Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - Farmer Wants a Wet Willy With Matt and John

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

Two of the guys from Fox's Farmer Wants a Wife sit down with me in my new podcast studio to spill on everything about the hit show. We discuss how they had a say in what girls came to their farm, how real the show is, how much time they really spent with the girls, their dating icks, the thing that made John rip his mic off, if the girls were genuine, their least favorite thing to film, and how John has found himself in the middle of some Tucker Wetmore drama.A word from my sponsors:Hiya Health - Go to hiyahealth.com/HONEST to receive 50% off their best selling children's vitamin. SKIMS - check out the SKIMS Ultimate Bra Collection and more at www.skims.com/honestWayfair - Shop the huge selection of outdoor furniture online. This summer, get outside with Wayfair. Head to Wayfair.com right now. Wayfair. Every style. Every home.Shopify - Go to shopify.com/cavallari to upgrade your selling todayEveryday Dose - Get 45% off your first subscription order of 30-servings of Coffee+ or Bold+. You'll also receive a starter kit with over $100 in free gifts including rechargeable frother and gunmetal serving spoon by going to everydaydose.com/HONEST or entering HONEST at checkout.Timeline - Timeline is offering 10% off your order of Mitopure. Go to timeline.com/HONESTFor more Let's Be Honest, follow along at:@kristincavallari on Instagram@kristincavallari and @dearmedia on TikTokLet's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari on YouTubeProduced by Dear Media.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This is Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality TV, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Welcome in to Let's Be Honest. I am so excited today because two things. We are finally in my podcast studio, which this has been a very long time coming. So very happy about that.

And I have two special guests with me from Farmer Wants A Wife. I have Matt and John. Hi guys. Hello. Thanks for having us. How are you guys doing? Outstanding. We're happy to be here.

Life is crazy, huh? So we just saw each other at Stagecoach. I feel like you guys have been all over the place since you got on TV, right? Yeah, we've been busy. Traveling circus. Traveling the country. Seems like you guys are just having a lot of fun though too.

Yeah, we have a lot of fun. So what's been the coolest thing that you guys have gotten to do or the best person that you guys have gotten to meet? What's been the highlight? I think the iHeartRadio Awards was pretty fun. Yeah. So what's been the coolest thing that you guys have gotten to do or the best person that you guys have gotten to meet? What's been the highlight? I think the iHeartRadio Awards was pretty fun. Yeah. We like walked the carpet and it was like all the celebs and like. Was that your first big red carpet?

Yeah, we don't do that stuff normally. So it was it intimidating? I think after the filming of the show, like nothing really faces me anymore. I like that. At first, like the show, I was all nervous and stuff, you know? Were you? After that, it just kind of like scared it. You know, scared me. Scared me anymore. I like that. At first like the show I was all nervous and stuff you know. Were you? After that it just kind of like scared it. It scared me. Scared me straight. How did the show come about? Did they come to you guys? They just found you guys. I got an Instagram DM both of us did you know. Yep. And they just said hey we're doing another season of Farmer Wants a Wife. Would you guys want to do it? I guess we had enough outdoors photos on our Instagrams to like, you know.

Somehow we snuck in there. Somehow get casted for Farmer Wants A Wife. What'd you guys, were you so excited? No. No? I had only sisters were. Yeah. And my mom.

Yeah. Cause they love the show. Yeah, okay, so they watched it before. Yeah, when season two was coming out, like I'd be coming in to the kitchen to get a snack or something. Like, John, you gotta come in here and watch this show. That's funny.

You'd be perfect for it. Look at that. They manifested it for you. Yeah. They may have even submitted an application. I wouldn't know. Oh, that's funny. Maybe.

Wait, so talk, okay. Talk to me about the first day filming. What did you guys do the first day of filming? Cause that is nerve wracking. I remember my first day filming too. It, it, you do get nervous. First day was like the mixer event. So like we met each other and the other two guys and like all their girls.

So everyone's all in like one place in Alabama. Yeah. And your first time. Well, I guess we met each other on camera. But like pretty much the first thing is you walk into this like massive room with like the entire cast. And wow. Probably like 60 crew members. And yeah.

Well, I mean, we like, I don't know, it was, it was extremely nerve wracking cause like we walked into this big room and all the girls are set up, you know, you saw them on the first episode where they're around the barrels. We walked in for the first time on camera and everything. And I think Matt was the first one to go in. You had to go first. Like everyone's girls are all in there and there's like, you know, they swap it, but like there's's like 15 or 20 cameras, like in the back.

And the rest of us are waiting outside behind this like curtain. And we just hear all this cheering and stuff. I'm laughing. Get myself into. They weren't they doing like, they did like a cheer. Uh, I think my girls like chanted something about with my name. I don't know. Yeah.

Blacked out. Oh, I vaguely remember something like that too. I don't know. I don't really remember most of it. I think I blacked out. Was it that traumatizing? No, it was pretty, not really. But you were definitely just on display

for everybody to look at, so. You know what I like about your show is that you guys got to have a say in what girls came to the farm. I don't think any other dating show does that. Yeah, a big say too. Like even probably more than people realize, like they like grilled us for like like what exactly do you want?

The girl what you guys say. What did you what were you looking for in a girl? We didn't really want to like I at least for me I didn't want to tell them exactly what I wanted I was like, why don't you guys just give me a few options and I'll yeah Cuz you don't know you don't want to say like blonde hair and then maybe you missed out on brunette. They're asking us like body type, hair length, like hair age, everything. Whoa, well, so what did you guys say? I wanna know specifics.

How tall are you? Yeah, short. I didn't want anybody that was, I wanted like for me age wise, I wanted like my age or younger. And then they also asked a lot about like kids and stuff. I was like, not really. Yeah. Like if someone has kids.

Yeah. That's so fascinating to me. Yeah. It was pretty in depth. That's great though. You feel uncomfortable saying stuff because then they even bring up race and everything and you're like, yeah. But you also like, yeah, you gotta be like, yeah, you got to be honest.

