Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - ICYMI: Laguna Beach High School Reunion

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

Let's revisit one of my favorite Let's Be Honest episodes to date while I prep for my tour. Alex M, Alex H, and Jessica joined me in Nashville last year for a wild girls weekend and to rehash Laguna Beach: The Real Orange County. We dive into what we all regret, what we felt was unfairly portrayed, our favorite memories, and the shenanigans we got into when the cameras weren't rolling.A word from my sponsors:YNAB - Listeners of Let's Be Honest can claim an exclusive three-month trial, with no credit card required at www.YNAB.com/HONESTBon Charge - Go to Boncharge.com/HONEST and use coupon code HONEST to save 15%.Olly - Let's do wellness on your terms, whatever that looks and feels like to you. Fund us at Walmart or Target near you or at OLLY.comCymbiotika - Go to cymbiotika.com/HONEST for 20% off your order + free shipping todayWayfair - Give your home the refresh it needs with Wayfair. Head to Wayfair.com right now.Hiya Health - go to hiyahealth.com/HONEST to receive 50% off your first order. For more Let's Be Honest, follow along at:@kristincavallari on Instagram@kristincavallari and @dearmedia on TikTokLet's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari on YouTubeProduced by Dear Media.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This is Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality TV, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Welcome in to Let's Be Honest. I have a really fun rerun episode for you guys today. Today is the season two of Laguna Beach Girlies. They are in Nashville with me.

This was taped almost a year ago. The girls came to stay with me for the weekend and we had a blast taping this episode at my house. Alex, Alex and Jessica are some of my favorite people on the planet. We just have that special bond that we've had for over 20 years now because you know going to high school together and filming the show together. I love these girls with my life and in honor of me gearing up for my podcast tour I thought this would be a

fun little throwback while I am currently busy planning everything for the tour. So enjoy this episode with the Laguna Beach girls. Welcome in to Let's Be Honest. I'm your host, Kristin Cavallari, and what a fun episode today. It's a Laguna Beach high school reunion, essentially, at my house. We have Jessica, Huussie and Alex.

So excited to have you guys here. So we just had a bit of a wild weekend, I would say. We were in Nashville, just had to stay downtown for a couple of days. So you guys have never been to Nashville, right? Never. And I, you obviously can tell by my lovely raspy voice that this is, was a good weekend.

It was a good time. It was a good time. It was a good time. So figured the girls were coming in town. We're gonna have to do it right. So we stayed downtown the last two nights and we really did it up right. So fun. We did.

What was your guys' favorite part? Hmm. I think Broadway. Like yesterday doing the day thing on Broadway was like, that's, I feel like that's like how you do Nashville. Like classic day drinking on Broadway. Bumping around, yeah.

Just like the people watching, so good. And the music. Yeah, it's so fun. And it just gets better as the drinks roll in. It's weird how that works. Things just get better and better with each drink. Okay, so we wanted to give you guys a little insight into Laguna Beach, the show.

And obviously we had the Back to the Beach podcast you guys all came on, which was really fun. But I felt like it would be even more fun to have the gals together to really just pull back the curtain and just go for it. Let's do it. We were just recapping a little bit, just talking about high school shit.

And we're like, God, some of this stuff we used to do is like just insane. But it was so much fun. It was so much fun. Like when people say that, like they don't like their high school moments, like I feel sad for them because I feel like we had so much fun. We really did it right. We picked it up. We picked it up. We picked it up in high school. We are still talking about it 20 years later. We haven't been able to move on from it. Still following us. It's still everywhere we go. Wait, do you guys, our 20-year high school reunion is literally coming up. Oh, I forgot.

That's crazy. In like a year. Yes. From like right now. It really dates us. Wow. How did that happen? It was, it blows my mind, honestly.

Did you guys go to the den? Uh-huh. You went, right? No, because I had just had Sailor. Like four or five days honestly. Did you guys go to the den? No, because I had just had sailor like four or five days before. Right. Did you go? No, I was pregnant. I'm sorry.

Like not. No, I went. How was it? Yeah, tell us about it Jess. It was so good. Will the 20 year be better? Do you think? So much better.

Yeah, we should all try to really go to 20 year. I'm counting down. I can't wait. Oh, I've been living for this for 20 years. Yeah, yeah, we should all try to really go to 20 or if there is one. I'm counting down. I can't wait. I've been living for this for 20 years. Yeah, right. It's finally almost here. It will be fun. It'll be so fun.

Who's planning it? I don't know. Someone, it's like someone's in charge of it. The class. Is it the valedictorian? Like the class president. What's it called? Vala Vala Victorian.

But I think Emily planned the tenure. Okay, so I wonder if she also plans the 20. I don't know. She'll have to find that. But I think Emily planned the 10-year. Okay. So I wonder if she also plans the 20. I don't know. She'll have to find that out. I think it'll happen. There's no way they wouldn't. Yeah.

Someone's got to be. Well, if not, I'll do it. Great. Perfect. We're doing it now. This is it right here. Well, and we got to see Jason yesterday. He came in and visited us on Broadway, which was really fun.

Has he been on the podcast yet? So he was on the Back to the Beach podcast. Okay. But he is going to come on this one with Dr. Amen to talk about brain health. Oh, good. Yeah, yeah, so that'll be really good. At one point I told him to stop over today, but I don't know, maybe got a little sidetracked.

