Les Pires Moments de l'Histoire - Tchernobyl

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

Dans son tout premier épisode tiré de l’histoire contemporaine, Charles se penche sur la plus grosse catastrophe nucléaire de l’humanité : Tchernobyl. Un désastre monumental, résultat direct... de la négligence, de l’ignorance et de la corruption du régime communiste. Ouf. Est-il possible d’en faire un récit qui soit un tant soit peu… drôle ? Bonne question…Animateur : Charles BeauchesneAuteurs : Charles Beauchesne, François De Grandpré, Anne-Hélène PrévostRéalisatrice : Barbara-Judith CaronMonteuse : Lucie Fournaison Designer graphique : Kevin BouchardCoordonnateur : Clément TurpinProductrice : Rosalie GrangerProducteurs exécutifs : Raphaëlle Huysmans et Philippe Lamarre Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here, Pierre Lecoellette. And Conaboudria? If you like the poor moment of the history, you risk to enjoy the rich, where we'll spell the head of of one of the rich and powerful, and scandals. This season, we're
Starting point is 00:00:10 to attack at Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon. These enterprises, the voyage in the space, are mariaxravagant, everything is possible right now, on all the appellate
Starting point is 00:00:20 to all the appellado presented by Urbania. Bonn'Ecut. Welcome to Balado Urbana. Good to you, madame, messieurs, non-binar, and all these furies, soye the bienvenu a other episode of The Peer Moments of the History with Charles Beauchene.
Starting point is 00:00:42 The balladour historic, who presents in a fashion amusing, and ludic and legire, the moments the most tordu and sinister of the humanity, call me the grand de-dramatisator. It's, by today, that we'll test the limits of this concept that in Esty, because I'll tell you the catastrophe
Starting point is 00:01:00 nuclear of Chernobyl, which is probably in the top of the affairs zero-drull to which I've had the malchance to me attack in this very strange career. You remember you in season two when I tried to
Starting point is 00:01:13 make-couped to Congo? Well, I'd say that it's an humor corporative. The accident of Chernobyl is an event that the historians design like the fact that the planet
Starting point is 00:01:22 has taken a dose for the most King's Ice of radiation mortal, Evidence that had had been consequences quasi-apocalyptic on the environment and incident the people of this
Starting point is 00:01:31 world, after a accident of a generator nuclear in Union Sovietic, well, the friends, I'll say
Starting point is 00:01:39 if you know not my opinion on the Sovietics, you'll get in Motaddi. Spoiler alert, it's not
Starting point is 00:01:45 positive. I'm done it's quite at GoldenEye 64. Effectively, it no subsists that very few
Starting point is 00:01:52 of the light in the tenetre of the history of Chernobyl, considering that it's a disaster pretty assuredly inevitable caused by the mankement of a government ready to abandoning his population in the worst horror
Starting point is 00:02:03 that's the radioactivity. Possibly one of the things that makes the most fear of the most part of people who are a certain percentage of people who are because of that, but the reality is that it's
Starting point is 00:02:15 certainly like to donate the cancer. And now to me demand how I'm going to make a catastrophe nuclear ludic for the world who me listen in doing by doing a jogging or in repairing a
Starting point is 00:02:24 evier. Uh, maybe the solution is to give the voice of clune to characters? That, then, the
Starting point is 00:02:30 level of radiation in the village is dangerously too heavy for the population. Yes, we have not the choice to cut the
Starting point is 00:02:38 lines telephonic and to impish the evacuations to avoid the panic but certainly to avoid that circuls an opinion
Starting point is 00:02:46 negative of the government. Uh-huh. Yeah, Aides a little, but we'd say that it's PIR, in the same time. What is paradoxal, is that the reason for which we're also fear of nuclear
Starting point is 00:02:58 today, it's at cause of Chernobyl. So, that's the pliant that I've found in my boatholette a long time, it would be one of the energy the most proper and renewable that exists, if it's gerry like the world. I imagine that the word key,
Starting point is 00:03:10 it's gerry like the world, so what's we've got used the veils at Chernobyl? All along. So, all you search a doudoo, a tutu, installs you comfortably. It's going to partier the generic, then
Starting point is 00:03:22 all right, and all right? A little juice, someone? Oof, no, I just to see the date there on. I've been to watch the date thereof, forget that. Context Historic. Before to talk to the accident like this, we're going to
Starting point is 00:03:36 talk about, the Warreveld. Oh, ho! Oh, ho! Ho! Ho! Ho! Oh, ha, ho! The whole-pourne de nage, a levy, a army of urges polar
Starting point is 00:03:49 in armure medieval! Or, well, they don't let's not the choice. Relash, Rudolp. But, in fact, Perlowe, it's still only only prototype, he has never been tested in these conditions real. Fet's what I say, merd! God, we'll guard. And lans, not this war-frored,
Starting point is 00:04:16 the other. That's what I call also the reason why during a couple of decades all the menaceans of Hollywood were the Russians Sovietic who'd speak the English
Starting point is 00:04:24 with an accent perhaps a little exaggerated at posteriori. Hey, what's up Hollywood? Coca-Cola on colesam on Russia
Starting point is 00:04:33 Big Mac prepared with gross tranche of betrave American Dream B'Ebe The War Fraud is an expression
Starting point is 00:04:41 for designy a very long conflict between the U.S.S. The Megazord of all countries communist of Europe of the East of the second
Starting point is 00:04:49 half of the 20th century. I've already heard of the more young to be gag of a TV that they've never knew. Detail interesting. The Megazord,
Starting point is 00:04:59 it's what happened when all the robots dinosaurs of each Power Rangers individual were to form a single mega-robot with a gross
Starting point is 00:05:06 CP, and you will have to make confidence that in the 90, it was all an event and now, the war
Starting point is 00:05:11 It's a conflict that will debut all just after the Second Worldial, when the United and the U.S.S.S. will realize that, apart, Array, they're not of time of common, and finally, they say it's the face.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Effectively, Hitler, has been, for the Allies of the World Liber, the experience to refair the Sal of Bain that will inevitably make to find to their couple a few time after. The War Fraud,
Starting point is 00:05:32 by count, it's not an unble conflict with the obfue and the gas mortals, but it's interdied by the Convention of Geneva, it's principally a war ideological in in which Americans and Soviets go tour-a-tour-assied to
Starting point is 00:05:42 to vend to the planet the superiority of their mode of life. So, the capitalism and the democracy for the United. I-hah! A society where the
Starting point is 00:05:51 individual and the money primes I'm pretty much I've got to I'm an idea my success. Lache me the cooos! Motherfuckers!
