Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - Breaking Down Harry Jowsey's Ego

Episode Date: January 7, 2025

Join me and Harry Jowsey for an episode full of highs and lows as we discuss his newfound celibacy, why he's getting serious about a relationship, how he's evaluating himself as a husband and dad, A.I. responding to every person in his Instagram DMs, debating about how to approach asking girls out, and the most romantic thing he's done. And, Harry gets emotional opening up about his dad's recent passing through assisted dying. A word from my sponsors:YNAB - Listeners of Let's Be Honest can claim an exclusive three-month trial, with no credit card required at www.YNAB.com/HONESTLMNT - Get your free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase at drinklmnt.com/HONEST.OLLY - Let's do wellness on your terms, whatever that looks and feels like to you. Fund us at Walmart or Target near you or at OLLY.com. Disclaimer: These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any diseaseCookUnity - Go to https://www.cookunity.com/HONEST for 50% off your first week! Thanks to CookUnity for supporting the show!Cymbiotika - Go to cymbiotika.com/HONEST for 20% off your order + free shipping todayHero Bread - Keep the carbs out of summer without compromising flavor with Hero Bread. Get 10% off your order at hero.co and use code HONEST at checkoutFor more Let's Be Honest, follow along at:@kristincavallari on Instagram@kristincavallari and @dearmedia on TikTokLet's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari on YouTubeProduced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This is Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality TV, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Oh, there you go. You're welcome to Let's Be Honest Uh oh, hello You brought a little ice breaker with you

Yeah, I know, I just sort of make it a little bit easier Who is this? I got her yesterday, ow, ow, okay Her name's Kai, and she's The King Charles, something that I don't know anything about Great, so what made you get a little puppy? My friend Alison Hannigan was like Oh, I'm gonna go get these two dogs for Christmas, these two puppies. And then I was

like, oh, just send me videos. And then she sent me videos and I was like, can you just give me the lady's contact number? And then I just drove there yesterday and got it. It was like an hour and a half away. And so here you are, a new dad. I know. What were you thinking? Well, we've got another one. And I was like, he needs a friend. She's the cutest thing I've ever seen. She really is adorable. She's perfect. And doing what she needs to do. Like there was like 30 girls in here before.

You walked into Dear Media and every girl just flanked you. Yeah, now I know. How do you get a girlfriend? The ultimate chick magnet. Wait, so you were telling me it's you've already, she's worked for a pickup line already in the last 24 hours. So I was like with my friend. I was like watch me work I'm gonna show you how to do it

So you could because I told him to do it as well And I sent all of I was on the way to pick up the dog actually sent it three three three So oh, are you a big into science? Yeah, I love a sign. Yeah, I said, hey, I know you're busy So no stress on reply, but I really don't know who else to ask about this I'm really in a massive dilemma. And then I just sent three photos of the dog options I was like, hey, which one poor girl was freaking out and she goes Harry Nances all three and then I'm like, well, you know help It's like good it's a good like to get I don't know people interested

Absolutely. Although I feel like you probably don't struggle in that department. Like you need help getting girls interested. I gotta get this puppy so I can talk to girls. Oh my gosh. Okay, wait, so you have a podcast now. Yeah. So no.

Am I in trouble? Uh oh. I wanna bring up everything you've ever said. Oh fuck. No, I'm curious, being the one who's usually interviewed and then going into the podcast world, which side do you prefer being on? I love interviewing people.

You do? Yeah, because it's like, I don't know, I feel like this space is always about like us. Yeah. I don't know, I feel like a bit of a dick the whole time when I'm like, oh, I'm doing this, I'm doing that, I'm so cool, like listen to me. I like to hear other people talk because then I learn so much. I love that. Especially with girls, you're like, oh my God.

Like yesterday, we had on Sex with Emily. Oh, I love her. I didn't know how complex vaginas were Yeah, now you know. You can piss with a tampon in is insane. Like that was fucking crazy You didn't know. See it's so funny boys always think it's the same hole, right? She said there's three. I said where? Well including your your booty. Yeah, exactly. You didn't know this this and she said don't eat a bum and then go to the vagina Yeah, it's always other. Yeah, you gotta wipe front to back. This is like girl 101 I love that you're just now learning this though. This is so stressful because I got this after a few drinks I'm licking everything so I'm like now gonna worry about which way you're wiping Crazy, I love that you had her on though.

She's a dream guest. She's great. She's the best. Who has been your favorite person to interview? Gosh, that's a really good question. I feel like, I think she was probably up there. She's up there. I like the conversations where you don't have to ask questions

and it just keeps happening. And it's fun. Yeah. And just people have a million stories. OK, go pee on something. She's about to. But I love that. It's fun. And, and just people have like a million stories. Okay, go pee on something. Yeah, she's about to I love that it's like fun and like people that are like outside of my world because I'm kind of yeah You know how it is. Yeah TV. It's like yeah. Yeah exactly. Some people are like sponges and they're boring

It's like there's nothing worse than a bad interview. Oh, you're like, oh my god I don't even know how to get out of this hole. I know I remember this is when I used to have a podcast before I Had these guys on and it was the hardest thing I've ever done in my entire life Like and there was eight of them for the interview was 20 minutes What but also eight people's a lot just I just thought it was gonna be three guys and then just kept jumping in Oh, and say shit and we had it scheduled in for an hour and a half and after 20 minutes I was like, guys, I'm actually out of questions.

No way. Thank you so much. Never aired it. Never even aired it? Like what a waste of time. Isn't that such a bummer? It was so annoying. I'm like, why is your manager grabbing the microphone, getting involved?

Like dude, it's a boy band. This is, get out. Just get out. Who is your dream guest? My dream guest? I feel like I should say someone really like. Yeah, put it out there into the universe. I'm thinking like someone that you're like oh it's a really good conversation but like

yeah personally I just want to have like talk to Drake or like Justin Bieber. Okay yeah. I just want to hang out with them. Yes 100%. Or like maybe my celebrity crush because then. Which is who? There's like there's so many. There's a million.

There's so many. Gosh I don't know. Give me one. Well actually just Dieb Sabrita Carpenter. Oh good for you. Oh I like that for you. It didn't work like there's no reply. There's so many. There's a million. Gosh, I don't know. Give me one. Well, actually just DM Sabrina Carpenter. Oh, good for you. Oh, I like that for you.

It didn't work, like there's no reply. No response. How long ago did you DM her? Sometimes it takes a minute. Yeah, no, I just like, I'm like hot and cold. You're like, no, it's been weeks. Oh, yeah, no, this has actually been months. Uh, this is-

This is before Barry. It's been years, yeah. No, it was right on the day that- Might be a little too soon. No, I was like, hey, you want another accent? Oh, that's good. I like that. But then I usually go like, I usually, because sometimes I don't know what to do. Like, okay, so my friend Dom laughs at me because you can't unsend some messages sometimes. You can't?

