Legal AF by MeidasTouch - 🚨 Trump Gets Tables Turned on Him as DOJ Headed to Trial

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

The very FIRST trial against the Trump Administration and his DOJ for vindictive prosecution and dismissal of an indictment brought against one of his political enemies starts in just a few days, and the Defense is going after top DOJ and Trump lawyers to have them testify in open court. Popok breaks down the new trial subpoenas issued to DOJ #2 Todd Blanche and others, and how Trump’s and Melania’s civil suits will force him and his wife to sit for depositions and provide documents he’d rather not provide, and his vindictive criminal cases will drag his top lawyers into trial. Check out the Popok Firm: https://thepopokfirm.com Subscribe:  @LegalAFMTN  Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The very first trial, evidentiary hearing, against the Trump administration, the Department of Justice for vindictive prosecution. It'll be the blueprint for all the other vindictive prosecution motions that have been or will be filed by the enemy list of Donald Trump starts on November 4 and 5. But we already got a lot of fireworks in the courtroom of Judge Crenshaw presiding over the Kilmer-Abrego-Garcia case brought by the U.S. government as a framed job to cover up for the fact that they illegally deported him and removed him to El Salvador, and it took a 9-0 vote of the Supreme Court to get him back. Even then, they only brought him back after they fabricated charges against the Kilmer-Abrego-Garcia about a traffic stop three years ago. And now the lawyers for Abrago Garcia preparing themselves appropriately for an evidentiary hearing, a trial in front of a federal judge, want witnesses, want documents, want evidence. They're a criminal defendant and defense team. They're entitled to these things. Anybody that watches my cousin Vinnie, the movie, knows that the defense is entitled to exculpatory and inculpatory information. And as of right now, they haven't received any of it.

So they did what any self-respecting criminal defense lawyer would do. And I know these defense lawyers, Sean Eckers out of New York. They subpoenaed Todd Blanche and others in leadership of the Department of Justice to come to the hearing to testify about vindictive prosecution because this case is set up in a very unique way. Because the judge, Judge Crenshaw, has already ruled in the last two weeks that it is more likely than not that vindictive prosecution was at the heart of bringing these charges against him. You have to look for the animus.

You look for the animus in way. words and deeds and actions and emails in statements made on Fox News. And in fact, the judge said Todd Blanche, the number two lawyer in the Department of Justice, Donald Trump's current and present and future. And past defense lawyer, he said some things on Fox News, which indicate to the judge that there is at least a presumption of vindictive prosecution. And now the defense has pounced on that and issued their trial subpoenas. I cover it all right here.

so excited. I cover it all right here on the Midas Dutch Network and for legal A.F. I'm Michael Popock. All right, let's dive then. How'd we get here? Abraigo Garcia was mining his own business. I think he was at a Home Depot or something in Maryland when he got picked up in a sweep, except he had an order in his pocket from an immigration judge in America that says he can't be sent to El Salvador. He was sent to El Salvador and 250 other human beings, men, to the torture prison, Sikot, in El Salvador. And it was illegal. It was illegal. It was illegal. It was at They did by the government that it was illegal. The Supreme Court called that illegal.

The Fourth Circuit twice called that illegal. And Judge Zinnis called that illegal. They finally, after several months, the government finally brought him back, but only after they trumped up some fake charges against them for human trafficking, transporting human beings in a van, apparently, off a traffic stop from three years ago, where he wasn't even cited for a lack of insurance. He was let go. And so at the bottom, you see the animal.

you see the animus, you see the hatred, you see Donald Trump's statements, you see Christy Nome statements, you see Pam Bondi statements, and you see Todd Blanche on Fox. In fact, the only thing that Judge Grenshaw seemed to focus on in his order where he set up the evidentiary hearing for November 4 and 5 were the statements made by Todd Blanche on Fox. So of course, Todd Blanche is going to get deposed or he's going to be up on the stand. Why wouldn't he be? The judge focused on it in his own motion. Let me show you a clip that we're talking about

that got the judge all excited. Here's the clip. Judge Bozberg's decision, which I thought was, you know, over the top, Supreme Court saying, you know, you've got to try to facilitate the return. So you're saying tonight that that warning of possible contempt charges against administration officials, none of that had anything to do with the investigation.

No, I mean, first of all, the Supreme Court stayed any contempt proceedings by Judge Bosberg. That case has been stayed. In this case, we had a judge in Maryland tell us that, oh, no, there's not any evidence that he's a member of MS-13. You had no right to deport him. And so what should we do as a Department of Justice? What a judge is accusing us of doing something wrong? We have an obligation to everybody, including you, to investigate it. And that's exactly what we did. And so the reason why he was returned and the facilitation that brought him back here is not a judge. It's an arrest warrant issue by a grand jury from the Middle District of Tennessee charging him with two counts of very serious charges. Now when we have things like that,

we have an entitlement, whether you're in criminal court or you're in civil court to get documents and information. We call it discovery. It's the same. Sometimes it's called disclosure, but we generally call it discovery. Criminal discovery, if you're a criminal defense. that the prosecution has to turn over all sorts of what we call Brady material, all sorts of things that either prove, tend to prove your guilt or your innocence. Everything, nothing gets withheld. Here, everything's being withheld. And on the civil side, if Donald Trump is a plaintiff or a defendant or he has Melania