Starting point is 00:06:01 And the Leverment more sober communism for the USSRS. Voyeur production detenue by state and society without class, which evite the inequalities, do more,
Starting point is 00:06:11 on paper, liches collectively cooey of party, now, camarad. Choosies your poison, as he says. The two-puisances will so join
Starting point is 00:06:19 to goxlable like that during these decades and other to beattant for the first on the moon. It's a
Starting point is 00:06:25 little path for the man and a pat of a geant for uncule the U.S.S. Eh, U.S.S. to listen the radio also,
Starting point is 00:06:36 but in caches in in sub-soules, because of the right. And in seeing some vowsy, or even in doing some guys, by proxy,
Starting point is 00:06:43 it's a day, to be affronted by procuration on going to do the war in a country rather than to be front for
Starting point is 00:06:49 real. What will give to the war of Korea and eventually, the Vietnam. Uh,
Starting point is 00:06:53 in what to be back against the Vietkong will us can be able to be able to get to
Starting point is 00:06:58 this LSD we don't the response. No! So, the war Fraud, it's certainly a competition
Starting point is 00:07:06 of who has the first of the front possible. That's what she said. Heh. Evident
Starting point is 00:07:11 a depents the more critical in this course is freen between the two great
Starting point is 00:07:14 power of the world, it's sure this new technology that just to get used to start
Starting point is 00:07:18 the nuclear oh, the Soviets capote on the energy nuclear. An energy proper and
Starting point is 00:07:25 efficace that's creating modernity, what will push around the 60,
Starting point is 00:07:29 the USSR to to undertake the construction of good number of central nuclearer,
Starting point is 00:07:33 motivated by their abundance of space, of resources natural, and so an desire
Starting point is 00:07:37 to be independent energetically to rest of the rest of the world who they detest. Detail really important,
Starting point is 00:07:43 but complicated and not so real. Okay, now it's the boot where I try to how it
Starting point is 00:07:48 can't be a function a central nuclear but to do avertisante so, so I
Starting point is 00:07:54 will explain that in inalal the end of the principle of a Central Electric Nuclearer, is very similar to our Central
Starting point is 00:08:02 Hydro-Electric-Kewoes. In group, you can put to turn a big turbine that will convert the energy of movement in energy electric. Pose, no question. I don't know more. So, when in a central hydroelectric, we're turning the turbine, in making pass a lot in a ellis, in a reactor nuclear, we're doing that with the fission nuclear, which is the act of
Starting point is 00:08:25 splitter the neutrons of an atom, which is produce two atom, plus the energy. Evidabond, it's what I tried to resumed with my celibre
Starting point is 00:08:34 formula, E. E.E. L.bert Einstein, but what's you're doing in my podcast? Charles,
Starting point is 00:08:40 I'm revenue to do the world to transmit a message capital for the survival for the
Starting point is 00:08:45 survival for the survival for the community. The Consent of the Demos major,
Starting point is 00:08:48 it's reunies. Ah! Ah! Well, well, I guess we'll never. Why Einstein is in an affair? In a reactor nuclear, we split the nooyo of atoms of Uranium 235,
Starting point is 00:09:05 who have this particularity to not only split in two, but also to garrhochet of the neutrons loose a little that will be conned into them and rebondir to splitter more of atoms, which will garrochet more of neutrons,
Starting point is 00:09:16 which will provoke a reaction in chain that I would describe like a boulea like a boulea a bingo after a bonbubar.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I've not said that two times, let's all this reaction it, it's done a bomb
Starting point is 00:09:27 atomic, what we not in all the context. In the reactor nuclear,
Starting point is 00:09:31 what we is, we, is controlled the reaction, and it is just
Starting point is 00:09:35 enough energy to make bollier of the water, so that create
Starting point is 00:09:38 the vapor and make turn the turbine, so to resume this is
Starting point is 00:09:42 simply to control a explosion nuclear for gerry a buyroar. All for that.
Starting point is 00:09:48 In the reactor, we can control the velocity of the species of gross suppositoa that we're called these bars of control.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Suppositoir, who have two sections, one that can absorb the neutrons and so can't be the neutrons,
Starting point is 00:10:04 which, to be a way completely counterintuitive, accelerate the reaction, because normally the neutrons
Starting point is 00:10:10 are too rapid for frapping the atom to make sure, so if if we're They're allanties, they're more of chance
Starting point is 00:10:15 to en-ponging one and to create a reaction in chain. So... Look, me. I'm a neutron, and I feel at a speed inimaginable. Ha! ha! And I'm, I'm a atom, but you're ratted!
Starting point is 00:10:29 Oh, but... Oh, but what's what it's going to be we're allantissom. Good chance for you to save at this hour, my estie. It was the fission nuclear.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Of return to the history principal. Oh, yes, it's right. The most gross and the most grandiose of these central nuclear new genre at the time, and so, obviously, Chernobyl, the title of the episode. A mega-projecture of six reactors
Starting point is 00:10:59 in the core of the forest swash-upage Ukrainian. Detail interesting. And a little dark in its phone. The central nuclear of Chernobyl is named in the honor of the Ukraine
Starting point is 00:11:09 of Chernobyl, is, but not the city the most prox. This honor is a Pripyate, a village specially conced
Starting point is 00:11:17 for abrited the young of the central with their young family and their very young children.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Oh, no. Pripiat is one of nine of cities Atomique. Construed in bordure
Starting point is 00:11:32 descentral is supposed to be different of the city model of the ideal
Starting point is 00:11:36 communist, super-proper and modern with the magazines and boutiques to the etalage well garnished,
Starting point is 00:11:41 which was chrism not the norm in the rest of the U.S.S., which did the file for the old pain. There was even
Starting point is 00:11:45 an orchestra that used on the place central of the city to the night, which would be cool for the first
Starting point is 00:11:52 year the first time. Good apiece, chere! What? I said, bonapitie, cherries!
