Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump Suffers Blow as Top Prosecutor Resigns From Phony “Grand Conspiracy” Prosecutions

Episode Date: September 13, 2026

Popok reports on Joe DiGenova, the architect of Trump's Grand Conspiracy plan to use Judge Aileen Cannon in Florida to indict his political enemies from the Obama and Biden administrations. Subscri...be: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@LegalAFMTN?sub_confirmation=1⁠ Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast⁠ Legal AF: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af⁠ Sidebar with Katie Phang: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sidebar-with-katie-phang/id1886801652⁠ The Parnas Perspective: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-parnas-perspective/id1869165949⁠ The Intersection with Michael Popok: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-intersection-with-michael-popok/id1818863274⁠ MissTrial: ⁠https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial⁠ The PoliticsGirl Podcast: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast⁠ The Ken Harbaugh Show: ⁠https://meidasnews.com/tag/the-ken-harbaugh-show⁠ The Weekend Show: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show⁠ Burn the Boats: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats⁠ Majority 54: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54⁠ On Democracy with FP Wellman: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman⁠ Uncovered: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:20 Do I have to do everything myself? You want to want! I'll give you a... Mobland, new season hits September 18th on Paramount Plus. Well, Trumpapalooza must not be. buoying the spirits of the Department of Justice because one of its lead prosecutors, Joe DeGeneva, who was leading the grand conspiracy investigation that Donald Trump was using to go after people in the Obama administration, people like John O. Brennan, former head of the CIA,
Starting point is 00:00:50 people like Barack Obama, perhaps himself, or James Comey, the former FBI director, or others that was in front of and being presided over by Judge A.A. Aline Cannon down in Florida, he resigned. He resigned today. And if you lose a true Kool-Aid drinking believer, like Joe DeGeneva, who was so nuts that he was kicked off of Team Crazy in the first Trump administration by Rudy Giuliani, if you lose that guy as your special prosecutor, what does that say about your grand conspiracy to try to target people because they're your political critics. I'm Michael Popock.
Starting point is 00:01:35 You know where you are. You're on legal A.F. Countdown to the midterms continues. Such great news coming out of the United States Supreme Court in favor of the Democrats today. Votes and maps in Missouri. We're waiting on mail-in balloting, which I think will be another win for democracy.
Starting point is 00:01:55 And now we've got the news that Joe DeGeneva, the 81-year-old special counsel. hired by Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche has tendered his resignation. Now, the reporting is that the Trump administration and Donald Trump has been frustrated that the Genova hasn't been able to get any indictments in Florida. They got their handpicked judge in Judge Aileen Cannon. Yes, the person who's likely on the United States Supreme Court shortlist that bailed out Donald Trump in Mara Lago, she's presiding in her one-judge town of Fort Pierce, Florida,
Starting point is 00:02:31 Florida over a grand jury. Now, that grand jury's been around for more than six months. We know because there's been subpoenas that dozens and dozens of members of the intelligence community have been dragged in before that grand jury. And still, we're waiting around, and there seems to be no, no indictments. Now, DeGeneva has apparently thrown in the towel and said he's not going to do it any longer. Now, if you don't know who I'm talking about, here is Joe DeGeneva in his prime when he went on Fox News and other right-wing media outlets going after James Comey and John Brennan and the rest. Now, you should know that John Brennan, the former CIA director,
Starting point is 00:03:16 is fighting back and has filed multiple motions in advance of him being indicted to try to make sure that the government doesn't destroy documents. And I mean you, Joe DeGeneva. Here's a clip of Joe DeGeneva in action. Like prisoners putting checks on a concrete wall, we like to mark the passage of time on this show. And as of today, Robert Mueller's investigation into Russia has been running for an entire year. What have we learned?
Starting point is 00:03:44 Joe DeGeneva has been taking close notes from day one. He's a former U.S. attorney, of course, one of our favorite guests. He joins us tonight with a recap. Joe, what do we know? We know that Hillary Clinton was illegally exonerated. We knew that a year ago. We know that there was a substantial. effort to frame the current president of the United States with crimes by infiltrating his campaign
Starting point is 00:04:07 and then his administration with spies that the FBI had set upon them. We have learned that the crimes were committed by the FBI, senior members of the Department of Justice, John Brennan, Mr. Clapper, Mr. Comey, and others associated with the Democratic Party and that Donald Trump and his associates committed no crimes. That's quite a litany. So, To the spying question, when the president tweeted that one morning, and I'll never forget it, they spied on us from Trump Tower. And I don't think there's a single person who read that who thought, well, that's kind of a heavy-duty charge. Can you prove it?