Yeah, yeah. We're a little tired. A little slow. A little tired today. So when you guys look back on Laguna Beach, on the show specifically, what are your overall feelings of it? Cringe.

Really? No, I mean, it was fun. Yeah, but there's definitely moments. Like does anyone want to be filmed at 15, acted in a fool? We're 17. We're 17. I was 15. Were you? No, we were juniors.

I graduated at 17. No, it was soft. Wait, how old are you? No, we were juniors. We were juniors. But I think it started filming before I turned 16. I think. I graduated at 17. No, it was off. Wait, how old are you? No, it was June year. We were June year 16.

But I think it started filming before I turned 16. I think. Well, how old are you right now? 36. Oh, so you are, you're younger, so that's possible. I don't know. Maybe I was 16 or like, you were probably 16 or whatever.

Yeah, that's crazy. I didn't realize that you were younger like that. Yeah, I didn't know you graduated at 17. That's wild. I know. I skipped a grade, I'm so deleterious. were younger like that. Yeah. I didn't know you graduated at 17. That's wild. I know. I skipped a grade, I'm so dumb. Look at you go. Really?

Thank God, cause I got you on the show. What do you guys think when you look back on it? I love it. I mean, obviously there's moments that are like awkward and you're like, I can't believe that's out there forever at our young age, but it's like, look at us now. We're still like embracing the experience. So I had like the best, like one liners.

Like you were so funny. You and Talyn both like, yeah, just like the things that would come out of your mouth. Like now as an adult, I'm like, I was like so witty. I know. So funny. Like wherever you're saying the dumbest shit imaginable on, you're hilarious. I feel like I was like fortunate in a way.

Like I didn't have a big storyline. Like that was your guys' like place to be. So I was like a fill in. So I was just there. Like I like you guys had so much more weight to carry. You were the comedic relief. Yeah. Yeah.

Like the friend like Jessica, Jason's telling you. And you still are to this day. So rude. Great lines. Yeah. Great. Great one liners. Yeah.

That's hilarious. What about you? I mean, I feel like it's a mixed bag of emotions. It's like, I'm so grateful. And then like, I'm haunted by like, you know, like, obviously like little moments or a big moment. But it's overall like wonderful. I feel like if like people ask us, would you do it again? Do you regret it? And every single or a big moment, but it's overall wonderful. I feel like if people ask us, would you do it again? Do you regret it? And every single one of us say, don't regret it.

We would totally do it again. So while it's cringy in certain times, it's like, you learned a lot. Totally. There's something really sweet about the show because we're so bombarded with reality shows now that because it was that first of its kind movement like that will never happen again and like it was very much real in the sense of like yeah we had to

like have set up times to go talk but like we like there was nothing to know what we were doing yeah like yeah we're gonna talk about that person. There was no forward thinking of like, what our future would be after. So like we weren't motivated by what was gonna come. Right, where now people go on a reality show specifically to like create a career out of it, where that was never a thing.

We had no one to look to for that. We didn't even have like social media. Like now these people go on shows and they're like, now influencer or whatever. We didn't have any of that. Which honestly now these people go on shows and they're like, now I'm an influencer or whatever. Like we didn't have any of that. Which honestly, thank God, because I would have been even a bigger train wreck if it were social media. There's no one could record me like doing appearances

at 18. I don't even like, I have locked that out of my memory forever. Well, just like zero accountability. Like we were just out in the wild thinking we're like. Hot shit. Yeah. We were, we were, we were, we were. I feel like, I mean, we took advantage of it in the best way at that time, but looking back, you're like, someone could have been there along the way to be like, okay, you gotta like refocus or do this. But it's like, but we wouldn't have,

we wouldn't have even if someone just said that. No, that's true. Cause when you're that age, you're like, I'm going to do what I want. You're living it. It was like going from high school to like a college experience and now you're- The college of Hollywood. Yeah, there you go. It was a great time. College, college. College, college.

That was my college experience. Hollywood. What's like the one thing that just stands out in everyone's head of like, God damn it, that was like the worst thing I could have done. Like what's one moment for everybody overall? I mean, we can all look at me for that one. And my definitely was the combo and Jessica situation.

When you guys got in a fight. I just feel like it's now having kids too. Like, oh, like my heart and my gut is like, I just would never want anyone to talk that way or be. But again, it's high school and you do catty things and you're girls, but like to have that like live forever. And then not only that, but I like loved Jessica too. It was like, we weren't like best friends, like senior year, but like we definitely were friends

in some moments. So listen, we've been sharing a bed all weekend. Okay. Like we're great. You know, like things are fine. Yeah. Like we've been fine since that happened. We were fine. Yeah. After the show aired, we were like, you're like, we were still be great. We were still great friends. But it's just on the opposite side, like that's an embarrassing moment for me to like,

not standing up for myself and being like, you know, like that doesn't. Yeah. I don't look good either. You know, right. So I get it. Like you. And I feel like that was like, like, aggressor technically. So you're like, I'm not trying to take away that, like, you know, right. So I get it. Like you and I feel like that was like the aggressor technically. So you're like, I'm not trying to take away that, like, you know, bad moment from you either. But it's like, you know, I don't think either one of us know shined in that. It wasn't a shiny moment.

No, it was really shine on that show ever. Yeah. I don't think I had one shiny. Yeah. Were there any? I don't think so. I said, maybe Trey, because they were always showing him in a good light. Like, that's nice. Yeah. Why do you love him so much? Nice. You're such a good guy.

