Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - Honestly Cavallari Episodes 5 + 6: Boston Pt 2 and NYC
Episode Date: July 1, 2025Get ready for our final recap episode of Honestly Cavallari! It's time to break down the episode with Craig and Austen, why our headlines really rocked my world, why Craig was so pissed walki...ng off stage, and whether I think he lied to me or not. Then, I talk about the Honestly Cavallari finale with the Garcia twins, Nikki and Bella, and I really am so excited we ended on a high note with these two strong, independent women. Plus, I talk about my journey in the past few weeks being ok with being misunderstood. Then, I remember coming home on such a high from the tour and share why I really loved the ending of Honestly Cavallari. A word from my sponsors:Hiya - Go to hiyahealth.com/HONEST to receive 50% off their best selling children's vitamin. Foria - Get 20% off your first order by visiting foriawellness.com/HONEST or use code HONEST at checkout. Armra - Go to Tryarmra.com/HONEST or enter code HONEST to get 15% off your first order. Cymbiotika - Go to cymbiotika.com/HONEST for 20% off your order + free shipping today Simply Pop - Go to cokeurl.com/simplyPOP to find out where you can try Simply Pop!Fora - So whether you're looking to plan a trip or build a buisness planning trips - visit foratravel.com/honest and let them know you came from HONEST to learn what it means to travel.For more Let's Be Honest, follow along at:@kristincavallari on Instagram@kristincavallari and @dearmedia on TikTokLet's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari on YouTubeProduced by Dear Media.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open
on everything from sex, relationships, reality TV, wellness, family, and so much more.
And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing.
Okay, guys, this is it.
Kind of bittersweet, but it is the last two episodes
of Honestly Cavallari.
Episodes five and six.
Today we are gonna recap them.
And God, it flew by.
I mean, I knew it was gonna fly by.
It's only six episodes and it was only four weeks
because they aired the first two together
and the last two together. But God, it was over in the flash of an eye. So we're going to start with Boston Night Two,
which is of course, Craig and Austin. This was actually my favorite live podcast show.
I think it was my favorite episode. I don't know, it's hard to say,
but it's definitely up there.
It was the most fun I had at a show.
I felt like it was my personal best show.
I think it's because I was just excited to talk about
what happened with Craig Austin and I,
because I had never really talked about it
for the most part.
And there's a real friendship there.
And I just, I, there's an ease, at least on my end.
I felt like I had no idea until I watched this,
how mad Craig was.
I knew night of, you know, my producer told me
that they took their microphones off,
like you see on the show and that they were mad. But until you actually see it firsthand, I didn't understand
the magnitude of it. And so we're going to get there. We're going to get to why he was
really mad and I can understand it. But let's back up. Okay, so The episode starts with Justin and I walking around Seaport and I really did want to go and look for
well look at the area because we had been sort of looking at Seaport a couple specific locations for an uncommon James store and
I'm kind of I'm happy that I went because
Seaport was not what I had expected
I don't know. It was super industrial to me and felt like
a financial district, which I say on the show. If we open up a store in Boston, I don't think
that's where I would do it. So I'm happy that we went and looked around. But this was like
another one of the situations where had I not been filming a TV show, I 1000% would
have been like, you know what? I know I'm in Boston, but I'm exhausted. So I'm actually
not going to go look at Seaport. Like I'll see it another time because I just would have been too tired and I would have
just I wanted to preserve my energy and just probably kind of been in bed all day or like maybe
work out or whatever. But I didn't really feel like I could do that. So we did go and look at
Seaport and now looking back on it, I'm happy that we did because now we are not pursuing a store there.
Also another thing that we did, I don't know if you guys saw me post about Fallon or maybe
even saw me on Jimmy Fallon, but Justin and I did go to this workout class like Jump
Boston or something to that effect.
And we did this workout class in these ridiculous, but so fun, these like bouncy moon boot things.
