Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - ICYMI: The Sweet Side of Bobby Flay

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

Let's revisit one of my favorite episodes featuring the one and only Bobby Flay! This episode provides a thorough look behind the chef we know and love from television, revealing the chivalrous side of Bobby. He opens up about his dating life, including whether he would ever consider getting married again. We discuss how one word almost ruined our friendship, how he blew it with his dream girl, the incredible relationship he shares with his daughter, and what meal he thinks every girl should prepare the first time she cooks for a guy.  A word from my sponsors:Quince - Get cozy in Quince's high-quality wardrobe essentials. Go to Quince.com/honest for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. LMNT - Get your free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase at drinklmnt.com/HONEST. Cymbiotika - Go to cymbiotika.com/HONEST for 20% off your order + free shipping today Hero Bread - Get 10% off your order at hero.co and use code HONEST at checkout Ritual - Support a balanced gut microbiome with Ritual's Synbiotic+. Get 25% off your first month at Ritual.com/BEHONEST. Happy Squatting.  Shopify - Go to shopify.com/cavallari to upgrade your selling todayFor more Let's Be Honest, follow along at:@kristincavallari on Instagram@kristincavallari and @dearmedia on TikTokLet's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari on YouTubeProduced by Dear Media.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This is Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality TV, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Welcome in to Let's Be Honest. I have a great episode for you today. This is a rerun, but it is one of my favorites. This episode is with Bobby Flay, who everybody knows and loves and for good reason. He has become a near and dear friend of mine and we just had a great time taping this episode. So I am currently busy on the road

and I hope you enjoy this episode if you have not heard it before and if you have, enjoy it again, because it's a good one. Bobby Flay, welcome to Let's Be Honest. How are you? I'm so glad to be here. You know, I love being in your company.

Oh, you're sweet. No, I do. That's very nice. I really do. We had dinner in Nashville a few months ago and I had the best, most fun time. It was fun. Actually, we're gonna get to that

because you said some of the funniest dating stories that I've ever heard that night. And I was gonna say, having a couple drinks with you at dinner is very fun. I mean, I was laughing my ass off. Well, I mean. You're not liquored up today, so we'll see what we can get out of you.

I am not liquored up today, but what do you have? Any tequila? I can get you something, yeah. I knew I was gonna like the dinner that we had. As soon as you sat down, you were like, yeah, what kind of tequila do you guys have? I was like, okay. Yeah, boom. Game over from there.

I don't know though, I'm kind of turning on tequila. You are? I know, I don't know what's going on. I think, honestly, I'm turning on alcohol in general. Okay. I'm just like going through a phase. You know, I don't blame you. I mean, it's one of the things that you notice right away

when you stop drinking a little bit, like things are just clearer. You feel so much, I sleep so much better too. The sleep is really the key. That's huge, cause I sleep like shit if I even have one drink. Okay, but I wanna, let's go back because it's pub day for you. You have a new book out.

So congratulations, book 18. You just saw- This is my 18th book. It's called Bobby Flay, Chapter One. I mean, that's insane day for you. You have a new book out. So congratulations. Book 18. You just saw. This is my 18th book. It's called Bobby Flay, Chapter One. I mean, that's insane. 18 books. So this is a, it's a cookbook, but it's also a coffee table book. I mean, it's definitely a coffee table book.

This is the, I would say the most, this is the nicest book I've done. Okay. You know, so it, like, you know, the thing that I really was, one of the things I was really happy about was like, when I took the first book out, when they sent it to me from the publisher,

I was like, is it heavy enough? Like I wanted to have that heft to it. And I don't have any books like this. And it's a hundred recipes from my career that I chose, and I updated them for today. And every single recipe has a full page color picture. So it's like, it's definitely a gift. It's a coffee table book picture. So it's like- Amazing. It's definitely a gift.

It's a coffee table book. It's definitely a collector's item. And it is beautiful. What made you want to do this instead of just a traditional cookbook? I've always wanted, listen, I'm a chef by trade and you know, if you're a chef, if you're somebody who loves to cook like me and you have an opportunity to write books like this, you always want that thing that is like the big book. It's sort of like the resume of your career.