Starting point is 00:04:43 And of course, he was derided immediately as insane and as a tinfoil hack guy. That's in effect been proved. Oh, absolutely. Categorically and unequivocally, it has been proved that the FBI in violation of all guidelines, all legislation, and I believe they committed crimes in doing so, purposely sent people into the Trump campaign to plant false information, then force that information to be forwarded back to CIA and then funneled to the FBI to be used as false information in FISA applications. Everybody involved in that process who knowingly participated committed a crime.
Starting point is 00:05:20 So why aren't they being held to account? As of today, I understand that a referral for criminal prosecution has been made by Mr. Horowitz to Mr. Huber, who is investigating the FISA leaks, the unmasking, the leaks of the unmasking, and everything we described tonight, criminal referrals have already been made. And I suggest that Mr. Brennan, who loves to make comment about the process, get himself a good lawyer, not a good writer. So I know Trump made a big deal out of, oh, Michael Cohen was in the audience, and we've got Federman, the senator doing a video or whatever he did. But you see, this is like a smokescreen and a cover for a complete lack of any type of professionalism or continuity with the Department of Justice.
Starting point is 00:06:08 When you lose Joe DeGeneva, who has been a MAGA enabler and a Trump supporter from day one, that tells me that the case against these people in the quote-unquote grand conspiracy, tying them all together is weak. How are they ever, for instance, going to indict Barack Obama? First of all, how are they ever going to indict these people down in Florida? There's been recent Supreme Court cases that say, point blank, wherever the scene of the crime is, is where you have to prosecute them. What crimes that Barack Obama commit that aren't covered by presidential immunity by the Supreme Court in Florida?
Starting point is 00:06:46 What crimes that Brennan commit in Florida? It doesn't live in Florida. Or James Comey, the former FBI director, or anybody else. You can't just use a master grand jury. located in front of a friendly court and a friendly judge to spit out indictments and print up indictments. That's not the way our system of justice or democracy works. Now, I don't know, we'll find out because this is a very leaky administration. I don't know if DeGeneva was bristling under having to report to Todd Blanche directly, or he was being pressured to bring indictments
Starting point is 00:07:21 and he's been capable of doing it. You know, we've had subpoenas that have apparently gone out, there's been testimony, and yet no indictments. So this is important because the key to Donald Trump's anti-weaponization department of the Department of Justice rests on the shoulders of a few people. One of them was Ed Martin, who used to be the pardon attorney, was the head of the anti-weaponization committee for Pam Bondi and had for a very short time been the acting U.S. attorney in the District of Columbia. Eagle Ed Martin was also out there going after all of Donald Trump's political critics and his self-proclaimed targets like Letitia James, New York Attorney General, and James Comey again, and Adam Schiff, Senator from California.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And so he just left the government. Now they try to make it have a good appearance. Like, oh, he's going to go out and help protect the Trump and Trump election. officials and elected officials in MAGA to make sure that, you know, the election coming up at the midterms is properly protected. Does that really what happened? Or did he also leave because he can't accomplish any of the goals that Donald Trump had set for him? So you got Ed Martin leaving. You've got the rumors that Janine Piro, the U.S. attorney for D.C., is about to leave. And now you've got Joe DeGeneva who's being shown the door or shown himself the door. It's very odd. It shows you how corrupt the underlying premise of the indictments is.
Starting point is 00:09:03 And the fact that Joe DeGeneva either because he's frustrated, he can't get a grand jury to indict on this kind of false or fabricated evidence or whatever smoke they're blowing in that grand jury room, or he's frustrated because Trump's on his ass to get the indictments that he's incapable of delivering them. Either way, it tells a story about what's going on with the corruption of the Department of Justice under Todd Blanche. So we're going to continue to follow it.
Starting point is 00:09:27 This is not the first report I'm going to be doing. As new information comes out, I will update you about that grand conspiracy investigation, whether they try to put somebody else in charge of that. Maybe they try to revive Alina Haba or try to bring in somebody else from the extended MAGA world to be the special prosecutor or not. And Joe DeGeneva can't help himself. He will pop up on network television on some sort of right-wing media show. any day now and we'll be there to capture it.
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