Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump Official Trapped by his own Epstein Lies

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

In breaking news, Trump’s embattled Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick has to stop his day job of crushing the hopes and dreams of the American People and wrecking the economy, to testify (behind closed doors, of course) about the true nature of his business, charitable, and social relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, after he got caught in a massive cover-up following his own podcast appearance. Popok explains what the only true path to justice is for the Epstein Survivors, and recaps the giant scandal hole Lutnick will be hard-pressed to get himself out of. IQ Bar: Text LEGALAF to 64000 to get 20% off all IQBAR products, plus FREE shipping. Message and data rates may apply. Subscribe:  @LegalAFMTN  Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show The Ken Harbaugh Show: https://meidasnews.com/tag/the-ken-harbaugh-show Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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For less. Give AncestryDNA.A. Today. Offer ends May 10th. Terms apply. Trump has learned after 17 months that the indelible stench of the child sex trafficking scandal involving Jeffrey Epstein and his connectivity to it and the cover-up about it can't be washed away. The American people have already made up their minds. It's baked into the polling about Donald Trump and his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and Galane Maxwell. But it continues to be important that the survivors and the victims obtain justice.

Now, justice, the only true justice is in the form of a special counsel being appointed who is independent from the corrupted and captured Department of Justice and Donald Trump, who investigates on behalf of the 1,200 victims, the three or 400 predators, and follows those facts, not just spoon fed by the Trump administration in the dump of the Epstein files, but with subpoena power to go after information and documents that are being withheld and redacted. Today, we've got the Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik, who I used to work for, full disclosure. I was the global head of litigation for a company of his. It seems like a lifetime ago. But Howard Lutnik is now going to have to explain himself under oath, although just as cowardly as the rest of the MAGA and Trump administration. He's doing it behind closed doors with the Oversight Committee, an oversight committee that says on one hand that they are in support of the dignity, injustice for the survivors, and yet they do

nothing about it. They've killed the oversight committee hearings. They're letting the men go behind closed doors. We'll have to get a transcript later on about Howard Lutnik's own inability to tell the American people the truth

about his relationship with his adjoining wall next door neighbor in New York, Jeffrey Epstein. This is a scandal of his own making because of his refusal to level with the American people. Let's remember that Howard Lutnik is not only the Commerce Secretary and one of the brains, and that word's doing a heavy lift behind the failed tariff policies of Donald Trump, which have wrecked the economy. But he was also the co-chair

of the presidential transition team when Trump won the election before he came into office. He and Susie Wiles were the ones in charge of vetting all of the candidates for office. Who vetted Howard Lutnik and his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein? And then when the clamor of the public and reporting on Legal A.F and Amidas touch grew so great and so loud that he felt he had to go on and try to absolve himself, magical thinking came over him. Maybe nobody will know about the emails that Jeffrey Epstein and I exchanged about a visit to the island years after he was convicted of child sex crimes. And now he's been caught.

James Comer, a MAGA to the core, is trying to both act like he's a supporter of the victims and the survivors and find a way to Curry Favre with the Trump administration with this Oversight Committee testimony today. I've got some insight here. I'm going to provide for you on Midas Touch and on Legal AF YouTube channel. Take a minute. Hit the free subscribe button on both.

Now, here's the truth that we now know. Howard Lutnik lived directly next door to Jeffrey Epstein when Epstein was in the midst of his child sex trafficking scheme. To try to absolve himself of any culpability or connectivity, Lutnik went on Miranda Devine, a podcast, very little people watch, not Webby Award winning, run by Rupert Murdoch's New York Post. It's where a lot of MAGA and cabinet members go when they want to do like a confessional or absolve themselves or something.

They go on Stephen Miller's wife's podcast, nobody watches and Katie Miller or they go on Miranda Devine. And he went on on his own. Nobody asked him to. Legal AF didn't demand that he go on the podcast. And he tried to explain how in 2005, which is three years before Epstein

took a plea deal on a child prostitution charge. So child sex abuse charge. Three years before he made a decision with his wife that the guy was gross, having met him, having seen a massage table at the dining room of his townhouse, and I said I would never be that man ever again, all a lie. Played that clip, and then I'll tell you what part of it's a lie. My wife and I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgust in person ever again. Did you inferred? Did you infer that fact make the visit to Jeffrey Epstein's private island. I did have lunch with him as I was on a boat going across on a family vacation.