They almost look like a roller blade. I think I told you guys on the podcast before. They kind of look like a
roller blade that then has this like bouncy thing on the bottom. And it was so
funny. I'm kind of bummed that got cut from the show because it would have been
really great. And Jimmy Fallon and I did those on his show. And this is obviously
before I knew what made it and what didn't make it. And so when I told the
Fallon producer like you know this was on the show, this is going
to, I think, be really funny.
It made sense, not knowing that it wasn't actually going to make the show.
Anyways, that's neither here nor there.
So let's talk about the Craig and Austin of it all.
And I say some of this on the show, but the reason why these particular headlines and
this media frenzy was such a big deal for me was because it was the first
really big thing after my divorce and
You know like the first guy that I dated this comedian after my divorce there were it was written about but it wasn't this like
scandalous headline I hadn't dealt with
Scandalous headlines other than my actual divorce, but those weren't even like that scandalous headline. I hadn't dealt with scandalous headlines other than my actual divorce, but those
weren't even like that scandalous I would say. I hadn't dealt with like a scandal in, you know,
I mean if I was with my ex-husband for 10 years, this was probably a year after, like probably like
12 or 13 years. And so it was a lot for me and this was the first time I had dealt with a scandal
as a mom.
And so it was, it like really kind of rocked my world.
I wanted to kind of like hide out.
I remember I like went through this phase
where I didn't really wanna leave my house,
which I know like, it sounds awful you guys.
And I've gone through phases like that.
That's just kind of what happens
when you do go through something publicly
that's like kind of a big deal and it's like something you're not too excited about.
Like I went through moments like that living in LA too back in the day.
But it also kind of like makes you question who's in your life if you can trust people.
And at the time guys, I really felt like Craig and Austin were adding fuel to the fire and really
trying to capitalize on this. And that to the fire and really trying to capitalize
on this. And that was the part that really upset me, like really, really upset me. And,
you know, here's the thing with these 20 minute episodes, you could only explain so much.
And so really, what was going through my head at the time was like how the love triangle
with the three of us came about was because obviously there were rumors of Craig and I hanging out and then Austin like I'll
never forget it he went on watch what happens live and Andy had asked him
about it and Austin almost kind of like tried to make it seem like it was
actually him that was hanging out with me so that's why then people started
getting really confused and that's where I I'm sorry but I'll just say it as a
fucking veteran when
it comes to this shit, I was like taking a step back and watching it from the outside
being like, these motherfuckers are just adding fuel to the fire and it really, it really
rubbed me the wrong way because I've always come from the camp of, if you want something
to go away, you just don't talk about it. It's that simple because then it will blow over. I say all of this and listen. Where I've
gotten to with my comfort level in the public is wild to me actually and it's
because of this podcast because I'm talking into a camera by myself I feel
real comfortable and then shit goes everywhere. But even it's funny because I
even look at them when I was doing the Back to the Beach podcast,
Steven and I played Sip or Spill.
This is how I even first heard about the game.
And I remember one of the questions was,
rank your boyfriends in order of best to worst.
And I remember being like, oh my God,
I could never do that.
Like I would get in so much trouble.
Cut to what, three years later,
I would answer that in a heartbeat, you know? I just, I don't know. I've gotten exceptionally comfortable
answering things that I quite honestly probably shouldn't be answering even on
my podcast or playing separate spill or answering questions from the audience.
Like I probably answered more than I should have. You know? I don't know. I
don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. It just sort of is what it is. This podcast has made me really comfortable sharing a lot. And I have said,
if the Craig Austin and I stuff came out today, I probably wouldn't have cared. It was just where I
was at four years ago, I guess it was. I was in a much more vulnerable state. And listen, there are
zero hard feelings there. I don't think they had bad intentions or like any ill will of trying to
like capitalize on it. I think it was more just at the time that was my takeaway from it. That's all.
But I look back on it and I don't feel that way. What's the what well? Is that true? I look back on it and I
Think they were probably excited about the attention is what I would say
I don't think they were trying to take advantage of it
But I think they were excited about it and I think probably they didn't also know how to navigate it
You don't know how to navigate something like that until you've been through it
I mean it took me a lot of trial and error of
Living through a lot of bullshit in the press to realize,
you know what, if I actually just don't comment, it goes away a lot faster.