Yeah, like when some people... I didn't know that. Yeah, if you go to fire at one and then you can't unsend it, you can't send anymore Oh your- no, you're saying just like your philosophy is you should do that. No, no, no You actually cannot unsend a message on Instagram. So if you go to DM someone Yeah, and and they you don't follow each other whatever else it would just say like message request invite or some shit Okay. Yeah, yeah, you can't send it anymore. You can't unsend it. So I got drunk and I was trying to message Drake. I see yeah, and I just message him. Yes, sir And I'm like, what was it? What was I saying? You're like shit And send it and then okay So because they haven't accepted it then you can't then send them another one. I said I'm gonna lie to that

And then I said mr. Beast one like the other day. I was like, yo, let me know I'll pull up Stop drinking So maybe when you're drinking, lay off the DMs. Well, I just think I'm so cool. What are you saying to the girls if this is what you're saying to the guys? Yes, it matters. And how often are we DMing girls, Harry? Well, not anymore.

Oh, is this off the table now? I'm celibate. Oh, OK. How long has that been going on for? A while. OK. Like a week? Celibate's like just no sex, right?

I mean, typically. Yeah, no no it's been a couple months. Okay good for you. This has been a conscious decision? No no my dad died and I was like I'm not horny. That'll do it. That'll do it. But then I'm also like I'm not talking to anyone I was like ah. No that's good. You know what I'm just gonna like lay off it for a bit and then as soon as I got back to LA, I'm like, I'm just sick of hanging out and like, oh, what are you doing? Oh, friction lovers. I know. I know.

Give me a break. So you find it hard to date in LA? Yeah. It's always a pissing contest as well. Yeah. Everyone's always like, oh, look at this. I don't care. I know.

Let's read a book. Oh my God. I love this for you. I love this new era. I don't really read, but it's like audio books. I'm just trying to sound smarter. Let's listen to an audio book together. Let's watch my puppy attack me.

So much better. Well, yeah, this puppy's, okay, so I've heard, I have this medium who I love, and she says puppies bring in new energy. So like a puppy will bring in someone potentially for you. Do you want to be in a relationship? Yeah, there was, well, yeah, no. Do you know what you want?

Yeah, no, I just had like a million thoughts. Okay, first off, you had what you think? Legit. As soon as I got back, I cleared out, like for some reason, someone came over me, cleared out all my closets, like everything. Love this. I'm like, I need to move. Like I need to get out of here. I need to buy a farm and run away because I'm not happy here.

And then the next thing that was going on is I think because I spent so much time with my family, I'm like, oh, I should probably be serious about a relationship now because my mom was like, I really want a grandkid. My dad passed and he was like, you'd be a great father. You need to have a kid and all this stuff. So I was like, I really got in my head. I've got four sisters and they've got 12 kids.

So that was a lot running around. I'm like, oh, this is actually really, really nice. And I want to join the clan. Like, I want to join the little tribe. Yeah. But then I was looking at myself and I'm like, well, am I really presenting myself as someone that is a good boyfriend or a good husband or something like that? So it made me really put myself in a potential partner's shoes and go what is good about this guy and

what is bad about this guy and do I see him being a father and then I was like well I'm not really I'm not really there yet so I really need to do the groundwork to get myself more presentable more attractive and more like I guess locked in on who I want to become so that's what's been going on. I'm impressed. Well no I am I think I think a lot of people go through life and they don't they never take a step back and look in the mirror and be like okay what do I need to be doing to improve so I'm I think this is amazing. Well yeah because I was thinking about like the type of woman I want to attract

and then I'm like well if that woman won't there's no chance that woman's ever gonna be with a guy like me. Oh wow. So what can I do to make sure that I'm like well if that woman one there's no chance that woman's ever gonna be with a guy like me Oh, wow, so what can I do to make sure that I'm? That that guy for that person. Yeah, I'm sitting here like and I think everyone does it like oh, I deserve this These are my standards all this stuff, but then it's like well you haven't got that person yet Mm-hmm, so what are you gonna? Do different that's gonna help that person come with your life So that's where I came back, and I'm trying to read is listen to as many books. And they're sped up as well. It's like two X. I'm like I don't know what he's saying but I'm like

this is good. This is good shit. Zero take away from it but you did listen. Yeah I'm like look at how many books I did this. Tell me about that one book. You're like I have no idea. Yeah and the thing is I've only done one and a half books. That's amazing. Yeah, and they're picture books. So it's great. Great. Yeah, it's going well. Yeah.

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Okay, wait, what are you looking for in a girl? What is the type of girl that you wanna be attracting in? I think the biggest, like I want someone that's so passionate about their career and like what they're doing. And someone that has their own life. The biggest problem that I've had is, yeah, you can chew my Rolex.

Yeah, no problem. Rip it apart, princess. I think it's that being in the same industry or in the same world, people are really lazy. Life's pretty good when you're just taking selfies and doing brain deals like that. Good for you. But I just realized that it doesn't stimulate me mentally. And I also and I also realized like I'm not that person that's like super obsessed with everything I'm doing and like putting all this stuff to the side. So now I'm like, all right Well, I got to be the person that I want to attract and I want that person that's obsessed with their career

someone that has like a great sense of humor someone that is Can like take a step back and like look at themselves as and be like, I can be better here or there. And someone that's really good at communicating. Because something I think everyone is actively working on, even myself. Like I say, oh yeah, I'm really good at it. But there's a lot of moments where I would just shut off and run into the woods. Yeah, no, absolutely. And communication is everything.

Oh my god. I know. It's crazy. So you've been on multiple shows trying to find love. Oh my god. I know. It's crazy. So you've been on multiple shows trying to find love. So do you find, well, is it easy for you to open up and be vulnerable on camera? Or do you find that it's really hard? No, I just forget that they're there.

And I'm also like, you know what? People are going to judge me anyway. I may as well get really crazy. We get fucked up. Yeah. All crazy and like vulnerable. Like, yeah, yeah. You're just putting it all out there. I'm just like, well, whatever's gonna make the edit is gonna make the edit.

It's so true. So you can't try to control it. I'm not gonna control it. Yeah. Because there's people that go on and they're so worried about how they're gonna come off or what they're gonna say. And then they just look like they're little stink bitches. So I'm like, I'm just gonna do everything. It's probably not gonna make the edit. But I'm probably gonna look like a sausage. But at least I was vulnerable.

Sausage. It's probably not gonna make the edit, but I'm probably gonna look like a sausage, but at least I was Do you feel like that's why people love you so much and you've been able to Take those shows and parlay it into something else because of that authenticity I'd know I just think like I'm just a big ball of chaos and everyone's like we should probably like He's gonna crash out at some point we gotta watch him no, I disagree I think because what you just said is so true I think people go on to these shows with an agenda and they're like I'm gonna be this person this sidebar You can't do that. They're gonna get any screen time exactly and they get mad at me I'm like go cuz you're just being you Should have kissed the guy

I know see loves all the wires. They don't want to hear what I'm going to say anyway. Come here, come here. What does a successful relationship mean to you? Gosh, jeez. Come here, Bubbly. Here, you can take her. Hi, Angel. She bit me up. Damn, a successful relationship. Damn, what are those?

