Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump Official Stunned as Judge Readies Criminal Referral

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

In breaking news, Chief Judge Boesberg is still considering making a CRIMINAL REFERRAL against Homeland Security Sec Kristi Noem for giving the order to have 200 men flown to an El Salvadoran prison without due process, rbut not before he examines himself the DOJ Whistleblower Erez Reuveni and DOJ Assistant US Attorney Drew Ensign, who may have lied to Judge Boesberg in court. Michael Popok reports. Magic Spoon: Save $5 OFF your next order when you go to http://magicspoon.com/legalaf Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast⁠ Legal AF: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af⁠ MissTrial: ⁠https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial⁠ The PoliticsGirl Podcast: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast⁠ Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan⁠ Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen⁠ The Weekend Show: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show⁠ Burn the Boats: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats⁠ Majority 54: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54⁠ Political Beatdown: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown⁠ On Democracy with FP Wellman: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman⁠ Uncovered: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a case involving 200 Venezuelan sent to El Salvador without due process by the Trump administration, on an order by Christy Noem, are we one step closer to Christy Noem being sent to prison or for criminal prosecution by a federal judge? Well, I have a new order of Chief Judge Bozberg where he posits that while he doesn't currently have enough information at his disposal to determine whether Christy Noem willfully violated his court order to turn the point. planes back around and not fly to El Salvador, he's going to do some more fact-finding, and at the present time, a referral for prosecution would be, not out of the question, would be premature. When does premature become mature? That's what I want you to know here on Midas Dutch Network and LegalAF on Michael Popock. This all arises out of a case we refer to as JGG has to do with 200

Venezuelans who were originally shipped without due process to El Salvador's Cicot prison to get them away in the middle of the night from federal jurisdiction. It was stopped by the American Civil Liberties Union and other groups who ran into court and got Judge Bozberg in an afternoon hearing on the 15th of March to ground the planes. And he told Drew Ensign, the lawyer for the Department of Justice, ground those planes, tear down those runways. Except Drew Ensign either didn't care. or the Department of Justice clearly didn't care

or Homeland Security because the planes kept flying. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a classic example of contempt of a court order. That's called contumacious conduct. Now, for the last five or six months, the case was stuck in appeals world. It's now unstuck. And the Bozberg, chief judge of the D.C. federal trial court

is moving forward with his determination, if they he's already determined that there's probable cause probable cause that there was criminal contempt that was committed by the trump administration now he knows it's christie gnome because they filed an admission just a few days ago in which they threw christie gnome under the bus because the judge said who made the decision who gave the code red they said it was santiago no it was christie gnome and and so he said fine submit an affidavit from christie gnome about why she made that decision. A couple days ago, she submitted this ridiculous two-paragraph affidavit under oath in which she said, there was a hearing. They told me about the hearing, but they told me about it

lend the night. And then my lawyers told me, and I didn't know and I gave the order. It's like, no, that's not going to do it, Christy. And when I saw those declarations from her, from Todd Blanche, from Joe Mazara, who's the General Counsel for Homeland Security, my first reaction and I did a hot take on it was, uh-oh. They're just told off the judge, told me go F-off. And as a result, he is now going to have to have a fuller hearing, or more fulsome hearing, as we like to say. So he said out loud, I want to speak to Erez Rivenny.

Eresruveni, to continue my movie buff pop culture references, is sort of like Kaiser Sozi, if you know what I'm talking about, with the usual suspects. Eros Rivenny was a lawyer for the Department of Justice who got fired for telling the truth. And he prepared and provided to Congress a 30-page whistleblower statement in which he said that Amel Bovey,

who is now on the Third Circuit Court of Appeals being hidden there by Donald Trump, when he was the acting number three in the Department of Justice, gave the command to the litigation, immigration litigation lawyers for the Department of Justice, but they're there to tell judges to F off. In fact, in case you forgot Erez, Ravetti,

here's Erez on 60 Minutes. At the beginning of the second Trump administration, you were promoted again. That's right. Very soon into the administration, I was selected to be the acting deputy director of the immigration section, overseeing about 100 attorneys

in every case that arose in the federal district courts. But it was the very day of that promotion, Friday, March 14th, that he and others were called to a fateful meeting with Amel Bovi, President Trump's newly appointed number three at the Justice Department, who was once Trump's criminal defense attorney. And we were told at this meeting that over the weekend, the president of the United States would be signing a proclamation, invoking something called the Alien

Enemies Act. This is a wartime law from 1798, invoked three times in the nation's history, during the War of 1812, World War I, and World War II. The Alien Enemies Act allows rapid expulsion from the U.S. of the citizens of enemy nations during a war. But without a declared war, Trump used it against more than 100 Venezuelans that the government said were terrorists. They were to be denied their right to be heard by a judge.