But that's learned with time.
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You guys, I didn't know that this was going on.
Obviously, Peyton, my social media girl, came back and she said that the boys were giving
me shade and then I think a producer was like, they're not happy that you're not saying hi
to them.
In hindsight, 1000%.
They had every right to be like,
why the hell is she not saying hi to me?
I really just wanted the first time
that I saw them to be on stage.
I mean, it was that pure of an intention.
I just didn't want anything to come out
before we got on stage.
But yes, I realized it's not like we're gonna get
into the nitty gritty and be like, whatever. Like I knew I could not ask them questions that I wanted to ask on stage
So I'm glad I did end up going upstairs and saying hi to them in their green room and then having them come down to mine
Because yeah, they were bitter
I mean, I didn't I didn't know they were so bitter and this is the first time I had seen Craig in years
I mean since pre-page. Oh, actually, that's not true. I
I had seen Craig in years. I mean since pre-Page. Oh actually that's not true. I saw Craig and Paige at the MTV Movie Awards a few years ago. But I mean okay
that I saw them one time for five seconds. That was the only time I had
seen Craig in years since you know I guess the last time we had hung out.
Austin I had seen a few times. Austin came to Nashville. Actually he's come a
few times and Justin and I have seen him I think on every occasion that he's come a few times and Justin and I have seen him, I think on every occasion
that he's come.
So, and we've kept in touch.
So, I've seen Austin, but it was definitely the first time I'd seen Craig in a long ass
time.
Austin getting makeup is so funny to me.
It's so funny to me.
I say this with the most love, but these boys watching this show came off like such divas, I think, I personally
think, which is really funny to me.
I just think they came off like little reality TV divas, but him getting his eyebrows darkened,
I just, I was laughing so hard.
So night two in Boston, this crowd was the best crowd.
If you were there in the audience, I fucking love you. You guys were awesome. Fucking awesome. This was a Thursday
night. Was this a Thursday night? I want to say it was a Thursday night. Maybe a Wednesday.
Maybe this was a Wednesday. But either way, the crowd was getting a little lit.
They were having fun. They showed up. This theater, I said it last week, but this was
my favorite theater on the whole tour
So I go out I'm doing my little opening monologue the boys are right, you know to the the side of the stage listening and
You can tell they're like getting a little nervous because I my opening monologue. They don't show a lot of it in
the show they'll show like little glimpse glimpses here and there but
The gist of my opening monologue
was that, you know, my life in the media, I've never felt like I had control over my
voice. But you know, this is the one time in my life I want to give them something to
write about like, let's, you know, let's give them some damn headlines. I do show that in
the show. But and then I'm like, let I want to bring out I'm bringing out people who have
been in the headlines with me to like basically talk about exactly what happened, like
pull back the curtain on it. So when I'm saying that, you can tell that they're like, oh shit,
like we're going to talk about all of the headlines that we were in. Because I know this now,
but I didn't know it at the time. I guess Craig's team had asked my producers to not bring up Paige, which by
the way is totally reasonable. That is a very normal ask. I told you guys last
week on the podcast, I think it was last week, that I typically go into interviews
and say I don't want to talk about my ex-husband. Like there are definitely
requests that you can make. That is not out of the ordinary. However, he never said
anything to me, so I had no idea. He did not want me to ask about Paige. Also, of
course I'm gonna ask you about Paige. That's the last time you and I saw each
other. I want to know if you lied to me about her. Like, what do you mean I'm not
gonna bring up Paige? Of course I'm gonna bring up Paige. Are you kidding me?
Imagine if Craig came out on my podcast tour and I said nothing about him being
single or about what happened with him, me and Paige. Like no I'm sorry Craig
come on. Come on buddy. We love you. Use your head, okay? But yeah so Craig is
nervous. Oh yeah he says he shouldn't be here. I'm just gonna say is he feeling a little guilty because
you know he lied. He knows he lied. I don't know. So like I said there was this love
triangle between Craig Austin and I but then a second love triangle came in when
Paige entered the chat and you know listen, Craig did lie to me about Paige. I actually, sorry Craig, I love you.