I love that for him. Yeah, that's really nice. Oh, nice for him. Yeah. What about you, Housie? Again, like, I feel like I like I was like, OK. But like some of like the Fiesta party, like so fun, like not a very shiny moment, but just the fact that we were like consuming and that was out there like kind of gnarly.

Yeah. I think it like fully showed me like pouring a margarita. You know what it was? It was the margarita mix. They couldn't actually show the alcohol, but they showed you pouring the mix and like, oh, what are they doing here? I wonder what that is.

And then we're being hammered. After school on like a Friday, I know. But I mean, it's, I don't know. That could have been worse for sure. I mean, we definitely, we were just talking about this whole weekend. Like we got after it in Laguna. And I think a little bit differently than other schools. Like Laguna, we grew up quickly.

We had access to a lot of things. It's obviously a wealthy community. I think in really wealthy communities, parents kind of like look the other way. And we got into a lot of things. It's obviously a wealthy community. I think in really wealthy communities, parents kind of like look the other way. And we got into a lot of trouble. Like that was a normal Friday. Totally, that was a normal thing to do. It wasn't like we just did that out of the blue.

It's like the partying was just like that in Laguna. That's what we did. It was like also a very hippie community. So I feel like that also played like a big role versus like some of the other towns next to where it's like, parents are very much like, like, you know, kind of involved, like knew what we were doing and like, it was OK. Like, that's true.

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Like my mom's gone or something. I'm like something weird like that. And I'm like, that didn't even happen. Like that's not even true. And my mom wasn't gone. And I was like, that like at 16, like that seems like very, that was like very risky to me. Well, that is kind of pushing the boundary. You know what I mean? I was very, that was like very risky to me. Like that was the boundary. You know what I mean? I was like, that was kind of gross.

So did they get that with wild lines where you would literally just say audio lines? Yeah, I probably was like telling you like, oh yeah, my mom's not home right now. Like whatever, you know, something like that. Were they taking it from another scene and splicing it in? You don't see, oh, they shot to my feet and had me saying that.

Like, of course I wasn't saying that because they would have showed my face. So I always said when I came out, if you don't actually see the words coming out of my mouth, I didn't say it there. Yep, and if you go back and really listen, like you can tell the volume is different. Well, the editing in general,

like Talyn would have short hair and then long hair. Or like I was like 10 pounds heavier in one scene and the next scene, I was like back to being like thinner again. It's like, it was, I feel like for me, like that, I think our storyline with Jason really did me dirty. Like, like I was really stealing her boyfriend out. Like especially the winter formal.

Oh yeah. They were not together. Wait, remind me what happened at winter formal. No, we were still together. No, you guys had gotten back together. I had asked him before and he said yes. Yeah, but you had asked him like long, long time. Yes, and then you guys had got together.

And I was like, that's fine, I'll go with Jake. I don't want to babysit him anyway. Remember, I was like, enjoy. I actually think we might have filmed a scene where like I did ask like, hey Jess, called you. Hey, like I'm totally fine going with Jake or whoever it was. Like, so you and Jason can go together. And you're like, no, it's totally cool. And I was like, Jason, go with Jessica. And he's like, it's fine. Like we're all going to be together.

We're literally all in the same limo together. So you know, it like wasn't a, yeah. So I feel like the, I feel that was unfair on you. Cause that's not, that's not how I feel. Like it really made me look like I was like the aggressor and like really trying to steal Jason away from Jessica, which was like just time pieces edited when there was never a cheat. Like he never cheated on Jessica. What is it?

Yeah, never cheated on Jessica with you. Yeah. That was never the reason why they broke up or the time periods were so far. But don't you feel like with the show like in that, because the producers kind of would like tell you things to like feed you a little bait before something. So it like, even though you know what was actually going on, you can't help but kind of fall into like the situation.

Well, I think me and Jason dating in general. Right. It was like, oh, like, they like took it in rounds for so long. Let's go. Do you guys want to go to dinner? And we're like, like, they like to be friends for so long. Let's let's go. Like, do you guys want to go to dinner? And we're like, that's why it's so awkward in those moments. Like, oh, I like your face.

Like, oh, yeah. It's so funny. Yeah. It's so funny. Or like that was the thing, like we'd be sarcastic about something like fucking around and then they would use it to make it look like it was real. And I remember like we were walking on one side of the street. OK, this is one of my favorites. OK, you Jessica, who's you and I were walking on one side of the street. Okay. This is one of my favorites. Okay.

Jessica, who's, you and I are walking on one side of the street and there's a producer on the other side and they're like, just, you know, look over at her and like, you know, make faces or whatever. And Jessica Reynolds, the producer would like stick her tongue out us and stuff. And we'd be joking around like, what a bitch. And then they made it look like we were talking to you and Taylor. And you guys were on the other side. They did the same thing to us. Like that's how we actually were, which isn't how it was. I also think like,

I don't think people realize like how close we were. I know. Yeah, that's so myth. I know. It was never, like everyone's like, oh, you're friends with like, Who's Ian and Kristen. I was like, we were like best friends.

Yeah. That whole part of the show, but I get it. Cause like it needed to be divided to have storylines I guess. Yeah, no, of course. I mean, you can't have a show without drama, obviously. But like, I remember even watching it back for Back to the Beach being like,

God, was I really not friends with Alex Merle? And it's like, no, I'm falling for their shit. Like, no, we were all good friends. Even Taylor, like I didn't hate Taylor the same way that the show made it seem like. No, no. But it was so hard watching like the VHS tape that came to you and you're like, that's not even what we were talking about.