Starting point is 00:11:58 An orchestra, it's a mal-viyeye rapidly, rapidly. Hey, the bass once, I've got the
Starting point is 00:12:04 glassed in the coffre. The project is officially in bruntle in 1970, with the selection of the director of the museum Victor Brighu Kanoff,
Starting point is 00:12:13 a young engineer electric of 34-year-of with no experience in nuclear, a ryan. An espouse a homer Simpson Russ.
Starting point is 00:12:22 DRO! It's the 26thumbr of 77, seven after the debut of the first reactor of Chernobyl is inaugurated. The full is inlius.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Suivis and of a 3rd in 1989. The enthusiasm is at his comble. Yeah. Do you know, just as the reactor number one suffer of a little meltdown of nothing in 1982.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Detail who is so far to rest positive, but... A meltdown, it's the word cool in English to say effundreement or fusion nuclear. In gross, it's a shortchove
Starting point is 00:13:02 of the core of the reactor that entrains a sympathetic fonte of the material nuclear, which emmaid a quantity rigolote of radiation. But there's certainly no reason to s inquieter.
Starting point is 00:13:12 It's not often these affairs that, not's not? Detail, malbeza. Between 178 and 1982,
Starting point is 00:13:20 the central of Chernobyl had been of 27 accident and 87 pan of equipment, the
Starting point is 00:13:27 poor foe being this famous meltdown of 1982, during the direction of the
Starting point is 00:13:32 will be super proactive and s-engaged to to regulate the problem in re-voyant all the workers and person never re-entened to talk of this incident
Starting point is 00:13:42 that. Never. Sure, because it's regled? Detail, interesting. You're who you're going to?
Starting point is 00:13:50 Hey, oh, oh, do you know, don't know, relax, relax, relax, relax! Detail interesting, what detail
Starting point is 00:13:56 interesting? No, any detail interesting here. Continue, podcast. At this time, in U.R.S.S., all it was a bit aggressively supervised by the KGB,
Starting point is 00:14:10 the police secret Soviet-sovietic, which includes, obviously, the nuclear. In a way practical-practic, it means that the agents of the KGB is installed in permanence with as a commandant of enquainter on the accidents. But their mandate is,
Starting point is 00:14:23 principally, to contain the rumors and prevent the panic, Lair, here, bullied, emprisoned or eliminate the world who could probably negatively of the regime, rather than to identify really a little source of problems.
Starting point is 00:14:36 All right here? Uh, yeah, yeah, uh, all right, uh, all right, uh, all right, uh, all right, uh, talk, man, why I've got to be, the U.S.-Sovietic exists up for 40 years?
Starting point is 00:14:48 It's who, he, d'u, d'Auerre? Anyways, fast forward in December, 1983, Three, while the workers are so pressure to terminate the fourth-year-old before the end of the year. First, because with this reactor,
Starting point is 00:15:00 Chernobyl would be the most grand central nuclear of the Union Sovietic, but certainly because in Union Sovietic all work with these bonus. In effect, even in an utopia communist, the sole way to motivate the world to respect
Starting point is 00:15:12 these deadlines, is to their garroche a bit of this famous argent, a bit like if the capitalism triumphed to always, and that's deprimate. Resulta,
Starting point is 00:15:19 the gestionaires have been the ability to approve the project non-termined, history to respect the delay and that all the
Starting point is 00:15:25 whole people can't can't get his bonus. It's so what will do the director of Chernobyl,
Starting point is 00:15:30 Victor Brayukanoff. So, Camarad, it's achave the reactor. I've been want to profite
Starting point is 00:15:37 to this jute bonus for gaut my family at Noelle with these navets. But the
Starting point is 00:15:42 good navets, those who cut cheques chare. Well, however, the director, there's
Starting point is 00:15:46 a last test of security super important to have to the turbine. The time who's required for to do adequately
Starting point is 00:15:52 will surely make to make make the date of the delivery not if I'm just falsified the document in declaring that
Starting point is 00:15:59 the test has been made and that I'm talking the reactor like to give the question, my guy,
Starting point is 00:16:05 the NUKR is instinctive. Woo-hoo! So, that's that the director of the most central
Starting point is 00:16:11 nuclear of the U.S.S. has made a false declaration like what all were security
Starting point is 00:16:16 for the 50,000 people after we had just opened the central without the test of security. But if we decide to focus on the moment present, at least all the most
Starting point is 00:16:26 all of the rest there's going to say, the central is open and all but it would be able to do the test, someone? Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:16:37 it's super important, yeah, yeah, you've got to see the bonavets that I've actually for my family at Neal. Whoa! It's...
Starting point is 00:16:45 It's, it's, so, it's so, We'll be with a test still not made at April 1996. Ah, cool,
Starting point is 00:16:55 I'm sorry. We're going to try to try in 1989, in 1984, and in 1985, but the three times it's not abutty
Starting point is 00:17:04 because it's a test very delicate to to do, especially when a central is already in March.
Starting point is 00:17:09 And, I'm not an engineer nuclear, but it's for that it was for it pervene,
Starting point is 00:17:15 without all we're debranched, we'll make an engineer-in-chef adjoin, Anatoly Diatlove, with his veritable diploma, God-Mercie, but who is also as known as a dick with the employees of the business. Ah, Camarad Diatlove! Merveh! Merveillance! Fosone de test at Tomé, Castor. Detail important, at this stage this state of this history.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Well, so it's what this famous test that causes so of mow-to-theathe to everyone. In gross, the dirigent have been to know what happens if if ever a pan of current survien and that the pomp
Starting point is 00:17:47 of refroodisman and then to control the reaction atomic. Hmm, relaxant. At the base, all the reactors of Chernobyl
Starting point is 00:17:54 was equipped of three generatrists of diesel to avoid that situation become out of control. The problem
Starting point is 00:18:00 is that it's a good 60-75 seconds for the start-te, which is pretty long when we're
Starting point is 00:18:06 in a cockote minute atomic. Oof, I'm sure I'm already stressed. I think I'll I'll take a little juice, here. Oh, it's very, pass-datt.
