Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump Scolded in Open Court after SCOTUS Ruling

Episode Date: July 10, 2026

Taking its signal from Justice Kagan’s dissent in a recent immigration case, an Ohio Federal Judge has used Trump and Vance’s frequent use of racial tropes and racist comments, such as calling cer...tain countries “shit holes” (spelled out in the judge’s order) and falsely claiming Haitians were eating our pets, to block an order that denied federal benefits like green cards and work permits to people from underprivileged countries. Popok examines Judge Marbley’s decision and how SCOTUS dissents end up being powerfully used by other district court judges to prove their point. Quo: Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to https://Quo.com/LEGALAF Subscribe:  @LegalAFMTN  Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show The Ken Harbaugh Show: https://meidasnews.com/tag/the-ken-harbaugh-show Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:53 judge appointed by Clinton, who's called out Donald Trump and J.D. Vance's racism and has effectively, this administration, like the campaign before it, has been based on going after black and brown people while trying to benefit Scandinavian immigration and those from white South Africa. Yes, Donald Trump's own racist words, clip by clip by clip, recited by the judge, and also reference to a dissenting opinion written by Katanji Brown Jackson, in which the shithole country comment was also reflected there as well. People ask me, why does it matter when Katanji Brown Jackson or Sotomayor or Kagan write dissents? They're on the losing end because those dissents can be used by federal judges to support their own position.
Starting point is 00:01:46 They speak to a broader audience. They speak to history. They speak to law students and people that want to get into this business and future judges. And they are important. You're important. I'm Michael Popok. You're on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal A.F. Let's get to the new decision that just came out in the case called John Doe versus Joseph Edlo.
Starting point is 00:02:08 John Doe, because they don't want to identify themselves, they're worried that they're going to be outed or somehow retaliated against, by the federal government. And I love Judge Marbley for a number of reasons. One has one of the greatest judge names of all times. Secondly, he just calls it like he sees it, including having clip after clip after clip referenced in footnotes about Donald Trump's animus towards black and brown people. He's effectively calling Donald Trump a racist and that that infects and animates his policies.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Here's what he says on page seven. This order I posted in legal AF substack for you to review. In sum, the judge says, both the president and vice president have publicly and repeatedly expressed outright hostility toward immigrants both before and after the 2024 presidential election. Their ire appears focused on immigrants from countries in the Caribbean, South America, Africa, and Asia. As the Supreme Court just observed in a case called Mullen, actually this one, a Mullen case at the Supreme Court, written by Justice Kagan,
Starting point is 00:03:19 President Trump's comments have broadly denigrated countries and malign certain groups of immigrants, including Haitians, claiming that they are poisoning the blood of the United States. The judge continues, this general hostility to immigration contrast with an apparent interest in and preference for the migration of white people. Aside from a stated desire for more Scandinavian immigration, President Trump has sought to welcome white South Africans,
Starting point is 00:03:48 and he has an executive order, to that effect. And the judge is saying, I'm not going to ignore that and statements about shithole countries. In fact, here's Donald Trump attacking those other countries in his, you know, while he was on the campaign trail.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Let's play the clip. If Kamala gets four more years, the entire country will be turned into a migrant camp, and that's what's happening. Millions and millions of people, When I win on November 5th, the migrant invasion ends, and the restoration of our country begins. And then you have the whole cats and dogs
Starting point is 00:04:30 are being eaten by Haitians thing, which Donald Trump repeated at a debate with Kamala Harris, even though J.D. Vance basically admitted he made it up in order to get media attention. Here's J.D. Vance admitting that he made it up to get media attention. He didn't really believe, and dogs were being eaten, play it.
Starting point is 00:04:51 The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and I started talking about cat memes. If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm gonna do, Dana, because you guys are completely letting Kamala Harris coast. You just said that this is a story that you created.
Starting point is 00:05:14 So the eating dogs and the past thing is not... We are creating, we are, Dana, it comes from firsthand accounts from my constituents. I say that we're creating a story, meaning we're creating the American media focusing on it. I didn't create 20,000 illegal migrants coming into Springfield, thanks to Kamala Harris' policies. Her policies did that, but yes, we created the actual focus that allowed the American media to talk about this story and the suffering caused by Kamala Harris' policies. And yet that didn't stop Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:05:47 as the judge in this opinion noted, from saying it during the debate with Kamala Harris. Play the clip. We're a failing nation, and it happened three and a half years ago, and what's going on here, you're going to end up in World War III
Starting point is 00:06:01 just to go into another subject, what they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States. And a lot of towns don't want to talk. It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield.