And we didn't actually say that. And then you'd be like, what the hell? Like you have to relive it and then like call each other. Yes. And be like, what is wrong with you? Yeah. Because we would get the tape like the day before it would air. Yeah.

Probably just to get ready for it. Like I just talked to somebody literally before I came here that was like, well, you had say in like what was shown. I'm like, no, we didn't. We didn't even know what was going to air until the literal day before they gave us 24 hours to like call our grandmas and be like, sorry, grandma, it wasn't it's we're acting, you know, like, I mean, I think about all the time, like we were so young to have our lives manipulated like that. Right. That's the one thing for me where I'm just like, I don't know, that should maybe be illegal in a

lot of ways. Like we were children. I'm not playing the victim card, but like it was really difficult at times. And we also like get paid at all. Like nothing. And then like the producers are like rolling around in their Bentley's like after manipulating a bunch of 16 and 17 year olds, I'm like y'all. By the way, still don't make a fucking penny. Nothing. It's on Netflix and shit. Now that it's back up. Still don't make any.

I'm like, can you pay my anxiety that my kids are now in middle school and are like, my friend watched your show, mom. I'm like, oh no. You know, like, I'm like, how does some royalties? You know, I'm like, good night. Throw us a bow. So that always irritated me too. I'm like, y'all arealties? You know, I'm like, good night. So that always irritated me too.

I'm like, y'all are like causing like a lot of stress, you know, and then, and we didn't really, I mean, we're all fine and everything's great, but I'm just like, we got very taken advantage of. And so like, we just didn't know it at the time. You think that's like why we were like, felt separated because they wanted like the three of you to film and then they want me, Taylor and Morgan to film.

So it was like filming wise, like we were never together because they had needed those. But then we were all friends on the back end. But I like, I really thought that I was going to be like the funny girl on the show. I was like, I thought it was so funny. And then I would get the tapes and I like would go white. I'm like, I'm the mean girl. I know what I was like, I was just trying to be myself. That's how you really are. No, I'm just kidding. No, no, no. Maybe I need to self reflection here. But it is interesting because like at that age, I think it's very

rare for like a 17 year old that's like to know who they are. So I remember being like, whoa, am I this way? And if I am, I don't wanna be like that. So I think it actually made me grow up and hopefully become nicer. You know what I mean? I feel like that's the one great benefit is that you're like, I remember watching it,

that is not a great quality, that is not an attractive trait, let's go ahead and change that real quick. You know, so that was kind of nice. Even if it was manipulated in a bit, you're like, okay, well, even if it is, I still don't want to ever act like that. So let's get that under control, you know?

So that's kind of nice. I had a lot of those moments. Oh, same. Oh God, we're really like that, huh? Yeah. Okay, without the show, just high school in general, what, if you could go back and relive any day? What would it be?

Oh, God, a day. Or like a little time period in high school, because, I mean, we had a lot of fun. There were so many highlights. Like on or off camera. I could say or either one. If it was an on camera moment, too, that's fine. But like for me, I feel like we've been like reminiscing, like before Laguna started filming, like because that's when we we met Alex met you, which I saw a known story.

Yeah, like, you know, sorry, freshman year, the middle of freshman year. Yeah. It was like the summers. Right. No, because it was Drivers Ed. It was like the second semester of freshman year. You came to Laguna sophomore year. Right.

So it was like those moments before when we were first getting to know you and you were becoming involved like Alex was like, oh oh my gosh I met this like really fun girl at driver's ed and we all became friends and then like ended up having like boyfriends that were kind of friends like that period of time but they also could drive so they could give us rides every winter. I just had a memory pop in my head sorry Jess I don't think you were in this one but do you guys remember you would all get dressed at my my house and we'd wear like these big old heels. Like the platform.

So I lived at like top of the world, which like people don't know it's like, but like the canyon is like right beneath you. So we would, do you remember we'd walk the fire trail? We'd like party up there. And our little heels were like click, click, click, click, click. And it was like full going out outfits. We'd sneak out and it was pitch black dark on a mile long canyon road to go meet up with God knows who.

You could get to the other valley or whatever where all the other houses were, so it'd be a party over yonder. We'd go hike a mile. I just remember the clickety clack our heels going down like this steep... I mean, the shit we used to do. Or like we were talking last night, like our freshman year, there was another girl, Bailey, who was staying out with us too. And we'd be like, Dad, I'm spending the night at Bailey's.

Dad, I'm spending the night at Alex's. You know, and then there were sometimes would be like, now where do we go? Where do we go? At like 4 a.m. We're like, wait, now what? Yeah, yeah. I think I slept in my car a couple times. Yeah, right, right. We really couldn't go home. None of us could go to either house at like

two in the morning. We didn't think about that. No, we didn't think about that. No, yeah, we're like, oh well. We just wanted to make sure we could stay out late. And I was like, oh no. And then we'd be like, okay, what's the earliest we could go to someone's house? You know, that's like realistic.

And not have it look bad. And like walk in the door with like two hours of sleep. We'd be like, oh, what's the earliest we could go to someone's house? You know, that's like realistic. Not have it look bad. We'd like walk in the door with like two hours of sleep. We'd be like, oh my god. Kristen like didn't have pajamas. We had to like, yeah, like have a whole story behind it. Like, oh, they had to go somewhere. Phone line. So like, like, which was like so dumb of my parents.