Hmm. Yeah, do you have any ideas? I know, no. No, I think that, yeah. I'm the same, I'm terrible. But it makes you learn a lot, which is great. It does, no it does. No, I just think someone that like, you're just super comfortable around someone that

motivates you. Yeah. And I think someone that makes you, that it just, it doesn't feel like a burden, which is kind of the bare minimum. But I've been in relationships where like, you'll say something and you'll just be afraid of an answer or afraid to say the wrong thing or whatever else. So I feel like a successful relationship for me is just someone who is it's just easygoing and it's great and they inspire you and exciting doesn't get boring. Yeah, and like you know, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like that would for me that's kind of it

but what's been your longest relationship? What I think like two weeks. No, I'm joking. I think a year and a half. Yeah, that's substantial. Yeah. Yeah. When you look back at all of your relationships, is there a theme to why they didn't work out or have they all just been different? I think not speaking on my partners, because there's so many good qualities about them and so many bad qualities.

But I think about myself, I'm just thinking like, I think the biggest theme is saying, like saying more than what I'm doing. I'm saying I'm ready, saying I want this, saying I want all this stuff. But then now, like in hindsight, looking back, I'm like, well, no, it was fucking around. I was maybe I was watching porn or maybe I was liking girls photos or maybe I wasn't I wasn't fully in there. And I was also like,

I'm in LA with my boys and we're having fun or whatever else. So I think my actions never really match my words. And I think that's the overall theme, these relationships leading up. And then now I'm like, okay, well, okay, it's time to do the opposite, is just do actions and no words

and don't text any girl ever. Yeah, ever again. And be afraid of them. So was that, those were problems then in your relationships? Yeah, I think just looking at like myself, I don't know, I don't want to, because yeah, I don't want to throw any shade to any of my exes because, you know, we obviously had that beautiful time together and I want to give them all the respect in the world. But I think me personally in each situation definitely was little things like that.

And also kind of, you know how it is like being on reality TV, being like the coolest person in town for a month. Everyone's like DMing you, everyone wants to hang out. And then it like kind of dies down. And I think growing up in a small town in Australia, I was kind of like, oh my God, the world is amazing. All these girls that I really... It's fun to get attention. Yeah, I'm like, wow, oh my god, the world is amazing. Yeah. All these girls that I really- It's fun to get attention.

I'm like, yeah, I'm like, wow, this is great. Yeah. It's so good. Yeah. I need more of it. I know. No, it is. It's fun.

Well, I think it sort of becomes addicting for a lot of people. For sure. It's like athletes too. It's like anyone who gets this unusual amount of attention, it's hard to break away from it. Silly. Have you ever had your heart broken? Yeah. How many times?

Every day. Yeah. Shoot, that's so many DM? Every day. Every day. Yeah. She'd have sent me DMs, the girls don't reply. Like this sucks. Yeah, Sabrina Carpenter broke your heart. Camilla Camero. Okay, who else are we DMing? I met her though, and she's like, have we met before?

And I was like, have we got mutual friends? And I'm like, fuck, what did I send this girl? She's probably seeded. Oh yeah. What did I send her? I probably- Wait, pull it up. I want to see. Okay. I love this. What did I say? I probably pull it up. I want to see.

Okay. Love that. I swear to God, I probably like this was ages ago. Okay. So you're coming up with creative opening lines for all these people. I don't know the answer. Okay. I unsend them.

How can you want? I thought you can't unsend it. No, because I think some people, if they open it, if they check it, but they don't accept the message request, you can... I've figured it out. Wait, are you serious? Because there's been some people that it was like, so Camilla... So she saw it.

Couldn't accept, like couldn't change anything, I unsend it. Then I meet her and then it goes, oh, then it changes? So she saw it. So I was like, maybe she's seen it. Oh my God. But now I just mention her in stories. Wait, because I open them all the time, but I don't click accept. Okay, yeah, maybe that's-

Good to know. I'm not opening anything ever again. No, they're great. No, my god. Open them all. Open them all. Yeah, open the floodgates. Yeah.

No, I actually have my AI on. Have you got that? No. It automatically replies. No. And it says what? No, okay, this is crazy. So there's- So everyone is getting a reply who DM'd you.

Holy shit! Every girl's like, he responded! Okay, the funniest thing was, because the AI just makes up stories about me, I guess. I don't know. It goes through... Because it's with meta. They're trying to figure it out. But it goes through your content and your stories and figures out how you talk and whatever

else and figures out what's going on. We reply like Harry Jazzy AI. The stupidest thing that happened recently is I posted that my dad had passed. And I read four different messages of it saying that it was different people. Different one of my friends that had died. Because people are like, oh, who passed? There was one that was Sam King casting the guy who? Cast me on to what the handle and I was like wait. Whoa like no he's still alive

No, it's just eating rumors. Yeah, I was like whoa What do I be wavy? I'm just my AI even lies. I'm like what is going on? I was a fucking asshole. Yeah, there was even like what was your favorite memory as a kid to go running around the house naked And my parents would always be like put your pants on Harry And I'm like where the fuck where the fuck did that come from? See this is why AI is a problem. No but it's great. I don't know.

Because my goal is like someone is going to have a crazy conversation and believe it's me and go on TikTok and do a crazy story time like guys Harry jazzy is fucking nuts and it's going to be like. It's going to be on TMZ. I can't wait. It's literally not true. Yeah like literally AI. My AI came up with that. Yeah. That's so genius. No, but the craziest one was I messaged this girl,

beautiful, amazing person. Who? No, I can't say this one. Because we're still holding out hope for her. Yeah, I think I might love her. I don't know why I'm patting the table. What's the dog? No, but I messaged her and then she replied and then the AI replied. Oh, no. What did your AI do to you? What did it say? You can't unsend AI messages. Jesus. You need to remove the AI. No, because it's like if you don't follow each other or if I don't follow you, it will just reply automatically.

So I've got friends from like high school. They're like, hey, so sorry about your dad passing. Hey, all good. No worries. Reef sucks. And I'm like, like this guy knows my dad. Like, stop. This is honestly the funniest thing I've ever heard. Good no worries reef sucks. I'm like you fuck like this guy knows my dad There's a like guys like stop oh my god with that first idea she was like oh She was like oh, I didn't realize it was AI DMing me, and I was like oh no no go like I'm so embarrassed No, I'm like here's my number. I promise AI won't reply

Then she never responded no We'd be talking a lot. Okay, that's exciting. When are you gonna ask her to go on a date? I tried and what happened? What do you mean? Well, I was away and I'm working on it. I'm working on it Does she live here? Yeah On a date tonight Well, no, okay. Here's my approach and tell me if it's crazy because I got them in my Well, whatever I'm just gonna get it. Fuck it. I'm gonna ruin myself. So I went Obviously I was like kind of bored in New Zealand

We're not bored because dad was sick, but I was like in there had a lot of spare time And yeah, what have what do I really enjoy doing? And then what would be a good? Date idea love that then I was waiting till I come back and I was gonna be like, hey multiple choice You these ideas. Okay, that's cute. We cool dates, but then I'm like There's phase one dates and this phase two dates Yeah, so I could only do four or a bottom one that says all the above and then phase two and then phase three So the first one is naked horseback riding. No, I'm joking.

