Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - Cavallari is a Freakin Trainwreck!

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

Join me for this fun solo episode to debunk headlines over the years. We discuss a "fling" with Scott Disick, who these "sources" are, when The Hills took it too far, the worst thing I had to live out in the tabloid world, getting proposed to over text, hookup rumors, and "friends" selling pictures of me. A word from my sponsors:Bon Charge - BON CHARGE is having their coveted end of year sale, where you can save the most dollars all year! Go to boncharge.com and use coupon code HONEST25 to save 25%Cotton - Discover the Fabric of Now at TheFabricOfOurLives.comAG1 - Every week of November, AG1 will be running a special Black Friday offer for a free gift with your first subscription, in addition to the Welcome Kit with Vitamin D3+K2. So make sure to check out DrinkAG1.com/HONEST to see what gift you can get this week!Gatorade - Put your water to work with Gatorade Hydration Booster. You can use code BOOST20 on Gatorade.com to try it yourself for 20% off. Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at Shopify.com/cavallari. Grow your business - no matter what stage you're in.Foria - Get 20% off your first order by visiting foriawellness.com/HONEST OR use code HONEST at checkout. For more Let's Be Honest, follow along at:@kristincavallari on Instagram@kristincavallari and @dearmedia on TikTokLet's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari on YouTubeProduced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Welcome in. Happy almost Thanksgiving. When you guys are listening to this, I will be frolicking around New York City, and I am very excited for that. Justin, Scoot, and I are going to New York for a few days during Thanksgiving because my ex has my kids. And so I do not want to stay home. I want to go be a bougie bitch and whoop it up in New York City. So that is what we're going to do. Also, if you're watching, I am still not in my podcast studio. I'm so mad about it. I got

everything. I put the wallpaper up and did all the things and I don't like it. So I'm going to get a different big chair that I'm going to sit in and I'm going to completely redo the background. It's all very neutral right now. And I realized on camera, neutral is not the best. It's like great for my actual home aesthetic, but not for camera. So bear with me, guys. The podcast studio is not going to be ready here for another probably a couple months, honestly. So we're just going to keep filming in my empty living room, but I am getting furniture in two days. So next time you do see this, I will actually have a living room furniture, which hallelujah, you know what I'm saying? We're slowly getting there. Okay. Anyways, guys, today is going to

be fun. If you are a very loyal listener, then you will know that in the past, when I've had bigger celebrities come on, I like to read them headlines and have them clear up what was really going on, what the real scoop was. Because I have always hated headlines. For 20 years, they have just annoyed the shit out of me, quite honestly, because they're all about clickbait. They're all about just grabbing people's attention. And they're as outrageous as humanly possible. So what I'm going to do today is go through headlines of me over the years, and we're going to clear the air. And we're going to spill some motherfucking to you because I'm in my villain era, motherfuckers. I do not care anymore. And you know what? Some people have really pissed me off over the years and I've kind of stayed quiet and I haven't really, well, you know,

the thing is I didn't have a platform to, to talk about this stuff. That's actually, this is why I love the podcast so much because it's the first time in my 20 year career that I can actually come on here and I can clear stuff up if I want to. And I don't comment on everything. And I know I could have used Instagram and social media and stuff, but I don't know. I just, this is obviously completely different. This sort of platform, being able to have a discussion about some stuff. So I'm really looking forward to today. And you know what you guys, we're just going to fucking start strong because that's just what we do here at Let's Be Honest. So let's go back. Probably, God, this must have been 2008-ish. Okay. Right around there. And by the way, my

producer sent me all of these headlines. Going back and looking at myself would not be cute. So thank you, Rosie, my producer. Shout out to you for doing the heavy lifting here, having to sit through all of that. Okay. So anyways, the first headline, guys, Kristen Cavallari denies fling with Kourtney Kardashian's man. Okay. So obviously it's talking about Scott Disick. And okay, I'll just read you. I only have like the first little blip. It says, while word spreads that Keeping Up with the Kardashians villain, Scott Disick had a fling with the Hill star, Kristen Cavallari, while he was on a break from long-term girlfriend, dot, dot, dot. Okay. So here's what happened, guys. I had known Scott,

