Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump utterly SCREWED by damning LEAK from his attorney

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Starting point is 00:00:14 legal AF every time the Ken Chess Pro in Dated Co-Conspirator in Georgia, former attorney for Donald Trump, files a motion, we learned something new and it's always worse for Ken Chesboro and the rest of the defendants, which has got one today. Ken Chesboro has filed about every other day some sort of motion to dismiss the indictment aspects of the indictment. And now his first motion to suppress certain evidence. Ken Chesboro doesn't like the fact that Fawni Willis's investigative team got a search warrant

Starting point is 00:00:50 about a month before the indictment as she rounded out her investigation against Chesboro and the rest and the fake electors and David Schaeffer and all of that and got his email account and all of the data and all of the emails in there from Microsoft. Apparently, one of the few Americans left that still uses MSN as his email account. He doesn't like that. He says to the judge in his motion to suppress filing, which demonstrates, again, that he doesn't understand law, let alone Georgia criminal law. He says, Judge, I'm an attorney.

Starting point is 00:01:23 As an attorney under Georgia criminal law, under this, Judge, I'm an attorney. And as an attorney under Georgia criminal law, under this particular statute that he likes to cite, 17-5-32 of the Georgia criminal code, you can't allow those documents to go directly to the Fulton County DA's office. You have to make them go to a special master because I'm an attorney and my attorney client privilege documents have to be protected from falling into the wrong hands until they're ready, and I need to be able to participate in that process. That is all true, Ken, except if you read the statute, which you have not properly even cited within your own motion, it doesn't apply if you, yourself, are the subject of the criminal investigation. It's supposed to protect innocent attorneys. Like if the prosecutors wanted to play

Starting point is 00:02:12 hardball and they didn't think the defense attorneys were negotiating with them properly, or they wanted them to get their clients a plea to roll over, they would just show up at a dawn raid and just take every defense lawyer's server and hard drive and emails. Okay, that's the world we don't want to live in. But if you read the actual statute, which I'm going to put up on the screen so that you can see what we're talking about 17-5-32, it says that notwithstanding any other provision of law, no search and seizure without a warrant, they had a warrant, first of all, issued by a judge, Judge Dempsey. She'll be conducted, and no search warrant shall be issued for any documentary evidence in the possession of an attorney who is not a criminal suspect.

Starting point is 00:03:01 So if you are a criminal suspect, which obviously Ken Chesboro was a month before the indictment came out, especially after seven months of the special purpose grand jury taking interviews from 75 people, including Ken Chesboro, he was a suspect and you don't warn a suspect. In fact, the judge went one step further after reading and having evidence presented to him for probable cause by the investigator for Faudi Willis and her affidavit and testimony, which I have a copy of because Ken Chesbaro attached it to his motion. This is how I find out about things. This is how I'm able to report them on legal AF and right here on hot takes like this one. A couple of days ago, Ken Chesborough told the world that there was a court reporter taking down a

Starting point is 00:03:50 transcription, uh, uh, transcribing a, a transcript of whatever was said in the secret fake electors meeting as they were signing and their name to the bottom of a conspiracy and signing their name on fake certificates. I didn't know they brought a court reporter in and had a transcript running until Kent Jessboro filed it in a motion that's going to lose, but now tells us about the evidence. See lay people, even those in the law like me don't get the discovery that's provided, the documents provided by the government over to the defense, unless the defense leaks it and Kent Jessboro just likes to do that. So now we have the affidavit, which tells him, you, me and the rest of the world, why

Starting point is 00:04:33 Ken Jessberot is a suspect. And if you're a suspect, again, under that statute, then it doesn't, you don't use the special master proceeding to allow a kind of a specialized judge to look at documents because we got to protect the lawyers. I'm all about protecting the lawyers. I'm a defense lawyer. I get it. But if you're part of the crime, Ken, you don't get the advantage of that.

Starting point is 00:04:57 Instead, funny willis with the judge, judge Dempsey set up an alternative scheme, which I think protected his rights and due process. And that was they just like the federal government does it in federal prosecutions. They set up a filter team, which is a separate team independent from their office, not talking to the lawyers prosecuting the case, who get to see the documents and make sure there are, if there's anything not related to the scope of the search warrant related to this this a band of time from November until January 10th related to the fake electors, the scheme, Giuliani, Trump, uh, Powell and all of the fake electors in Georgia and in other states, then they put blinders on and they don't

Starting point is 00:05:40 provide that information. They filter it out and only give the information within the scope of the indictment. But as I said, Judge Dempsey heard so much compelling evidence in issuing the search warrant because he got to go through a judge to get it. He actually also issued a non-disclosure order, an NDO, which tells the company like Microsoft not only is a search warrant being served on you, not only are you to collect up all the data that we want and deliver it over to the filter team for the Bolton County DA,

Starting point is 00:06:14 but don't tip off Ken Chesparo because there's a likelihood that he will alter, secrete high documents in some way. He will tamper with the investigation. He will interfere with an ongoing criminal investigation. Whatever it is, NDO, don't talk. We heard about a similar NDO on the federal side of all of these cases when you may remember when Jack Smith served a search warrant with an NDO, same thing on Twitter, to get all of Donald Trump's material. Same concept, but now we're in state court.