On the show, I went back and read our text messages
and it didn't make the show.
I think it didn't make it because you can't read
someone else's text messages unless they sign
a release for it.
So, well, yeah, it's nice having my end of it.
Like you kinda needed his end too to really, really get the gist of it or not get the gist of it
You get the gist of it from my end
But to like really get like the full like meat and potatoes you needed his end to but he did lie to me about Paige
He did
He did he did he did let's just put that out there. And so I
Think there's a little part of him that is just feeling kind of guilty
and like caught red-handed.
I think he has dug himself into a big old hole
in the press as a whole lately.
And this was just one more thing adding to it.
But that's all I'm gonna say, Craig.
I will not read our text messages.
I will not call you out any more than just saying,
you did lie to me, you did, and I still love you.
Okay, I asked the boys the worst rumor they've ever heard about themselves and
Austin says his height online was shorter than he actually is and they're like it
was definitely Madison that changed it. That is so fucking funny to me. Also I
hope it was Madison because that is such a genius move. I'm like, if a
guy pisses me off, I'm a thousand percent going to go on Wikipedia and change their
height to be really short.
Okay. So then we play Sipper Spill and Justin comes out to read the questions because Justin
did in fact come up with these questions. That was not a lie. And so I think the truth
or dare was like a last minute thing because there was a question and then,
I think Justin was actually like,
oh, that's stupid, like I don't wanna ask that.
So then he said truth or dare.
I picked dare because I'm not a little bitch.
And he dares me to kiss Craig on the lips.
And you know, I love that the boys are acting like,
I wanted that, like I'm like, yeah.
And you hear Craig say like my Raya date
was more than a Raya date.
But can I just remind you guys,
I already had my shot in my hand
because I was already taking my shot.
I wasn't like dying to kiss Craig.
I wouldn't have done it even if he was completely single.
I still wouldn't have kissed him.
And then I get off stage and he's like,
by the way, if I wasn't dating someone,
I would have kissed you.
Like I'm out there like, aw, Craig wouldn't kiss me.
Like bitch, I wasn't trying to kiss you either, what?
But the boys get off stage and they're pissed.
Craig says this is about the dumbest thing he's ever done.
And I mean, I don't know.
I just, I didn't know that they were pissed.
Or I guess I should say that Craig was pissed.
I don't think Austin was pissed.
And I get off stage and I'm so fucking hyped
because I felt like that was a great show.
Also on stage, I could not tell him the slightest
that Craig was upset.
I just, I couldn't.
And I asked the boys if they had fun
and they both said yes.
I'm like, well, okay, I mean, fuck.
If you're gonna be bitching about it,
at least just say something to me
and be like, I just wish you didn't ask me about Paige or like say something.
I don't like I don't do that two faced bullshit, man.
Also, you can't be two faced or lie on camera.
Like this is reality 101, people.
You just can't.
You just can't because you will get called out.
I mean, you would think they would know this shit by now.
All right. So that's episode five.
Great episode, my favorite episode.
And then we go into episode six,
which is the finale, of course.
And this podcast episode is with the Garcia Twins,
formerly known as the Bella Twins in New York City.
And it starts with Justin and I driving to the city.
And I will say, again, if it wasn't for a show,
we would have flown.
But they did give us the option.
Before we left for tour, when we were like booking travel
and everything, production asked if we would want to drive.
And Justin and I were like, yeah, actually we would,
because it would be really fun for camera.
So we were all in on that.
And actually, it was kind of fun.
And we stopped at this really great cinnamon roll place too
and got cinnamon rolls on the way,
which I wish I could remember the name
because they were fucking incredible.
But so you realize very, very early on,
I'm not a good co-pilot in the car.
I'm better in the driver's seat.
So we switch and now I'm driving.
And so I have the Bellas come out for the last show because
I've known them for years. I have always from the moment I met them just loved them so much because
they're real, they're fun, they're beautiful, they've been through it in the headlines like
they get this world and so of course with my whole theme of the podcast tour I thought that
they would be great and because you know again I just love them so much and I love strong independent
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So in the car they have us talking about where we should go out tonight.
