the history here when you said, and nothing like that had happened until Alina Haba was nominated?
Well, I guess.
One thing that I have been very much aware of and would have said before my own questioning began is that Ms. Haba,
Nothing about this involves, in my view, Ms. Haba personally.
This is about the statutes.
This is about the separation of powers.
This is about an important position within the firmament of our government.
This is about process, which is what the system that we operate under every day is all about,
whether it's due process or whether it's just process provided by procedural rules or substantive
law. And so I just want to say that, and I'm sure my colleagues agree that this is not a personal
thing. So I wanted to give you an opportunity to indicate whether that was your suggestion or not.
No, Your Honor. I guess my suggestion is that the government, what the government has done here with
Alina Haba is consistent with longstanding practice.
In many of those instances, that practice went unchallenged.
Oh, all right.
Since you said that, I do have to ask you this.
I've heard your argument about consistency, and I didn't think that you would say that.
But let me indulge me, please, with this recitation of my understanding of the recent history here and tell me where I'm wrong.
And I may be at some point.
We go back to March 24th.
And the president announces on truth social that Ms. Habo will be our interim U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey, effective immediately.
Now, he was wrong about effective immediately, I believe, right?
Well, I think the president was not speaking in lawyerly terms, but I think the president was in effect.
Dates are something that we can refer to and not have to be a lawyer, but let's skip over that.
I don't want to get into a side argument.
And then Attorney General Bondi swears in Ms. Haba as the interim U.S. Attorney.
And then on June 30, there is, I believe, a nomination by the President of Ms. Haba to be, the United States Attorney,
120 days lapse on July 1.
After that, one of the issues in one of the cases here is the signature of Ms. Haba on the Pina Induction.
indictment, not of great concern to what's before us right now.
On July 22nd, 120 days elapsed after the truth social announcements, I just referenced a minute
ago.
Next, the district court appoints Desiree Grace.
First assistant is the U.S. attorney, effect of July 22, or upon expiration of 120 days
after the appointment of Ms. Haba, Grace, of course, is terminated from the DOJ, a
Attorney General Bondi announces on X that Grace has just been removed.
The president withdraws the Haba USA nomination.
Ms. Haba resigns as the interim United States attorney.
And then Attorney General Bondi appoints Ms. Haba special attorney to the Attorney General
with authorization to conduct all proceedings that USAs may conduct.
and we've gone over the statute that that seems to be within her province.
Then Attorney General Bondi appoints Ms. Haba to a first assistant position vacated by grace,
and then Ms. Haba purports to automatically elevate the acting U.S. attorney by virtue
of being the first assistant U.S. attorney because the USA role was vacant.
Was there anything in my recitation of this series of events that was inaccurate?
I don't believe so, Your Honor, but with that said, having said and told us numerous times
how common practice has played into this, and I don't care about dates, I don't care about
names, can you come up with an example of any time that such a concatenation of events
has occurred with respect to the appointment of the United States Attorney?
So, you be the judge.
How do you think that's going to turn out?
Well, let me short-circuit this for a minute.
I am reasonably confident that the three-judge panel of the Third Circuit Court of Appeals
is going to find that Alina Haba was in violation of a statute illegally appointed to be the U.S. attorney for New Jersey.
If that's the case, everything she touched, including all of these indictments or anything else, is our invalid.
We call it void abearnitio.
It just doesn't apply to this particular guy's case, the drug dealer.
It applies to everybody else.
That's why there's been such chaos in New Jersey.
Trials have been delayed.
Sentencings have been delayed because the federal judges who all opposed Alina Haba and did not
appoint her for an extended period of time are like, yeah, we're not going forward with
anything.
Who's this representative in that office?
If the office is being headed by somebody that's illegal, then we're not going to respect
anybody that sits under that person.
Now, what the Washington, Todd Blanch's of the world, could have done, is countersigned,
which they started to do in the beginning, everything.
So it would say Lindsay, sorry, they would say Alina Haba and then countersigned somebody in
Washington that is validly confirmed by the Senate.
But they got tired of doing that, and there's too many motions.
There's thousands of defendants in the U.S. Attorney's Office.
There's also a civil division that handles.
civil cases, non-criminal cases. There's a lot going on. I think it's the fifth largest,
third or fourth largest, I think it's number five, the fifth largest U.S. Attorney's Office
in America. And it sits right, you know, next to New York and Manhattan. There's a lot of stuff
that goes on in New Jersey. And so that's what I think they're going to rule. Now, that's it.
After they rule, which, you know, give them a month. I think before Thanksgiving,
Alina Hab is going to be disqualified. And then there's going to be an appeal that's going to get
taken up to the United States Supreme Court, and they're going to have to decide, not just for
Lena Haba, but Lindsay Halligan. There's a new motion filed today against Lindsay Halligan.
We're talking about an illegal AF in the Midas Touch all day in the Eastern District of Virginia
case that she was appointed through a different way, but equally wrong. And so there's a new
motion by Comey's lawyers. There'll be a new motion by Letitia James's lawyers, all attacking the
way these people, Halligan and Lena Haba and others have been appointed.
We got one in New York, the Northern District of New York, John Sarkoni.
We got one in Vegas.
There's about six or eight different U.S. attorneys because Donald Trump refuses to go the normal route and just pick a normal person.
Even a Republican, normal person to be the U.S. attorney.
No, he's got to pick these firebrand, you know, pugilistic, partisan hack, maga, maga.
And even his own people in the Senate are like, yeah, no, they're not getting confirmed.
and they're getting blocked by the senators of their state.
The way it currently works and has for 200 years
is that the senators of your state
for which you are the U.S. attorney
in one of the districts or the whole state,
depending upon the size of the state,
has to both return, their blue slip,
which is their consent to let this nominee go to a vote.
Well, in New Jersey,
where Alina Haba is trying to be the U.S.
attorney, it's two Democrats. And of course, Alina Haba in her 120 days could have just kept her head
down, not been a complete, you know what, and gotten the job. But no, she demonstrated that she
was Alina Haba, right? She can't grow a brain in 120 days or ethics or morals or legal
acumen or prowess. So the two Kim and Booker were like, no. And so she never got her nomination. Now,
Let me put up on the board her social media posts, now that you've heard the story,
and now you'll see how she lied to the American people as she was coming out of the courtroom.
I'll read it to you, and then I'll tell you where she's lied.
I think you'll be able to figure out.
You can put it in comments.
I just left court advocating on behalf of 26 U.S. attorney candidates who have been denied the opportunity for a Senate hearing.
See, it's 26.
What's the first lie?
What's the first Pinocchio?
for Alina Haba, that she left court where she was advocating on behalf, she sat in a chair.
She sat in a chair next to Mr. Whitaker.
Okay?
And the last time she advocated the Second Circuit, she lost for Donald Trump and E. Jean Carroll
about privilege.
Okay?
So that's first.
Here's the second lie as she attacks the blue slip tradition.
To date, I've not had so much as a single conversation.
I don't know if anybody's told Alina Haba or is she.
she didn't figure out that she's not, her nomination's been pulled.
I think if the judges see this, they're going to be like, she doesn't even know how she got the job.
You heard Judge Smith talk about her nomination getting pulled.
To date have not had so much as a single conversation with New Jersey senators despite repeated outreach.
That's not how the process should work.
Still, that will not stop the Department of Justice from continuing the meaningful progress
we've made under this administration.
Is she watching the same Department of Justice as I am?
and the wrecking ball that Donald Trump has taken to it.
So I think that's bad for her as well.
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