I mean, honestly, probably since I was 18 or so, just being in LA, we ran in the same group of friends. A lot of my friends knew Scott. So I knew Scott. We used to party together. We used to hang out all the time. Nothing ever happened between us. And then he started dating Courtney. That was how I met Courtney was through Scott. Courtney and I became really good friends. And I really loved Courtney. We had so much fun together. I mean, I really, I liked her a lot. And Scott and Courtney broke up. Well, I'm still friends with Scott, right? Like I don't, I didn't know in those situations you had to choose a side, especially because I met Courtney through Scott. Okay. Well, so I go to Las Vegas. I think I was, I don't know if I was hosting an

event or going to an event. I can't, there was a specific reason why I was going to Las Vegas though. And my friend Stu, who was also really good friends with Scott. Scott came and my friend Ryan. Okay. It was me and three guys. That was like, I thrived in those situations. And we went out. We had a great time. Nothing happened. I was never alone with Scott. Not even for one fucking minute was I ever alone with Scott. Okay. Next morning, wake up. I think it was that said Scott and I hooked up in Vegas. And I'm like, what the fuck? Who would like, how do they even come up with this stuff? By the way, 20 years later, actually, Justin just texted me this morning with a different headline that he saw about me. And he was like, who says this stuff? Cause this headline was

actually spot on. And I was leaving like, Oh, clearly someone talked because like, who says this stuff? Because this headline was actually spot on. And I was even like, well, clearly someone talked because like, this is like, this is what I said. And I still to this day sometimes have no fucking idea where this stuff comes from, honest to God. And what I also know is typically when they write articles like this, they have to have two sources. It can't just be like one person calling in and being like, I saw Kristen Cavallari at Jason Aldean's on Broadway making out with Scott Disick. They would need to verify that from one other source, which I actually will say like, that's good because anyone could just call in and be like, make up whatever. So I, but I still, it's like, it's like,

I will never understand like who these sources are quite honestly. Sometimes I do. And other times I'm like, I don't understand. Anyways, I digress. Okay. So I'm like, what the fuck? I was so pissed obviously too. Anytime you're accused of hooking up with someone when you didn't, like that shit just irks me. Right. And I'm friends with Courtney and it's just like, so to me though, it was like so obvious that it would never happen that I also was like, that won't like, I'll talk to Courtney and it won't be an issue. But Stu was like, I know for a fact, Scott is the one who told. And I know for a fact too. And I'll tell you why, because, because there was zero truth to it. We weren't even being flirty or touchy.

Like there was nothing to it. I could see if we were out at a club and we were like flirting and like just being drunk and like having fun. That wasn't even the case. And I can't remember exactly, but like how it was worded, Stu and I both were like, oh my God, it's a hundred percent Scott that did this to get Courtney back to piss off Courtney. Cause I will say like these manipulative guys are smart like that, where for a lot of times when girls see that a guy's moved on, they're like, wait, wait, wait, I don't, I want him back. No, no, no, no. I want him. And so, and it worked. They got back together. And I remember talking to Courtney being like, Courtney, you know, nothing happened. And what she said to me was, well, I don't know. I have sisters and I would

just never put myself in that situation. I was like, okay. Okay. So she just sort of wanted a reason to, I think, not be friends with me anymore. And I remember at the time I was so pissed about this rumor because it wasn't fucking true. So I did an interview and I said, you know, the Kardashians have had every opportunity to just simply say it's not true, but they haven't. And I think at the time, Kim was getting a divorce from Chris Humphries and this was a great distraction. And you know, they always have a motive. And what do you know, you guys, 18, 17, 18, I don't remember when this was years later. Now here we are. Okay. So if you guys? 17, 18, I don't remember when this was. Years later now, here we are, okay? So if you guys listened to the podcast the last month or so, I've been

