Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump HAS TO PAY as Prosecutor SHUTS HIM DOWN

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

Trump’s $500 million he owes NY for fraud in the operation of his companies isn’t going anywhere as NY seeks to collect on it. NY Attorney General Leticia James isn’t afraid of Trump and his threats to jail her; she just fired back at Trump’s demand —comparing himself to Abraham Lincoln and George Washington — to throw the $500 million judgment in the trash can. Michael Popok who practices in NY describes the action. Get firearm security redesigned and save with BOGO the StopBox Pro AND 10% OFF @StopBoxUSA with code: LEGALAF at https://stopboxusa.com/LEGALAF #stopboxpod Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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have committed before he was even president, not when he was president. And I'm going to bring it all down for you with a new response by Judy Vail, the Deputy Attorney General for New York and how she's responded to John Sauer, who reminded everyone in his last writing to the Attorney General that he is the incoming Solicitor General for the United States. Not that any of that matters. I'm Michael Popak, Midas Touch Network, and Legal AF. Let's talk about the new letter we just got from the office of the attorney general

in which she ever so politely tells John Sauer, the lawyer for Donald Trump, soon to be the incoming likely solicitor general of the United States to go pound sand, that they are not going to dismiss the civil judgment, having nothing to do with the presidency, having everything to do with the Trump organization and their persistent fraud, as that term is used under a unique statute in New York that I practice in called 63-12 of the executive law, which allows the attorney general to stop persistent fraud of the operation of business. That was an 11-week bench trial by Judge Angoran after summary judgment already granted to the people of the state of New York against Donald Trump.

This is a case that Alina Habba helped handle. She's now the counselor to the president on the incoming Trump administration, but she lost almost every case she ever handled for Donald Trump. And now we've got the letter. I'm going to read it to you so that you know exactly what I'm talking about. First, let me frame it. Sauer for Trump sends a letter to the attorney general telling her that she should immediately vacate the judgment, the $450 million, which is up on appeal with the Appellate Division First Department

in New York, the intermediary appellate court. Get rid of it. Why? Because Abraham Lincoln wants her to. Because George Washington's farewell address compels her to because John F. Kennedy in his address at Harvard would require it to bring the country together, to unite the country, and to put down, to pound swords into plowshares to bring this country together in the only way that Donald Trump knows how to do.

Does that sound like the Donald Trump that you and I know? This John Sauer letter of this lofty oratory, you know, Abraham Lincoln's Thanksgiving Day address, George Washington's farewell speech, right, because on the Mount Rushmore of great Americans we're going to see Donald Trump nestled between George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and JFK? Come on. So she gets the letter and in there, he can't help himself, John Sauer, who had some success for Trump. I'm not going to take it away from him. He was successful twice in two appeals before the United States Supreme Court in favor of Donald Trump. Yes, he was, but he couldn't help himself but to remind her that he's going to be almost

threatening her. He's going to be the Solicitor General, the 10th Justice of the United States Supreme Court in a month or two. That has anything to do with it. So now we got the letter from Ms. Vail. Let me read it to you because I think it's not that long and I think you'll find it very interesting. So here we go. Let's take it one at a time here. Letter is dated December 9, 2024 to G. John D. John Sauer at James Otis Law Group in St. Louis, Missouri. Dear Mr. Sauer, I'm writing in response to your letter dated November 26, just before Thanksgiving. The office will not stipulate to vacate the final judgment already entered by Supreme Court, New York County in this action or otherwise seek to dismiss this action. As you know,

this is a civil enforcement action under Executive Law 6312 against the Trump Organization and its top executives for fraudulent and unlawful actions to misleadingly inflate Donald J. Trump's personal net worth in business transactions in order for him to obtain more favorable terms on loans and insurance policies than he otherwise would have received. This civil enforcement action was filed following a multi-year investigation. She went on to say that it also was the result of an 11-week bench trial before Judge Angoran, and that there is an appeal that's pending. She, on page one, says, your letter presents no basis

for this office to seek to vacate the final judgment or to dismiss this action. And then she continues. Let's continue. On page two. This Supreme Court decision did not impose any criminal sanctions on Trump. Here she's reminding them of two things. One, this is not a criminal action. This is a civil action. And you're already, Trump, participating in the appeal to try to knock down the $500 million judgment, and that doesn't seem to be impairing or impeding your office of the presidency because there's already case law both under Clinton versus