And so, I just feel like I'm just getting started in my career, even though I've been doing it for a long time and I have lots of other things to do and I'm doing them now, but I didn't wanna leave what I've done behind quite yet. And so I brought this book to life. Amazing. Thank you for asking. Yeah, no, and it's, I mean, you have it.

I think it's worth holding up and showing. I wanted, oh, where's the camera? Oh, hi. Oh, there. Here you go. It is beautiful. But I do want to tell you something. This is the very first book that I've signed.

I'm honored. It's got your name in it right here. Look at that. What did you say? I just said, I kept it simple. Classic. Yes, exactly. Classic guy. But how do you have time to do everything?

Because you are busy. This is your 18th book. 18th book. Classic. Yes, exactly. Classic guy. But how do you have time to do everything? Because you are busy. This is your 18th book. 18th book. You have multiple TV shows. You're a dad. You're constantly cranking out content for social media. I mean, you're opening multiple restaurants still. How do you, or I guess the better question is,

what motivates you to keep doing it all? What gets you out of bed in the morning? I think it's, you know, I dropped out of high school when I was like 16 or 17 years old, 10th grade I was done. And I won't bore you with all the details. That's another podcast. I don't know, I feel like that is a pretty good story.

Well, I mean, it's just a long story, but you know, basically I could not really learn in school in a traditional way. And I was going to, when I was in high school, they weren't testing kids for every single thing possible. But I definitely had some sort of, or do, had some, have some learning disorder of some sort, or a disability.

And so I did not wanna open an English textbook. Ironically, I have 18 cookbooks, but I didn't wanna open an English textbook and learn. That was not the way I was gonna do it. So I did no work. It wasn't that I was a bad student, I was not a student. I did nothing. And I was hanging out with my friends, I was playing sports, I was a do it, so I did no work. It wasn't that I was a bad student, I was not a student. I did nothing. And I was hanging out with my friends,

I was playing sports, I was a good athlete, but that was all I was interested in. And then when I finally quit high school, I went to work in a restaurant just because I needed a job. And I was like, I was loving it because for the first time I was learning something and I was doing it by using my hands. And I needed a vocational education,

which we don't have enough of in this country. And I'm not gonna get in a soap box about that, but I really believe that. Not every kid learns the same way. I completely agree. Me included. Yeah, I mean, having three kids, I see that just with my own kids.

It's very apparent. They're different. Yeah, very different. So getting back to your question, I do it because I love to cook so much It's the way that I show my adoration to my friends and my family. Mm-hmm I cook for them and I cook all the time. I cook in some way shape or form almost every single day Wow, almost every single day. Do you ever get in a in a slump though? We're just like I you're uninspired. You know, absolutely. I mean it happens to me all the time. It's like it's like writer's block

You know, it's the same thing. It's like, I don't wanna make the same thing over again. But I need inspiration. And so I travel for inspiration. And it could be local travel. It could be like, I'm gonna go to a restaurant in LA tonight and go check out what they're doing cause I'm gonna learn something.

Or it can be like, I'm gonna go to Italy today and spend a week there and just eat and see what's going on. I mean, so it can be anything along those lines. I always get inspired no matter where I am when it comes to cooking. Okay, yeah, I love that. And then out of all of the job titles that you do have, so TV personality, chef, obviously, author,

what is your favorite? Cooking. So just chef. Being a chef. Yeah, okay. In my restaurants, to me, that's the, like when I put my apron on, it's my sort of protector from the world, you know?

It's my shield. Yep. And it's the place that I love to be. I love to inspire people that work with me or alongside of me. And also it's just my happiest place. It's like my days go really quick when I'm in my chef whites and I'm cooking.

I love that. Okay, I wanna shift gears for a minute. Okay, shocking. You ready? Yeah. That's all fine and great, Bobby. But, no, I'm just kidding. Okay, so you've been married three times.