ripping on the fucking Carduchians, okay? Haven't held back. Well, what interesting timing that I get a DM on Instagram from Scott fucking Disick. And I'm going to read it to you guys because I don't give a flying fuck anymore. They fucked with me for these many years and you don't get to just do this. And if this is not the most manipulative text I've ever gotten, well, then I don't know what is. Guys, this is classic textbook manipulation control bullshit. Okay. This is what it says. Hey, three exclamation points. It's been such a long time. It's crazy. Kind of crazy that our lives are also ended up being kind of similar. I feel like it would be so good to see you and catch up and just talk about the stress

and all the different things you got to go through with kids and changing your life around over and over. Really miss you, though, and wish I would have reached out earlier. Just been so busy trying to be the best dad I can be. I don't have time for much, but trying to think about myself a little bit again or trying anyway. Hope to hear from you. Just text me so it's easier to chat. I said to Justin, how funny would it be if he left me Kris Jenner's phone number? I call. She's like, hey, I've been wanting to talk to you. This is like classic manipulation. I miss you. Oh, Scott, you miss me after 17 years? No, that timing is not lost on me. That as I'm ripping on the Kardashians,

calling them out for shit, now they want to send in Scott. This kind of goes back to the Britney Spears thing that I was talking about. You guys, this is Hollywood. This is Hollywood. When you're out there talking and they don't like that, this is what they do to try to silence you and control you. So, oh, Scott, you're just reminiscing on the party days from 17 years ago. You miss me. You want to chat. Shut the fuck up. This is so insane. It's like beyond me, you guys. So guess what? Fuck you, Scott. Fuck you, douchey ends. I don't fall for your bullshit. Okay. All right. Glad we cleared up that headline. Nothing ever fucking happened with him. That feels good. Okay. Let's talk about AG1. The holiday season is starting and it's easy to fall off my routine this time of year. That's why I've decided to add AG1 to my routine. And right now,

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people sort of live and died by them. And that was where you would get any sort of celebrity photos, info, the juice. And I remember I used to say to people, you know, these are weekly magazines that they have to fill every single week. If nothing's going on, they quite literally have to make shit up because they've got deadlines, they have a job to do, and they have advertisers spending money on them. And it's all about their sales, right? It's a game. And now it's the same thing. It's just online, and it's the clickbait. And that's why it's such a game because it's like the amount of money that they make is solely relied on how many clicks they have. Where at this time and like the early 2000s, it was about how many issues,

how many printed copies they were selling every week. And so the crazier the headline and the cover of the magazine you know, the cover of the magazine and everything, the more people are going to want to buy it. So anyways, that was challenging because the producers, one producer in particular of Laguna Beach and the Hills would fuel the tabloids with these fake storylines that we were doing on the hills. But that was, and it worked, you know, like, and listen, from a producer's perspective, I get it. Like I would probably do the same thing, quite honestly, but it's obviously harder when it was my life. And I was okay with it to a degree because I knew that what I was doing on the hills wasn't

real. I had a very separate life. And that was the only way I could sort of stay sane through it all was to, you know, hills is work. This is a job. And then, you know, my real friends who I was really dating was off camera. But the one time it really went too far was when this headline came out. Wasted. Kristen Cavallari hunted for cocaine at Super Bowl. February 17th, 2010. And then it says, but those close to the hard partying Cavallari, 23, says that such antics have become more and more typical. Her issues are becoming apparent to everyone. An insider reveals she's getting scary thin and not showering regularly. She's clearly unhealthy. I will never forget when this came out. And the fact that it said I wasn't showering, I mean,

that gave me and everyone in my life a really good laugh, like a really good laugh. I've hit rock bottom. I don't even shower anymore. Like, it's just so aggressive. Okay. So here's what happened. Was I in my party girl era? 1000%. I've never denied that I was a party girl. I never needed rehab. It was never out of control. I was never not showering either. And I was thin. Wasn't the thinnest I ever was. I can tell you that. I wasn't like scary thin by any means. And I wasn't thin because of cocaine. Let's just clarify that. I definitely did cocaine in my day, but it wasn't. I mean, I think I would say I had it under, under control. It wasn't like it took over my life. It was like, I did it recreationally. It was a party drug. It was, you know, I experimented. I had fun.