I think I told you guys this before.
I wouldn't have gone out if it wasn't for the show and I hate to burst everyone's bubble.
I just I'm too much of an old lady these days. This was an exhausting week for me. I wouldn't have gone out if it wasn't for the show and I hate to burst everyone's bubble.
I just, I'm too much of an old lady these days.
This was an exhausting week for me.
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And I went out because I felt sort of like I had to,
you know, and again, I mean, Scoot was in town in New York.
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So there's also a personal part of me
that felt like I needed to, you know,
show up for Scoot too. And we went to the gay bars, we went
to Flaming Saddles which is so so funny but okay but we'll get there. So they
also have me talking about how Harry is also in New York and you know how like
oh I basically could have made out with him but then he was on a date with Lucy Hale the night before,
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Okay, so Justin and I get into another little tiff, you guys.
And Justin and I have been friends for 20 years.
We've gotten in two, two, I wouldn't even call them fights,
two little tiffs in our whole friendship. And then we got in two on two, I wouldn't even call them fights, two little TIFs in our whole friendship.
And then we got in two on tour, which is crazy.
And I think it just speaks to where we were both at
emotionally and physically,
because we were just exhausted all around.
But we're in the car and we're talking about the Q&A
that I did, I guess the night before at the show
and how someone was basically like,
you do it all and you make it look easy.
And I'm like, I know from the outside world
I do make it look easy,
but like I actually, I don't do as much as people think.
And Justin is saying to me that he wishes
I would give myself more credit on stage.
And it's just not me.
I will never ever, ever be able to get up in front of an
audience of people and be like, yeah, you know, I know I do a lot. I work really hard and I'm also
a really good mom and I, you know, like I can't do that. And I think part of it is I don't know any
different. Like for me, this is just my life. I am someone who just, I thrive on going.
Like I don't sit down because once I sit down, I get tired. I crash.
Like I don't like being bored. I've been like that my whole life.
Or I am just like, go, go, go. That is just in my blood. That's just who I am.
And so it feels weird for me to give myself credit for that.
And so it feels weird for me to give myself credit for that. But, you know, I think for me it's hard because if I,
to me it felt like it was a criticism
of what I could have done better on tour.
And in my head I'm like, okay, it's already done.
And also that is so out of character for me.
And I just, like I'll never do that.
And then he changes course and he's like,
no, I'm just saying like, you know, I'm like giving you a compliment. And I'm
like, no, but that's not how you started. Yeah. If you were like, I wish you would
give yourself more credit because you know, you do do a lot. I'd be like, thank
you. I really do appreciate that. But like, I will just never do that. And to me at
first, it just felt like he was saying,
I should be getting up there and having a different answer. And I'm like, I won't, I
can't do that. That was where my frustration was coming from. We actually
had this really great moment in the car too because I was like, you know, the best
thing I learned in therapy, and I've talked about this on the podcast, was if
I'm talking and you're the listener, like here I'm going to tell
you how I feel and then you basically repeat back to me like, okay, I want to make sure this I'm
understanding you correctly. So you feel like, you know, no matter what you could never get up in
front of an audience and give yourself credit. And so this conversation sort of feels like,
like you can't win. And I'd be like, yeah, that's exactly how I feel. And he'd be like, okay,
I totally understand that. Okay, now Justin is the talker and I'm the listener. And he's like, you can't win. And I'd be like, yeah, that's exactly how I feel. And he'd be like, okay, I totally understand that.
Okay, now Justin is the talker and I'm the listener.
And he's like, totally hear you.
And that makes complete sense to me.
I am just telling you as a friend of like,
I see everything you're doing and I appreciate you.
And I'm like, wow, okay, thank you so much.
We had that moment in the car
and we both actually felt so much better after.
But of course, you know, I wish you could,
well, in a lot of ways I wish the show was an hour
because then we could use a lot more of these real moments.
But I also do think that it's great that the show was quick.
So it is what it is, but we did have that really great
therapy moment in the car.