Starting point is 00:06:16 A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats. They're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country, and it's a shame. As far as rallies are concerned, as far as the reason they go is they like what I say. They want to bring our country back. They want to make America great against. A simple phrase, make America great again. She's destroying this country, and if she becomes
Starting point is 00:06:52 president, this country doesn't have a chance of success. Not only success, we'll end up being Venezuela on steroids. I just want to clarify here. You rig up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there had been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community. The last thing people on television. Let me just say here, this is the People on television say my dog was taken and used for food. So maybe he said that and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager. I'm not taking this from television.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I'm taking it from the city manager. The dog was eaten by the people that went there. Again, the Springfield City Manager says there's no evidence of that. Running a business means you're always reachable until you're not. And the moment you missed that call, that text, that follow up, a competitor is the one that picks it up. That's why today's episode is brought to you by quote. Spelled QUO, the business phone system built so you never miss an opportunity.
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Starting point is 00:08:21 F. That's QUO.com slash legal a.F. Now let's get to the shithole countries. I'm sorry I have to curse. It's in a Supreme Court decision. It's written in this particular opinion as well. Let's go to page 43 over to page 44, shall we? Generally, impropriety need not be found for showing a reasonable delay. The judge is trying to ask.
Starting point is 00:08:46 analyze whether there is a delay in the process in order to harm or retaliate against these people. Normally, you don't look to see if there's any kind of bad action or bad intent. But here, the judge says, the evidence of the impropriety lurking behind the immigration department's inaction is on display for all to see. Indeed, the public record is on page 44 is replete with direct evidence of the administration's hostility towards immigrants. with the possible exception of Scandinavians and Afrikaners. Consider the extraordinary contents, tone, and nature of public statements made by the executive branch. These statements indicate an outright hostility to foreign nationals and immigrants from certain countries,
Starting point is 00:09:33 predominantly countries in Africa, the Middle East, and the Caribbean that the administration deems to be undesirable, or in the words of President Trump, shithole countries. In fact, just to remind you that he actually said it, the judge gave us a footnote for it as well. Here's a clip. I've also announced a permanent pause on third world migration, including from hellholes like Afghanistan, Haiti, Somalia, and many other countries. I didn't say shit all you did.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Remember I said that to the senators? They came in, the Democrats. They wanted to be bipartisan. So they came in and they said, this is totally off the record. Nothing mentioned here. We want to be honest because our country was going to hell. And we had a meeting. And I say, why is it we only take people from shithole countries, right? Why can't we have some people from Norway, Sweden, just a few? Let us have a few. From Denmark. Do you mind sending us for you people? Send us some nice people. Do you mind?
Starting point is 00:10:52 but we always take people from Shimalia, places that are a disaster, right? Filthy, dirty, disgusting, ridden with crime. It's so bad in terms of the language that Donald Trump has used that the court observed that the Supreme Court has said the language is so out of bounds that even the lawyers at the United States Supreme Court
Starting point is 00:11:15 for the Department of Justice would not, and the majority that voted for Donald Trump on the Supreme Court would not. use those terms. Here's what it says on page 45. Or as the Supreme Court observed in Mullen, President Trump has made statements that broadly denigrate countries or malign certain groups of immigrants, such as Haitians who have come to the United States. That puts it mildly. Judge, the judge says, as the Mullen dissent by Kagan explains, the evidence of racial animus is there plain to see in the president's statements which the majority
Starting point is 00:11:51 and the government's lawyers cannot even bear to repeat. These statements include, this is from a Supreme Court decision, repellent and racially inflected statements about certain shithole countries whose nationals are poisoning the blood of the United States. I mean, this is literally blood libel against a group of people. Meanwhile, then Secretary Nome made statements
Starting point is 00:12:18 that expressed antipathy toward travelers from countries covered by a renewed travel ban or made derogatory comments about immigration and its effects. While Mullen ultimately concluded those statements were unlikely to show that race was a motivating factor in the termination of the temporary protective status and thus found that Haitian foreign nationals would not be entitled to interim relief.
Starting point is 00:12:43 These statements have a different valence in this case where the issue is one of possible impropriety in agency and action. In other words, he's saying, when they were analyzing whether temporary protective status could be terminated by the Trump administration, all right, then maybe, maybe in particular, that set of facts was not relevant. It's relevant to the judge here, to judge Marbley here. He's issued a preliminary injunction. He's found the Administrative Procedures Act has been violated, that they're likely to succeed on the merits, and has ordered a list for this group in front of him that those benefits, green card processing and work authorization. processing start flowing. I just can't believe in 2026 I've got to talk about shithole
Starting point is 00:13:29 countries coming out of the mouth of Donald Trump. But of course, as I said, it would eventually make its way into court cases. Yet another example, and we have thousands of them of Donald Trump and his own words being used in cases against him in a losing cause. I'm going to continue to follow it all right here on legal A.F. Hit the free subscribe button at LegalAF YouTube channel as well. Come over to our LegalAF substack where you can read this 69 page opinion on your own. Until my next report, this is Michael. Can't get your fill of Legal AF. Me neither. That's why we form the Legal AF substack. Every time we mention something in a hot take, whether it's a court filing or a oral argument,
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