No, you have to be. You're trying to find love. This is your future wife we're talking about. Right. Build a wife. Yeah, build a wife. I like that. I want to do a dating show. What about personality traits? What are you guys looking for when it comes to personality? Not insecure. Can't stand that stuff.

Yeah, that's a tough one. There's a lot of those out there. Yeah. It's hard to get past that because it creates a lot of problems. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. So that was the biggest thing that you guys said to the producers. You just want someone who's confident.

Yeah. Confident. I said that. I said fun because I like to have a good time. Yeah. Sweet. I know. I could tell at stagecoach.

Motherly. Yeah. Motherly. That means, but. No, I was the problem at stagecoach actually. Not you. We weren't even allowed where you were. I don't know, by day three. You know, I gave you a wristband. I got you in.

I know, I owe you for that big time. We may have been out of snuck into the VIP. I gave you a better wristband than I had. You could get into like the backpack, the artist area. You're welcome for that. And I did too. I tried to get into the Backstreet Boys trailer, but I was locked.

You would have fit right in. Did you guys see Backstreet Boys? No. No. I don't think, I didn't see a single person perform over there. Come on. You were just at the bar the whole time? Yeah. Pretty much. Really?

Or trying to sneak back where you guys were. Socializing. I saw you guys back where I was multiple times. You guys made it back. Yeah. Multiple times. Yeah. Good job. We're good at getting around. I also saw you guys-

I made it here. Yeah, you did. I'm impressed. I also saw you guys in a million different TikToks with people. You guys are becoming TikTok stars now too. That's more so John. You're good at it. You're the TikToker. You're good at it.

I've spent too much darn time on it anyways. So like you pick up ideas while you're scrolling and. It's funny. It's really funny. Things of fruition. Okay, wait, let's go back to the show really quickly. How real would you guys say it is? Did you walk away from the experience being like that was 100% real or did it feel kind of produced?

And I know that like obviously you're not planning dates, right? Like the producers are probably or are you playing there were my ideas and then they would Execute it. Okay. I love that. They did leave out some of the favorite ones that I wanted to do Like what what was one that they left out? I had this whole like helicopter wine tasting date set up. Cool. Which would have been awesome. They were gonna pick us up like on the ranch. Wow. Fly us to this winery. It was all ready to go and then they like scrap that. Why? I don't know just corporate bullshit stuff but the other one was riding horses on the beach. Cool. Because we were like five minutes from there. I love those. Why would they do that? Scrap that. Yeah what the heck. All my fun ideas. It's too bachelor-esque.

Yeah maybe. It would have been cool. It would what the heck? All my fun ideas. It's too bachelor-esque. Yeah, maybe. It would've been cool. It would've been. People would've liked it. I would've liked it. I would've liked it. I would've liked it. Sounds fun.

My date ideas were terrible. I mean- What were they? We didn't have anything going on because like on the farm, it was like October, so everything was already done. Oh, okay. So we couldn't do anything. Yeah. So I was like, I don't know, we can golf.

It's a farmer's show. Lame, couldn't do anything. Yeah. I was like, I don't know. We can golf. The farmer's show. Lame. We did. That's lame. How long did you guys film the show for? It was five months. Oh, a month. Same. Yeah, it's the same thing. I don't know. Something like that. October. October. OK, the month of October. So how much time did you guys actually spend around the girls?

None. Like off camera. So everything? Almost none. Speak for yourself. Okay, well his form is more fun. Hold your microphone up. He's getting nervous over here. All right, buddy.

Guys, listen, all right? It's a little rinky-dink subtle we got in here. First time's a charm. Hold on. So how many days a week would you see them? Did you guys film every day? I would see them every day because they move into my house. Right. I stayed at my brother's like down the street.

So you have to pass. I'd like say hi and stuff, but like they don't let you hang out at all. Like really? Yeah. There was like a couple of times. Yeah. His. You got to. How come you got to? Well, it's a whole different production team per farmer. And the Wranglers, who were the ones who would like

be with the girls to make sure they don't sneak out and stuff. Mine were very nice and open. And let me bring them, what is that? What's that wine circle? Kim Crawford. Oh, I don't know that. They love that stuff. Would have had me bring it to them all the time.

It would have taken anything. So you were just going over there and boozing with them all the time? Oh yeah, just boozing and watching movies. No way. And hanging out. Yeah, they bring it in my hair one night. I was on lockdown at my place.

Whoa! So you really felt like you knew the girls? Yeah, definitely. Oh wow. And you felt like you didn't know them at all? No, I mean like after the month you're like around them enough. Like we're on the same flights. We'd be at these same things like in passing and all that kind of stuff.

But we didn't get to like have fun and hang out. Whoa, that's crazy to me. What about the other guys? Have you shared your stories with them too? I think they're one of them, I think was more similar to me than the other one was a little more loose too. But I don't think Colton really cared to hang out with him much. I think he was kind of doing his own thing a lot.

I don't know. But Jay, I think had it pretty strict. Yeah. Yeah. I think you should be able to hang out because then you do feel like you know them a lot better. I felt like when you watch the show or any of those shows, I'm like, oh, we're gonna be hanging out with all these girls all the time. It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be great.

It was nice. It was just a lot of hard work filming all day. Yeah, but they didn't want you to talk about stuff that could just be seen as you developing a relationship off camera. I mean, I get it, yeah. They don't wanna miss something on camera. I think it would be better

if you got more comfortable with each other. Cause then it was like awkward on these dates cause you're like not that close, you know? Then you're in a hot tub together and you're like looking at each other like. With cameras in your face too. But if we would have got to like hang out before. They want you to be that way.

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Lock it down, baby That's just how you guys are or do you feel like the cameras made you kind of know that I for sure was not myself During the whole thing why not? I think kind of like what we were saying like his atmosphere was fun and like easygoing and I think they were like having a Good time mine was like so serious. They'd be like, all right, get out there and like yeah then I would be like trying to say the right thing and I just came were like having a good time. Mine was like so serious they'd be like all right get out there and like yeah then I would be like trying to say the right thing and I just came across like really reserved and like kind of awkward I think which I probably am a little bit but not nearly like as bad as the show. I would say yeah because watching the show which by the

way I'm obsessed with the show I told you guys that I am so locked in and I'm on the edge of my seat to see who you guys pick and at stagecoach I was like tell me who you pick and you guys pick. And at stagecoach I was like, tell me who you pick. And you guys wouldn't tell me. But what was I gonna say? Oh, but I was gonna say that you were very different in person than I thought you were gonna be. You were way more relaxed and fun and chill.