So we get to New York City and like I said,
Scoot is here, which I'm
so excited that Scoot's here. You know, he comes in for the last night and I love when
the Bellas get to the theater. You know, you can just tell certain people are just made
for camera, are made for TV because the Bellas come alive on camera like they've
got personality they've got like they're just so fucking good on camera and I
think like you can kind of tell from the whole season like who really pops on
camera and who doesn't and the Bellas to me really pop on camera so because it's
the last show I'm fucking hyped man like it. Like it's surreal, it's bittersweet.
I'm like, this week actually flew by.
Like, holy shit, I can't believe I made it to the last show.
But I'm like, I'm jacked because of it.
And I will say, listen, the audience was kind of a bummer.
And I don't want anyone who was there
to take that personally.
I know that a lot of people were really excited and were energetic
and were trying to interact with me. I'm not saying everybody in the audience. I'm saying
as a whole, it was the weakest audience that I experienced on the whole tour. Maybe also
because it was also the biggest audience. I also think there's an element because it's
New York City and New York and LA are a bit jaded. I'll stand by
that. I stand by that. It's just the truth. And so yeah, the audience wasn't
nearly as good as some of the other audiences and some things were not
landing and I don't know. I just, it's not a knock because I know that was in
the trailer and people were like really taking that personally. It's not a
personal knock on anybody who was there and I love everyone who came.
And actually, you see later when I'm doing the meet and greet,
I mean, I literally was like,
no one's gonna be excited to meet me.
Cause that was the energy that I felt on stage.
And then actually that was probably my favorite meet and greet
because everyone had a story.
Everyone was really excited.
I mean, like people fucking showed up
and I do love meeting people for these moments
because you guys, I film my podcast for the most part
by myself talking into a camera at my house.
And then it just goes out into the world.
I really don't know the impact that it has
or how it's resonating for people.
I do get DMs and you know,
I'll occasionally see
comments and stuff but overall like I don't know how much it's making an
impact and doing this tour and getting to meet so many of you was the first
time I was like wow it actually is really fucking resonating and you know
you see because I came home from tour, I got really sick actually for
two days. I was laid out for two days. And then I filmed the podcast, my podcast tour wrap up that
they use a little bit of in the finale here when I'm crying. And those emotions were so real. And
I'm actually starting to get a little emotional now because getting to see firsthand that so many of you have a
story about how my podcast or something that I've been through has helped you
and that for me is like okay this is why I'm doing it you know because sometimes
I don't know I'm just like you know spitting things against a wall and
seeing what sticks and that's why I came home on such a high
because of moments like that.
And so I don't want me saying that the audience
was kind of a letdown to take that away at all
because then the meet and greet like really jacked me up
again and I was like, no, I mean, these people fucking care
and that makes me care.
That's why I'm doing this.
And so just, I really don't want anyone
to take that personally.
But okay, let's go back to the, to Nikki and Brie.
You know, they are just, they're so real
and talk about authentic.
You guys know I really value authenticity
and I really appreciated them coming out and especially Nikki coming off of a
divorce and being so open and vulnerable and you know Nikki says because I asked
them about you know in the press if there's anything that they've ever read
that's actually true because you know most of the time it's not and Nikki
talks about how she's always sort of painted as the villain in the media and
yeah I can relate to that. You know,
it's just so interesting. I really do think it's like, if you're a woman and you have a really
strong personality and you know, she was saying how like on the WWE, she's playing this character,
she's like playing this character and like, yeah, she'll body slam a guy on the show. But like,
that's not real. That's not her. And I have felt that coming from
reality TV and playing a character. You know, it's hard. And I've realized
actually during the past month with this show on TV and doing press and all these
things and you know because every time I'm on TV it's like this wave of like
all this shit again. And what I've come to the realization of here in the last month
is I will forever be misunderstood and I have to just get to a place of being okay with that. And
I actually, guys, I really do feel like I'm okay with it now. I really do. I think the very beginning
of this show and the press tour and everything, I was like, it was like making me uncomfortable.