All of it. So the way to put it. All of it. He was in a charitable relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, having asked him and gotten a $50,000 donation for United Jewish Appeal that was fetting Howard Lutnik as man of the year, one of the men of the year at a banquet. And that was in 2014, 2015, okay? He vacationed with him or lunched with him on his island,

Little Singh John Island, now known as Petto Island, years, years after Epstein took a public charge, it wasn't private, it wasn't secret, Miami Herald following the story all along on a child sex, a child prostitution charge. Okay? This was before the Fed swooped in and finally tried to bring him to justice

before he hanged himself. So years, later, not only does he go based on emails that were dumped out by the Trump administration, not only does Howard Lutnik go to the island, but in his own hand, he lists in an email to Epstein's people the ages of his preteen and teenage children after he knew that Epstein was convicted of a child endangerment and prostitution charge. You list, hey, I'm coming with my daughter who's nine and another couple and their children. I mean, honestly. And of all the islands that you're transiting through with your yacht and your nannies and the other couple and all the children,

you just got to stop off at Petto Island to have lunch with Jeffrey Epstein, the guy that you told Miranda Devine and the public that you stopped having any contact with since 2005, nine, ten years later, you got to have lunch there. They can't make lunch on the yacht. They can't stop off at another island. So charity, lunches. Then, you know, Epstein and Lutnik are collaborating on trying to stop a local museum from expanding and taking away their, I don't know, their view of Central Park. I don't even know. Then there's, they're in business together.

There's a company that Canter Fitzgerald Howard Lutnik's family office used to own called Adfin. And you know who another investor in AdFinn was with a signature line? Jeffrey Epstein, all after 2005, which also begs the question, why was Lutnik so close to Epstein if he also believed he was the world's greatest blackmailer? You remember this clip on the podcast? Play it. The guy's gross. This was not, oh, the deep nuance of Howard Lutnik. This guy's gross.

Right. So how come Bill Gates and all these other people? people could hang around him and not see what you saw? Or did they see it and ignore it? No, they participated. Right. That's what his MO was. You know, get a massage, get a massage.

And what happened in that massage room, I assume was on video. This guy was the greatest blackmailer ever. Blackmail people. That's how he had money. Talk about lack of judgment at the very least. And then, of course, Lutnik, every time he goes before a Senate bank. committee hearing or another committee and all he wants to do is talk about his stuff related to the commerce department like all the taxpayer dollars he's misspent investing in companies failing companies to try to prop them up

you know all the misguided things he's done like letting spirit air go out of business along with their 17 000 employees he just wants to talk about that but no he's got to come and often comes get this, with his wife, Alison Lutnik, sitting behind him as one of his advisors. Don't do that. Don't, especially when you're talking about a child sex trafficking scheme. Don't bring your wife to work to sort of be a public face of it. You know, it didn't work for Elliot Spitzer when he had the sex scandal, when he had his wife next to him, didn't work on the good wife, the television show on CBS.

Don't bring your wife to defend you. Okay, you're the Commerce Secretary. You've got the big name card in front of you. And yet here he is having to answer for it just about two weeks ago, before he goes in later today or this week with the Oversight Committee hearing. Play the clip. Secretary Lutnik, why did you lie to the New York Post about your relationship with Jeffrey Epstein?

Oh, I did hear that. Please don't repeat your gracious offer to speak behind closed doors, not under oath, without the ability of this committee to question you. The American people wants to know. Why did you lie about your relationship with Epstein? House Oversight Committee, and I have agreed. We are the appropriate. Reclaiming my time, I do not accept that answer.

We've heard that one. We are our own committee. We have our own reason to test your credibility and veracity. Please answer the question. Why did you lie to the post? I have voluntarily agreed to spend the time and talk about it. I reclaim the time. Let the record reflect you're dodging the question.

The cover-up continues. You know what? In your conversations with the president, is the president concerned about your continued relationships that you had with Mr. Epstein, as recently as 2018? I'm not going to discuss conversations I have with the president. That is not something I'm going to do. If you remember in that interviewer, you said you would never be in the room with him socially for business or even philanthropy.