It never took over my life. I think that's the best way I could put that. So I went to the Super Bowl in Miami and I was going to Miami with my friends. And then MTV decided, oh, wait, we're going to come and we're going to film. And I was like, hang on a second. I'm flying myself here. I've already planned my trip. And now you guys want to fucking piggyback on this. I was pissed. I wanted to have a weekend of myself and go out and have fun and not worry about a camera in my face. And again, at a very separate life. So that was now what was supposed to be a fun weekend for me turned into work. Right. And I'm 23. Like I'm not happy about it, but okay. I realized I have a job and so, okay. But so I wasn't hunting for a quick, by the way, I wasn't fucking dumb. I wasn't like

at a party going up to anybody going, do you have any cocaine? Please can I have some cocaine? Like I knew where to get it. And I was like, hunt for it. Right. So, but the issue was, so there was, it was the night of the actual Superbowl. The whole cast and I are texting going, we don't want to film. Like we all want to go out and have fun. So we're all like, fuck it. We're not going. Collectively as a group, we all said we are not going to film. So I'm like, great. Woo. I go out all night. I'm having fun. La-di-da-di-da. Well, what happened was everyone slowly trickled back to the hotel and the producers ended up having them film a scene. The girls specifically, the guys always got away with fucking everything, by the way, it's always the girls. But, and I've talked about this before, so I'm sorry if you've heard it, but long story short,

the producer of the Hills, Adam DeVello, bribed the girls, Audrina and Lo, with a Birkin bag. A Birkin bag is a very expensive purse. At the time, they were like the it bag. It could be any, let's just say around $10,000. They span up and down depending on which type you're going to get. And Lo took the bait. Lo said, okay, I'll call Kristen out on camera for doing drugs for a Birkin bag, which she never got because you have to get that shit in writing. And so they did. And then the next morning, they woke me up in my hotel room with a camera in my face. And I was obviously exhausted. I was out partying the night before. But it was also like, it was just, it was so dirty to me. And you know, I understand reality TV is like that now, but this is in 2010. I mean, this is a long time ago. Shows weren't dirty like that. And I just sort of sat there. Oh, and low, fuck low, man. She's like,

it smells in here. Just really playing into it. And actually what happened after that was we all went into MTV with, you know, my manager, my publicist, our lawyers, MTV's lawyer was on the phone. And Audrina is the one who was like, no, Adam, you bribed us with a purse. Like it all came out quite honestly. I probably could have sued MTV, but I, to me, it wasn't even worth it. But because of that, what the producers created, I then had to live that out in the tabloid world. So I was on the cover of every fucking tabloid saying I needed to go to rehab. I had a cocaine problem and all this stuff. And at age 23, that was really hard. It was really hard, but you know, I was partying. I'm not, I'm not trying to, I'm not blaming this on everybody else. Like I definitely was doing things. I, I was partying. I'm not, I'm not trying to, I'm not blaming this on everybody

else. Like I definitely was doing things. I, I'm actually not going to say I was doing things I shouldn't have been doing because I don't regret doing any of that. I don't regret partying. I really don't. I think for a long time, that situation had a lot of control over me because I did blame Adam Develo for that. And it wasn't until a few years later that I was like, I have to get a new perspective on this for me. And so I asked myself what I could have done differently. And it was, I could have shown up to film when I was supposed to. It's really that simple. And I didn't. And that's on me. And honestly, flipping the narrative for me on that is what then made me able to move on from it and let it go. And I didn't. And that's on me. And honestly, flipping the narrative for me on that is what then made

me able to move on from it and let it go. And I didn't have that anger anymore. And so that's, I think in any situation, just taking a hard look in the mirror and really asking yourself what you could do differently or could have done differently is the only way to move on from some of these situations because anger and blame, they don't do anything for you. And there's no growth in that. And I did, I fucked up, you know, I did. And I'm someone who's very professional. I'm, I'm very responsible. And that was a huge fuck up for me. So anyways, but the not, I remember just being like the not showering thing. I was like, this really now is taking it too far. That's what irked me out of everything.