I'm like, that was such a big deal. I'd be like, hey, reach the murals. But it was like my line. So we'd give it all to the parents. Oh my gosh. She loves that. We had like a whole system. They're like, leave your parents' number.

I'm like, number. Our poor kids aren't gonna get away with anything. Because we know, but be like this day and age, it's like we were like the last people that could wrap them. We can like do it all. Yeah, it's so different. But do you feel,

because like my mom has always said, but watch, there'll be one step ahead of you. Like, do you feel like it's different though, like now with like social media? So even like you can put trackers on phones. Yeah, I've heard too. There's ways for them to like turn it off. And they can increase their bubble. Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, I don't know how. So I'm gonna figure all that out. But your shit out. So we're like, oh,

they can't get anything past us. Yeah, no, they will. They'll just be way more sneaky and not as dumb as being like, literally like I've heard it all talk. And they're like, parents know how to do this. So you have to do that. And I hide this and that app. You're like sneaking out of my house because my my room was on like the main level and there was no screen or anything on it. So we were just open it up.

We would. Yeah. Yeah. I remember to one time, like sneaking back in. I stepped on the blow dryer. So it starts going on more like make the frantic rumbling. And we've like got it off, got settled, jumped in bed and your dad actually came in to like check. And timing wise, we like had made it. Like we all were in bed just like.

Holy shit, I remember that. Well, I definitely got taken home by the cops a few times after I snuck out. My dad's like, wait, what? I thought you were sleeping. So cops would get called. Like I remember getting put in a paddy wagon. They were underage. For how like wild we were like there was a lot of coughs out like.

I know. Looking for. But I mean they like rightfully so. All the kids party there all the time. Right. We would like they would like throw keg parties in the canyon. Yeah. We're like we would like go through the clickety clack stores. We'd go through

the bushes and rocks and boulders. There's probably a pack of coyotes over there. We're like, oh, let's get a beer. There was no place. If there was no place, that's where we would go. That's where we would go. I had a party one time. I had a Halloween party. You guys remember this? I think my dad was on his honeymoon or something. And raging party, I was a nurse, like one of those little slutty nurses. You know what I mean? Yes, yes. I cleaned that house fucking spotless.

I was like, my dad will never know. He found one beer can underneath the couch and he was like, you had a party. I was like, damn it, I'm so sorry. One beer can. Although now that I'm an adult, I'm like, he probably just said that honestly. And then I just caved, you know, I was like, shit,

you're right, I'm sorry. I had some hands over. Like that's what I would do as a parent to try to catch my kids. Yeah. Be like, I'm going to trap them. Exactly. Like the neighbor told me that, you know, get some people over. Oh, I did it.

I'm sorry. Who's the damn neighbors? Good thing I don't have any neighbors. Or no, not a good thing. I can't use them with my kids. I'm like, the neighbor. The neighbor. not a good thing. I can't use them with my kids. I'm with the neighbor. The neighbor. They're on their way.

They're miles away. They told me they saw a lot of cars coming in. Oh my God. Or like, I remember I would like take out my mom's car before we could drive. But then, do you remember this? Do you remember when your mom lived in CDM? Yeah. And you took out her car.

Oh yeah. I remember. Do you remember when I crashed? Yes. It was like a Mercedes, right? Yeah. I was in the car with you. Okay.

It was like, beep, beep, beep, beep. Crash. Oh, no. This is like forever going to haunt me. But like, so we go to pick up Bailey and Housie. And my mom was out of town. It was like her brand new X5. Oh, no.

Don't have my license. I forgot about this story. That was so scary. Go to Pelican, like Newport Coast. And Michaela was with us. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, this is the house. And I like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, to Pelican, Newport Coast, and Michaela was with us. And I was like, yeah, this is the house. And I like thought it wasn't. I was like, haha, wrong house, Michaela.

That's the wrong house. Like make the friend go find you or tricking them. No, I was like, yeah, that's the house, Michaela. I was like, no, it's not. I was like, I'm going to reverse because it's the wrong house. And I like, my karma, bam, like right into like some tiny car. And I panicked and I tried to go back into drive still in reverse. Do it again.

No. Yeah. Slowly hit it again. The alarm goes off. Bailey runs out. Oh God. Sorry. No.

No. Keep going. Michaela, they run in the car and like in the gated community, they always write down your license plate. So I was like, oh no. Someone came out of their house to like see what was going on. And we just, I think we just left. I was driving. I was 15.

I mean, you would have been fucked. What did you say? I wasn't the driver. I don't think it wasn't like a crash crash, but it was enough to like, but you know, you're like frantic. So it's like, try to go drive and your finger drive, you reverse. And we look at my mom's car, not a, not a fucking scratch. I was like, Oh, like, my mom was so scary in high school. Like my dad was cool, but my mom was scary. And I was like, okay, they got back home. No one talked about it. No one called about the license.

They thought it was in the clear. Well, the fucking neighbor. No, damn neighbors, man. And I like, oh my God, I think I was granted for the summer. You must have been. Yeah. It was. Was it your mom that started writing her mileage down on her car? Yes.

Oh, wait, that's a good idea. Oh, yeah. To make sure. Yes. That is funny. Because she was going back and forth. Oh my God. That's actually genius. Yeah, that is a really good idea. Or like the parents that will put water in the vodka bottles and stuff.