Starting point is 00:18:15 By chance, the engineers pangs that, in case of pan, the turbine who produces the electricity will produce just enough power in ralantissing to maintain in action the pumps of re-froodism
Starting point is 00:18:25 until as the generatrice embark. So, in gross, the test, is to firm the motor like in a pan and see the relentism of the turbine permits
Starting point is 00:18:33 to rest in the wind at what the generators of the secour embarks, if the generators of a little petted. Super chill, as we say.
Starting point is 00:18:40 The test is so prevue for 14.15, the Wednesday, 25 April, 1998 by the Equip of Year, which is jovial directed by Dietlove. Okay, bonte de nooy,
Starting point is 00:18:52 the team of the newy has relentied the reactor progressively before several hours, this hour, let's on the test.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. There are questions? Uh, uh, very, very, but,
Starting point is 00:19:03 let me pass a coup of telephone. Aye! No, no, no, no, No, no question. So, it's party for Chernobyl. Sough that 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:19:11 before the test, we're not possible to entombed the procedures because an other central nuclear had to make an arrest and a party of Ukraine had been a precious
Starting point is 00:19:21 electricity of Chernobyl. Normally, we'd have had to run the test at later, but for Diatlov, there's not question. He is determined to do the test
Starting point is 00:19:29 cut to cut, what is comprehensible considering that if there's something that he's chis, it's he's re-tenue responsible and and then-nege in Siberia.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Just here, all is normal in U.S.S. Resulta, the reactor will roll it at 75% during a little 9-hour the time that the other central
Starting point is 00:19:49 Ukrainian repartes, which, to be, to be an exercise of entreatment remarkable
Starting point is 00:19:53 of the part of the diatlov will have the consequences all inattendue. Is it
Starting point is 00:19:59 just not he comes to make show here? Detai nuclear, again.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Okay, it's It's still super-technic, so I that I just add to rar in can for antiphonies. The reactors sovietic
Starting point is 00:20:12 are the type RBMK. You're at least that I'm trying to make a joke. In gross, it's these reactors very effective,
Starting point is 00:20:20 all in being a result to which the Soviets are to get to their expertise particular,
Starting point is 00:20:25 it's to build cheap in turning the coinron. In a reactor, there's what
Starting point is 00:20:31 we're the moderator. That's what can't to to slow the neutrons for accelerate the reaction, I
Starting point is 00:20:36 will remember. In a reactor traditional, it's the low-lour of enrichi that makes to be able to rebounder the
Starting point is 00:20:42 neutrons and stimulate the reaction. And what is top-cooled with this system, is that if
Starting point is 00:20:47 the reaction part in cooey, the water there is so more more of moderator,
Starting point is 00:20:52 so the reaction will kind of relentire by it same. And that it's
Starting point is 00:20:55 security for very. So, thank moderator. Thank you. But, but the
Starting point is 00:21:02 low lourne-enrichy, it's actually very share, so that the Soviets they prefer re-froodied the reactor RBMk
Starting point is 00:21:09 with the lot of the robinet. Ah, we, we're doing this affair that. But the
Starting point is 00:21:15 other, it's absorbed the neutro, which he relenties the reaction, on the way to it
Starting point is 00:21:20 so they have constantly gere the reaction with the bars of control that are divided in
Starting point is 00:21:24 two sections, a section to relentire the reaction and a section in graphite for accelerated the reaction,
Starting point is 00:21:31 so that replace the water lourne. Just here, all right, because I'm not finished. A sub-productive of the fission nuclear, it's the Xenon 135, which, he, also, relenty the reaction and that, when a reactor roll at base-pricence,
Starting point is 00:21:45 it's accumulates, which is to ralenties even more plus the reaction. Possibly, at a point to chocker the reactor, and repartire a nuclear at Mitten, person who wants to.
Starting point is 00:21:55 So, there, it's a beau is a test, perhaps we're also in trying to test something that we have not necessarily want to test it? Hour zero. It's only at 23 hour 4 that Diathlove
Starting point is 00:22:07 finally the hockey for repartire the test and, unfortunately for him it's already a bout that the team to go ahead soopadabadu
Starting point is 00:22:16 it's even the time for the team of the night to return at the house Oh, well, let me be
Starting point is 00:22:22 not to soup it's for the fancipence of the team of the year, so yabadabadadoo Lassant Diatlove
Starting point is 00:22:27 with the team of night, A group more petite, more young, more experimented, and, certainly, not briefed at all on how to conduct
Starting point is 00:22:34 the test adequately. Hour 1. Vers mid-night-30, we're trying to launch the test, but the power shute in-dose of what is
Starting point is 00:22:44 considered stable and slash-o-safe, due in great party to all this danx-enon-135 of surplus. Camarate diatla
Starting point is 00:22:52 we roll at 5% of the power necessary to make the test. The reactor is in trying to sate in, and we don't know why. I think we're going to be annulay
Starting point is 00:23:01 by precaution. A camarad, Top Tuneov, I'll transfer a appell telephonic of the most importance. But the telephone have even
Starting point is 00:23:09 not sonned. Ayoy, I'm I'm pretty, but too t'or. Maloresement for the operators who
Starting point is 00:23:17 never been trained for that, I've been the manual of their disposition is full of info contradictory, and
Starting point is 00:23:24 of sections barred at the hand with some X and the like when I'd I'd like I'm making sure
Starting point is 00:23:30 that I'd be able to read at midnight the day of an exam and then resulta, today, like all the people in the
Starting point is 00:23:34 industry of the divertism, I've finished a grand total of zero university. Brief, all that will be
Starting point is 00:23:40 being turned more functional by the fact that diatlove is suddenly pretty of a furious
Starting point is 00:23:44 to get to the toilet. The little culot orthodox of Marrussie, the instructions, they are
Starting point is 00:23:51 incomprehensible, what's we do, Camarad Akimov. We've got Proceding with precaution and remaned gradually the power of the reactor. Oh, we've got to be that! Camarade Diatlov, I don't know that we don't
Starting point is 00:24:04 give us directives from the toilet so very optimal. Ayoy! Well, I guess we could... ...would all the bars of control in the same time of a single to expose 100% of the portion in graphite that accelerates that accelerate the reaction?