No, it's not perfect. That's the first date idea. Phase one, when do you get to phase three? No, it's horseback riding, pottery class, salsa class, go out for dinner, make dinner, Sakona National Park, beehive experience, mystery destination, snowboarding weekend, or St. Lucia. Whoa, okay, but hold on. Some of these are like for first date you want to go snowboarding

or go to St. Lucia? Well no that's phase two. Oh we're in phase two. Okay okay. No I just put them together because I was freaking out. Wait I this is so cute. You had good ideas. That's awesome. I want to do it. That is all I have beehives by the way. Do you actually? Yeah I do. I have my own honey. Yeah it's the coolest. I don't actually put on the suit though. Have you got the flow hive? The flow hive? What's no? What are you talking about? I don't even know what kind of hives I have to be honest. I know cuz I This you don't even you don't even have to pull out the I'm not doing anything now

I have a guy that comes with a suit and the whole thing. I know I'm kind of a fake beekeeper What are you doing? It's all no this. No, this you just turn on a tap. Seriously? Oh, is this like what David Beckham has? I feel like I saw this. Has he got this? I think so. Well, this is what I want to get.

Okay, that's awesome actually. Because I grew up beekeeping. You did? Yeah. Oh wow. We had like three hives. Well then you need like the legit hives. You can't do this like half ass bullshit.

Okay, but we're in LA. True. Yeah, but look, now you're changing. You're changing. True. You can't do that. I don't know. Hold on let's get back to these dates. These are really good ideas. So we have experiences, the actual thing you can do here. Okay this is very cool. So what did you, you didn't send those yet? No. Okay when did you get back to LA? A couple days ago. Okay so here's my issue with guys. I'm like on this kick right now where and I'm not saying. I just triggered you. I'm like. this kick right now

No, and this is not my thing this is you but I feel like We're living in this world right now. I'm calling it wounded feminine energy where guys are living in that Instead of just like taking charge and being like I'm gonna plan the date I'm gonna come pick you up like I had a guy the other day be like well You're really the Nashville locals, so I'm gonna let you figure it out and I was like I'm not come pick you up. Like I had a guy the other day be like, well you're really the Nashville locals, so I'm gonna let you figure it out. And I was like, I'm not planning this date. No, I'm sorry. And it was a first date.

So I just like, let's like take some initiative. I don't hate the multiple choice because it really tells me to put a lot of thought into it, but you need to be like, hey, I'm back in town. I wanna see you. Let me take you out. But I'm also like, well, I'm celibate. So.

Oh, that's true. You're fucked. Yeah. Maybe she'll appreciate that. You think? No, no. I think it's cute for the first day. No, I don't know. I you're right there.

But I think my problem is like, I get a, maybe this is a lot of people get afraid of like getting a bruise ego. And I'm like, of course I'm going to say, oh, that's not masculine. Let's go salsa dancing. And she's like, fuck off. Like I've got two of their feet. I'm like, of course, I'm going to say, oh, that's not masculine. Let's go salsa dancing. And she's like, fuck off. Like, I've got two other feet. I'm like, go. So do I. I like dance like a drunk flamingo.

But like, let's go. But it's just fun. I think. OK, but I think that's the issue right now is guys are so afraid of their yoga getting bruised. Let me ask you like how your take on this. OK, because one thing that I use, I do it. One thing that I do is that I'll say I'm already planning something and say, do you want to come along?

No. Cause that's easier. No. Cause I'm like, oh, I'm going to go to the beach today. Do you just want to come? No, no. That helps my ego. Exactly.

It's where we cannot be asking girls out from a place. Okay, tell me how to do it. You need to, cause I think girls need to feel wanted. So you need to be like, Clearly I want them all. I think that's the problem wanted so you need to be like You want too many people you're DMing every fucking girl No, but it has to be like you want to make them feel special like I'm back in LA. I want to see you Yeah, I was thinking we could go salsa dance

I know it's kind of out of our out of my comfort zone, but it could be fun like something like that No saying Fuck your ego egos are the worst thing for guys. Okay, if you're gonna ask do you ask guys updates fuck no No, because I'm the girl and I'm Corded I want you to pull up 2024 equality I'm not here for equality damn it. Okay. Are you romantic? It sounds like you are trying What's the most romantic thing you've done for a girl? Oh gosh the hot air balloon That's cute, but it was with a lot of other people

Okay, I didn't really have money I didn't realize okay fine That's fair and I didn't realize I told her we're going skydiving so the whole drive at 4 a.m She was like anxious and she was freaking out. She's like fuck you. No, no way and then we get there It's a hot air balloon and there's a bunch of people here with a whole group. Yeah, 20 people in this basket Oh, that's fun. Yeah, this tiny basket and we're all just Like a nice just that is cute though. That's a cute idea. I was trying but what about you? What's your my romance? I was trying but what about you? What's your my romance? Yeah, I'm over here planning dates apparently hold on God. I'd really have to think about this. I've done the hot air balloon I did it on my honeymoon. I'm divorced now, so you know

Clearly that wasn't yeah, there were too many people as well. That's what happened Yeah, too many people it actually was just the two of us and our hot air balloon guy, which that's also awkward too Yeah, does he like look away? I mean, not really. You're like, so buddy. Tell me about you. I'm trying to think. I would have to like really sit here and think about it.

Yeah. Isn't that sad though? Same. I've done so many dates that are just so romantic that I just can't think of one. Hot air balloon. Yeah. So many just rushing by.

Yeah, wow every weekend When's the last time you went on a date never? Do you go on dates a lot no you don't you're not actually asking girls to go to dinner Is it more like you meet a girl at the club your seat? Well? Yeah, you're a ghost you should be Don't know how many more story times I can do before I'm like, I gotta check out. I don't know how many more three-part series I got left in me. How old are you, 27?

Yeah. So, do you, so you want to settle down? You think like you're next, are you like dating to find the one right now? I'm not even dating. I'm not even having sex. I know. But I'm getting ready because I've told everyone like,

you know, I'm planning to because I've got everyone like you know I'm playing like playing to marry. Okay, so you are that's the next Why because your parents your mom's putting pressure on you my mom needs a grandkid, but okay, you're 27. You're not 37 Well, I'm I feel like it my knees hurt. I got a lower back problems. No, you're too young for this shit. I'm 37 Low back problems. No you're too young for this shit. I'm 37 Fuck it sounds great. It's only downhill from here I feel like I need a couple kids at a little farm and a beehive. Okay, we're gonna get this farm Where do you want to live? Well? I want to go back to Australia. Oh you do then I'm also La you take your podcast Australia. You actually could you could do it there would you?

LA. You could take your podcast to Australia. You actually could. You could do it there. Would you? Yeah, I'm sure I could. I'm sure I could. This is a microphone and a camera. Pretty easy. Pretty simple shit. No one will listen, but... I don't know. What's your goal with your career, too? What's like the 10-year plan? Ten-year plan, I think, is to be more into hosting. Okay, yeah. Kind of step away from like, hey, this guy is a crazy sausage.

Like we, we just, like just a good guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To have some thumbs up would be nice from time to time. But I did a couple of movies, so hopefully. Okay. Hopefully that works. Yeah. And they want me for more.

There you go. So that's the goal is to kind of be a little bit more. Out of reality. Yeah, yeah. So I feel like I've done way too many dating shows how many shows have you done eight oh it's eight no I don't even want to name that's a lot the first one was Heartbreak Island oh yeah why did I think it was uh was it too hard to handle that was the one that kind of like that okay

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but Heartbreak Island was like a kind of a cross between I was like I think it was Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, but Heartbreak Island was like a kind of a cross between, I was like, I think it was like 19. It was the first time I actually manifested something. Oh, cool. So it was really crazy. But I was, it was a cross between like Survival, Big Brother and like Love Island. Oh, wow.