I was like, weee. That's cause you was a couple tequilas deep too. I usually don't. I was on the show too. Oh, so is there a drink limit on the show? Oh yeah, it's super strict. It is, huh? Is it a two drink maximum?

Two drink like at events and stuff, but. Oh, but filming the show. We have a bar at my brother's house, so. So you can kind of do whatever. Like when I go get something real quick. Could the girls sneak alcohol? They weren't supposed to, but like moving back into my house, like I'm like pulling all these

like cabinets open, there's like empty wine bottles. Seriously? All this stuff, yeah. Oh, that's funny. And you're bringing the girls booze. Yeah, I was doing it all the time. But when we'd go to a mixers and stuff, the bartenders, I mean, there was 9 million of us, so they couldn't keep track.

They like had a little sheet and they'd tally next to each one of us every time we'd come up and get a drink. Oh, that's funny. And they'd be like, you already have two. I'm like, no, I don't. You mustn't mark somebody else. I wasn't trying to like party or like, you know,

drink a bunch, but I was like, can I have a couple of drinks? Feel like before this big thing, you know? Yeah, it helps on camera. I had it most earlier. I think there was never a drink limit on dating shows and then someone on The Bachelor messed it up for everybody.

I think someone got hammered or something. It's probably gotten too out of control. Yeah, yeah, people get a little lit. I heard they were like feeding them alcohol on The Bachelor. I've heard that too. To get them loose. I've heard that too. Well, them loose. I've heard that too. Well, even like I did Laguna Beach

when I was a junior in high school and we were getting hammered on camera. So I think people were just like, well that was like back in the wild west. That was literally was the wild west. Our red solo cups. So many rules back then. Okay, wait, so this kind of makes sense

because the girl that your mom picked, what was her name again? Juliana. Juliana, it's hard to keep all the girls' names straight. I don't want to offend anybody, but there's a lot of girls on this show and it's hard to keep everyone's names straight. But so it seemed like you were really into her at first, right?

Like you were almost like head over heels. And then it seemed like once she got to the house, you like turned on her and she didn't even exist to you. And she's obviously pissed camp. So I just saw the camping episode. When this airs, we will have senior guys' last solo date. So I wanna talk about that too, but I wanna talk, what happened?

Like what happened with her that all of a sudden you were like over this girl? Yeah, tell us, let's be honest. Yeah, let's be honest. Well, when I was talking to her at the restaurant, it was like a lot of really cool stuff. She studied in Italy, wants to be a mom, like basically set out this like dream scenario

with a husband and wife and their mom, like basically set out this like dream scenario with a husband and wife and their kids. Like making amazing food, you know, having been taught in Italy. And then she got to the house. The girls were not nice to her. It was before the house. It was in that same date. Well, it was just like, she's great. Julianna's phenomenal. Very good person. But like in the parking lot, she did one of those things where she like does this to like make me look at it.

You know, you ever seen that? Yeah. Like when, if you look, they're punching the shoulder. I was just like. She did that to you? Yeah, I was like. So they just ruined it?

Yeah. Couldn't you be like, nevermind, I don't want you. I didn't like ruin it, but I was just like, I'm not a fan. So that honestly, the first girl that went home, Chloe, you also phenomenal. Absolute out. But like they don't really know me well enough.

So like she had willied me one time. Oh, yeah. He talks about this all the time. Really bothered. No, that does it. I like that type of stuff is just like not for me. OK, so those are for some for you. It's for some people but not for me. Like the like bro kind of joking around.

Let's just joke around and like jump to that point right away. Give him a wet willy. Noted, God. Well, wet willy's a lot. Wet willy is pretty aggressive, not gonna lie. That's pretty. I told him to send me the clip because it was hilarious when it happened.

I was just like. Oh my, I mean, I can see after you're dating for like a year and you want to pull some shit on someone I mean at that point I wouldn't care. Yeah He played still good Particular guy Just try it on math. Yes. Yeah do it. What are other X that you guys have we're deal breakers Hmm, which time do you we got all the time in the world. That stuff.

That stuff, that's it. Those are, that's it. I think what else? That'll give me the ick. Yeah. I know it's hard to come. That's all you have? Insecure, I mean, but insecure doesn't give me the ick.

It's more just like. As a deal breaker. Yeah, it's a deal breaker. Yeah, yep. I think like whenever girls can't get along with each other, it's like four people and it's like, grow up. Well, that happened on the show. What did you guys think about all the girls fighting all the time?

And that for me, I was like keeping an eye on that because I'm like, if you can't like contain yourself in this situation, then like obviously, you know, problems. Yeah, that's all we're really looking for. I hate that kind of stuff. I'm pretty. Yeah, there was so much of it of it there was well, they're all living together in this Well, he had it worse than I did mine were friends. Oh, yeah, actually yours all did seem pretty friendly I don't want to when Juliana came in. Yeah, but they were still like very cordial. That's they twisted that

I don't want to speak a lot worse than it did. Oh. They were nice, unfortunately. OK, OK. But they were upset. That was no lie. Well, I'm sure. Yeah. I can understand that. I mean, like, I only had three girls at that time.

Everyone else had four. So did you bring her back because you didn't think that one of them was the one? No, I just brought her back because I was like, you know, the way I explained it to the girls made sense in my head at the time. You know, I was like, it's only fair to you guys and stuff. But it was really- Oh yeah, that did actually make sense.

I was like, oh. Yeah. I respect that. I was like, my mom went through all the trouble. I was like, you know, I only have three girls. Yeah, it's like kind of build it up into this whole thing. Like my girl's from Nashville, actually.

