Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump Shut Down by Judge in Epstein Cover-Up
Episode Date: July 24, 2025Trump’s puppet theater of trying to convince the American people that he is in favor of full transparency concerning the Epstein pedophile conspiracy which Trump is at the heart of, has hit a major ...roadblock, as a Florida federal judge has denied his request to release the 2005 Epstein grand jury transcripts, as two NY judges consider a similar request. Michael Popok, who knows the Florida judge well, fits all the puzzle pieces together between the 2 NY federal judges, the 1 Florida federal judge, Ghislane Maxwell’s attorney, Alan Dershowitz, Trump’s former secretary of labor, and the DOJ’s Todd Blanch. You will want to sit down for this one. Allermi: For 60% off your order, head to https://Allermi.com and use code LEGALAF. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Donald Trump puppet theater to try to convince people that he really is about
transparency of the Epstein pedophile coverup that he's the center of has hit a major roadblock.
There's three judges, two in New York and one in Florida, who are deciding whether they're going
to release the grand jury transcripts, which Donald Trump has redefined as being the quote,
unquote Epstein files when they are not the complete Epstein files and making a
great show of having had the Department of Justice run into various courts to
try to obtain the grand jury transcripts of people who testified
before the grand jury against Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's co-conspirator in Epstein in various places. And now they've had one
judge now in Florida, Judge Rosenberg, who I know well in the West Palm Beach
division of the Southern District of Florida, she's made her ruling and she's
not going to be unsealing the transcripts that were the that were the
result of a Florida federal grand jury in West Palm Beach
back in 2005 against Epstein. What's still pending are decisions by two other judges in New York,
Judge Engelmeyer and Judge Berman about the Maxwell prosecutions and the New York Epstein's
prosecutions, but they're likely to go the same way.
Michael Popak, you're on Midas Touch,
and let me unpack this and do an explainer
of what's going on.
First, let's rip the cover off the ball.
This is all a charade.
Donald Trump doesn't want these records to be released,
and they're not even the entirety of the records.
What we want when we say we want the Epstein files
is we want the results of the search warrants
that were executed on Maxwell, on Epstein, on others.
We want what was in his safe
that Michael Wolff, the journalist, saw.
And he's gonna be back on Legal AF this week
to talk about it.
We want what was in Epstein's house, in his files,
in his computers, in his laptops,
and his records and business records,
same thing for Ghislaine Maxwell.
Sure, I'd like to take a look at what people said
in grand jury testimony,
but that's not the entirety of the file.
And in order to get grand jury materials,
you've got to comply with the federal rules.
And even Donald Trump's Department of Justice knows that asking federal judges to release grand juries, secret grand jury material, even after people have been convicted or have died, has to follow a certain rule and they don't follow the rule. So there were three simultaneous motions that were filed,
one before Judge Engelmeyer,
who took over the Ghislaine Maxwell case,
because her original judge,
who presided over her conviction and her sentencing,
got appointed to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals.
That's Judge Nathan.
So we've got Judge Engelmeyer.
We've got Judge Berman,
who has taken over the case
and presided over the case related to Epstein's prosecution.
Remember, he died mysteriously or not,
right while he was about to stand trial.
And there was a grand jury related to that
in 2019 grand jury material.
There's a 2020 all New York grand jury about Maxwell,
a 2005 grand jury in Florida.
Those are the three grand juries that we are talking about.
And each judge has done something differently.
Engelmeyer and Berman basically said,
we need more time, more material.
We want more briefing.
We want to see the position statements of Maxwell
and the estate of Epstein who's ever representing them
about whether we should or shouldn't.
Judge Berman also said we've got 1000 or more victims
of Epstein of his pedophile ring
and sexual abuse and sexual trafficking and raping.
And we got to worry about how those are interfused or interspersed with other material in there and protect people's
privacy of victims and judge Engelmeyer issued an order which just came out on
the 22nd in which he said I want a memorandum of law. I want briefing. I want the parties to go through the factors about whether I should be releasing these
grand jury materials.
I want to look at the grand jury materials.
I want a submission from Maxwell.
I want a letter or some sort of submission about their proposed position.
I want a submission from the victims. I want briefing
about the rules that govern the release of grand jury materials, which are supposed to be sacrosanct and kept secret.
That's Judge Engelmeyer, and I want all of that by date certain August 5.
Judge Berman said a basically the same thing, but it didn't take that long
for Judge Robin Rosenberg
down in Florida.
Remember, that's the first grand jury in 2005
that looked at Epstein.
Ultimately, it led to a unholy, unorthodox,
abuse of power, non-prosecution agreement
entered into by the Miami U.S. Attorney's Office
led by Alex Acosta to let Repstein off at the time
when he caught him with a rap on the knuckles
and letting him plead guilty to a state count
of soliciting prostitution from a minor, that's it,
despite the thousands of victims that were present.
And Alex Acosta later got rewarded
for entering into that deal with Donald Trump's best friend by becoming the Labor Secretary for Donald Trump in 2016.