So no one knew what was going on, like how to win it or what was happening, but I won it with this girl. Oh. And then, and then I just got like really like, oh my God, I should do more of this stuff. Like, this is fun. And then to it, the handle came off. Got it. And that changed your life, right? Life changed.

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seen? I think the craziest thing is how quick people can change their mind. Like especially in an audience. Yeah. Because you feel like you work, there's been moments where I'm like I'm doing my absolute best to do the right thing and be the good guy in this situation. But like I can't tell you guys what is happening, but then everyone just flips and they're like, oh, we hate him?

And there's so many moments where I'm like, I realize that you just literally can't say anything or do anything right. So I think that's the hardest thing is I feel like you're doing so good and you're putting so much good work into your career and making your audience happy and entertaining them and then it just turns. I think that's what sucks.

And I think even like, it's how quick people can hate and like get comfy and even friends. I know. There's some people you do so much for. Like there's a couple friends recently, I remember I did so much for them over the past like year or so. And there are people that I like genuinely was like, oh, this is my best friend. Like this is my person. And then my dad dies and all I get is a like. not even a text and I was like wow we'd spent like

every day together. Oh such a bummer. And then I hear like them talking poorly about me behind my back and I'm like wait like what? Whoa. So like stuff like that and especially in LA it's like okay. It's hard out here to find good genuine people who really care about you and not just your celebrity but I feel like everyone goes through this. Wait you think I'm a celebrity? No. Oh! I was kidding! Fuck!

I was saying it better. I was like wow! Same old, same old! No but it's true I think when you have notoriety like that it's really tricky to meet people who care about you. Yeah. But I think everyone goes through this phase where you have your friends in your 20s and then you kind of start growing up and it sounds like you're in this like transitional phase

where unfortunately you do have to shed some people and then new people good people will come in. Well that's what I realized as well is so many of my old friends I love dearly like I just again I just think about like the man I want to become and does he have these characteristics that some of my friends have and that made me like really think like well I don't even said it to my brother I'm like you don't have to stop being friends with these people, but you just have to keep it at arms length Mm-hmm, because you still love them. They're still your best friend. They're still amazing

But you really need to focus on yourself because who knows when it's all gonna end Yeah, and it's gonna end for everyone. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of lame. No, I know but like But I love I'm excited for you in this phase. I feel like is it good I think it is cuz I feel like this is crying on the way over here No, cuz I do I feel like when you feel like your world is falling apart and everything is crumbling down That's when the next phase. Okay Jesus is that the vibe I'm giving up my world is crumbling down a boy. What is so much good? I've got a puppy This new energy is six five

Never be bad for you. No, but I think the shedding of some of this stuff just only brings in newness. It's good. I think this is an exciting phase. I hope so. I went down a rabbit hole and I'm like, okay, I was born in the year of the ox. Instead of trying to figure out, I was trying to figure out

if my Chinese New Year is going to be good next year. I love this so much. And then I'm like looking up my life path number and all this like crazy shit I'm like okay we're gonna be okay. I should have brought my tarot cards I think I'm a tarot card reader now. No you're not. No I am though. Spot on shit. Next time next time. Did you just do it for yourself? I'm doing it for my friends. Yeah I pull cards. I'm like great! Loads of money. Obviously this is not hard. I'm a tarot card reader. Wow. Wait so I saw you did Tyler Henry. Oh yeah. How was that experience? Crazy. He's amazing. He's incredible. Yeah I was on his show years ago. Really? Like probably nine years ago. Yeah no it was really crazy like but I I feel like it

was tough for him because there's five people on the couch, there's 45 minutes to do it. And I feel like you can see there's so much going on in his brain. It's been pulled in every direction and he's like doing his little scribble thing and he wants to give everyone a moment because obviously everyone's really excited to meet him. He's got a gift. So I felt bad in that sense. But then- You took up a lot of time or just you just felt bad in the crib. Yeah. Bad because like I felt like he had so much to tell us. But he was just restricted on time.

Yeah. But then I did Instagram live with him and I just asked dumb questions. I'm like, can you read animals? I put my other dog up. I was like, what is Bruce thinking? What was Bruce thinking? He wants more pets. I'm like, this guy's good. I'm great. He's a spawn. I get it. The son of pats. I'm like, fuck, this guy's good. I'm great. I get it.

I said nobody even Netflix. But no, apparently on it and I haven't watched it back because I'm too afraid. But my face was really red. I was really nervous. Probably like now I get red and my eyes get bloodshot. I get nervous. My neck gets like violently red. Everyone's like, oh, your son's bad. I'm like, no, I'm just scared. That's why I thought your life was falling apart. Oh, okay. Yeah. Because I think. Because you're running. No, but he said that someone really close to me is like really sick.

And I really didn't. Oh, wow. And then process it. And then all my comments like, hey, father was telling you that's gonna be. Wait, that's crazy. Yeah. Oh my shit.

Well, I also saw he said that you are destined for great things and that your path is much bigger than you even realize I gave him 25 K to say that Yeah, he didn't know we're on this show but like as soon as the camera cut to someone else I'm like he's an envelope Tell me some great shit brother. No Netflix is like we gotta keep him Yeah, he's making everyone feel really good No, I I that was I don't know. I don't know. But you seemed emotional from that.

Yeah, I think I've just been in a weird spot, you know, because the stuff with my family's been going on for a while, like with the whole stuff, and I think I've been in a push and pull of like, am I doing the right thing? Like, am I making people laugh? Like, there's been moments where I just feel really lost, and even on my podcast I see people like comment like oh Harry doesn't seem like himself. And so I think it was really weird because it was exactly what I

needed to hear but I didn't know that anyone knew that I needed that. Yeah. And it was tough because I'm like am I doing the right thing? I'm working my hardest. I'm trying to make everyone happy. I'm trying to meet as many people as I can. I'm doing my absolute best. I'm not trying to hurt anyone. Yeah. And then just to hear that I was like, oh fuck. Yeah, sometimes you need those little wake up calls. Okay, let me get my shit together. Yeah, if there's anything else nice you want to say about me, just let it out. That's it. That's all I have. Okay. Oh fuck. Damn it.

I'm just trying to fish for some more. Yeah, yeah. What else you got? You say you're a tarot card reader. Tell me I'm amazing. No, I can't. I can't tell you that. then I wouldn't be authentic. An authentic tarot card reader. No, I'm just kidding. Oh my god. I'm bugging with you. Wait, we were talking about signs. I think it was before we started recording, but have you gotten any signs from your dad? Have you been asking for signs from your dad? Crazy shit. Here we go. Because he passed and in New Zealand, my sisters were we're no one to take his

take in the body. We're going to keep him. We're going to clean him. We're going to get him dressed which was super noble. Yeah. I was afraid. My brain was like as soon as he goes put him in the chamber and let's get the ashes and let's go. But they're like no we did this because me and my sister have a separate mum. Oh okay. They did that with their mum and they said it was like a really beautiful experience. Wow. Bring the body back to the house and have a couple days with them and it was it was really therapeutic because you get to sit there and talk to them and whatever else but after he did pass I went away for a little bit and I came back and I

was sitting there just like talking to his body and because my dad we grew up like not believing anything because he grew up with religion forced on him and he said to us like we just want you to figure it out when you're 18. Make your own mind up. We don't want to force anything on you. We just want you to make your own decision. But the scary thing was the whole time before he was about to go, I was like, oh, what do you think is going to happen?