Starting point is 00:24:18 It should be enough of juice. Oh, that's the Fri-Sovietic! O'HR. 2. About 1.23, a few of time after having retired all the brakes on the barred of control, the reactor
Starting point is 00:24:32 sambaal. Oh, it's that it's a nuclear-merement barred there in. Vitt, Octu Nove. Pace on the button A-Z-5. It's the button
Starting point is 00:24:44 an arrest of urgency that makes that all the bars of control enter in the core the reactor of a shot to absorb the neutrons and stop the reaction. It's the equivalent
Starting point is 00:24:53 nuclear to debranched the ordi when you're on a site porno that's done the virus? I think we're correct. Camarade Akimov,
Starting point is 00:24:59 we're in 19896. What's an site porno? It's a carlo. It's on
Starting point is 00:25:13 an explosion so violent than to find the to the wheel tonne of the reactor
Starting point is 00:25:18 in the car radioactive at air Libre, who will garrochet a ploy of morseau of graphite mega radioactive everywhere around, and so, all in projecting a rayon
Starting point is 00:25:29 of the mark vertical blue in the sky, like it comes all the time in one other, in the film of Marvel. They're read to what to us other, D'Eard, Captain America
Starting point is 00:25:37 version of Chien in a house auntie? I'll verify that on internet, and I'll come after the pose. Oof, all these films
Starting point is 00:25:48 that I'd Never. Incredible. To return to the explosion of Chernobyl, I imagine that you have had to explain what what's going to be. Detail dark. Normally, I would say that it's difficult to because it's not like if there
Starting point is 00:26:00 there was a lot in the reactor in fusion at this moment there, but, but, though, there were. A first employee, directly in the hall adjacent to reactor, who is on the course, without ever knowing that there was a test of the other, and then
Starting point is 00:26:11 a second employee, who, by chance, was in the cell of the machine at the coat and who survived. Before to mourn't several hours later at the hospital in death and we're trying
Starting point is 00:26:20 a bit too too too far that's a test yeah, it's a tromperer as use of the expression by chance,
Starting point is 00:26:24 it's been in all the same of my domain of expertise of a guy who has essentially passed his course of science
Starting point is 00:26:30 physical in a secondar in a group with a cello and by you let's do all the
Starting point is 00:26:34 labortoir without without any trying, trying to foscement in saying you can't do you know
Starting point is 00:26:40 just to look and learn and learn and learn and I'm never nothing Well, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:26:46 Oria Wulpe. A guy of Europe of the East, in plus, he's irony. So, here's my synthesis, parsomé of bruifone.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Vue that the pomp of reffodism had been for the test, the water that's supposed to absorb
Starting point is 00:26:59 the neutrons is made to boughed. Which he had left more of the reaction, so the reaction
Starting point is 00:27:04 so the reaction is accelerated. It's made to gruget the Xenon 135 who relentiesed the reaction,
Starting point is 00:27:10 so it was going to go to after Now, when they've they've put on the button of Array of Urgence
Starting point is 00:27:14 A Z5, making that all the bars of control are abased in the same time, it would,
Starting point is 00:27:18 it would have been in plus tassed all the space where finally, all what's it's the
Starting point is 00:27:25 neutrons on the speed that you can't split of the atom, it's not
Starting point is 00:27:29 the landmine, until as the reactor to rune a reassurant 120
Starting point is 00:27:32 its power, it's that it will make that all the water of
Starting point is 00:27:36 refraudissement restant will ironically to be very much cold that it will be vaporized
Starting point is 00:27:40 direct in two gas, oxygen and hydrogen, just as that it it's it's a
Starting point is 00:27:49 first time due to the gas in a second explosion probably caused
Starting point is 00:27:55 by the hydrogen that poe in fire have you probably not a
Starting point is 00:27:58 traitor mo. To return in the cell of control where it's with reason
Starting point is 00:28:03 the panic but not for the bad reason. But, in fact, Top Tuneov, I'm absente two seconds for to goziere, you boozee my test. Chose certain, the reactor
Starting point is 00:28:13 does not assure me not to explode, because ryan n explodes in Union Sovietic. Last hour, envoying to someone to reactor four, to confirm it at which point it has not exploded. And it's so that many engineers and employing are going to be mortally irradied in opening the door of the cell of the reactor, which men now directly
Starting point is 00:28:32 on a crater abyssal fuming which vows me 400 times more of radiation than at Hiroshima. Ah, the radiation me made cuirr the visage. A chance that the reactor has not exploded.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Ah, no! Ereusement, the potpiers viened to arrive and ready to get the problem and metting the law there
Starting point is 00:28:54 as soon as never. With no equipment of protection against the radiation directly at a couple meters of the cause of
Starting point is 00:29:02 the explosion, to arrosed of the flame toxic and manipulate the debris mega-radiobattif while their boots
Starting point is 00:29:08 fonder on on the asphalt which is, it's like literally 3,000 degrees Celsius. Hey, the boys, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:16 that's not that got the metal in your mouth? I'm at all right, I'm in a story
Starting point is 00:29:20 more weird. I just just to touch a morseau of graphite and my man continue to rune
Starting point is 00:29:25 all over certain until before you see the good of metal came to embarked me too
Starting point is 00:29:29 This famous ghou metallic, it's, in fact, the first sign of the quantity massive of radiation who were all trying to imponging as a scot towel, thanks to the power of these spongy pochettes. It's, and it's time, before the pompiers get to vomere in jet, almost as powerful than those of their lancers' incandies. Detail dark. Well, let, depose your little juts and your biscuits at melas, because it's the moment to you explain exactly what he's past when we're in poisoned
Starting point is 00:29:55 by a dose also substantial of radioactivity. When the radiation pass a travel it's the electron of the atom which detrues
Starting point is 00:30:03 the link between our cellules. And as we're we're on the organs gastron intestino.