So now Judge Rosenberg gets the same motion that Judge Engelmeier and Judge Berman get,
and she denies it because she says my hands are tied and you Department of Justice
for Donald Trump you know it because you've conceded that you don't fit the elements and
the aspects of the rule the sole rule that govern whether grand jury transcripts can
be released and that rule which is outlined in the judge's order,
which I'm gonna put up on our sub stack,
and outlined on page three of her order,
is federal rule of criminal procedure, six little e three.
And if you don't fit the criteria for rule six e three,
you're not getting grand jury transcripts released,
no matter how much you want them to or don't want you to
and how much you're Donald Trump or not Donald Trump.
And the grounds for it are,
if you can show that the matter
is in connection with a judicial proceeding,
there is no judicial proceeding going on
right now concerning this.
It's at the request of a defendant
who shows that grounds may exist to dismiss his indictment
Well Epstein's not making that motion and Maxwell hasn't made that request either and at the request of a government for use in a foreign state
Tribal or military criminal investigation that hasn't happened either
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fact, Judge Rosenberg says on page six of her order, denying the release of these grand
jury materials from Florida against Epstein, the government concedes, page six,
the government concedes as much in its petition.
It acknowledges that, quote,
Department of Justice recognizes that this court
is bound by 11th Circuit precedent,
and that it raises this argument due to the significance
of the matter and to preserve it for potential appeal.
The government also recognizes that in this circuit
only an en banc decision or the Supreme Court
may overrule that original decision.
11th Circuit in a case called Pitch says,
you can't release the grand jury transcripts
just because you want them.
There have to be compelling reasons that fit rule 6E, done.
And so that's why the judge says at the top of her order on page one, this matter came before the court on the US United States request to unseal
grand jury transcripts. 11th circuit case law does not permit this court to grant the government's
request. The court's hands are tied, a point that the government concedes. She then procedurally, at the end of her order,
sets up a new miscellaneous docket number, sort of an administrative issue, slides all this motion
practice about grand jury transcript release over to it, and then instructs the clerk to assign a new
judge to it because she's already been tainted because she's seen the grand jury material.
Now Maxwell, Jelaine Maxwell, is currently being represented, get this,
by David Oscar Marcus. Who's that? A well-known lawyer, doubted Miami,
got a lot of credentials, went to Harvard,
and considers Alan Dershowitz to be his mentor.
So if you're playing the conspiracy home game, Alan Dershowitz,
who was accused of being a recipient or a participant in the Jeffrey
Epstein pedophile conduct by Virginia Joffrey, who now killed herself in April, by the way,
one of the first victims to come out and do a documentary about what happened to her.
Dershowitz's mentee is David Oscar Marcus. I got to think that Dershowitz helped bring in David Marcus
to be the lawyer for Jelaine Maxwell.
Now he's lobbying hard through his buddy,
and I mean his buddy, Todd Blanch,
who's the number two in the Department of Justice,
their friends.
I've seen the podcasts where they've giggled
through most of the podcasts,
but based on their
closest of the relationship. So here's how it's working.
Maxwell, Maxwell's lawyer Marcus calls Blanche, Blanche says,
What's your what's your client gonna say? What's the proffer?
And is my boss Donald Trump in there? No, she's going to
exonerate Donald Trump. Great. I'm going to go meet with her.
Hence the meeting where the Department of Justice's going to exonerate Donald Trump. Great, I'm going to go meet with her. Hence the meeting, where the Department of Justice
is going to go meet with Jelaine Maxwell.
Now, Jelaine Maxwell's brother is worried
that she's going to get killed
and that she's going to not make it,
if you know what I mean.
But it looks to me like a campaign
to try to get a pardon and the pay to play, right,
is that she's going to lie or whatever, say whatever she needs
to say in order to exonerate Donald Trump in return for that pardon. Dershowitz, Marcus, Blanche, Trump,
Maxwell. You see it? That's the constellation. That's how you connect the stars and the dots.
is in the dots.
And Marcus has told the judges in New York
that he wants to look at the transcripts so he can fashion an opinion on behalf of his client,
Maxwell, because Judge Engelmeier has asked for that.
I'm not sure they're gonna get that,
although the Department of Justice is not objecting.
So you see the closest to the relationship
between Marcus and Todd Blanch for Donald Trump.
Now the other thing they asked Judge Rosenberg
for her last point on this hot take
is they asked her to transfer the whole kitten caboodle
up to New York and let Engelmeyer or Berman handle it.
And she says, I don't have the grounds to do that either.
This was a Florida matter, a Florida indictment,
a Florida West Palm Beach grand jury,
which I'm protecting the secrecy of.
I'm not transferring it up to another judge.
There's limited circumstances where that's appropriate
and they're not present here.
So denied, case closed.
That's the right decision.
I don't think the grand jury material should be let out
because Donald Trump wants it out.
There are bigger overarching principles of protection
about grand juries that are in play here.
I'll continue to follow it.
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