And I decided, I think it was two weeks into the show, I was like, who gives a flying fuck
no matter what? And I've always known this, but no matter what I do or say, A, not everyone's
going to agree with it. And B, people are always going to take a shot of context and
always put their own personal lens on what I said from their trauma, how they grew up, their beliefs, their insecurities.
We all put a filter on everything in the world. And that's why actually you and I can have
the same thing happen to us and have very different experiences. That's why a lot of
times siblings have very different experiences of their parents or their aunts or their own
sibling dynamic because we all have a different lens that we're looking at the
world through. And so I think notoriety, fame, whatever the fuck you want to call
it, I think what that means for me is forever being misunderstood and having to be okay
with it.
And that's okay.
And you know, because the people who get it, which is my podcast listeners, it's you guys.
You guys get me.
You guys know me.
That's what matters to me.
You know, it's nothing else matters.
It really doesn't matter.
So that's what I care about.
And so I really love how honestly
Cavaleri ends. And you know, like I said, so we go to Flaming Saddles, this is a gay
bar with these gay guys dancing on the bars. It's like the gay version of
Coyote Ugly, sort of. And they get me up on the bar dancing. I literally was up
there for five seconds because I was kind of uncomfortable being up there. I
didn't really want to be up there, but I knew it would be a great shot for the end of the
show and it was like all right I'll just I'll fucking do it for two seconds. So I
got up there and I'm really happy I did because it was I love how they ended the
show with this moment up on the bar going out in New York City for the final
night cutting it with my actual podcast that that emotion was so raw and so real
because it was right off
of my tour that you can we couldn't have captured that in the interview chair
not to that level anyways and so I just it this show you guys has felt so real
it was so authentic I'm so happy I did it look now I'm getting emotional again
because I got to tell you like after 21 years of being in the entertainment world, this
show did what I set out to do. More actually than the podcast tour itself did.
Because doing a show, you know, you got to see way more of the behind the scenes.
You got to see me in my house with my kids. You got to see my real life.
I mean, my real emotion. the real shit I'm going through.
And finally, you got to see me for who I am rather than playing a character. And I'm so
thankful to E and Bravo and Peacock and, well, NBC really. And Alex Baskin, who produced
the show, and Ailey, my showrunrunner and everyone who worked on the show because
My goal was to make it really authentic and everyone who worked on this show
made that possible and
It was my favorite show to film as chaotic as this week was I loved it and I midway through tour
I was like, I'll never fucking do this again. There's no way I would love to do it again. I'm ready. Let's do it again
Let's go on another podcast tour. Let's do way. I would love to do it again. I'm ready. Let's do it again.
Let's go on another podcast tour. Let's do a season two. You know, I just know where I was
at coming off of this tour. I was on such a fucking high because I accomplished my biggest fear,
which was public speaking. I've told you guys, and oh god that felt good. It
really felt good. I walked away from this tour thinking if I can do this I can do
fucking anything and I feel like I've actually kind of maintained that. And I
love then that the very last scene is with two of my three kids. Jackson was
at a friend's house this day. I was like, Mosi you're gonna miss, you're not gonna
be in the final scene. He's like, whatever. But I love that
they ended with the kids and Camden taught, well both of them, but Camden talking into the camera.
It's genius. That's called breaking the fourth wall in the production world where you, you know,
like acknowledge the cameras and acknowledge what's going on. And I just, I love those moments
because it doesn't get more real than that. And yeah, so thank
you guys for watching the show. Thank you for listening to the podcast and just
for being on this journey with me. I really, you know, after the tour I felt
really humbled and grateful and I feel that again with the show ending and I
don't know. I've just been able to carry those emotions with me and again I'll say it till the day die it's because of you
guys you guys have made my whole fucking career possible I'll never take that
for granted so thank you as always I love you as always okay and then I am
off next week guys so I will see you the following week for Patti Stanger
millionaire matchmaker I am so excited about that one.
Don't forget though, for the next few Thursdays,
we are gonna continue to have bonus episodes
with the actual live podcast shows.
And make sure if you're watching it on Peacock,
the two final shows will are next week, tomorrow.
I don't know guys.
I can't keep it all straight.
I love you though.
I'll see you guys soon.
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