Starting point is 00:30:10 So it's part for of a violent diarray and vomissment but at through the parrointestinal
Starting point is 00:30:15 more fragile than the paper of toilet molley so that the bacteria of your
Starting point is 00:30:20 material fecal have already the power to be the power in the case, it
Starting point is 00:30:24 doesn't want to want to in the shoes, in these conditions like like those who've vied the pompiers at Chernobyl, you subibed these brulure on the car, and your mollosceuse stop to produce
Starting point is 00:30:35 these globules blind. Portan, ideal, for combat these bacteria fecal that's all interiors of you. The pain is insupportable. Eventually, there's a kind of period of accalalmed,
Starting point is 00:30:46 probably caused by the endorphine secreted by the car when you suffer too, and it's so that suddenly the maladies have to go better just to give those people. And two seconds
Starting point is 00:30:57 After that, it comes in three-foy-per-pire. All the organs and vessels sanguine and are finished by mourn of an infection sanguine, while your skin's feroche in resting to call at your o'Reilly of hospital, what will arrive at
Starting point is 00:31:08 all the pompiers who have combated the fire this day. In this time, the director of the building, Victor Brighoucanov, has been to be reveighed in plain night,
Starting point is 00:31:18 but, fidel to this famous politics soviette to nothing to really communicate clearly to person, we say only that you have an incident
Starting point is 00:31:25 at the prison. And it's son, at this point, not like an urgency that's going to run in a bus. Trot! I've been mocked my Array!
Starting point is 00:31:33 Eh, to all the way, he has not the fire. Hour three. In the the usine, it's been able expulsed the
Starting point is 00:31:40 vomit mutant, and that Mew, Diatloff continue to think that a RBMK that can't
Starting point is 00:31:46 not explode. And so, even when there there's a dude that will debarker the pore because we
Starting point is 00:31:51 call chalureusely a bronage nuclear. The reactor number four has exploded, I mean, I've seen, of my proper eyes!
Starting point is 00:31:59 Oh, no, it must be a citerne of re-froodisman that petted the water contaminated, which has rendered Malad, Kamarad Akimov, Kamarad Toptunov, we have reintroduer to the water in the reactor before that all these vapors and that we'll subdubts
Starting point is 00:32:12 a fusion, which would be the worst result possible in our situation. Uh, okay, but the system of irrigation electronic, we're not,
Starting point is 00:32:21 Well, go, let's open manually, or, or, if you'll have a super-beau bronzage. You'd have me remircied, in fact. Detail dark. Fah, they're going to open these vans of water manually colled on an incident nuclear, absorbing these doses lethal of radiation
Starting point is 00:32:38 who will literally liquefied in their lid of hospital two months later, all that for refroreder a reactor that existed already more. Drol, no? Hour 5.
Starting point is 00:32:51 About four hours of the morning, Briucanov arrived at his station and he's being called that of simple incident, it was perhaps edulcarry a bit the gravity of the situation. So he will be in a form in a mod U.S.S.S. in the bunker of the air-frored of the U.S. with the most sinister agents of the KGB Dispon, the story of aligning these flutes before the most comfortable with Moscow.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Detail phoned! Oh, the circumstances, obviously. When will be the time to evaluate the danger of the situation for the The city of Pripyat, Diatlov will reassure all the world that all is under control, just before to vomere and to lose knowledge by ter. It's an excellent dynamic of cartoon, but perhaps inquieting, live.
Starting point is 00:33:31 We decide, don't, that the major affair to fair to face of this manifest absence of problems, is to not informer the population, to block the lines of telephone, and to impure kink to quite the city, the story to evite to semming the panic, but, certainly, to impish that it nuise to the reputation of the U.S.S.
Starting point is 00:33:49 You, have you already heard this, the phrase? Ah, the U.S.S. I'm surprised, but they have a good reputation of an habit. Hour 7. Vers 6.35 of the morning, the pompiers are successfully finally to end up the incandes on the to-de-turbine and the reactor, but the fire of graphite
Starting point is 00:34:07 at the center of the crater will continue to be able to burn for a little 20 years, crashing non-stop, of particles radioactive in the atmosphere. Is that the music, or... Ours 12.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Ver 11 o'er, these camions siren commons are aroused the rue of Pripyte without any it's all over. Circulate, there's nothing to
Starting point is 00:34:30 do you do not fereg the rues with a substance supposedly capable of to absorb the radiation.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Just of them no, no, reason particular. We said that today it's a good
Starting point is 00:34:41 good day to do it for it and that if it was not today, we're my family
Starting point is 00:34:44 that said in fact, coupable, but more seriously to play in the park with your famed, and your infant and your
Starting point is 00:34:51 old age. Hour 13. It's about midi to Moscow that we inform Mikhail Gorbachev, the Secretary General, so boss of the
Starting point is 00:35:01 Party Communist, of the situation at Chernobyl. And even in it's addressing to him, we're not super transparent
Starting point is 00:35:07 on the situation. Well, we, we're like these little tracrackat in Chernobyl, but the incandies is
Starting point is 00:35:12 metrised, and the level of radioactivity super chill. We've I'll goy! Detail
Starting point is 00:35:17 dark. The level of radioactivity was really poachy the pantote. It's just that the apparel to measure the radiation, the dosimetre, had a measure maximal that was almost
Starting point is 00:35:28 6,000 times inferior to the actual level of radiation in the air. Possibly, grace of the 6th sense of his tache de vines in the front,
Starting point is 00:35:35 Gorbachev, will kind of probably more prudent to invite two guys on place to be in the situation, Valeri Legassov, the first director
Starting point is 00:35:43 adjoin of the principal center of research nuclear-soviets, and Boris Sherbinah, the vice-president of the Council of the Ministers. And all two
Starting point is 00:35:51 know not in what we're going to get to be in front of this, it's a bit an espeteer a bit an espouse of and I'm invite to consider
Starting point is 00:36:00 the catastrophe of Chernobyl like their film Rush Hour. Camarad Cherbina, it's a catastrophe.