Oh my God. This is let's be honest. I know. Wait, have I? Yes, I have. Right? Yes. Okay, so is marriage off the table completely

or would you do it again? Wow, right to the jugular. We're just gonna really go in here. Okay. Do you want that drink now? No, I'm okay. I'm like starting to sweat a little bit. It's hot in here.

It's all right. Listen, when I called you and said, can I please be in your podcast, I knew what I was getting myself into. Yeah, exactly. I knew who you are. Is it off the table? If you asked me today, I'd say probably yes.

Okay. Because, I don't know. For know, for me it hasn't been the best situation obviously. That said, I don't feel like I need to do it again. Right. I have an amazing daughter who's 28 years old. I'm not having any more kids as far as I know. And I just think like I would be interested in a life partner for sure. Yep. But I don't think it necessarily needs the documentation. I get that. Even doing it one time, I'm sort of like,

what's the point? How do you feel? I mean, similar to you, I'm in no rush. I feel like I would maybe get married again, but it's not something that I have to do. It's, you know, I would, and I would never rush into something ever again. That's for damn sure.

So yeah, we'll see. Okay, but so when you look back, I'm not gonna ask you specifically about your divorces, but when you look back at all three of them, is there one pattern that you notice, even if that pattern is picking the same type of woman, is there something that you've been able to look back on and really learn from and grow from?

No, they were completely different. All three completely different? All three very completely different. All three completely different. All three very completely different. Obviously I find them to be amazing people otherwise I wouldn't have married them of course. But listen, things happen. Two of my marriages were very short and one was a lot longer,

but they were just very, very different and somewhat they were under different circumstances. First time I was really young. Yeah. I almost feel like those ones shouldn't count, you know, if you're like under 25, like let's just call it a wash. Yeah, I know. And I just, so they were all different,

but like I haven't been married now for 10 years. And I actually, I feel more comfortable not being married. And I don't- Oh, interesting. Okay, yeah. Like, I think there's like maybe less pressure. I'm not really sure. I think that once, for me, the thing I notice is, once you sign a document that says you are now together,

there's something that changes. And I think when you try to explain that to people who have never been married before, they don't know what you're talking about. They're like, what's the difference? And I'm like, well, there is a difference, but I can't really put my finger on it. You know what I've said is I'm open to the idea

of telling everyone I'm married, but I can't really put my finger on it. You know what I've said is I'm open to the idea of telling everyone I'm married, but not actually legally being married. Okay. You know what I mean? Sure. Like even having a ceremony, everyone thinking we're married. Get a big ring, have a party. Right, exactly. But not going through with it legally.

Yeah. Just, I don't know. So everyone keeps, not trying is the wrong word, but just so everyone doesn't get too comfortable. Yeah. Maybe is the right thing. You could still leave if you needed to. A lot easier anyways. Easier. Yeah, because obviously when it comes time to end it, it's not that simple.

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Yes. Let's be honest, and People Magazine. Yes, exactly. That's true journalism. Exactly. Are you back on the dating scene? Okay, so this is where I'm really here. I really, I need some advice from you.

Okay, let's go. Because, like, the answer is, I don't know if I'm on the dating scene. I just, I'm, like, honestly, I don't know what to do. I love that answer. Because I'm single. Okay. And so what does that mean?

Do you need to like get back out there right away? Do you need to start dating people? Can you just go out and have fun with friends? Right. Like honestly like to me that that's that's that's my favorite thing to do just because it's it's again there's no pressure. You don't have to say, oh, I'm going out with this person.

I didn't want to tell you that I was going out with this person. It's like, it's just easier. It is easier. And so, but then again, you also do you want to have a relationship that you can build upon. I mean, there's give and take in both parts of it.

But for me, it's like, if I wanted to start dating again, what do I do? I'm not going on the apps. Right, okay, so that was what I was gonna ask you. How are you meeting people? Well... You're completely against the apps, not even Raya. I can't do it.