She flew all the way out. It's two flights. She had to stay in a hotel. I know. She was probably really nervous. I know. She flew all the way out. It's two flights. She had to stay in a hotel. She was probably really nervous. She's all dolled up, like, you know, ready to go. And then I'm just like, I felt horrible. What did you say to her? Cause they didn't air any of that.

Yeah, I was surprised it didn't show that, but we're like chit chatting and they like come out and they're like, oh, we need to fix your mic, you know? It's just like bullshit. But then they pull me in the back and they're like, what do you think? You're gonna keep her in a mic? She's just like, oh, we need to fix your mic, you know, which is like bullshit. But they pulled me in the back and they're like, what do you think you need to keep her? And I'm like, she's just like,

just not for me. She's great. But they're like, all right, we'll go back out there and tell her. And I'm like, you're to tell her? I know that's so hard. Yeah, it was horrible. And all my best friends knew we were filming.

So they went and sat at the table, like five feet away from us. I knew they were listening the whole time. So that just like messed with me. They were like arms distance and I could see them all like just smiling. And I would like tell this poor girl who was like shaking like, you know, I was nervous.

I would be too. And I'm like, I'm really sorry, but like I have too much like going on. Nice Matt. It's horrible. Yeah, that's hard. Scumbag. What did you guys think when girls,

what are you saying over there? I called them a scumbag. Yeah, a real scumbag. Nice. I had to follow my heart, Jon. Poor girl went all the way out to California. He was following his heart. She was great though.

Because he knew that the one was already at his house. Potentially. What did you guys think when girls would leave the show? There was a lot, like a lot of girls quit the show. When they would leave on their own? Yes. I wouldn't say a lot. There was a few. Surprised me. I didn't think there was usually like that. Like sometimes I think they knew and they would leave like on their own. Yes. I wouldn't say a lot. There was a few.

Surprised me, I didn't think there was usually like that. Like sometimes I think they knew and they would try to like beat you to it. That's what I thought. That's always what it was. That was what I thought the whole time. It pissed me off.

Like Rachel in my place, she was never, that was never gonna be a thing. She already knew. Like. I know. And so she was like, you know. I'm not here like, oh man. But I'm like, okay. Yeah, you're the one that's leaving, okay.

See you later. Okay, but let's talk about Samantha. Okay. You seemed like you were into her. You really did at first. Yeah. And then you didn't fight it once you tried to leave. So walking through that.

Okay. Were you into her at first? I'd like to hear this explanation myself. Yeah. You were, yeah. But yeah, I mean, she was always teetering on the edge of leaving the whole time. You think?

No, I know. Why? Yeah, because I mean, I hung out with all of them. Right. So it didn't surprise me at all when she decided to go. It was almost like too cool. We like knew each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And we like, I talked with all the girls about all this stuff prior to it happening. Samantha and I had talked about it, like I'm gonna go home and I was like, okay, just let me know before you do. Just like, give me a warning. And that's what she did. She came up and was like, hey, it's happening tonight.

I was like, mm-hmm, go do it. Okay, I really felt like she wanted you to fight for her though. It was, did you think that or no? She could have, I don't know, but I didn't. But it wasn't gonna happen. She was not worth fighting for. You didn't?

Well, you know, like even if I did, she still probably would have gone home. So why was she always saying she was potentially gonna leave? Nah, I think she really just, I don't think she ever really wanted to go on. Oh. Yeah. I think one of her friends told her like,

hey, you know, go on the show. She seemed like one leg out the whole time, kinda. Yeah. I think the producers really wanted her to. I see. What did you think when she denied your kiss? Like, what did you really think? I'll tell you what I was living.

I ripped off my mic and I was pissed off because. You can say it. You can say it. The date was like all about drinking martinis. I love martinis. So I thought, why don't you do that? Cause it's like your thing. So I drank an entire thing of Grey Goose.

I don't mix it with vermouth. It was just straight vodka. So I was feeling good. She was looking good. I was feeling good. And then behind her, the producers are doing, make sure this is done, Paul. Hold it, William, Matt.

I got you, buddy. They were doing like this. No. I was like, all right. She was looking at my lips all the time. Oh my God. I was like, I don't really, I got your buddy. They were doing like this. No. I was like, all right, you know, she was looking at my lips all the time. And like, I was like, I don't really, I got it. I felt like that was, I was like, sorry. Don't keep holding it.

I was like, I don't really know what else to ask her. And they were like, I think you got more questions. And she was like, yeah, I think you got something else. I was like, Oh my gosh, she beat you. For sure it was. No way. But then right when that happened, I like took my mic off.

I like, I'm like, yeah, you tricked me and all this stuff. And like, you said that to her? Not to her, no, I was mad at the producers. Okay, okay. I turned around and I look at like 20 people and they're all going, I'm just like, I see you were pissed. Yeah, I think you called me after that.

I did. But then we came back and like, they talked to me and all this stuff. And then Samantha was like, no, we can do it again. And like, I'll make it better for you and all that stuff. So she was good about it. Oh, that's good. Yeah, well they still put that same part in, right?

What? The original. The original. Oh, well, I wanted them to, quite frankly. Cause the other way we did it just was really dumb. Yeah. They made me ask her, I kinda wanna kiss you right now,

but that would have been really lame. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I just said keep in the original one. But you didn't say that. I'm not gonna hang out with you anymore. The fake reaction. Because the real one would have gotten me booted. I mean, I think it worked out.

It was kind of an iconic moment on the whole season. Yeah, it really was. It was my favorite. Yeah, no, it was good. That's why I'm like, I mean, I think it it worked out. It was kind of an iconic moment on the whole Yeah, really? My favorite yeah, no, it was good. That's why I'm like, I mean people like I'll run into people who asked me about it What about me? Everyone wants to know are you gonna kiss on camera? Are we gonna see that happen? Well, wait, this is Aaron after right so we're gonna see by the time this airs we will have seen your last solo date Yeah, my plan like going into the whole thing was like I don't want to like try to kiss every girl I love it's not my style

Yeah, and I knew too if I do end up like finding the right girl and then we later watch it together Like sorry made out with everybody. Yeah So we're gonna see you kiss on Thursday? It's possible. Wait, and your date was, hold on, I have her name. Hold on. What was your date's name again? For your last solo date? It was Chelsea.