Ruvani says Bovi expected a challenge. Bovy emphasized those planes need to take off no matter what. And then after a pause, he also told all in attendance, and if some court should issue an order preventing that, we may have to consider telling that court, you. And when you heard that, you thought what? It felt like a bomb had gone off.

Here is the number three official using expletives to tell career attorneys that we may just have to consider disregarding federal court orders. And here's Emil Bovey, who's trying to get the job as a Third Circuit Court of Appeals judge, denying that he gave that statement, although curiously basically saying, you can't recall exactly at that moment, like he's used the F word on numerous occasions before. Here's his back and forth with Adam Schiff. Play the clip. In the complaint, it says, Bovay stated that DOJ would need to consider telling the court's

fuck you and ignoring any such court order. Did you say anything of that kind in the meeting? Senator, I have no recollection of saying anything of that kind. To the extent I use the... Wouldn't you recall, Mr. Beauvais, if you said or suggested during a meeting with Justice Department lawyers, maybe they should consider telling the court, fuck you, it seems to me that would be something you'd remember unless that's the kind of thing you say frequently. Well, I've certainly said things encouraging litigators at the department to fight hard for valid positions that we have to take in defense of our clients. And if you frequently suggested that they say, fuck you and ignore court orders, is that also

something you frequently do, such you might not remember doing it in this occasion? No, and as I explained, I have never directed. So did you or did you not make those comments during that meeting? Which comments, Senator? You really need me to repeat it? Did you suggest, as Mr. Ruvani wrote, that DOJ would need to continue. consider telling the courts, fuck you and ignore any such court order? I did not suggest that there would be any need to consider ignoring court orders.

At the point of that meeting, there were no court orders to discuss. Well, did you suggest telling the courts fuck you in any manner? I don't recall. You just don't remember that. That guy. You know, that nostalgic feeling of sitting at the breakfast table as a kid and pouring a giant bowl of cereal that just tasted amazing? Well, Magic Spoon has reinvented that feeling with cereal and treats that bring back the flavors you love,

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ensign lied to judge uh... bowsberg that he either knew he knew the planes had already taken off. He did not tell his superiors or he lied and told the judge that he had. And I think Drew Ensign's in a lot of trouble. One of the reasons he's been moved off the case, but now he's coming back. Drew Ensign's also the lawyer who Judge Bosberg told early on in the case, hey, Drew, Mr. Ensign, you only got your reputation in this courtroom. I wouldn't sully it or ruin it over these issues. You only have your reputation for telling the truth. You know, you only have it for a short a period of time until you ruin it. So now Drew Ensign is being called in. Erisruvetti is being called in. So here's what the judge has said. Let me read to you from the

order, which is up on, which is up on substack for illegal AF as well. In response to the court's order of November 28, the government has submitted cursory declarations. That's not a good thing. From Secretary Christine Nome and the attorneys then at the Department of Justice who advised her about her making the decision to continue the transfer of custody after their temporary restraining order was issued by the judge. As this declaration does not provide enough information for the court to determine whether her decision was a willful violation of the court's order,

the court cannot, at this juncture, find probable cause that are actions constitute a criminal contempt. So a referral for prosecution would be premature. But the court believes that it's necessary. to hear witness testimony to better understand the bases of the decision. So he's ordered, Eros Rivenny, come on down, December 15th, 2025 at 9.30 a.m. You're giving testimony in live court. It says, plaintiff shall attempt to secure the presence of Erez Ravani for testimony.

It's not going to be hard. They'll serve a subpoena. Eras Ravani used to work in the Department of Justice. He now works a democracy forward. I don't think the ACLU is going to have problems, problems getting the democracy forward. to cooperate and bring Erez Reveni in. The government shall produce true and signed on the following day. Oh, legal alert from the ACLU is going to have a field day,

cross-examining his counterpart at the Department of Justice. Along with Judge Bosberg, it says both sides shall appear in person and will have the opportunity to question witnesses. See, the judge plans to do his own inquiry. Yeah? Then he's going to turn it over to the ACLU and the Department of Justice. Yeah? This is going to be a S show of epic proportion against the Trump administration who have been

effing with Judge Boseberg for too long, and now they're going to find out because somebody may be going to jail and her name may be Christy Gnome. We will follow it all, as we always do on Midas Touch without blowing smoke or sunshine. Hit the subscribe button on Legal A-F YouTube, not just the podcast, the YouTube. Oh, we're achingly close to one million subscribers to get us ready for 2026, the midterms, and beyond. Be a part of it. Find out if you may have forgotten. Who could remember yesterday today what I had for breakfast? Go see if you're a subscriber. It's all for free. If not, hit that subscribe button. Come join us on LegalAF substack as well.

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