I remember measuring. Measure the bottle. Yeah. We used to steal wine from my dad all the time. And my dad one time sat me down and he was like, you see this bottle? This is a $200 bottle. You see this one? $150.

He's like, you take another fucking bottle, you're dead. I was like, oh shit! Like it wasn't even that good. He's like, you take another bottle, you're dead. I was like, oh yeah. I'm sorry. You're like, it wasn't even that good. He's like, shit wine anyways. Oh my God, you're probably like pounding it. Like how they have the bottle. Like you're not drinking wine to sip it

for its flavor at that point. You're just like, cool, boo. So insane. We're lucky to be alive, putting on some of the shit we did. But yeah, we stole my brother's car one time too when we were 15. I mean, just like, cause you would lose your license, I think,

if you got caught for that, right? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I don't think you could drive till 18. Is that what it is? Yeah, it was like it was like a like a thing. I don't know why we were so ballsy. We literally thought we could get away with anything. Well, we thought we were so smart.

I have another. Do you remember us driving in? It was us three. Sorry, Jess. I I hope I listen. I was a really good girl. Okay. I went to bed at 830. This was like those like the sophomore, junior year. This was like pre and then everything else. Yeah, that was a junior, senior. Yeah. So like all these moments, but I feel like we were like, were we worse then?

Like it sounds really bad. I think those phases. I would say we were worse before. I think so too. Before we got our license. Yeah, we really got it on really bad. I think they were, I would say we were worse before. I think like freshmen saw before we got our license. Yeah. We really got a lot of like mellowed out by senior year. Like older boyfriends, like freshmen with like senior boyfriends. Like once they all started graduating and you're like,

Oh, I was born. I don't know. I remember senior year. We were just like, fuck all these people. This is so lame. You know? So it was like, it was different. We didn't have like the same motivation to like go out

and get fucked up. Totally. When you're younger and it's like all older people, you're like, oh my God. I got the cool party. Yeah, we were over it at that point. Well, because then you're the senior girls and all of the guys are dating like the freshman girls. Just like we kind of did. Exactly.

So we're like, damn it. Like we're those girls now. I dated Sam, hot Sam, a second semester. No, first, I can't remember. Cause I dated Matt Lion. Oh, in senior year. I think it was senior year. Yeah. Sam, it Sam, second semester. No, I can't remember. Cause I dated Matt liner. I think it was senior year. Sam, it's gotta be first. I think it was this, it was towards the summer.

I think it was towards the summer cause you dated Matt liner during the fall. Cause he was like fully football at that point. Oh, you're right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So then I dated Sam second semester, senior year. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. I went for a senior. Okay. Well you have to edit this out. But he was, he was. When? At prom. Senior year? Yeah. That's like, is that a crossover with Kristen? So I thought it was the first semester. Wait, hold on a second. Hold the fuck up.

I didn't really think about this. You were at my Jeni's house. Who did you have a prom with? Who was your busy? Helen, but I didn't want to be with him because I wanted to be with Sam. He had sex with her. Call Sam right now.

Yeah, get him on the line and then we'll make you're too hot to be mad at him. Sorry. I'm over it, it's fine. No, we were 100% hanging out. We were at Mike Jennings after party. Yeah, because it went into the summer when we moved to LA.

And she like disappeared and I'm like, what is this on you? My little high school heart is crushed. Little sweet Sam's not so sweet. You fucking dick. I'm not going to the 20 year reunion anymore. Well, he lives in New York, so I don't think he's going to. Okay, but edit that out because I feel bad. Can I just bleep her name?

Can I bleep her name? Okay. We can bleep her name. My God, I'm devastated now. Sam scandal. What else? What? My God, I'm devastated now. I know. I'm gonna never go. Sam, scandal. Dang, man. Ugh, what else?

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No, another question that I get asked a lot and I'm curious about you guys is because you filmed reality TV, has it ruined reality TV for you because you understand the workings? I watch all of the Real Housewives. You do? Yeah. My mom's always

like, how can you watch this after like, what you did and you're like analyzing it like, oh, that probably happened. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes I'm like, you're being so fake or you just want camera time or whatever. Yeah. Right. I mean, it's still like just smut, you know. Do you think that's like, maybe it's my perception. I feel like it's obvious to everybody. I think so too. Or maybe it's just, well, nowadays, maybe it's just, it's so over- for sure. Well, there's so much out there. It's like over flooded. Like it's such a thing. But when like when the Hills was out and then there was like the fringe shows after that, I didn't watch it or keep up with it, but it was like a weird like being connected to it. It was like hard to watch it like knowing but like wanting to support it, but also like not like

that was more harder to watch at that point. I couldn't watch The Hills when it was on before it was on. Or before I was on it. Yeah. Because we knew what they were doing so specifically too. Yeah. I mean, I didn't realize how much more like fake it was. Right.

Well, do you remember Perez Hilton used to like call it out and be like, your nails are one color in a scene and then two seconds later they're another color. Like, people started like really Hilton used to like call it out and be like, your nails are one color in a scene and then two seconds later, they're another color. Like people started like really catch on and he would call it out, which I actually kind of loved. So I do feel like that was the beginning of people being like, oh wait, maybe this stuff really isn't real. But I do feel like, well, the difference is again, we went into it innocently in the sense we're like, we're not trying to like get more camera time. It wasn't like, oh, I know if I bring the drama, we were just like doing our thing where now it's like people have a whole agenda going on to reality shows. So I think it's editing. I think it's all the same things that they were doing to

us. Plus people being like, I'm going to bring my A game. Right. They like create their own narrative and put it all out there for that camera time. But I feel like that's like what you have to do now. It is like be that vulnerable. and out there. Because anybody will do it for anything. Anything, yeah. Or otherwise you're off the show. Yeah. And again, like Alex was saying, even though there was like set up times and we kind of like would get like direction, be like, talk about how this person's going to prom with

this person, like prompted. But none of us were like fighting for a storyline, right? Like it was kind of handed to you. But it wasn't like that desperation. Yeah, they had writers. So I feel like they kind of handed to you. But it wasn't like that desperation. Yeah, they had writers. So I feel like they kind of like, you know, like, remember like prom is a good example.