Chelsea, I like her. Yeah, she's cool. So we actually kissed off camera first. How? We were on our date and they're like filming us walking away together. And then we kind of just like dipped into this arena. Cute.

And they're like like nobody was around. That's cute. And then I think they could, we had our mics on so I think they like realized based off what we were saying or whatever. So then they like come running in with the cameras and I'm like, you guys have like, did you just kiss? And I'm like, no. You just heard me, my lips.

Like, no. Really intense jump. Smacking your lips. No, just like the conversation I think. And then they come like running in. And they're like, you have to do it again. So, so I negotiated. I made some deals.

Yeah, cause I wanted some things. Smart. I got a couple of cold beers cause it was hot out. Love that. And then I got to have all the girls come up for dinner. It's my brother's place like off camera. Oh, that's great. Cause it had been like, it was towards the end of the show.

At that point in my brother and sister in law, like had he even got to meet any of them, they live on the same property Wow. I was like, alright, like let the girls come up Oh good. So that ended up being like one of the most fun. Oh, that's great smart Little negotiation you like the Shawshank. So why did Lily get the first kiss from you? It made the most sense. Yeah made the most sense not very like endearing No, and I wanted to well made the most sense. Not very like endearing. I know. And I wanted to. Well, it made the most sense. I wanted to.

I can't wait to see who you guys pick at the end of this thing. Is there a world in which you don't pick anybody? Can that happen? Yeah, it happened last season. Oh, it did? Should have done more research. Yeah. No, I thought that they brought back the couple from...

Well, there's four guys. Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Four is a lot, by the way. Four is a lot. It's a lot of storyline. Especially 40 minutes. I think it's too many to like learn and like remember one's names and know what's going on. That's why I can't remember any of the girls' names.

Yeah, like even watching it like and then they they go from like one ranch to the next and like what property am I even looking at? Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. Could you tell if there were girls there that just wanted to be on TV? How could you tell? You just like a sixth sense. You just kind of know. But I would I will say I was surprised

in how many girls were pretty serious and like pretty like actually there. 98% genuine. I was most of them were. There's a handful that kind of stuck out. They weren't. But yeah, pretty much all of them were like, actually good. Like good girls.

Yeah, I was shocked. And I think at least open to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't speak for anyone else, too. like I was the oldest out of the guys. And so my girls were a little older, like around 30-ish versus like... Children? Like, some of his girls were like early children. I think my girls were like a little more serious.

Yeah, that makes sense. But... Okay, wait, let's talk about the last solo dates. Because I haven't seen it yet, but this will... We will have by the time this comes out, how they go. So obviously yours went well, cause you were making out. Yeah, you could say that went well. Okay, great. How did yours go?

Great. Yours was with? Claire. Claire. Yeah, they were great, but my God, they were miserable. What do you mean? At the same time. Well, we just spent the entire evening freezing

and sleeping in. It was right after camping. Well, most of the stuff you do is like semi-staged, you know, like all these activities we're doing, you're not like actually, and then we get to- Wait, no, explain that, cause- So like, you'll see us like buzzing around on the ranger with all the girls in there having fun.

Well, that was literally like, you know, you come around a corner for 30 seconds and then, okay, yeah. You know, you're not like actually having fun cruising around. They wouldn't let you guys cruise around at all. I did. That's where I got wet really.

That's where I got wet really. That's where our team fucking socked. It's basically like that. I liked it, I'm not gonna shit on anyone, but like, fuck, it wasn't very fun. That was terrible. Yeah. And I was alone most of the time by myself.

That's brutal. But you could go out and do whatever that you wanted. I had a blast. Yeah, good for you, John. And I see the behind the scenes footage and they're all laughing. Well, I was told- Good for you. Yeah, good for you, John. And I see they're like behind the scenes footage and they're all like laughing and like. Well, I was told. Good for you.

Yeah, great. I was told prior to going in by like somebody who had experience with stuff like this. And they like asked me, how would you react to like this happening? And I told them they're like way wrong. You got to go into it with the mindset that like, it's weird, but like you got to go into it with mindset. Like they all are working in your environment.

You got to like keep everybody happy. Oh, interesting. So if you start like, yeah. Okay. So how was Claire? Claire was great. Yeah. We had like conversations that were very different from everybody

else's cause we were like very different. We had different upbringings, but we agreed on the same values and all that stuff. But do you kiss her on the same values and all that stuff. But. Do you kiss her? On the date? Yeah. Didn't you watch it?

It's not, I will be getting it tomorrow. Oh, no. Why not? We were miserable, tired, pissed off, dirty. Yeah, okay fair. I mean it was bad. Yeah, well back to what I was saying earlier, so like you do the stage stuff,

and then we get to this camping, and I'm like, oh, they're gonna have us like act like we're camping. No, they're like. That was the one thing you had to do. I then we get to this camping and I'm like, oh they're gonna have us like Act like we're camping. No, like One thing you had to do. I didn't get like everyone had like these air mattresses. I didn't get one I'm like sleeping on the ground or the tip. Oh, I know you had a really rough man He was in the tent by himself. I was outside freezing. You could have came in those room I didn't know what you mean you guys

Yeah, it was miserable and then the girls are doing their makeup in the cars in the morning and like everyone, then it got really hot, everyone was pissed off. So it was Texas. They didn't give us enough drinks. It was Houston, Texas. So like the nighttime got freezing cold. And then when the sun kind of come up at like six in the morning, we were sweating.

And all we packed was flannel and sweat shirts. And you're like on camera in the morning. I love camping, but that was not. Camping on camera is awful actually. Awful. In the morning, you know, actually. Awful. I've done that too. In the morning, we woke up and I woke up looking like a train wreck. Looked like he was gonna kill somebody.

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How do you guys think of how you're portrayed on the show? I know you kind of said that you didn't. Yeah, like I was saying earlier, I'm like, what a dork. No, I don't get that. I think like I was saying, it just felt so serious and it wasn't like fun. So I was just like really like kind of in a weird head space I guess. Yeah. I don't know.