threatened to sue people, then that opens the whole Pandora's box, right? It opens up everything. deposition's for Donald Trump. We'll talk about the civil side in a minute because there's many cases that Donald Trump has decided to bring during his administration, not waiting for him to leave, which subjects him to this type

of discovery and deposition under oath. Now, here's what the defense has told Judge Crenshaw, and I'm sure Judge Crenshaw's not too happy. He'll be pulling everybody together soon for a conference. But here's what Sean Hacker and the team for Abrago Garcia said. As of the

filing of this status report a couple of days ago, the government has not produced any discovery to the defense, responded to the defense's letter concerning potential witnesses, nor identified any other anticipated hearing witness. As a result, the defense is concerned. It will not have sufficient time for the government to collect the discovery, review the discovery, provide the discovery for any disputes to be resolved, all before November 4 and 5. Hey, everybody, Ben Mysellis here from the Midas Touch Network. I wanted to let you know about my podcast partner, Michael Popock's new law firm. It's called the Popock firm. Michael Popock's pursuing his dream of starting his own law firm, really based on the popular demand by all the

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or you can call 877 Popok A-F, P-O-P-O-K-A-F. So, 1-8-77 P-O-P-O-K-A-F. Give Michael Popok a call, and I'm really proud of you, Popak. Thanks for all the hard work you're putting in. The government has freaked out. They filed in their opposition to certain of the discovery, and they made a revelation here on footnote two of their filing. Indeed, it is clear.

government rights that defendant is not content to stop with this discovery. Well, they haven't gotten any discovery from you. No way to prepare for the hearing. On October 20th, defense counsel subpoenaed the Deputy Attorney General, Associate Deputy Attorney General, counselor to the Deputy Attorney General, as well as two HSI agents that testify at the evidentiary hearing. And then we're going to be filing a motion about that. Well, good luck.

The judge already saw the clip we just played. We brought the receipts about Todd Blanche. He is an important witness. They say, well, no, there's a guy named McGuire who's like the acting interim U.S. attorney in Tennessee. He'll do it. He'll talk about his role. That's not good enough.

We don't trust the government. There's no presumption of regularity, which is a doctrine where judges would normally say, let's cut to the chase. I generally believe the Department of Justice is following its Department of Justice manual, its principles of federal prosecution. and things are regular. Can't assume that here. Even the government says

nothing about this case is regular. They say it in their own filing. It says this is on page 8, government. Defendant's motion to compel should be denied. It is the rare case. I think we're in the rare case, aren't we? Where the defendant is entitled to any discovery at all

on a vindictive prosecution case. And the discovery sought here would be overbroad and highly damaging. You'd be highly damaging because they don't want to tell the truth that they are vindictively prosecuting Abrago Garcia. And I don't agree with it based on the law

that it is rare for there to be discovery related to vindictive prosecution. How do you prove the case without it? Now, I just interviewed Michael Wolfe, turning to civil side. Donald Trump has sued the New York Times for defamation. His wife has just threatened to sue Michael Wolfe, the journalist and chronicler of Epstein and Donald Trump, for billions of dollars of defamation.

But he sued her first in New York, just in the last several hours, in the last hours or so. And that opens the door for more discovery, more depositions, Melania under oath, Donald Trump under oath, Galane Maxwell under oath. You see where this is going? those in their inner circle under oath. In fact, we covered it in my interview. And here's a clip. The judgment that says you can't do this. And this process gives us now the right to call witnesses, subpoena power.

And those witnesses might very well, will very well, include Melania Trump and Donald Trump and therefore afford me the opportunity to, to really have an in-depth discussion with them under oath before a court reporter about their relationship with Donald Trump. With Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, with Jeffrey Epstein. Yes. So, I mean, Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein had this long, long, long friendship, really adjoined

by the hip friendship. So there will be a lot of questions. And there may be other witnesses called as well. Oh, yes. And anyone who might have had information about their relationship, Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, Melania Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and his circle, yes. They would be called Glenn Maxwell, couldn't you? Oh, he certainly could.

Even though she's in a Texas camp right now. Yes, I mean, I don't know what the procedure is, but see, but if she's, if she's, if she's, subpoenaed she has to testify yes you could call let me just say one other witness you could call paulo zompoly who is a agent of course who have introduced trump to milania of course um and and many others who i know who were who were involved in that in that circle right this this is a can of worms and don't trump is a giant can opener this is why presidents don't sue generally it's It's only happened a couple of times in history. Don't sue during their presidency because they don't want to be able to,

they don't want to have to testify or people in their families. It's usually protect my families. Don't go after my families. Forget that. Melani is threatening to use Donald Trump's own lawyer to go after people for phony claims of defamation. People get to defend themselves now. You can't say, well, I'm the president. You can't use the presidency as a sword to attack people in lawsuits and as a shield.

Oops, you can't but you. But I'm busy these days. days, you know, we'll have to wait until after I'm done. No, then dismiss the lawsuits. So I'm going to continue to follow it all as I do here on Legal AF on the Midas Touch Network and over on Legal AF YouTube. Hit the free subscribe button there. We now more than ever need your help, your defense, your protection from the Trump administration attacking Legal AF and Midas Touch. Keep us on the air. Keep the content coming. Legal AF YouTube, 10 new videos a day. Legal AF Substack and Substack Live, $6.77 cents a month to keep us on the air, so to speak.

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