Like they'd be like, OK, talk about prom, you know, like it's coming up and talk about it like it's coming up. They're like, all right, now let's talk about it. Like it just happened. And we're like, OK, but how the fuck are we going to talk about it? Like it just happened. We don't know what the fuck happened. But like looking back now, it's because they already knew what storyline they were gonna go with.

They were trying to, you know? Well, do you really think, I don't know if they ever did this to y'all, but like with me, they would be like, did you hear about blah, blah, blah? Oh, crap. Yeah. Cameras up and it's like a genuine re- I remember that.

I was probably talking with you. Oh my God. And it's like a genuine reaction. You're like- You wouldn't know. So they would tell you that. I think maybe that was the thing we did. That is fucked up. Yeah, and so then you're like,

okay. And then you're talking about that. Cause you're like, like, and it's like a bomb, you know, like it's not something like, Oh, she was holding his hand. Like, you're just like, and so then it makes you look extra. You've got a big reaction. Yeah. So that was where I was like, Whoa, like that should be illegal where they can just like say random shit to you to get a reaction out of you. And especially about stuff that was going on like when cameras weren't up, it's like that's not involved, you know? That's crazy. Do you guys feel like it helped friendships

or and relationships or made it a stressor on both? I think it was, I think now it's helped because we all have like this bond and now that we're older and mature, we like can like laugh about it and rehash it. And it's like, while it was good, it's like, it's still like a little bit of a trauma bond. You know what I mean? And so it's like, we can, here we are almost 20 years later still talking about it because it's like, it was like core thing that happened to us that doesn't happen to everyone else,

you know? But I think in the moment when we didn't realize how manipulated we are and you watch a VHS and you're like, why are you talking about me like that? And you don't realize, I mean, sometimes it was authentic maybe, but like for the most part it really wasn't. And so you're like, oh, yesterday you were my friend but now today you're saying this stuff on camera. It was, I think that made it a little bit harder

on relationships in the moment. But I think now that like hindsight's 20-20, I'm like, I would that made it a little bit harder on relationships in the moment. But I think now that hindsight's 20-20, I would do it all over again just for the relationship that we all have, you know? Yeah, well said, I like that. I feel like our relationship was, I feel like was hard. Yeah, for sure.

Especially because we were so close and then they divided us. So it was like naturally, your voice. Sorry guys. You're crying. Oh. So much. Just brought up so much emotion.

Yeah, no, so I just, I feel like our relationship for sure. Yeah, I think I was guilty to that, like feeding into it more and like letting it drive a wedge between like the dynamic the three of us had, but it's like you're so young and you're getting fed that. Like you start to believe that's like, oh no, we're supposed to be like versus them. You know, when it wasn't like if the cameras weren't there, it wouldn't have been a thing. Yeah, totally.

And even like you said the Taylor thing. It's like you and Tay didn't like ever hate each other. No, you guys were never like really close, but there was never really an issue until all of that. Until MTV. And it's like, oh, and Talon, like throw him into the mix. Yeah. There was definitely a separation in groups.

For sure. Versus this all being like one. Yeah. And do you feel like, maybe it was just me, but like towards the end where it's like, they'd have you do wild lines and you're like, I already know what this is going to be. Oh, I know.

What option do I have here right now? Like, let's just get this over with. Like there's no point in fighting over. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, oh, you want me to say that? Like, okay, fine. You know, like, just like let me, you know? That was like your storyline. That's right though.

We would like go after, we'd be like drive to LA to like the sound studio. And like, they would give you a little script to be like, okay, say this and say it that way. Yeah, they would even do it on set though too. Like they'd have us go in the mini van and just record lines. And then they could splice it in wherever they too. Like they'd have us go in the minivan and just record lines. Yeah. And then they could splice it in wherever they wanted.

You know what I realized was, cause you know at the time, obviously at that age, like you make everything about you. And I was like, I was so edited and oh my God, and I look so bad and blah, blah, blah. Doing the Back to the Beach podcast, I was like, oh, everyone was edited just as much. We were all in the same boat.

I was over here the whole time like, it was just me, they fucked with me. No, they fucked with all of us. They all had, you know, there were like specific characters that they wanted us to play and we weren't allowed to like get outside of that box, I feel like. Right. Like I was very much like a pick me girl, you know? I feel like, like that's like the-

Yeah, that's today's. Right now. Yep. And it's like behind the scenes, like what nobody else saw. But don't you feel like... Not so much, you know what I mean? So it's just very like... I know.