But you're happy as a cucumber. I'm happy. John's just like having a blast over there. I don't think they altered anything. Oh, that's good. I just feel like it was an accurate representation. Yeah, except for some like situations. It was like, it didn't go down like that.

Just like how you reacted to certain things. Yeah, and like how certain things played out. Like Kaylee going home, her and I agreed beforehand, like, you know, unfortunately tonight's the night, like I have to send you home tonight. Oh. But yeah, it was not like her breaking up with me. It was like, I was mutually saying like,

yeah, it's time to go. Interesting. Matt, was there anything like that for you that was kind of- No, they kept us separate and they were like, don't let her know at all until you tell her. So it was always like horrible when it happened. Well, you could have, you don't need to.

We'd all be like having dinner, like cheers and go wine, the girls are having a blast. And I'm like, hey, can I talk to you over here? And then everyone's like, oh shit. That would be awful to have to let them go. Yeah. You know what camping too, what they did to us is they, we asked them for booze once the cameras wrapped and they only gave us two bottles of wine for what for everybody the team people

Yeah, 20 people miles wine so we had a ration wine And then they had the fire chief come and put out the fire So the dark freezing and I spent like 20 minutes walking around the entire property collecting lanterns And then we put them in the fire pit. We had like an electric fire. I was, the girls couldn't blow up their air mattresses. So I would go around and do it for them and I would trade them wine. That was smart.

Please ration them wine. They didn't give you a thing to blow it up for them? No. Using your mouth to blow up their air mattresses? It's horrible. That's crazy guys. It's a lot of fogs. So was camping your least favorite thing to film or what else?

It was the also it was not fun that part but it was the only time the whole cast got to be off camera together. So that was like fun. It was the most fun part I don't want to have again. Right, right, right. Okay well what was your least favorite thing to film? Like was there one thing, like having to let a girl go, a girl leaving? I can't say yet. Oh, it's coming up. Coming up, yeah.

It is? Oh, I can't wait to see. My ending? Your ending? Oh yeah, he's in. Your like show ending is your least favorite thing? Not that, just part of it. Oh, I'm dying to know now.

Yeah, it was a very fun experience for me. It's pretty interesting. I'm curious to see how it plays out because we don't get to see it either, so I'm not sure how now. It was a very fun experience for me. It was pretty interesting. I'm curious to see how it plays out because we don't get to see it either, so I'm not sure how it's gonna be portrayed. So you guys are literally watching it on TV for the first time with everybody else. Yes.

How nerve wracking is that? Yeah. It's not too bad because I don't remember anything really bad. Like the one thing I was worried about is already long past. The Samantha stuff. The Samantha stuff.

So now it's just, I'm having a blast. That's crazy though, that you guys don't get it beforehand. I know. Talk to me about the Samantha Tucker wetmore drama. There's talk to me. Hi, John. John can't stand that guy. Tucker wetmore.

No, I'm just kidding. What did you say? I was just trying to like, Yeah, I like that. Stuck the fire a little bit. You can't stand that guy. You can't stand that guy. You can't stand him.

I'm kidding. No, I really wish there was some juicy tea to tell you, but there's nothing to it. So how did it come about? It came about, I guess Samantha filmed a TikTok with Tucker Webmore, great. And then we, for Stagecoach, went with 1AM Management Company on this bus

to the rodeo and then to Stagecoach. And for some reason they wrapped the bus with 1 a.m. management company on this bus to the rodeo and then to stage coach and for some reason they wrapped the bus with our faces. Side point, hated it. So we're on the bus and you know we're they're supposed to be making TikToks and content with us because it's like part of the deal with 1 a.m. and Fox so she just happened to make one with Tucker Wetmore's ex-girlfriend. Yeah just kind of wondering. I didn't think about it until afterwards somebody said she used to date Tucker Wetmore's ex-girlfriend. Yeah, just. I kinda wonder if it was. And I didn't think about it until afterwards, somebody said she used to date Tucker Wetmore, and I was like, oh, they made a tic tac.

Oh, yeah. I saw it, and I was like, wait a minute. I kinda wondered if that was a sumptuous. I felt like you had no idea, honestly. He did, no, I know he did. No clue. But she obviously obviously. Maybe, I don't know, I doubt it.

She said, I don't think she did, really. That doesn't happen. Because it was part of the job. Yeah, but why didn't she do one with Matt? Because it was the stop for a minute smile one. That's like a two person deal. TikTok's not for me. I know you really wish you and me and Tarker Wetmore

would have it out in the ring, don't you? Yeah, kind of. There's no reason to. I was hoping to like set up one of those fights, you know? No, no. Kind of get the whole thing going. Yeah, I'll just take a break from exams and fight a country star. Oh yeah, you just took your law?

Yeah, law school exams. Thank God they're done. So did you get it? How does that work? Did you pass? I don't know, we'll find out. When do we find out? It was just my 2L year.

It's not like I'm taking a bar or anything. Oh, okay, okay, Got it. Got it. Oh, was there any other juicy drama that happened off camera that we didn't see? Mmm. Like anything that didn't make it to air? Mine was aired, but it was like that. One of the girls like snuck out in the morning and all that stuff. Did you see that?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, that was so jealous. And they thought that she was with you. Yeah. And then everyone accused you of lying. Yeah, so I knew at the time when I had to talk about it, I was like, I shouldn't even talk about it because no matter if I did it or not,

there's gonna be half the people are gonna think I did, and so whatever, too late now. And you were not with her? No, ridiculous. Or were you? It wasn't that big of a deal, and the other girl that was leaving, they didn't like each other and it ended up being this whole thing.

So what did you think when you watched it back and you saw that the girls didn't trust you? Oh, I knew they didn't at the time. Oh, okay. I like come down the road in the morning or the producer calls me, he's like, do you know what's going on down here? And I'm like, no.

It's like first thing in the morning, you know? And I get down there and all the girls are just like standing around like, oh, pissed off, you know? I'm like, what happened, you know? Oh my god. It's like 9 a.m. How did something already go bad? Yeah, literally.