Okay. Let's see. Let's move on to, okay. Here's one that was really annoying too. Cavalieri. Bears quarterback proposed to me in a text message. God, this used to drive me fucking crazy. Okay. So what happened was Jay and I got engaged after eight months. It was very fast. He proposed to me in Cabo. It was very romantic and sweet. It was all the things, right? And then we split up a few months later and I called it off and so what happened was we were in LA and I gave him the ring back and he left and I think I gave him the ring back because I called it off I think like this is like such a interesting conversation with friends is in an engagement, if you do split up, like who gets to keep the ring? And I think if the guy breaks up with you, you keep the ring. He gave you that ring as a present, but I called it off. So I was like, well, I need to give it

back. I'll give it back then obviously, because like this is on me. So I gave him the ring back. Okay. So we split up. I went to Greece. I did dancing with the stars. Like I did like all the things that I wanted to do that I maybe necessarily couldn't do or someone didn't want me to do them. And I went to Greece and then I ended up missing Jay and I texted him. And then when I got home from Greece, I went to Chicago and I stayed with him for the weekend. We had a great weekend and we slowly started getting back together. And I had said to him at one point, because I was then in LA doing Dancing with the Stars. So it was, I couldn't see him all the time and he was playing football. And I just said to him at one point, just send me like, let's,

let's do this, right? Like, let's still be engaged and get married and everything. And I said, and I actually said, just send me the ring in the mail. This was, so this headline about him proposing to me in a text message, I actually don't know where that came from because I actually, what the headlines I remember were that he sent me the ring in the mail. Like that's how he proposed to me was like, sent me a ring in the mail. And I said like, just send it to me because I don't know when I'm going to see you next. And so, and I want to wear my ring. It was like really that simple. And the way that that took off, it drove me crazy because everyone was like,

oh, like he proposed to her in a text message, sent her a ring in the mail, like he could give two shits. But that was all from me. I was the one who was like, no, just send it to me because he had already proposed. Like we had already done all of the things. I broke up with him. Actually, that was the other thing. Everyone thought that he broke up with me. And that also pissed me off. I'm okay when things are true because I'm someone who I'm just authentic. Like if I did something or something happened to me and those are the headlines, I'm like, okay, well, fuck yeah, whatever. That's true. But when it's so not true, that's when I get so mad about stuff. So between everyone thinking that Jay broke up with me and then sending me my ring in the mail and proposing to me on a text message, I was like, oh my fucking God, this couldn't be farther from

the truth. So this whole era really pissed me off. And again, I just, this is also before I was on social media, I had no platform to say anything. And I wasn't going to talk about this in an interview. Like, I don't know. I just, that is the one good thing about social media and like this podcast, like I said at the beginning is you can kind of take your narrative back and you can kind of say what you want to say. That's been really nice for me. And then, okay, well, while we're on the subject of Jay, I'll talk about another one. So, so when Jay and I were together, I created an Instagram for him. He didn't, at the time he didn't want to be on it. And so I named it if Jay had Instagram and it was like, this is what he would be posting if he had Instagram, you know, just, I thought it was funny. And

right before we split up, yeah, right before we split up, he took back his Instagram. And at the time, so it was kind of a storyline on Very Cavallari. We talked about it. So everyone knew that I was running the Instagram, but then he took it over right before we split up. And Jay and I for, God, I don't even know, a year and a half or so when we first split up, we're like really trying to figure out like, can we be friends? Can we co-parent to get like, it was, it was a tough thing to navigate as anyone who's gone through a divorce can probably relate to if you have kids. But so on Mother's Day, so we split up in, well, I would say March. We announced it in April. I've told you guys this story. We went to spring on spring break for our kids thinking it would be like

the last hurrah. And as soon as we got home, you know, we would figure out the living situation and everything. And then that's when COVID hit and we ended up getting stuck in the Bahamas for a month. Never slept together in the same bed, like nothing, like the whole time we were done, but came home. And then, so we got home in April and then that's, I think we announced it like middle of or end of April, but obviously like we had been done for longer than that. But anyways, my point is, so on Mother's Day, so that's May. So like a few weeks after we had announced our divorce, he posted a happy Mother's Day thing for me on his Instagram. And everyone thought I made that post to myself. So this headline says Insta failure. Wait, did Kristen Cavallari secretly wish herself