He's like, nothing. And I'm like, no, come on, man. There's got to be something. I believe that there's something. I just don't know what it is. I haven't got a word for it, but I feel like there is something and I feel like you're always going to be with me. And I remember I went back in the room and I was sitting there looking at him and I'm

like, dad, I know you're here. I was literally saying this to him. I was like, I know you're here. I know you're around me somewhere. Can you blow a candle out or make a bird hit the window or let a a tree fall down outside like let me something happen because I want to believe that you're still with me and that was I was sitting I was getting emotional and I was I kept getting angry I'm like like holding him like dad come on wake up motherfucker I was like let something happen and nothing happened and I'm like

damn maybe it is like maybe maybe this is. But then I gave him a hug and I kissed him and looked at my phone, it was 444. And I was like, wow, this is really crazy. And then I'm like, is that a sign? Is that, or am I just like fixating on things? And then there was another thing. So this is a pohnamu and it's like a thing in New Zealand where it's like a connection to your ancestors,

like very traditional like a New Zealand thing. And this was his that he was wearing and he told my sister that he wanted to give to me. But what they do, because my sisters are Maldi and which is like native New Zealanders. So when you get new Pounamu, you have to go and like wash it in running water and there's like a bit of a ritual around it. So I was with my brother-in-law and we were driving, we're going to this place called the Rewaka Source, which is like really cold water, but it's like flowing water. And we kept getting lost, like we kept getting lost. We were all over the place. And he's like, gosh, we just go back to the house.

We finally put it in the maps and everyone was already there. Everyone swam and did their thing and they were leaving. We were like on the other side of town. I was like, maybe we just go back to the house. And then I looked at the, when we were meant to get there, it was like 12, 22. And I'm like, we just go back to house and then I looked at the when we're meant to get there it was like 12 22 and I'm like maybe we're meant to go there and then he's like okay sweet and then we started driving and then like looking down I'm like fuck maybe we are meant to go here and then I look up in the car in front of us like the license plate had four four four in it

oh damn that's really crazy and then as we got closer the house near it was four four four I'm like okay dad I'll really crazy. And then as we got closer, the house near it was 444. I'm like, okay dad, I'll wash it. Like, give me a break. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah, yeah, it was really nice. I love that. But I think that's the beautiful thing

in I guess being a crazy optimist when someone passes is you look for every little sign. When I lost one of my friends at suicide, I just started looking at birds and I'm like, maybe that's him talking to me. And that gives me so much peace and comfort. And I think the best thing about the whole experience with that is that we just had, we had a couple months where we knew it was coming and there was this thing called assisted dying, which is, I don't know if it's a thing in the US. I haven't heard about this.

Oh, it's fucking, it's beautiful. It's an incredible experience, obviously really difficult, but they go through a rigorous testing and process to make sure you're eligible Pretty much what happens is you have to have a terminal illness so you can't just walk in and be like hey Yeah, I want to go but you have to have a terminal illness and my dad his situation kind of happened pretty abruptly and They're like alright. Well, you got like three to six months. Oh, wow. And my dad is, he's like such a strong and brave man. He's like, well, I don't want to lose my marbles. Like I don't want to lose my dignity.

I don't want anyone to have to like take care of me. Like I still want to be dad. Yeah. And, which I thought was incredible, but I was like, dude, like, fuck, like, hang on a little bit longer. We're all good. Like let's, let's wait till the nuts and bolts, like get a little bit longer. We're all good. Let's wait till the nuts and bolts start getting a little bit loose. Until you start forgetting words and stuff.

But he started to get to that point. But every step of the way, they're asking him if he's still down the door making sure no one's influencing him to do it. And I'd ask him, even on the day, I'm like, yeah, are you sure? We can always move it. We can go next week. Like, so what do they do? So they walk in.

So there's the doctor that we had was such an incredible guy. He was so beautiful and his energy was so amazing. And you could tell it was like such a gift that he was giving to people because again, like if you're terminal, you're kind of just waiting for the clock and you get to take control on your own, make the final decision. Yeah. Which was really beautiful, but there's two ways that you can go about it. One is like an IV and it's pretty quick and rapid.

Wow. Now there is a drink. Wow. Oh my gosh. So they walk in, they give like a Valium or some sort of like, Yeah. thing to help calm with anxiety. And then we had a, we had two separate rooms, but dad walked into the room and

then everyone, everyone said their piece to him, which is really difficult because I wrote a whole thing and I'm like, it's just kind of weird because I feel like there's so much more I'm going to say to you. And I feel like it wasn't everything, but I also feel like it's just weird because it's hard to process that the man who raised you is like, this is it. Like he's saying goodbye. Yeah, we said our stuff and then dad went to the doctor. He said, hey, I'm good to go now. Wow. And he gave him the drink and then he drank it. And then my dad was like, fuck, that tastes like shit.

So we're all like rushing around to get him like a whiskey. A chaser. Yeah, because I was like, fuck, he's going to have something. Like I bought him this expensive whiskey that he always loved. And I was like, fuck, have that. And then, yeah, it was just. How much time did he have then? That motherfucker went to sleep in three minutes.

Really? Yeah, so the IV takes a couple minutes, like two minutes or something. Whoa. The drink is meant to be 10 minutes. Oh my God. But my dad, I guess he just, just ready to go. He also hadn't been eating for months.

Aw. So he was like getting very frail and very like, yeah. So, it just hit him. It just hit him. And again, it was fucking, it was really intense because I was trying to make a joke to my siblings, which was terrible, it was a bad time. But like, because he started snoring

and I'm like, why the fuck has he got a snore guy? Like, why didn't he just go to sleep? Like, nice deep breaths. Not funny. Yeah, and everyone's like crying and I'm like why the fuck has he got a snore guy like when he just go to like when he just go to sleep Yeah, and everyone's like crying and I'm like Like holding okay was holding his feet Oh, yeah, cuz my sister told me my sister Sarah She said if you hold their feet you get all their magic powers when they go out So I was like I'm not like oh this whatever that's gonna be Yeah, I need this bravery. I can finally DM girls.

But yeah and then he goes just yeah the the breaths get slower and slower and then it stopped and that was fucking that was really intense because I was trying not to look at him. Yeah. Because I don't I don't I guess everyone deals with trauma differently like some people like were just like locked in my brother, my sisters were just so incredible. They were so focused on him, but I just couldn't stop. I was just a mess. Like I was trying to be funny.

I'm trying to like, that's how I deal with my trauma. I guess I just laugh and make silly jokes, but I remember just sitting there and like once they stopped, I was like, I don't know what to do. I just fucking, I left the room. I couldn't be there. I went and sat in the woods and just like cried. And then I called my mom and because my mom and dad

had divorced, she didn't know what was going on. She just knew he wasn't well. This is why it was a terrible trip because my mom got married a week before. Holy shit. Or like a couple weeks before. The highs and the lows. No, no, it was crazy.