And then I had to like have a big talk with them off camera and then I had to talk to the other girl and she had to go stay in a hotel like separate and it was all this drama and then I had to talk about it on camera. Oh my god. What about when you watch it back though and you hear some of what the girls are saying? Are you like, what the hell? That's crazy too, because we didn't know any of that stuff. Yeah, I never really thought about it, you know?

That's when, yeah, the whole Samantha stuff, that's when it started. I was like, she said all that on the first night? Yeah, we didn't get to see any of that, so that's kind of interesting. I didn't know I was walking on dental floss. Yeah. My God. Yeah, are you kind of like, what the hell?

Yeah, I was like, good, I mean, good Lord, but you know. It would have changed. Are you kind of like, what the hell? Yeah. It's like, I mean, good Lord. But you know. It would have changed things if you could have heard. It definitely would have changed stuff if we could have heard all that. Right? But it should actually be privy to what they're saying. I agree.

Well, yeah. But it would have ruined the show. Yeah, true, true, true. She wouldn't have gone home with me. That's true. Oh, true, true. Yeah, true. Okay. I want to play a game with you guys. Okay. Okay. And it's called Hot or Not.

And I'm gonna give you guys scenarios with girls and you just tell me if you think it's hot or not. Okay. Okay. She's been on multiple reality shows. Not. Dating shows? In my head when I wrote this, I was thinking dating shows.

Okay, then no, yeah, not hot. I'd probably say no on that one. Yeah, okay. It was just normal, like Survivor and stuff. Survivor, that's hot. She was on Naked and Afraid. Naked and Afraid. Yeah. OK. It was just normal, like survivor and stuff. Survival. That's hot. She was on naked naked and afraid. Yeah. OK, she's a city girl.

OK, you guys don't care about that. Good style. People get asked that so much. I'm like, you do. I'm not looking for some girl to get out here and like. Plus, I literally. What if she's a farmer also? Either way, I'm finding the way.

She wants to introduce you to her parents after three dates. Whatever. That's not like a black and white question. I'm finding the way. Okay. She wants to introduce you to her parents after three dates. Whatever. That's not like a black and white question. She just says she's moving quickly. Yeah. You know? But maybe you are too. Maybe if we're really falling in love.

It's like farmer wants a wife. Aw man. Yeah. We technically did. Not gonna answer. I know. You're not gonna answer? That's true.

You're leading the fifth. The best. Yeah. Okay, she's going to answer. True. You're leading the faith. OK, she's the homebody. Not no. Oh, you're a big party guy. You like to get out and about. No, I know. Your social butterfly. That's not hot to be at home all the time.

I'm never at home. What are you doing? I don't know. Just out and about. Just out. Doing stuff. I don't know. Now, I like I mean, I like being at home sometimes, but I like to be on the move. I think it's hot.

You like it? Yeah. When I think homebody, I think of someone like lounging around watching TV. Well, yeah, there's a difference between that. True, I'm a homebody. I never wanna leave my house. Yeah, but I mean, look at it.

This takes work. Thank you. Yeah, you're not just lounging. True, no, I'm not. Yeah. I don't even, your show's the only show I've watched in months. I don't watch TV. I don't either. Thank you. You're not just the engine. True, no I'm not. Yeah. I don't even, you guys, your show's the only show I've watched in months. I don't watch TV.

I don't either. Thank you. Yeah. We don't. I never watched the show before we were moving on. Yeah. I don't even know what show we're on. Yeah, I know, me neither. I watched a little bit of season two after I knew I was gonna be on it

and I was like, I should probably take a look at this research purposes. Just to be. That was smart. Okay, she wants six kids. I feel like you, did you say that on the show? Yeah, I did. Yeah. You want a bunch too?

I am. I think as many as I can get. You guys are gonna be busy. She's been drinking when you pick her up for your first date. Depends on how much, because that's annoying. But you can tell. The way you're saying it, I feel like.

Oh, you can tell? You can tell. Ugh, don't even get in the car. Right, that's true. Keep drinking. Probably not, yeah. Stay here. She had like a glass of wine, fine, but. Right, right, right.

One day I did that and accidentally told me she smoked meth. What? While she was all drunk. Good Lord. On the date. Oh my God. I was like, my God. Still the first date?

Let me buy you a drink. You don't need to get slammed before the date. Jeez. Yeah. Missing teeth and stuff? Or did you have missing teeth and stuff? She did it one time, apparently. Oh my God. Kind of people you you hanging out with?

Yeah, what is happening over there? I don't know. I wonder who went on the show. You need some help. She swears like a trucker. Not. Not. Yeah.

Not. I don't have anything against it, but. It depends on what kind. If she's rude about like. Yeah, if it's an F-bomb left and right. Well, until like, no, you're acrylic, no, where you're at, you know? 100%, okay. Okay If she's like rude about like. Yeah, if it's an F-bomb left and right. Well, until like, no, you're a crowd like, nowhere you're at, you know? 100%, okay.

Okay, she's an influencer. Typically that's not because, yeah. No, I think that could go either way. I know. Yeah. So what if you're dating and she's always filming content and she like, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I wanna be a real person too.

Yeah. Like, not talking shit about anyone, but like we're all these influencer people. And like, granted we what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I want to be a real person too. Yeah. Like not talking shit about anyone, but like real, all these influencer people and like granted we're at Stagecoach, but like no one was even like enjoying the event, you know? I know, I know. And like- Because everyone's worried about their next ticker.

I don't think I could be an influencer because I get wrapped up and when I'm like, Stagecoach, I was just having a blast. I didn't take like any photos or videos, you know? That's how it should be. Yeah. All right, John, what about you? Hot or not?

It's hot. Because usually they're good-looking. You say it like that. If they're influencers, usually very good-looking, but. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. Okay, so hot? Hot in that sense, in the shallow sense, yeah.