It is. For you, because you guys again had like storylines, like you would also kind of fall into your role that you already knew was like being projected and put out there. I don't know if I did that on purpose or if that's just actually like who I was. I truly don't, you know what I mean? Cause I'm like, I don't think I knew

what they wanted from me. I think I was just like, please like me. Well, what about difference between season one, season two? Like season two, do you think you were like, okay, like I know my role. But season one, I was just like a friend of. 100%. You know, like I was just your friend

and like I was dating Dieter, but that just like a friend of. 100% You know? Like I was just your friend and like I was dating Dieter, but that was like a little side shoot. Like that was not main story line material. So I didn't know. Like remember when season two started too, like we didn't even know who was a main character or anything until like deep into filming until we went to do the promo shoots. And they're like, if you're here for one day, you're a friend of.

And if you're here for two days, you're a main character. I forgot about that. And that's how we found out if you were even a main character at all. Like I never signed a contract or anything. I signed a little release for it. Oh, that's so interesting. I forgot about that.

Remember how fun. Do you guys remember how fun that photo shoot was? Oh my God, it was at the house on the beach. On the beach. With the pool, yeah. That was fun. The montage park right there. But like that's the thing, like, okay, you get the whole cast together.

We're having the time of our freaking life, having so much fun. But then on the show, it's like we all hate each other, you know, just goes to show you the difference. Yeah, but that was that was a lot of fun. There were a lot of really fun memories. And I think like having prom and high school graduation filmed like that is pretty special, I have to say. There's so many good moments.

Yeah, yeah. Funny moments, some dumb moments, you know? All good. But yeah, it's fun. I know it's wild that we all have that experience, that bond. And I love that 20 years later, you guys are in Nashville, we just had so much fun.

Right? It's just, it makes me so happy. Like no time has happy. Yeah. Like I feel like the last time like we all obviously hung out was for the Uncommon James shoot. And it's like, we all get back together and it's like, okay, right back where we started. And that was two years ago, the Uncommon James shoot, right?

Almost a year and a half. Yeah. Yeah. It was January, right? It was January. And before that we hadn't seen each other in a minute though. So. Long time, like all of us together too. Yeah. Yeah. Because it was January, right? It was January. And before that, we hadn't seen each other in a minute though. Long time. Like all of us together too.

Yeah. All of us together. That was like such a blessing to do that because it like, I think we all like reconnected when we wouldn't have, I don't think necessarily. That was so much fun. But the crew too, like us and then Talyn and Jason, Steven, like that was like such a natural group of people to have together. Yeah. You know, like we actually are, like we're like such a natural group of people to have together. You know, like we actually are, we're like, we're so close.

Yeah. So it's like the people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a special bond. Like, not just for reality TV, but growing up in a small town, small high school, we all have like even people that weren't on the show.

Very special bond. I agree, completely. Yeah, there's something really special about Laguna Beach for sure. Well, I'll see you guys at the reunion. Yeah. Yeah. I'm counting down the days.

I say we four planet. Okay, but, and by the way, no, we're not doing that. No. It'd be so fun though. Okay, but hold on, we should get like our little crew and do dinner before and then go. Oh yeah, yeah. Like, let's all go together. Yeah. That's a good though. Okay, but hold on. We should get like our little crew and do dinner before and then go, like let's all go together. That's a good idea. That's a very good idea.

But let's make sure someone is planning it. I think so. No, someone will step up. Has to be. But they gotta do it like now. Like my sister went to hers a year ago and like it was like hyped up for a year. So I know that like Stephen and Lauren's class

is gonna be in September. Like they're planning it. It's coming up. So are they not doing it? Like, so when I went to tenure, it was like over Thanksgiving weekend. That's why I went. Cause I was like visiting my grandparents.

So it sounds, I mean, maybe every year is different, but it sounds like 2004 is, is having the reunion this September. Okay. So I don't know if we'll do our September or Thanksgiving or whatever, but I'm available. Do you know where they're having it? this September. Okay. So I don't know if we'll do our September, or whatever, but I'm available. Do you know where they're having it? I have no idea.

Oh my God. No, no, like Stephen's reunion. Stephen, yeah. For 2004. 2004, so we're in 2005. Oh, we're there having it. I don't know actually. Like we had ours at the tenure

at the women's club or something like that. We should go crash the 04 reunion. Oh my gosh, could you reunion. Camera's up. Right last. You don't belong here. They would be so mad. I wouldn't want to. You guys have your own party.

Our class is better. Actually, we don't want to go to that one. Just kidding. The lamest people on the planet. On that note, thanks for joining us, guys. Yay, wrap it up. No, our class is like, we were, famous people on the planet. On that note, thanks for joining us guys. Yay, wrap it up now. Our class is like, we were, I mean, we had a fun.

We were the best. We had a fun class. Like it was. Guys and girls, we were the best class. I think so. Stand by. Yep. Yep.

Well, and I, even my sister who is two years younger was like, it started going downhill after y'all. Sorry guys. Sorry we had to leave. Yeah. And so I'm like for her to even say that, like, she's not like, my started going downhill after y'all. Sorry, guys. Sorry we had to leave. Yeah. And so I'm like for her to even say that, like, she's not like my class was great. She's like, it's even worse after her class. Like, who knows what it's like even now. Every year just gets worse and worse. Yeah.

I'm like, sorry. We released the bar hard. Yeah. We brought all the good vibes. Oh my God. Thank you guys so much for coming and doing this. Thank you. Thanks for having us. Now we're going to go make a nice steak dinner. So we'll fun. Thank you. Thanks for having us. Okay, now we're gonna go make a nice steak dinner, so we'll see you guys later.

Thanks for listening. Yay. ["All The Power"]