I know. And I'll tell you why I can't. I'm a very private person with my private life. Other people like to talk about my private life, I don't like to talk about it because the rest of my life is so public because I've been on television basically my entire adult life.

So I like keeping as much as I can my private life to myself. But that said, it seems like there are some people who are interested in what I'm doing in my personal life. I'm not really sure why it's not that exciting. But I do wonder, and so I don't wanna go on the apps because then it becomes a public thing. Somebody's gonna make it public.

And so, but that's how everybody's meeting people these days. It is, I know. And so I guess, you know, I guess the, you know, for me, I guess for me, for me, I'm so old school when it comes to this stuff. My father always taught me to be a gentleman and to do things the right way. And there's a proper process to go about it. And I kind of like that kind of old school way

of thinking and trying to meet somebody. But people aren't used to doing that anymore. I know, it's a different world out there. Yeah. Yeah. Would you ever slide into the DMs or have you ever? I have, but never in a way that would be like, actually, I want to talk to you about this. Okay.

Because you and I had a situation where I was going to Nashville. Oh my God. Okay, yeah. Let's talk about it. Can I tell you? Yes, absolutely. I was going to, I was coming to Nashville literally for one day for a meeting. Yeah.

And I was like, who do I know in Nashville? Okay. So I DM'd you. Yeah. And I was like, and I said to you, now I know what words I use specifically because you reminded me. I said, can I, I'm what words I use specifically because you reminded me. I said, I'm gonna be in Nashville for one night, can I take you to dinner?

And you literally said something to me like, I'm already dating somebody. Yeah, or I think it was like, I was like, I'm over dating right now. I was like burnt out on dating or something. Yeah, so I was just like. No, you said, I've already started seeing somebody. Oh, okay.

And I said, I just wanna to go to dinner with you. I was like foot and mouth. No, no. And then, and then of course they're like, you were like, oh, okay, I get it. And then. And we had the best time. We had the best time.

But what you taught me is something I didn't know. You said the words that you used made me feel that way. You said, when you said, can I take you to dinner? To me, that is a date. Okay. Right? I mean. I didn't think of it that way.

I know. And what I should have said was, what am I supposed to say? Well right now I'm trying to think about it. But also I think there's a fair argument that I shouldn't just assume. I said this to you too. I probably shouldn't have just assumed

that you also wanted to take me on a date. But I think that's fair too. I'm like, everyone just take me out. Calm down. Take it easy. Yeah, relax, Kristen. Yes, exactly. Yeah, so I think there's a combination of that,

but I guess the right thing to do is say, hey, I'm gonna be in Nashville for a day. If you're free, I'd love to go to dinner. Okay. Instead of like take you to dinner, maybe. Really? I don't know. Yeah, I think like the take you to dinner thing

is more where it was like, oh, that seems like a day. Okay. All right. So my bad. No, hey, listen, it worked out. It's all good. We ended up going to dinner.

It was fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But that's the thing I don't get because everything is now through technology. I know. It's like, if I meet somebody, like if somebody says to me, my ex-girlfriend who is the loveliest person in the world,

we were put together by a mutual friend. And I texted her and I said, do you have time for a call? And like, you know, some of the people that like work for me are like in their 30s and they're like, that never happens. Everything is always by text, right? That is a great move though for guys, picking up the phone and calling a girl.

I made it, I literally made an appointment with her on text to have a phone call with her, just so we can get a vibe from each other. Yes, because you get nothing on text. And we talked for like 45 minutes, and then the next thing was like, let's meet. I love that. Yeah, I mean, I think that that's.

That's a great way to gauge if you're gonna have any sort of connection with some or chemistry with someone. Yeah, picking up the phone, that's a great skill to have. No one does that anymore. Okay, so you're not sliding into the DMs or you have once, what's your pickup line if you do that? I don't do that. No, it's no like, it's just.

I don't do that. And again, I think that sometimes it can be misconstrued as to why you're texting, like DMing somebody. Right, exactly. And so, if there's something that I think somebody does that's really cool, I'll just say that. I won't be like, hey, let's get together.