a happy Mother's Day on Jay Cutler's Instagram account? It's like, no, you fucking dipshits. I didn't wish myself a happy Mother's Day. Oh, my God. In fact, when we were together, I never posted myself on his Instagram ever. And he was like, you should post this picture of you. And I was like, no, I would never do that. And then I get shit on for it. I have always felt like the press, the media loves to just like paint me in this light. I guess, you know what the difference is? I don't really care anymore, but I did care for it. I just felt like I could never win when it came to the media. And so anyways, that just like the shit's annoying. You know what I mean? Always stuff that's so wrong. Since you hit play on this podcast, thousands of photos have been posted on social media,

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so it's no wonder why anyone would speculate. When asked about it, the reality vet says, she expects people to think they're dating. I kind of expect the dating rumors, to be honest, but that's what happens when you put two people together. Well, yeah, no shit. There's always rumors about everyone hooking up on Dancing with the Stars. Mark and I never hooked up. It's just like the fact that I even feel like I need to defend myself. I'm like, wait, it's not true. It wasn't true though. And in fact, I'm trying to think, I think Jay and I were like basically together the whole time. We were like trying to like work it out and figure it out. Jay was in the audience for, I think it was my third episode or something on Dancing with the Stars. And so no, Mark and I

never hooked up. I adore Mark Ballas. And I will say like the Dancing with the Stars crew, you know, you do become a family or a very tight knit group because you do spend so many hours together and we would go out too. And no, I never, I don't even remember anyone from my season hooking up to, I don't think, I don't remember anyone hooking up. So that was not true, but that's funny. Cause I didn't even remember. I don't even remember that one. Okay. Here's another one. That's really annoying. This one's more recent. And you know, listen, I am not going to do the most recent ones just because I've told you guys, I just, if I want something to like go away, if I don't want someone's name associated with mine anymore, I try to just like, you know what I mean? But okay. So this one is Kristen

Cavallari reveals why she threw out a necklace. Her best friend gifted her daughter a little crazy. Okay. So there was a TikTok trend about like, tell me a time you did something really crazy. Like I can't, oh no, wait, maybe we sort of tried to make this a trend at Uncommon James. Maybe it didn't actually become a trend. We were just trying. This is what it was. Okay. When our fragrance hard feelings came out, this is what it was. The, my marketing team wanted to do like a kind of like kitschy fun trend. And it was like, tell me a time, you know, you did something that made you have hard feelings or something. And I couldn't fucking think of anything. But someone did gift my daughter a Kendra Scott necklace too, actually. It was not my best friend or an ex-best friend. It was someone closer to me than

that as a big old fuck you to me. And so I said that. I said something, you know, when someone gifted a competitor's necklace to my daughter, which that part was true, I would never throw out my daughter's necklace ever. I'm not that fucking crazy. But I said that this is my own fault. I said it in the TikTok because I was like, we're like, I'm like talking to the marketing team. I'm like, and then I did what? Because it was like, say the hard feeling that you had and then what you did. I'm like, I didn't I literally did nothing about it. In fact, I was like, oh, my God, it's so cute. I love it. Like, okay. But for the plot, you know, I had to say something. I said, I threw it out. I fucking knew, I knew I shouldn't have said that. That's on me. It's like, after all these years, I just got to just listen to my gut feeling on this stuff. But I fucking said,