Starting point is 00:06:51 But the really compelling information that I just learned that I'm going to, I'm gonna give you a little succinct version of is what the investigators said about the crimes and again about Ken Chesbro. So for those that are, you know, not watching this as closely as I am, said about the crimes and again about Ken Chesbro. So for those that are not watching this as closely as I am, who are thinking, who is that guy?

Starting point is 00:07:11 Why is he indicted? Because he acts like that in the motions that he files. Why am I here? I just wandered in from outside. I really am just a drive-by defendant. I don't know why I'm here. I saw my name on the door. I thought I'd come in.

Starting point is 00:07:22 No, Ken. You were one of the architects of the fake elector scheme. You wrote multiple legal memos that were used by the crazies on Team Crazy, like Giuliani, like David Schaefer, the head of the Republican Party for Georgia who's been indicted, like all the 12 fake electors by Donald Trump

Starting point is 00:07:40 and others in order to try to throw sand into the gears of democracy and stop the peaceful transfer of power. You wanted to know how I know that? Because the investigator says it right here. So if the indictment wasn't enough, again, here's what you did. And this is right out of it. I'll tell you, it's right out of the affidavit by the special agent.

Starting point is 00:08:00 She says in paragraph two, this investigation began on or about Jan 2 of 2021. When following the 2020 presidential election in Georgia, former president Donald Trump and other individuals associated with his campaign placed a telephone call to Brad Raffinsburg or the secretary of state, the infamous call during the telephone call, which was widely published in the media, former president Trump made multiple false claims of widespread voter fraud in Georgia and made multiple requests of the secretary of state that have carried out would have disrupted the 2020 election. As the year progresses, it's so important to stay on top of your mental health and fitness.

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Starting point is 00:11:23 were cast for individuals not registered to vote false. That 4900 ballots were cast for individuals who did not reside in Georgia, false. Close to 5,000 ballots were cast for deceased voters, false. That 3,000 pounds of ballots, now we're measuring ballots and pounds. We're illegally shredded or otherwise destroyed, and that poll workers had intentionally and fraudulently cast at least 18,000 illegal votes for Biden. All false. I can take that data to your next conversation with people who don't believe that the election

Starting point is 00:11:54 was fair and that Joe Biden won. Now let's move on to what Chesborough did. Who's going to trial by the way on October the 23rd? Attorney Ken Chesborough, whose emails are the subject of the search warrant, wrote a Memorandum dated November 18th, 2020, to Wisconsin Trump campaign lawyer Jim Truppis, titled The Real Deadline for Settling a State's Electrovotes. In this Memorandum Chesborough stated that January 6th, 2021 2021 was the real deadline for when a joint session of Congress was to meet, and that it was necessary under federal law for electors to meet by December 14.

Starting point is 00:12:32 This was central to this memo essential to Trump's efforts to overturn the election. She goes on, paragraph 6 of her affidavit, as part of this rico racketeering conspiracy. Chesbro's co-conspirator, John Eastman, prepared a memorandum titled the Constitutional Authority of State Legislatures to Choose Electors. He sounds so high-faluten and polished, except when you really look at it, you see it's a bunch of BS. Said memorandum laid out the state that the state legislatures, including Georgia's legislature had the ability to take back their plenary power to determine the

Starting point is 00:13:12 manner of choosing electors. Eastman also sent Chesbro's November 18th memo to Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, thus showing that Eastman, Chesbro and Eastman and through Eastman were working with Giuliani on the false electric plot. Now Chesbro doesn't like that the emails between him and Giuliani came out because he says it's like attorney, attorney client, attorney client client. Yeah, except with all the attorneys that I just listed are suspects and in the indictment. Then all that goes out the window that these emails just become evidence of the criminal

Starting point is 00:13:47 conspiracy. Chesparo also wrote a December 9, 2020 memo as outlined in paragraph 7 of the affidavit, titled Statutory Requirements for December 14, Electoral Votes, in which he wrote that Republican electors could take the essential steps needed to validly cast and transmit their votes. In other words, fake electors start your engines. You're going to be signing certificates by December 14th. He sent this memo on his MSN email account to the then Georgia Republican Party Chair,