Yeah, right, right. Okay, that's nice. I like that. Okay, so you do have really great dating stories I mean just laughing our asses off and I'm not gonna make you say names if you wanted to we wouldn't hate you for it because it does make the story better. No no no no I mean I can't kiss and tell. I know and I really respect that about you but I did ask you beforehand will you give us just one good dating story? Well I'm gonna to. Well, I'm going to give you a story, and I don't know if it was a dating story or not.

And this is, see like, you want to have me on, so I'll talk about this stuff, but I want to be here because I want advice from you. Okay, alright. I'm okay. I mean, you are a dating expert. I don't know about that. You are. I don't know.

Listen, I listen to your podcast every Tuesday. I know you're the best. I'm like, maybe I'm going to learn You are. I don't know. Listen, I listen to your podcast every Tuesday. I know you're the best. I'm like, maybe I'm gonna learn something today. I love you. Um. I do listen to them. I know you do, you're very sweet.

Anyway, so let me ask your opinion on this. Okay. So, obviously I'm not gonna mention any names. So, a handful of years ago, I had just gotten divorced. I had just gotten separated. I had just gotten separated. And a woman who I was definitely interested in sort of came into my universe one night. And she came to the restaurant, she came to Gato,

and she was with a bunch of her girls, and I cooked dinner for them. And at the end of the night, she's like, sit down, hang out with us, and she's like, we're gonna go to this bar and hotel. Will you join us? And I was like, sure. So we go to the bar and the hotel and we have the best time.

And now it's like two o'clock in the morning. It's the middle of summer. It's a beautiful night out. And there's like lots of people there. And she says to me, let's go for a walk in the city. And I was like, wow. Wow, man. So, see, but see, that's not what I was thinking.

Oh, really? No, because this might be hard for you to believe. I'm really shy when it comes to this stuff. Oh, interesting. I wouldn't see that. Yeah. I'm very, like, I am very shy when it comes to this kind of stuff.

I think that's sweet. And I think it's again I think it has something to do with the fact of my father teaching me to be the gentleman. Yeah, you know yeah, and so I So we go for this walk for like two hours Wow and we and she was staying in New York wasn't living in New York And we get I walk her back to her hotel and there's that moment. Yeah and I walk her back to her hotel and there's that moment. Yeah. That fucking moment.

Okay, here's the moment, okay? This is a girl that was definitely had on my radar, like in a fantasy world, not in a real world. Like I didn't really know her that well. But you knew who she was for a long time. Of course, yes. Yeah, okay. Yes, exactly.

And here's the moment and it's two o'clock in the morning, we've had this lovely evening together. And I just looked at her and I was like, thank you so much, have a great night. And she looked at me like, wow. And she went up, okay. And my girlfriends, like friends who are women, have said to me literally since that day

that they're like, you totally blew it. Like that was- That was your chance. That was your chance. That was your chance. Now, the question is, and the reason why I didn't make any moves is because I had just really kind of, it was like the first night

we had done anything socially together. And I didn't wanna blow it. And I didn't wanna be that guy. Which I love. So I think there's two things. Okay. I think, well did you- You're ready for this. I might let go, well did you- You're ready for this.

I might let go, but did you follow up and ask her out later? I did. And what happened? Okay, well, so the next morning, we had breakfast together. Oh. Well, like we just met, it's like for coffee.

Okay. And then she asked me to, this is so weird. She asked me to go to a party with her the next night and then she literally blew me off. Like ghosted you? Like not, I wouldn't say ghosted. That would be strong, but basically she was just like it didn't happen.

Oh, interesting. So I don't know like, did I? Did you actually blow it in that moment? Yeah. I don't think so because I will say though, the couple of dates that I went on in my, you know, post divorce era in the last Four and a half years the two guys who did not try to kiss me

I did walk away from it being like what the hell right one guy in particular as he was dropping me off Asked me out again, but didn't make a move so I knew he was interested But I also was like but why didn't he try so I think it is confusing for a girl But it's not like I wouldn't, he blew it and not go out with him again. So that's interesting. I don't know, the one that got away perhaps? Well, maybe I just didn't have it.