So I flew to New Zealand. I was going back and forth over the last couple of months. And I get to New Zealand. We know that there's like a the clock is ticking. My mom's birthday is coming up. She's getting married on that weekend. So I like fly in and my dad was like, hey, like, don't tell her if she wants to know, she can call me.

And so I get there and I'm like, your mom can always tell something's wrong. And she knew something wasn't good with this health. And she was like asking me questions. I was like, mom, trying to do the right thing. Want to tell you because you need to know. But it was also my fault because I got on, when I got on the first flight to New Zealand, I sat down with my dad.

I said, look, I know your mom aren't on good terms, but you guys loved each other for 30 years. It would fucking kill me if you guys didn't say goodbye. New Zealand, I sat down with my dad. I said, look, I know your mom aren't on good terms, but You guys loved each other for 30 years It would fucking kill me if you guys didn't say goodbye Like it would really upset me if I like if I love someone as long as you guys did and had a incredible family It would really upset me if I was in your shoes and he got really emotional it was tough because I guess he's just not one of those guys that like Gets like that. Yeah, and so then I guess he's just not one of those guys that like gets like that. Yeah. And so then I guess I put the idea in his head and then I said the same thing to mom. I'm like

have a conversation. Um, but it they're both just very stubborn individuals. So they never had the call. Shoot. That actually kind of wrecks me. Yeah, it was really it was really sad because I remember I was driving with dad and I'm like let me just call her. Yeah, let me just call her like you guys go stop being so stubborn. I'll give her a call, be fine. And he's like nah, it's all good. But the thing is like they had such a incredible but toxic relationship towards the end of it. So it makes sense and also mom's got a new life. Yeah. And I fully like get it. I understand both sides. But again I like I just blame myself because it was my idea that I came in and I'm like, we should do this. Like a fairy.

Like, yeah, let's bring everyone back together. The family's got to be good again. Yeah. It didn't work out. No, that's okay though. You can't blame yourself for that. Yeah. It was a very up and down emotional trip. Yeah. Wow. Thanks for sharing all of that. Yeah there's a lot more happening. Oh I'm sure. I mean yeah. Grief is it's hard and it's like a rollercoaster and it'll come

in in waves for years. It's tricky. Yeah I saw someone he commented it was like a it's like a ball in a box. The box will get bigger over years but anytime the ball hits the side is when you feel the grief. So right now like I guess my ball's staying still, but as soon as I get in the car... Because your box is really small. Well, my ball's pretty big. When I'm alone, I know that the ball hit the side of the box, but I know it'll get bigger and bigger as time goes on. But I still feel it. I think I'm just super numb to it right now.

It hasn't really like, it hasn't hit you yet probably. Yeah, but I filmed so much stuff with my dad before he went. So I keep watching that. Oh, good. So it feels like, because of my podcast team, they're amazing, they gave me all the equipment. Cool.

So I went home and I asked him all these questions like about his life, about all the stuff. It was very inappropriate, my dad. It was very naughty. He was like, he called, I hope my sisters don't get mad, but he called my sister's mom the juice extractor. Oh my God. Which makes sense, he had four daughters.

So like. Checks out. They were doing some freaky stuff over there. Oh my God. Oh, I love that you got to do that with him now. Yeah, no, it was nice. That's very cool. Yeah, it was good.

Wow. And then like a final message to everyone and then a message to my kids, which was really tough because that was one thing that was really young. Oh, wow. It's been fucking me up a little bit because even when I was away from him, I think that's just been the biggest thing is like, damn, like. Like he won't meet them.

Yeah, I'm going to have kids and they're not going to have a granddad and that's what. Yeah. But he'll be around. He'll be around. Keep asking for signs. Ask for the 444 because I'm a huge believer in that stuff. Those are all signs from him. Okay, good. Yeah, I think so. I 100% think so. If you could go back and relive any day, what would it be? And maybe not even just with your dad, but just in general. In general, there's so many days where, because I grew up in New Zealand, like we had our summers there,

so many days just like out, outside, because New Zealand and Australia, I think that's the best thing is like, everyone's just always outside and the sun is so hot, so everyone's at the beach or whatever else. But we had a holiday home in a place called Collingwood, which is in Golden Bay in New Zealand. It's beautiful, it's stunning,

but like all our friends would just get on our push bikes and we'd drive, like ride down to the bridge and we'd just be jumping off the bridge all day long. And then my parents would drive past and throw fish and chips in a bag off the thing onto us and we'd just sit there and just have like the best days. I think those days were special because you just there's no responsibilities, there's no care in the world. And it's like I guess me just being back in New Zealand it makes me realize oh fuck that

was such a beautiful gift. Yeah. This place is so amazing. Why did I leave? What am I doing? Because you're enjoying life. You're getting to experience a lot of stuff. You can always go back.

True. I'm dying to go. Your life's not over. Why did I leave? It's only one flight I guess. You'll be okay. What a bitch. Look at me trying to get more sympathy out of you.

I'm dying to go to New Zealand. I've never been. Don't die to go there. Do it alive. Yeah, but that just died this Maybe not a good choice of words No, it's beautiful. It's amazing. It's just really pretty there's not much to do Oh, okay, like the touristy parts, but it's just like I don't know It's like I went there for my sister's wedding and it was just gone through a breakup by the time

Fuck this would have been so good to have you here. Yeah. Because we're in a camper van, we're driving around. And like it's just beautiful. My sister had a wedding at the most beautiful place and it was so nice. Weddings are so hard single. They're the worst, especially after a breakup. I know. Yeah. And they were like, where is she?

What's going on? And I'm like, don't ask. I'm like, surprise. Yeah, I'm single. Yeah, she doesn't like me. Jig-tig-tog. Do you surf? Are you a surfer? No. How did you grow up there?

Isn't it a huge surf place? It's massive. What happened? Why didn't you learn how to surf? You're too tall. I grew the hair out. Way too tall, but I grew the hair out and I held the surfboard. Perfect.

And I'd just be by the waves. Great. And then I'd be like, how was today? Unreal. Like I ripped it up, bro. Did a backflip. Yeah. There had been none before in a longboard.

Oh my god. But yeah, I just uncoordinated, so I don't know. I did scuba diving. I was scuba diving. I can rip it up. Yeah Did a backflip? Yeah, they've been number four in a long boy. Oh my god But yeah, I just uncoordinated so I don't know I did scuba diving a scuba diving captain at my school. So that's That's very cool. Yeah, I mean we had surf team at my high school in Laguna Beach, California That's a thing you can do it No, I I was like all my boy. Oh my boy. Oh my guy friends today, you know All right, anyways. Okay, fuck.

Okay, I want you to play a game with me, okay? Okay. It's called Hot or Not, and so I'm going to read you scenarios, and you just tell me if you think it's hot or not, okay? Are you ready? Yeah. She's also been on multiple dating shows. No.

No. Wait, yes? I don't know, you tell me. I don't know. No. No. No, we, we're not. We you told me. I don't know. No. No. No, we, we're... We're moving on from that phase.

Yeah, yeah. We're husband material now. Exactly. Okay, she wants to introduce you to her mom after two dates. So hot. Hot? Yeah. Okay, great.

Let me see where you came from. Okay. No. No, I get what you're saying. I mean like... No, I get it. I get it. I love mini moms. Okay. I love big mom and dads.