Starting point is 00:36:11 The incand the core of the reactor is zero-etain, and Produce more radiation in one hour than what the core human can enquecassed by annie. The sole solution would be dropped by helicopter a genre of
Starting point is 00:36:27 a mix of sand and an material capable of absorb the neutrons that we call the bore. Perfect. We do that. No, the things are not so simple. If we envoy a helicopter at least of the incandies, he would be in a nuisance so aggressive That it would be the pilot quasi-instantanately
Starting point is 00:36:47 and that the helicopter would beckxed what would want to mindrere the situation would be a problem to plus. But,
Starting point is 00:36:55 finally, it must be able there's a solution that we can elaborate, of preference in fuming a quantity
Starting point is 00:37:00 of siarrate in the 80. We're in a hospital, by the way. So, the solution that will be
Starting point is 00:37:12 to get the sand and the bar by helicopter on the fire, but in diagonal, and the pilot will come even
Starting point is 00:37:18 to get a max dose of radiation, but not enough for that the helicopter's cras. Ah, well, it's simple, finally.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Other good news, after a brief 306 hour of exposition to the retombes radioactive fudroyant,
Starting point is 00:37:32 we've finished by evacue the Ville of Pripate, but in it's not possible. Attention,
Starting point is 00:37:37 attention, attention, abitant of Prikate, the Council Municipal you inform that in reason of a leger incident of
Starting point is 00:37:45 nothing to anything at the central electric of Chernobyl, we are constrained to evacuate the population of a fashion super-temporary. Three days,
Starting point is 00:37:54 but you're quite a maximum of the age, bad, the nouriture and all your papers important, just in the
Starting point is 00:38:02 case, attention, attention. 116,000 evacue who reverton never their maison. By course,
Starting point is 00:38:08 the evacuation arrive for insid at point, because the 28 April, the Swede, the Swede
Starting point is 00:38:12 which is found at no more of 1,200 kilometers, detect a suspect hoax of radiation in the air. And he's reached to calculate that it came to Chernobyl. Some hours later, the Americans have already took these photocatellites
Starting point is 00:38:24 in the 1980, and the newveled the tour of the world, which obliges the Party Communist to make a declaration, some of all the conic. The 26th
Starting point is 00:38:33 April, there would have had an accident at the central nuclear of Chernobyl, but all is under control. Save that... Camarad Cherbina!
Starting point is 00:38:49 Ah, Camarad, Legassov. What, again? But good news? Well, no, contrary. He would seemer that, in force to garrochet of the sand and the board on diagonal,
Starting point is 00:39:01 what is a miracle. All that we have created, it's a couch that emprisoned the incandies radioactive devened so much show that he commons to
Starting point is 00:39:11 to make fonder the betton the bedo the planchet create a corium a material
Starting point is 00:39:17 semi-liquid radioactive comparable to the lav And parnie me your mumbo-jombo scientific
Starting point is 00:39:24 and explain me that in a phrase like I heard a podcast in the
Starting point is 00:39:27 char if he can't pass across the planche that he is present
Starting point is 00:39:31 presently in presentment he will inevitably fall in total the
Starting point is 00:39:36 water that's accumulated a cause of the pompier what could create instantanement an other explosion
Starting point is 00:39:42 of vapor toxic that ejector even more of material radioactive in the air. Baird, it would be a good for the safety,
Starting point is 00:39:51 all that's all right to try to find a solution in enchaning the cigarettes like the solution of clop soviatic
Starting point is 00:39:57 it's going to get to get to the car in the water in soud of plonger
Starting point is 00:40:02 with the water ultra-contamined radioactive to the manual, to manually open the valves and
Starting point is 00:40:08 vided the basins so the reactor. A mission epic that we'll baptize the Esquade of Suicide because we were convinced that
Starting point is 00:40:15 would have come from there without minimum a cancer that brie in the barrage, they will be able reach.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Detai, Encouraging. Yeah. Of many media, and the propaganda of the party
Starting point is 00:40:26 will insinue that are more in hero for their patry, but all the world in the esquade
Starting point is 00:40:31 of suicide of a survive, there is one who is in 2005 of an attack cardiac, and the two other were still alive in 2025, eh, well...