You blew it at breakfast the next morning. I didn't have it anyway, exactly. Like thank God he didn't try to kiss me. Oh my God. But see, I have to come back every week because this is how I learn. Okay, you can come back as often as you want. Okay.

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that you're just like, ugh. I mean, not really. I've actually had pretty good dating life. I mean, dating life, that's so weird. I actually like going out on dates. Yeah, you seem like you would. I feel like you're good on a date. Well, I like going out on dates

because I like actually making plans and making sure that everything is set. I would never call somebody up and say, what do you wanna do? Oh God, I love you for that so much, the guy. Where do you wanna go? I hate that, that's such a buzzkill. Just make a plan, be a man and make a plan.

Sometimes if it's a first date or something, I'll say, here's what I'm thinking. Are you into this? Because I can arrange for us to go here or do this if you're into that. If not, that's cool too. You can figure out something.

But I think it's important to, I think it's important, I mean, you know, equality everywhere, of course. But I think for like the old school in me guy, I wanna take care of taking care of, you know, making reservations. I love that. That is lost too.

I feel like now guys don't do that anymore. I mean, not really. I think it's this generation. They just don't know how to just take charge and just plan a date. Right. Just do the damn thing. So what is a typical date for you?

Usually we go to lunch or dinner or something like that. Are you picking them up? Okay. I'm into picking people up at their house. Yeah. If that's something that they- In your car or a driver? Well, if I'm going out to dinner, I'm not driving.

Okay, right, yeah. Because I don't- Yeah, if you have a drink or whatever, yeah. Yeah, you don't wanna do that. So definitely not an UberX. A regular UberX. A good car. Yeah, yeah.

No, but like, you know, it's, I think that kind of stuff is really, really important. I think like at some point, if the person you're dating is like, you know, you're being too formal with me, I get it, but I'd rather step it back as opposed to doing the opposite. Yeah, I agree.

I mean, I will tell you like, I've had, I like, as I said, I like dating. So I like the act of like creating the date and having the date and all that, but it was one time where I made all these plans and then the person I went out with was just like, no, we're not going there. I've made different plans

and I hope we're gonna go here and here. I don't know, it's just like, oh. Yeah, you told me this story. No, I mean, God just completely kills it. That's a bummer. Well, I mean, listen, it happens. It happens. It just, it's, and I, and also like if you go,

I think, I feel like if you go on a date and it's not a great date, it's okay. Yeah, right. It's not the end of the world. That's true, yeah. You know, and maybe you become friends with the person. Yeah, that is true. You know?

Has that happened to you a lot? Yeah. I feel like that never happens to me. No, it happens. Like I'm pretty friendly with most of the people that I've- Gone on a date with? Yeah.

That's nice. I would imagine that when you take girls to dinner, obviously all of these chefs and restaurants know who you are Is it just like a bobby? Uh well That's the other thing you don't want to do do that too much Yeah, because it looks like you're showing off and stuff like that. Yeah, so like I like Especially like on a first date. I like a low-key place. Okay, right key place. Yep Like you're not trying to like show all of your strut.

Put everything out on the table like that. I know I agree with you. Okay, I wanna talk about- I can't believe you have notes. I know, I've got, I prepare, I prep this stuff. I take this seriously. Okay, so being back on the dating scene in the last four years, a big thing for girls

is when you are dating someone, what you cook for a man for the first time, okay? Really? Yeah, like anytime I've cooked for a guy for the first time, I'm calling multiple friends, I'm being like, what do you think about this? Should I do this? Because kind of what you're saying,

you wanna make a great meal, but you don't want it to seem like you tried so hard, right? And you go over the top. So what is a foolproof dinner that girls can be making guys for the first time they cook for them? Chicken Milanese. Okay. To me, that's one of my favorite things to eat and to cook. You know it's like it's it's got the best of both worlds. It's got crispiness, it

has healthiness, it's easy to make, you probably won't overcook it hopefully. Yeah. But look it's a breaded chicken cutlet. Yeah. You know you have to know how to do that. You have to saute in the pan. And then during the summer, lots of tomatoes, arugula, some Parmesan cheese, olive oil, vinegar, boom, you're done. So you basically have a salad on top of this crispy chicken dish. And I think that's a beautiful dish. Okay, yum, that's great.