President Trump has just fired three cabinet secretaries, three women, Christy Noem, Pam Bondi, Lorry Chavez-Durimer. If President Trump has even a shred of concern about accountability for Jeffrey Epstein's enabler's, he would fire you too. Beyond Adfin, what other financial ties do you have to Jeffrey Epstein? As I said, I'm going to answer all these questions. Beyond ADFIN, what other financial ties? You're the Commerce Secretary. We have a right to ask this question and get an answer. Again, I'm not going to spend the budget day discussing something I've set aside time to spend on this topic.

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That's legal AF to 64,000 message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Now, he's walking in today, and I was going to do it as like a silent video, but you can hear reporters going after him. on Epstein play this is this is like real time Lutnik walking in to the closed door deposition that he's giving today thank god the Democrats are inside of there as well and the question's being shattered at him play it why did you know anything about this play of course you know

you got the president We're out of the way, guys. Out of the way. And the way. You're going to throw the relationship. Excellent. Why are you to follow with the chair's reaction on this on this one? It's not beautiful.

And then Comer, who's the MAGA chair of the committee, has the balls and the brass ones, to look the survivors and the victims in the eye and say, he's just doing, he hopes this brings a measure of dignity and justice to them. Here's the clip of James Comer trying to placate a group of people who have been maligned and continued to seek justice and having denied by the Republicans. Play the clip. Went to the island with his family with Mr. Epstein. He didn't seem to cut off his communications with Epstein after his conviction. Are those some of your questions? Yeah, yeah.

Those are the questions. I think that's the questions everyone would ask. I don't know how many more questions there are. This is something that many of the members wanted to hear from Lutnik. And I'll add he's come in voluntarily. So I appreciate that. Hopefully we'll have some more answers. We haven't talked to too many people that have admitted they've been on the island.

So it's my understanding he wasn't on the island very long. He was there with his wife and kids. But we'll see what he says. But this is pretty extraordinary to bring in a cabinet secretary for something. Yeah. And look, I've been on the other side. committee 10 years and there's never been a chairman bring in cabinet secretaries of their own party. And this, we have Lutnik coming in today. We have Pam Bondi coming in in a couple of weeks.

So I think people can see that this is a bipartisan investigation. We're really sincerely trying to get the truth. Our goal is to provide justice for the victims and hopefully today will be helpful. Now let's talk about what the only true path of justice looks like in this case. It's not the angry call for victims and survivors to be victimized again, especially if they don't want to be, to testify in public about their sex of having been sexually abused. That's Melania Trump's too smart by half call. Remember that in early part of April where she angrily denied. being involved with the child sex trafficker. Why was she so angry?

And then calls for justice in the form of forcing the women to testify under oath in public? Oh, sure. The men, like Howard Lutnik and others, they get to go behind closed doors. But the victims, oh no, they have to testify like at some sort of sensational show, you know, for everybody's amusement,

about what happened to them. Why is that required? In what world or what, part of history has the victim of a crime had to testify in Congress as part of getting justice? I mean, seriously. So that's not justice, okay? I'm not even sure how many of the victims and survivors would take advantage of it would do that. I would say take advantage of it would do it. Some might, but a lot of them don't want to be retramatized. There's only one true path. This is the way. there's the appointment of an independent special counsel,

independent from the corrupted and captured Department of Justice, independent from the FBI, who hires their own investigators, a former well-respected federal judge. I can think of a few of them. Judge Gleason would be a very good former Judge Gleason. There's a number of former federal judges who I would put in charge of this.

You know, they then build their own team, Like the, think of the movie The Untouchables. They go get their own group, right? They don't use the state troopers who are on the take. They get, or the FBI, they get their own people. And they don't just rely on the 3 million pages that were self-selected by Donald Trump and spoon-fed to the American people, calling it the Epstein Library. They have independent powers of subpoena.

And they can subpoena whatever they need from, wherever they need it, including from within the government, including from Donald Trump. including from Melania Trump. And yes, they can use the 3 million pages, but that's only the tip of the iceberg. And then they do their investigation over the next couple of years. It'll take that long or maybe longer.

And they follow every fact to wherever it leads. You have 1,200, at least 1,200 Epstein survivors and victims. Let's just do the math, assuming that a powerful, depraved man violated and sexually abused more than, one of them, you're looking at 400 to 500 predators, some of whom may not be named Donald Trump, bring them to justice. That's the only path to justice. All this other stuff, you know, judges overseeing the Epstein files and victims having to testify and sing for their own justice. No, that's not it.

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