Starting point is 00:40:40 Detain, discourageant. Oh! Today, we know that the Corium, the lava radioactive, had already started to see-gootting in the basin before that the water could be drained, and, finally, it would just
Starting point is 00:40:53 solidified in the water without fair of explosion, so, all that for anything. Camarad, Cherbina! What, again? Good news? But, yeah, sure, that no.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Voye you now that the water is drained I'm fear that the cure in fusion can risk
Starting point is 00:41:10 to pass at the soil and contaminate the nap friatic rending inhabitable
Starting point is 00:41:16 all the Ukraine and a great party of Europe. Ah, and I imagine
Starting point is 00:41:21 that we can't just be more more of and the
Starting point is 00:41:24 replaced by the coffee? But it's an excellent idea, is that I
Starting point is 00:41:30 can you bomb a cigarette? So at this stage, if at this stage, believe it or no, the solution
Starting point is 00:41:35 is, one the first very simple. It's suffie to make a call a quantity dis-reasonable to mineur
Starting point is 00:41:40 to creus a tunnel directly to the reactor, and installs a kind of sandwich of graphite and of
Starting point is 00:41:46 bitton that would make office of surface of refodism for diffus the shower and stabilise the
Starting point is 00:41:52 sun? Are you sure that's the solution the most simple, legassov? It's that or,
Starting point is 00:41:56 if I'm I'm going to 25 ton of azote liquid per year for to guard
Starting point is 00:42:00 the soil and I'll just all right. It's just it can't be a coffee glassed. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Okay. We have required to how much of minors exactly? 450 minors
Starting point is 00:42:19 who are working on shift continue 24 hours on 24 on 24 for 24
Starting point is 00:42:22 during a 15th of a year, a challenge that certain it was
Starting point is 00:42:27 they were in bobette direct in radiation. But in same time I can to understand.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Some sometimes, we're to be about about I'm going to be able to this moment.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Wanted you more more than how we're doing more on the podcast? Detail, discourageage
Starting point is 00:42:39 oh, I'm doing a pattern. The time they finish to creus the fire it's already
Starting point is 00:42:46 arrested of himself, his combustible radioactif immobilized in a way quite secure
Starting point is 00:42:51 in the soil. The tunnel was 100 superflued finally, we're going to be
Starting point is 00:42:56 before the 450 minors could be well, all pogned a good dose mortal of radiation for a ryan. Rended there, the problem
Starting point is 00:43:04 the more pressing at their air is to need to need the hundred tons of debris radioactive on the to-the-to-o-complete, which continue to empoisoned the
Starting point is 00:43:11 Europe all complete. Camarad, Cherbinah! What again? We must, start to be close to the problem, no? It's,
Starting point is 00:43:19 it's worse than all, the worst-per-to-too- telecommanded that we've made to cleaner the Toys, have instantanement been busied by the radiation.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Okay, so we're going to use of these sort of bio-robot? It's the term that we're using for real, and just as we're being clear, the biotobos, it was, just a way to say, des humans.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Detail dark. Yeah, so it's not more than 5,000 bio-robot who are going to needy-the-to-nett, at a grand coup of 90-second to ramace a maximum of debris radioactive the
Starting point is 00:43:56 most quickly because there was zero equipment adequate for the normally you're you're just the right to make a pass of
Starting point is 00:44:02 a manage like a year, but the more the more hard to do you return to six times. And for
Starting point is 00:44:07 to disinfecting, it's simple, it's suffice to buy a vodka before to die of cancer. Detai dark vegan.
Starting point is 00:44:16 The last step of the needoyage it's going to gone all the animals of the region
Starting point is 00:44:21 that's softage or domestic. In effect, the radioactive, a force to consume the nouriture, of the water contaminated, and to absorb the pushire radioactive in their
Starting point is 00:44:31 furrure, we'll demand to some of bi-robot, to well-wloor the euthanasia. All the animals of the region. By where you commence? The chasseurs are annually there and they're using never. Brief, after that, it's just to
Starting point is 00:44:46 decreted an zone of exclusion of 2,600 km-carre around the central, Construing a sarcophage in beton to isolate the rest the reactor number 4, lance a process bidon in which we're condone diatlov and Brioucanov
Starting point is 00:45:00 and all the other responsible at 10 year to pelage of nage and make a beau chou rose on the affair Chernobyl. Cherbina will
Starting point is 00:45:08 die in 1990, possibly of an empoisonment mortal at the radiation but we don't because one of the first affairs that was done in
Starting point is 00:45:15 1988 to protect the U.S.S., which anyways will finish one long later. It's to sign a decree like what the medicine have
Starting point is 00:45:22 not the right to cite the radiation as cause of his disset. Trey possibly by radiation but Ch.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Legasov, he, will tend to have passed some reform of security to avoid a second
Starting point is 00:45:32 catastrophe, but it will be seen an attack to the integrity of the U.S. So,
Starting point is 00:45:37 we will exclude the Consin Scientific of Research Nuclearer, he will be subircelling of the
Starting point is 00:45:42 part of his pairs and he will spend at the last month the second anniversary of
Starting point is 00:45:47 Chernobyl. End. The fan, moat of the history, with a grand h. Well, what's we can try to all that? Croyed me, I'd have been to say, nothing to peer than the USSR,
Starting point is 00:46:02 but, unfortunately, all part to believe that Chernobyl is certainly a trist combination of error human and of defoes of fabrication of a central
Starting point is 00:46:09 nuclear-batted for having a bonus in a world communist, where all the world partage all, but people
Starting point is 00:46:15 don't, let's not fash that the U.S.S. But at all the other of that, one of the repercussions is to have created a comprehensible mega-trauma social
Starting point is 00:46:23 face to the energy nuclear, that's what we're talking, on is a sum of security, but when it's a lot, it's really bad, but it's
Starting point is 00:46:30 not often, but it could deciming the humanity, but it's not often, but it could be. And, today, again,
Starting point is 00:46:37 40 years after the catastrophe, we're on recant always the countercoup, particularly in Ukraine and in Belarusi,
Starting point is 00:46:43 where the population even, at this day, shows the toll of cancer more than the way of these
Starting point is 00:46:48 joyeus particles radioactive don't know of the sky like a bordey of a nose
Starting point is 00:46:52 mortals. Hey, want you a note positive to finish? The animals like the
Starting point is 00:46:58 loup and the cair have come to come back to Chernobyl, to be to be able, and even
Starting point is 00:47:03 to prosper in the ruins of the village on which the nature repran per
Starting point is 00:47:07 a few a few its role, the moral of the human finally
Starting point is 00:47:11 by sote the land, it will be been correct. I'm called Charles Beauchinne, and the Couchemore
Starting point is 00:47:17 is going to be in a next episode. The worst moment of the history with Charles Beauchin is an idea original of Charles Beauchin, To text and at the research, Charles Beauchin, Anne Ellen Prevost and Francois de Grand Prix,
Starting point is 00:47:38 at the realization Barbara Judith Caron, on montage Lucie Fornazon, O'Sone, the studio Lachop. At the coordination Clement Turpah at the production Rosalie Granger.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Productor executive Raphael Uismans and Philip Lamar The PIRBOMON is a production of Urbania If your cousin son de same
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