Okay, fair. She already has a kid. You already said it earlier, kinda. I've dated. You've dated girls with kids? I've dated a girl. Oh no, one of the girls was married before. Alex was married before, but she didn't have any kids, right? Oh, no, that Alex was like, who? Alex, that was one of your girls. She was married. She was your ex-girlfriend.

I forgot. Your ex-girlfriend. Yeah, she was married briefly, I believe. No kids though. No kids, okay. But you've dated girls with kids? Okay. So hot. I mean, yeah, super hot. Super hot.

That's super hot. Yeah, John does that story. Do you guys like being in entertainment? Will you pursue this or are you excited for life to go back to normal? It's pretty fun. I mean, right now we've been having a blast. We just keep doing this stuff. We're just getting like flown around and doing cool events. Yeah. And mean, right now we've been having a blast. Like if we just keep doing this stuff, we're just getting like

floating around and doing cool events. Yeah. Like not, you know, enjoying ourselves. So I don't know where it could go. So it's just, you know, just going along for the ride. And you guys ever like host or something? Depends on what it is. I don't think anyone would let me do that. Farmer wants a wife next year. Both of us. Yeah. Farmer wants a husband because then it would switch. Yeah. That's us. They're gonna do the new version.

Oh, God. A little joke just to clarify. I know we can cut that out if you want. No, you guys are the best. I really appreciate you being here and I need you to send me avocados. I know I was going to bring some stuff, but we're not quite in season. So when is avocado season? It's like just starting, but they get better as time goes on. I'll send you. When is avocado season? It's like just starting, but they get better

as time goes on. I'll send you a box. I can't wait. I can't wait. What can you send me? What do you got? Anything you want, I guess. We brought you gifts today.

What'd you bring me? I almost forgot. Yeah, so we- Okay, let's see. We were- It's not gonna match anything here, so. Full disclosure. Well, this is just like, maybe my house will.

Let's see. No, I don't think so. I'll tell you why. I mean, we full disclosure, we were on the way and we're like, we should get her something. Yeah. Relate. Yeah. So we stopped at an antique store.

Okay. Of all places. I love that. And we were just like, let's go in and find something. It'll be easy. Um, but we ended up spending like 20 minutes in there and our brain was scrambled eggs because there's stuff everywhere. Well, we felt dumb because we didn't think about it until we got in the car.

It's like we didn't bring anything. You guys didn't have to give me anything though, by the way. Well, we felt dumb because we didn't think about it until we got in the car. It's like we didn't bring anything. How rude. You guys didn't have to give me anything though, by the way. Well, we wanted this like a new studio warming. The wrapping is phenomenal. Yeah, don't worry. You can do that one first and then you can open this one. There's one.

Oh my God, this is awesome, you guys. That's the two of us. Yeah, so that's like a representation of what we're gonna be. We wanted you to remember us. Oh, we left the price tag around. The price tag's still on it. Dang it. I thought she did get off. Pull that off.

Ignore that. That's so funny. No, you guys, this is awesome. I love this. Thank you. Yeah. Anytime. Yeah, we pre-planned that months in advance.

Don't worry. Right there. Oh yeah. Feng Shui. Farmer Mad, Farmer John. Very chic. No, this is great. Here was the other one.

It's nice of you guys to even get me anything at all. Matt, you don't want to help out? No. Yeah, he really, I don't think he wants to take credit for this one. I was just walking through the store and I saw it and it like spoke to me, so. Right.

It was kind of nice. I'm dying. John goes, how about this? And I'm like, I don't know about that one. I love it. I don't know why, it like spoke to me. She goes right here. Perfect.

And it scares me. It's like a reflection of our own mortality, you know? It's just like. This is great. Like an Italian grandma. Perfect. It's like a reflection of our own mortality, you know? It's just like. This is great. Like an Italian grandma. Yeah. She seems sweet. She seems great.

She probably smells terrible, but looks like she makes great food. You guys, thank you so much. That was specific to John. You're welcome. You're so sweet. What do you mean? I know we outdid ourselves here.

You guys really went above and beyond. No, you guys are the best and I appreciate you coming to Nashville. Thank you for being here. We love it here. It's the best. Is this our third time here in like three months? I love that.

Well, next time you come, you'll have to let me know again. We'll go ahead at Broadway. Yes. We'll do it right. Just what we need. Yeah, right? I like it better out here to be honest with you. I know.

I know. I only dip into Nashville periodically. Okay, but tell everyone where they can find the show and then where they can find you guys individually. The airs on Fox Thursday then where they can find you guys individually. It airs on Fox Thursday nights live, I guess you could say. Your local Fox station, 9, 8 Central. Through May. Still trying to get that down right.

I think we're like three or four more episodes left. Well, okay, by the time this airs, I think there's three more. Okay, three more. And then it goes on the Hulu the next day and then you can also find it on there. Oh, nice. Okay, that's great. And it's on Disney Plus too

because I guess they're together and then. Okay. Yeah. And then our socials. Yeah, throw out the socials guys. Not John Sansone. That's pretty boring, it's just Matt Warren. How many underscores though?

You got a what, 30 of them? Oh you gotta throw out those, they'll never find you. Yeah, they'll never find you. Oh come on, they'll find me. It's like what, six of them? No, it's three. It's the closest I can find.

Do you really have three? It's the closest I could find. Do you really have three? It's the closest I could find. Yeah. It's- Oh, that's great. I'm not very good at that. I'm not like John over here. I know. Well, we all can't be TikTok stars.

I know. You know how many people have said to me like, I've never watched the show, but I see John's TikToks. Really? Yeah. That's funny. Yeah, he's just carrying this show.

He makes good ones too. I saw one pop up the other day with a little boy in it. Who was that boy? That's my nephew. Your nephew, that was cute. Yeah. He knows what he's doing with that. He sure does.

I think you guys both know what you're doing. No. Not at all. Well, I can't wait to see who you guys pick and see who your new wife is. Oh yeah. I can't wait. So I'm gonna get you my seat. It's gonna be fun. You guys are the best. Thanks for having us. wife is. Oh yeah. So I'm gonna enter my seat.

It's gonna be fun. Thanks for having us. Thank you. It's been a great time. It's been a great time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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