Jones involving Bill Clinton from 1997 and the recent Trump versus United States case that John Sauer participated in. There's the little dig, the little shiv at John Sauer. You want to be Solicitor General? Let me cite a case you were involved with and you should know better. So here's the office saying, by the way, under those two cases, civil lawsuits arising from unofficial conduct may proceed while the president is in office. So we're not going to, we're already at the judgment stage. We're only, only thing that's left is the appeal. So no, we're not gonna get rid of it because you want us to turn 500 million dollars in favor of the people

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do not impede the president's official duties in any way that violates the US Constitution. See Clinton, I like that one, 520 USC 705, and see Zervos, another case involving Donald Trump. In any event, Mr. Trump does not face any such litigation burdens here. The trial is over, final judgment has been rendered, and defendant's appeal to the First Department has been fully submitted and argued.

That was about 90 days ago. Mr. Trump's official duties will not be impeded while awaiting the First Department's decision, nor will his duties be impeded if further appeals to this action are filed. Those appeals will be handled primarily by his appellate lawyers, meaning not you, John Sauer, because you've been kicked upstairs to be Solicitor General. And any consultations Mr. Trump may have with those attorneys about appeals will not plausibly impose any unconstitutional burden. This is what I've been saying in other hot ticks, which is Donald Trump's sort of in

a box now because he's taken appeals of his civil suits. And at the same time, he's going to argue like all the Capitol police and Metro suits and Jan 6 suits against him for violation of the KKK Act and civil rights for those that were injured or maimed or disabled or worse during the attack on the Capitol, he's appealing all of those issues. So you can on one hand say, well, I can maintain an appeal and that doesn't impair or impede my presidential powers, and on the other hand say, dismiss these cases or stay these cases

for four years because I can't be bothered. And that's sort of what the Deputy Attorney General here, Judith Vail, is saying back to John Sauer, and you should know better. You want to throw in my face that you're going to be the Solicitor General of the United States? Let me throw a couple of cases back at your face, in your face that you were involved with, and you should know better. So the answer, sir, is good day. There is the door. Grab your hat. The New York is not going to rip up a $500 million judgment because Abraham Lincoln gave a Thanksgiving Day address or George Washington gave a farewell address.

We're all waiting for the day that Donald Trump gives a farewell address and be done with all of this. But we wanted to report right here on Legal AF and the Midas Dutch Network, I had been waiting for it. I knew that Letitia James, who's been mercilessly, vehemently attacked by MAGA and Donald Trump and lawyers around him, I've seen comments made by people like Mike Davis in Donald Trump's inner circle that they're going to put Letitia James's fat ass in jail. You've got Cash Patel in a book he called Gangsters in Government listing

Letitia James as somebody he's going to investigate in jail. And do you see her being fearful? Do you see her saying, oh, I'm quaking in my boots, you're going to investigate me? You may prosecute me? That's a badge of honor. It's a badge of honor. I mean, I've pushed to have all these people get immunity because I just think it's a way

that Joe Biden can avoid a lot of this. But if they don't want to, and they want to stand in the line of fire, Letitia James, I wouldn't, if I was a betting man, Letitia James versus Donald Trump, Letitia James all day long and twice on Sunday. She's going to be leading the charge, just to put a little marker here on this hot take. She, Letitia James, along with about 16 other attorney generals, but her in the lead with the California attorney general, are going to be leading the charge against Donald Trump every day, every week, filing lawsuits against his executive orders, against his attempts to deny birthright

citizenship to children who were born here. His efforts to deport people who will be killed if they return to their countries, separate families, put them in cages, fly migrants around, put them in detention and concentration camps, deny sanctuary city status to cities and states that want to protect the underprivileged and those who are disenfranchised. She is everything they try to do, take away Obamacare, try to cut entitlements. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security. She, Letitia James, remember her name.

She's gonna be fighting for you. We're fighting for her on Legal AF and the Midas Touch Network. So a couple of ways you can support this independent, no outside investor media network is follow all of our contributors, follow Legal AF. I'm doing a new show on Tuesday nights at 8 p.m. called Popak Live right here on Midas Touch at the intersection of law and politics. We've got our full-length podcast, which is Legal AF, and we've got the new channel, Legal AF, the YouTube channel, in collaboration with the Midas Touch Network,

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