Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trumps QUID PRO QUO with Co-Defendants at RNC EXPOSED

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

The Milwaukee convention center hosting Trump’s convention may not be big enough to hold all of his co-defendants, co-conspirators, employees co-defendants on his payroll, fake electors, fake disbarred lawyers, and conspiracy theorists, and that poses a big problem. Michael Popok of Legal AF explains how Trump may violate his criminal arraignment release conditions by mingling and with this rogues gallery. Lumen: Take the next step in improving your health! Go to https://lumen.me/LEGALAF to get 15% off your Lumen! Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Join the Legal AF Patreon: https://Patreon.com/LegalAF Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Benefits vary by card, other conditions apply. So Michael Popak, Legal AF, the convention center in Milwaukee may not be big enough to hold all of the Trump co-conspirators, witnesses, grand jury, regular jury witnesses, party officials who helped Donald Trump cling to power and stop the peaceful transfer of power. And that's the problem because Donald Trump, whether he likes it or not and whether his party will accept it or not, is a criminal defendant in

many criminal justice systems. He's a felon as adjudicated in New York by a jury. He is in the criminal justice system in the DC election interference case, in the Mar-a-Lago case before Judge Cannon, and in the Georgia election interference case before Judge McAfee. Each one of those indictments led to an arraignment and a release on a set of conditions. All of the conditions require that Donald Trump limit or have no contact with his co-defendants. In Georgia, he's got 14 left that are co-defendants or make statements or have interaction with people that he knows or should know that they're witnesses unless in some circumstances his lawyer is present. So unless he's going to chain himself, that's a good image, chain himself to one of his lawyers in the criminal case and

have them walk around the convention with him as he bumps into one co-conspirator, unindicted co-conspirator after another, this is just going to be a cesspool, a Petri dish of criminality. As I said at the top of the hot take, I don't think you can, the convention center may not be big enough to hold all these people. Let's just go through some of the list of people. About a dozen fake electors are being sent by their party delegations in the GOP, the Republican party, to serve as real presidential electors for Donald Trump this time, or just be good old fashioned convention delegates at the RNC, including people who've been indicted from Arizona, Michigan, and Nevada.

You got that group there. You got, I'm sure, a handful, they've all been released, of co-conspirators in the Georgia case who are going to go for their continued 15 minutes of fame or otherwise. I could think of a number of them that would try to go. Then you've got that subgroup of people who are the unindicted co-conspirators listed by number in the indictment of the DC election interference case.

Boris Epstein, Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows, and others. Right? You could see them descending. We already know that some of the people that were involved in the organization of the actual Jan 6 event, including on the ellipse, those organizers are all going. Cleta Mitchell, sort of a behind the scenes smoke filled room lawyer operator for Donald Trump who helped organize the 70 failing lawsuits that tried to have Donald Trump cling to power. Rudy Giuliani, fresh off of bankruptcy loss,

where he had his bankruptcy dismissed. So now he's going to have to start paying up on the 150 millions of dollars that he owes in defamation damages, imputative damages, to Ruby Freeman and Shea Moss, they're gonna go. He's gonna go. What about Mike Flynn? If you're doing a table of the hierarchy, like a food table of who's gonna be there, first line is gonna be the fake electors. Then it's gonna be all of the election and election officials on the Republican side that help him cling to power. They're all going to be there.

During a live criminal investigation about many of these issues, some of these people have been indicted. Then you got the co-conspirators in Georgia, including ones that were fake electors and fake electors that are cooperating with Fonny Willis's investigation. Got that group. Then you got the lawyers, including ones that have been disbarred, Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, Ken Chesborough, Mike Roman, who I'm sure is going

to be at the RNC. This is their coming out party. This is their old home week and they're going to come back to it. And the issue here on this hot take as examined by some other reporting is how does Donald Trump not violate the conditions of his release? You know he's going to get into a conversation with Walt Nauta, his co-conspirator in Mar-a-Lago. He's gonna rub elbows with some of like Boris Epshneid's, definitely there, Boris Epshneid's on his current payroll. How about when people wanna poke their heads out and see how it's going, who have been indicted or singed or almost indicted or unindicted co-conspirators,

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for 15% off your purchase. Thank you Lumen for sponsoring this episode. So there's a group of people that won't include Steve Bannon since Steve Bannon has already reported to serve his sentence. Wasn't that a quiet reporting, by the way? July 1, he went in already, but Bannon won't be there. Mike Flynn's out. Yeah, he was pardoned. He can go and all the others. So what we need to watch is, and I want that more importantly, what the prosecutors and the FBI have to keep an eye on, and the Georgia investigators have to keep an eye on,

is it has Donald or will Donald Trump violate the conditions of his release? And then the judges have to do something about it if he did. If he violates the gag order, there's still gag orders going on, there's limited ones up in New York. The DC election interference case with Judge Chutkin still has a gag order in place while he's up on the stage. It hasn't been revised in any way. In fact, Donald Trump's lawyers didn't

even try to go back to Judge Chutkin and revise it. They're going to go in in early August for a major hearing about what to do next in that case, but he has an obligation not to witness tamper by making public comments about potential witness testimony. How is he going to avoid that? Now, look, a lot of the RNC and conventions as a whole on both sides of the aisle are scripted. Usually, Trump's not there for the whole thing. Normal candidates come in the last minute on the last day when they accept the nomination and give their speech, although they're in town and that's the problem. Whether it's in the convention hall or it's in the hotel or a boardroom or a fundraiser on the eve of it, he's rubbing elbows with people that are already in the soup with him as co-conspirators, indicted or unindicted or witnesses, grand jury

or petty jury or trial judge or trial jury. And we have to be vigilant. And it's almost like if you see something, say something at the prosecutor level, and that's what they're going to have to do. Nobody wants to give and nobody thinks it's appropriate on thinking people that Donald Trump should be given a pass. He has a gag order. He's got conditions of his release and he needs to abide by them. And it's going to be up to the vigilance of the prosecutors and the judges after getting transcripts and testimony and hearing somebody's going to rat out Donald Trump if he violates

one of these conditions about witnesses, co-conspirator meetings and otherwise. And if he's going to meet with some of these co-conspirators, he better have a lawyer, not a retainer, standing next to him during those conversations. And the fake electors, that's the party that wants to reward its fake electors who are this close to being criminally prosecuted or have been criminally prosecuted. That just tells you everything you need to know about that party and its morals and its values. Look, we do this type of analysis in one place.

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