Starting point is 00:14:20 David Schaefer, along with an email about having a coordinating logistics of the fake electors voting. Paragraph 8, Chessborough then sent a follow-up email to Schaeffer and other electors, saying he'd spoken to Rudy Giuliani and attached documents to be used by the electors on December 14th. In other words, Chessborough and Giuliani designed the fake elector certificates to be used. This email, according to the investigator, shows that Chespro went beyond merely providing a theoretical framework of how election law works and is instead evidence of his advocating

Starting point is 00:14:57 on behalf of Giuliani for the Georgia Republican nominee electors to violate Georgia law. And the affidavit goes on for about another 20 paragraphs showing the full scope of the conspiracy, Ken Chesbrows rolling it and completely debunks his argument that you've now seen in his recent motions to dismiss that he was just a theoretical, he was just talking theoretical legal strategy and cogitation and marination that lawyers do for clients about an overthrow of democracy. That's really what it comes down to. And so the judge heard everything I just said in the affidavit in live testimony from the investigator and decided, yeah, Ken Jessboro is a suspect in the criminal investigation.

Starting point is 00:15:47 We don't have to use that section of the statute that says I have to use this at a point, a special master. That's only if you're just a regular old lawyer that has his, you know, like you're just involved because you're representing somebody, not because you're participating in the crime. I mean, this again is the, it just calls me that Ken Chesbro continues to have papers filed with other lawyers' names on it because he's represented in which they say, judge, the law is the following when it's obvious to anyone reading the statute that he was and is a suspect. They argue that, well, he didn't know, there was no target

Starting point is 00:16:23 letter. Here's an example. There's, he didn't get a letter from the Georgia or the Fulton County DA saying he's a target. And wake up under Georgia law in practice. There's no requirement that either the federal government or the state government prosecutors provide you with a target letter to tell you you're a criminal. Some people don't find out that they are a criminal, a criminally accused or targeted person in an investigation until there's a knock on the door and they are arrested. You think they give target letters to child molesters or people that participate in child pornography? You think they give drug dealers who are being picked up, get a target letter or do they just knock on the door or burst through the door and take them into custody? So as even the chief judge at the time, uh, Big Bernie for Fulton County who oversaw all

Starting point is 00:17:16 the grand jury work and all of this, he said early on when, when, even if he was talking about a target letter, he says, I don't know what you're talking about, about a target letter. We don't use target letters in Georgia you're talking about, about a target letter. We don't use target letters in Georgia. We don't refer to them that way. So for these local Georgia lawyers that come in and say, I didn't get a target letter. So I must be a regular old attorney and I'm not a criminally accused one. So you got to use a special master because you didn't use a special master that all that

Starting point is 00:17:40 evidence needs to be suppressed, meaning can't be used by the prosecutors in the case, especially the ones with Rudy Giuliani. By the way, anybody, I'm continuing his argument, anybody that's seen it on her team is now tainted and they can't continue to be involved with the team. Okay, let me just cut to the chase. He's going to lose this motion, but it's fascinating because he revealed the actual search warrant and the affidavit use that none of us had ever seen to see really the how robust the investigation is, the information, the data, the evidence against all these

Starting point is 00:18:15 co-conspirators is. Thank you, Ken Chesboro, from the bottom of my heart, because I wouldn't have anything to talk about on this particular hot dick had you not revealed it and leaked it to the press. But having now seen it, compared it to your papers, realize that you can't read because the statute obviously has an exception if the attorney is a criminally charged or accused person, which makes a lot of sense, right? You can't just hide behind your law license and commit crimes. Now, he might have an argument that what he did was justify he's just a lawyer and I wasn't really involved. Although, every time we see a piece of paper that is his name on it and his involvement, it gets worse and worse for him. Just based on what's in the senior investigators, Affa David,

Starting point is 00:19:01 a jury would likely convict CanENCHESPO, my opinion. And I'm going to do another hot take that follows this one to tell you what's going to happen, or what to expect in the KENCHESPO's Sydney Powell table for two trial, as I like to call it, October the 23rd, which is going first on the RICO. And I'll answer all the questions that you may have about, what if Fony Willis loses that? What does that do to Trump and the other 17 co-conspirators? Nothing. Will the next jury know about that or the juries? No. If she wins, what happens? A lot of people cooperating with Fony Willis as she gets ready for the next trial, which will likely include Donald Trump in 2024. I'll go over all of that and Ken Chesperro's role in another hot take. I do hot takes like this one because I sit at that valuable real estate of law in U.S.

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Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump utterly SCREWED by damning LEAK from his attorney

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