I always go for steak, but I'm into that. You are a very good eater. I am a good eater. I noticed when we went to dinner, we were at Husk. Yeah. Which I know you like to take a lot of people to. I took you to my date spot. Well, this isn't a date, Bobby, but I'm taking you to my date spot.

Well, I gave you a list of places. Yeah, and that was on there. Yeah, you were like, let's go to Husk. I was like, okay. Just one of the dozens. Yeah. And that was on there. Yeah. You're like, let's go to Husk. I was like, okay, just one of the dozens. Right. Exactly. I took probably four or five guys there. Really? Five. Yeah. That's definitely knows you very well there. Here comes another one. Oh no, they put me on that list. You're on that list. I can promise you right now. There's in the kitchen, right? When you open the doors, only the staff can see there's a list of all

Of cases, they're all just crossed exactly all the guys on there Bobby flag gone. You're on that But yeah, husk was great did you like it loved it I mean, it's like an iconic restaurant I think for Nashville and I think their other one their first one was Charleston. I can't remember now Yeah, yeah, yeah, But Huska's very good. But yeah, I like to eat. People don't think that about me. But you eat everything.

I do. Like you, you know, the stereotypical, like, you know, hot girl meal, right? It's like we eat salads, you know, which is crazy. But there was something on the menu that- The fried pig's ears? Yes, exactly. You were like, we're having that right away.

They're my favorite. I was like, okay. I'm an adventurous eater. I'll try just about anything. Yeah. Okay flip side is what do you cook to impress a girl for the first time? It's a do you feel like you have to go all out since you are a chef all out No, okay, like in other words, I when I cook at home the food is incredibly simple Okay, and and it's like I'm not there in my chef coat, like with tweezers, putting on micro greens. I would love to see that. First time you're cooking for a girl.

Just to fuck with her. Yes, actually, you know what? That's a good idea. Oh my God. Please do that and then come back, and we'll talk about it. Yeah, she left right away. Yeah, she got out of there so fast.

No, but it's usually like, I usually make like fresh pasta. I'll make the noodles and like, I'll do something like very seasonal. Nice. So again, like if it's in the middle of summer, like just like a cherry tomato sauce with some garlic, some Parmesan cheese, olive oil,

maybe some Calabrian chilies, really simple things like that. Like, and just, just so like they, like, so, you know, so it's a handcrafted dish, but it's something like that everybody's gonna wanna eat. Yeah, what if the girl doesn't eat gluten? Well, I'll know that. Get out. No, no, I'll make something else.

You're gonna make gluten free. Yeah, exactly. Do you make gluten free pasta? No, I wouldn't make, no, I wouldn't make pasta. You're jumping ship. No, I wouldn't make pasta. I would make something that was not gluten free. Okay, so you're asking before,

hey, do you have any food intolerances? Always. Yeah, okay. I always ask, any food allergies or aversions? Okay, yeah.'re asking before hey, do you have any food intolerances? Oh, yeah, okay. I always ask Yeah, any food allergies or aversions? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I like that interesting Yeah, because listen I we do that in the restaurant Yeah, you have every table is if somebody has a some something that they have to deal with. Yeah, we're used to it Yeah, exactly. Well as busy as you are, do you see yourself slowing down anytime soon? Like what are when are you gonna retire? Do you ever think about it?