I threw it away and people lost their minds. And to be fair, I guess, rightfully so, but it wasn't true. It's like, I think for me, TikTok is fun. It's not that serious. And the people who take everything so literal, I'm like, you need to fucking calm down. Like anytime I do a voiceover, everyone's like, oh, she's talking about so-and-so. It's like, no, I'm actually not talking about anybody. I'm just doing a trend and I'm doing a voiceover. Like it's not that deep, but people take everything so seriously. But it's funny that everyone said that it was my best friend. I'm like, what? People just make shit up. They just make shit up. So my best friend didn't give gift Sailor a competitor's necklace. I didn't actually throw it away. Sailor has a few pieces of jewelry from a competitor and I don't

say shit. I tell her how cute they are. You know what? The other thing is too, you know, sarcasm and joking around, having fun in an interview does not translate in text, you know? And so like if let's say I went on a podcast or we can use my podcast as an example, even my podcast, hearing the way I say something and putting inflection on different things, hearing my tone, joking around is one thing. But then when you were like when these, you know, weeklies take it and transcribe it and it's now just in text, it reads very different a lot of times. And so I actually have this theory that, you know, because a lot of celebrities, when you meet them, it's almost like,

it almost makes you feel crazy in a lot of ways because a lot of celebrities are, it's almost like delayed almost when you're having a conversation with them. It's like, they're so uptight, guarded, careful about what they're going to say, like delayed in what they say, really thinking carefully about how they're going to deliver what they're going to say. It's like, it's a very interesting thing. And like, I remember being, you know, 18 and being thrown in the celebrity world and experiencing that and being like, this is so weird. Like, I don't like having these conversations with people because I'm very like, hey, how are you in your face? I say dumb shit all the time. I'm like, I don't think about stuff, but I can see why they are

like that because it's happened to me a thousand times where your words get taken out of context. Sarcasm doesn't translate. Like it just, if you're like a lighthearted, bubbly, you know, like joking kind of person, like that, it just, it's horrible in text. And so I totally can empathize with people wanting to really make sure how they deliver something is going to come across accurately in text. But just on like a human level, it's a weird, it's a weird thing. And I've always said, I hope I never get like that where you're just, it's almost robotic in a lot of ways. And that's probably why I get so many dumb fucking headlines written about me because I don't, I don't want to say I don't care. I just, I'm more concerned about being a normal human being than being a robot, quite honestly. But that's why the headlines that I do see about

me, I'm like, if I only saw headlines and didn't know the context or anything, I would hate me. I totally get why some people on the internet fucking hate me. Like I'm annoying as shit too. I think I'm annoying in the headline world of it all. So I get it. Okay. Anyways, back to stay in the course. Okay. Kristen Cavallari's worst advice from producers was make out with the gay bartender on the Hills. I don't remember saying it was the worst advice. I think I was just like, the fuck? So we did a Costa Rica trip. Maybe it was the end of my first season of the Hills. Yeah. Because it must have been because the producers, there was a really cute bartender. I actually didn't know

he was gay. And the producers kept saying, well, this is the shit they would do all the time. Kristen, you should make out with the bartender. We're trying to get picked up for a second season and I'm a team player. So I'm like, yeah, you're right. We need another season. Absolutely. So I did. I kissed him. And then afterwards found out he was gay. I was like, sweet. Oh, yay. Woo. That's fun. But I don't, that wasn't something I was like, butthurt about. I didn't think that was like the worst advice. I was like, I truly, when I joined the Hills, I was like, I'm a team player. I'm down. What do you guys want me to do? Like loop me in on the conversations rather than trying to just manipulate me because you guys are going to get what you want

anyways. I would rather just make it fun for me and be on the same page. So it just made it a lot more fun. Okay. And then let's end with this little nugget. So my first boyfriend in LA when I was 18 was Brody Jenner. And then Brody and I broke up and I dated Nick Lachey. And this was a wild time in my life because I was overnight on the cover of, of every tabloid. I had so many paparazzi following my every move, waiting outside of my house. It like, and that was the first time I had experienced that being 18, maybe I was 19, but whatever it was 18, 19. And it was, Whoa, it was wild. It was, it was a lot. And he had just, you know, gotten a divorce from Jessica Simpson. So this was like the biggest thing in 2000 and must've been like 2006. And it was a wild ride. And I remember

the tabloids would like compare me to Jessica Simpson and say, I was stealing her red carpet poses. I'm like stealing her red carpet poses. There's like four fucking poses you can do on a red carpet. Like what are my hand on my hip? You think I'm stealing her poses carpet poses. There's like four fucking poses you can do on a red carpet. Like what are my hand on my hip? You think I'm stealing her poses? Like what? And this was when I, I really started to kind of like lose trust in some people. And there was a picture here. I can, I'll show it to you guys for the people watching. By the way, you can watch all of these episodes on YouTube. You guys, I get asked that a lot on Instagram where you can watch it. There's always a video. It is always on YouTube. So I was out one night with my friend Kendall and Nick was there and we were all sitting together. We were at a club and we were all sitting together. But Kendall acted like she was taking a photo of just me and her, right?