The whole family. I love the whole family. I'll meet them all. Big family guy. Massive family. Okay great. She asks you your body count. No not hot. I had this conversation with Dr. Emily. Oh really? It's so gross. Why do people even do that? Well I I mean, I love it. I love the gossip. I know. Who are we? Like, give me espresso martini and I'm like. So, tell me everything. Did you hear about Natalie?

Yeah. It's so true. Yeah. Like I would never, my God, yeah I would. Yeah. Okay, she has a decent, well you already sort of answered this one earlier, but she has a decent social media following.

So when you guys are together, she's always getting content. She's always on her phone. She's always filming the things. No, I don't like that. Especially now, because I'm pulling myself away from that. I'm like, not hot. I can't stand that.

Okay, she wants to hard launch you after three dates. Hot. Okay, we mean business. Let all the guys know. Fucking go. Get out of the DMs. Rawr! That kitty's mine. I'm tired. Her way of flirting is calling you out on your shit and giving you a hard time. I don't like that. No. No I'm perfect. Clearly. We've established that today. She's definitely been drinking when you pick her up for a date. No. I'm not a big drinker. Oh you're not a big drinker? No. Oh wow, good for you.

Why are you so smart? I don't know. Well, you just said espresso martini. Well, I'm trying to relate to the ladies, okay? Oh my God. Do you even like espresso martini? No. Fuck that.

I'll say that song, Sabrina. Oh no, full circle, I get it. Just closing that joke off, yeah. Ew, Sabrina. No, I don't know. I'm just not a big. That's great. Do you drink? I can let loose from time Sabrina. No, I don't know. I'm just not a big. That's great. Do you drink?

I can let loose from time to time, but I don't drink often. Yeah, see I go on like sober spells. Me too. Yeah, I did like 13 months sober. Oh, I haven't gone that long. And like six months. Yeah.

Oh, these are great. I did two weeks. No, I've done months at a time. But now I'm like, I'll have a drink. Like I'll have it time to time. So if you're going out, do you go out? Not really. Not really.

Okay, wow. I'm surprised by that. Yeah, I guess everyone's like, oh, I must be a crazy party boy, whatever else. I just get over it. I'm like, meeting this conversation is like, oh my God. I agree. Yeah.

And then it's always a pissing contest. Especially in reality TV. Oh, I just did this show. Oh, this person is texting me. Like, oh, I had a meeting with Disney. It's like okay. I know. Eat my bum.

I know it gets so old. I don't care. Like I want you to do the best stuff ever and there's so much abundance for everyone. Like it doesn't matter. I know. But everyone's always just like oh did you see. I'm like dude I don't give a fuck.

That's the problem with LA. I know I agree. Let's go to Nashville. Although I don't know. Nashville's kind of becoming just as bad. Yeah. Okay, the last one. She makes you wait two months to sleep with her. You're celibate, so you'd probably like that. No, I'm sorry.

You're gonna make her to wait two months. Exactly, powers of Michael. Yeah, I'm the man, I'm taking charge. Yeah, here we go. Boom, watch this. I feel like being, yeah, don't, two months is crazy. Two months is a long time. But what if she's the one?

You'd know. Husband material. So you wouldn't wait two months? What if she's the one? She's not the one if she's gonna make you wait two months. Exactly. Oh. What about, no, okay, I'm not crazy.

Two months is a long time. Eight weeks? I couldn't do it. I couldn't either. I couldn't do it. I'm just couldn't either. I couldn't do it. I'm just, I look, I don't look, I love it's great. It's awesome.

I'm not celibate because I want to be. No. Fair. No. No. Breaking it tonight. Yeah, yeah. Right now.

Yeah. No, I just think that, like sex is so fun and so freeing, and I love it. I think it's great. And you learn so much about each other. Yeah. It's like, it's just such a great feeling and it's awesome.

Especially if you have a connection with someone. 100%. Like sure, I'd wait a couple of weeks. Yeah. Two months is like. What about a month? A month is reasonable. A month is fine.

Okay. If I have a side go. No, I'm joking. We're not exclusive. Yeah, we're not exclusive. No, I think a month is great. Yeah. Okay.

I think that's all good. Like, I just think that, but putting, month is great. Yeah. I think that's all good. I just think that, but putting, this is what I hate is when people put, it's not happening until X amount of dates or whatever else. Yeah. If it feels good in the moment, just go with it. 100%. Because who knows what's going to happen?

Yep. And that's how I feel. Sure, if we're doing day dates all the time, like going to the beach and whatever else, I don't care. It's not even a thought. Right. But if it's at nighttime and we come home and have a beautiful romantic dinner and everything was special and then it like happens and that's beautiful but then to be like no it's only been yeah it hasn't

been 13 dates right okay I'm confused no I get that I get everyone's unhappy everyone's unhappy like we've got needs. What about if she sleeps with you on the first date? Beautiful. That's fine. You're not like judging her. That's not a red flag. No, I don't give a fuck.

Like I think it's also, we're skipping a bunch of steps. Like now I know what your butthole tastes like. Now I know a lot about you and what you're doing. Yeah. Now I know. Here he goes downtown. No, I'm not a big ass eater. I was trying to do it for a little bit because I wanted to be like ass-hitting Batman.

With the Roses. No, I did. No, I swear to God. How was that? I was trying to figure out my branding at a point. No, this is- Research and development. True story.

I'm like, because there's all these people that you hear their crazy rumors about them. I'm like, I want to be one of those guys. Oh my God. So I'm like, what can I do that's like gonna shock the world oh my god there's been like a few one-night stands it only happened three times I just go home with them eat their bum and leave that's it stop because I thought it'd be hilarious like the third time I'm like this is actually really gross like I don't't enjoy eating as much. What did they say too?

They're like, you're leaving? What are you doing? What are you doing? I'm going back to the club. Oh my God. Yeah. Would you let a girl eat your pie? No, it's happened.

And it was just confusing. I would. Yeah. No, I'm a lady. Yeah. I'm not a wild animal. Fuck me again. Fuck me I guess. Yeah. Look, with no bum eating shame over here. There's no shame in the game. You should have hired a lady. Yeah. I'm not a wild animal. Fuck me again. Fuck me again. Fuck me again, I guess.

Yeah, look, with no bum eating shame over here. There's no shame in the game. It's different for a guy. Is it? It's different for a guy to do it to a girl because you guys are, yeah. Oh, right, okay. I'm like, do I take something?

I don't know, yeah. No, it's just confusing. I don't like it. I've had it happen a couple of times and like most of the time it's like the shock factor. I'm like, what are you? Whoa. Who's, what is down there? Is there ice cream on my bum? Like why are we licking away so hard?

Like I don't like this. Like it's crazy, but it's also like I'm confused. I'm like should I enjoy this? I don't know. What about a finger up? No, never. Yeah. Yeah. I'm also like I know what comes out of that thing Stay away. I know. It's a danger zone. I get it. I get it. I'm not I'm not What's coming out of your bum'm not nothing nothing at all actually Thank you so much for being here. I appreciate it. I think your dog is gone by the way. Yeah. Yeah, good luck getting her back No, it's awesome. Thank you so much. Oh my God, you're amazing. That was a crazy one. That was so awesome.

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