And Nick is in it next to me, but he's not looking at the camera because everyone thought it was a picture of me and Kendall. But Nick is actually in it a little bit. And if I can find this fucking photo on my phone, I'm going to show it to you guys. Okay. Here it is. So my friend, Kendall sold this picture for $2,500 and it's not even a good picture. So it was a picture of Kendall and I cut Kendall out of the photo. So it looks like it's just a picture of Nick and I, but you can tell like, it's, it's an awful photo. In fact, it doesn't even look like we're really together. It looks like they took two pictures of us and put them next to each other. Cause I'm like leaning away from him. Cause I'm like taking a photo, drinking a cranberry vodka, like girl, that just shows you how young I was. You're going to feel like shit tomorrow

drinking all that sugar. Ew, cranberry vodka. And Nick is like sitting here, not even like looking or paying attention because no one thought we were taking a picture together. But that was so fucked up. And she blamed it on her brother. She's like, my brother stole it off of my computer. Bullshit. But you know, the tabloid world, this is what they do. They pay people. So it gives them an incentive to do this. It's a gross world. Raider Online paid my stepbrother years ago to talk. I mean, it's just, it's gross. It's gross. And that was kind of like the first real sense of betrayal that I felt of like, oh, wow, I'm not even safe with my people I think are my friends. That is also LA to a degree, I would say. It's hard to meet really good, genuine people. But that was like my introduction to just shadiness.

And but OK, I don't care. I'm over it now. But this is funny because in this, it basically is saying like Nick's week of women, like Nick's a bachelor now. And there's like, you know, so much going on with Nick and blah, blah, blah. But like we had been seen together a bunch. And then it says Kristen's week of men. And it's a picture of my friend, Pascal,

who I was at the Laker game with, but with a group of people. Thank you very much. And then this is so dumb. On March 22nd, Cavalieri primped outside LA club LAX and was later spotted with a mystery guy. Oh, a mystery guy. Okay. Got it. And then it says ex Jenner with Cavalieri in January slept over at her house as recently as March 20th says a source. source. Shut up. Like people just literally make stuff up. My week of men. This is what I'm saying. A mystery guy. You guys are pulling shit out of

your ass. Also, there's no fact checking here. I remember seeing articles of, I'll just, I'll say who it was. I remember, so Lindsay Lohan and I, when I was like 18, 19, used to be at the same management company. And I remember seeing a photo of her with the main manager at this company saying Lindsay's new man, blah, blah, blah. He was her gay manager. So, which is interesting because you would think Hollywood, like these people would do their fact checking, but they wouldn't. It's, I want to say they've gotten better about all this stuff. Cause again, I mean, this was like, you know, 19 ish years ago, but that's just, that's the game they used to play. And so that, yeah, that was a wild time, a time to be alive, you guys. So that's just some of the tea over the years. And maybe in a year or so I'll do headlines from what's going on currently right now. It's just too soon. It's too soon. But I hope everybody

has a great Thanksgiving. I hope you are with loved ones. I'm thankful for a lot this year. I mean, every year I am, but you know, health is always at the forefront for me, especially having three kids. Like everyone's healthy. And I just think without health, nothing else matters. You have nothing. And I'm just, you know, I'm really thankful for that this year. So I hope everyone stays safe and is also healthy and is with the ones that you love. And I will see you guys soon in December. What the fuck? How is it already December? Okay, guys, I'll talk to guys soon in December. What the fuck? How is it already December? Okay, guys, I'll talk to you soon. Bye.