What is the next 10 years like for you? Discovery. I mean, this book is called chapter one, and everybody keeps asking me already, like what's chapter two? It's probably gonna be my adventures in Italy, which is the place that I really love more than anything else. I invite you to come to the Malphi Coast with us,

and you were like, I'm going to Greece. Well, shit, so here's the thing about me. Everything is planned out. I'm very scheduled. I can't just do shit last minute. If you want me to go to Italy, you need to book me a few months in advance. I was also trying to get to the Hamptons too.

I know. I know. Listen. We have the best time. I cook three meals a day. That's why I'm coming. Just to eat. We got your cover. Next time, I That's why I'm coming. Okay. Just to eat. Okay, we got your cover.

Next time, I'm coming, I'm coming. We'll do that. We'll book you for next summer now. Great, yeah, exactly. Lock me in now. Exactly, you're locked in. Great. Okay, your room is saved.

I appreciate that. Okay. I'm bringing my guzbin, Justin. Okay, no problem. You're gonna love him. Yeah. Yeah, great, okay. Okay, great.

I don't even know what we were talking about. Oh no, you're the next 10 years for you now. The next 10 years. I mean, probably a lot more of the same. I mean, you know, I've been at the Food Network for yeah 30 something years Yeah, and you've got a great schedule with that. I mean you can knock out a show in a short while I have my own production company. So we we schedule it the way we want to and I'm a I'm a beast when it comes to work. Work ethic to me is the most important thing. Thankfully my daughter has the same thing.

And so I'll do like 26 or 36 episodes of Be Bobby Flay in a row. It's amazing. And then, like in how many weeks? Well we do two a day. Okay. You did the show a bunch of years ago. I did the show a long time ago.

I wanna have you back. I know, I was trying to make it work this fall. Oh that's right, you almost came. Or this spring, I almost came, I know. Yeah, all right, so next season. Again, that was a last minute thing. We gotta book it work this fall. That's right. You almost came. I know yeah Yeah, that was a last-minute thing. You know we got a book it now about me I'm booked through March right now. Are you really I really am well? I've got a little opening here in December But you know when your kids are little because the thing is I have my holiday so 12 Cause the thing is I have my kids. How old are they?

So 12, 10 and almost nine. So, you know, it's like, I can't, my time is limited. But I'm coming to the Hamptons. We'll book you. Great. For sure. Okay. So you're not slowing down anytime soon. Anyway, so Italy is like, not just the Amalfi Coast,

but Italy itself is like very special to me. There was a moment in time where, after I had gotten divorced, I had been divorced for a few years and I was just like, I'm just not feeling, I need to recharge myself. And I literally took my cat and went to Rome for six weeks. And I lived like a local in Rome for six weeks. I took language every single day for three hours.

I ran the Tiber River every morning. I'm a runner. That's what I do for cardio. And then I lived my best life. I was going to lunch and dinner every single day. I literally lost five pounds doing it. I don't believe it. I don't know how it happened. It's because the quality of food is so much better over here.

Exactly. But I really love the lifestyle and the people and obviously the food and the culture of Italy. Yeah. And all of it. So I think if, you know, I think I'm going to spend as much time as I can over there as well. That's amazing. I just love Europe.

It's the best. I agree. Rome is actually my favorite out of everywhere I've been in Italy. I know, but people don't know this. You've never been to Paris. I've never been to Paris. I know. I know, I've been saving it.

I went to Paris with Sophie for the Olympics. Your daughter, yeah. We had the best time. Yeah. I wanna ask you about Sophie because you know, you guys are very close. We. I wanna ask you about Sophie because you know, you guys are very close. We're very.

And she's 28 and you know, the time that we've been able to spend together, I can just tell what a great relationship you guys have together. And so I'm curious what your best parenting advice is. How have you guys been able to have such a great relationship? It's a great question.

I don't have all the answers, I can promise you that. First of all, I have a great question. I don't have all the answers, I can promise you that. First of all, I have a great kid. Every parent will say that. I got blessed with a kid who she makes it easy for me to parent. Yeah. Okay. So one of the things about... So Sophie's mom is a great mom and she's really strict. I'm less strict than her mom is. And so we make a very, very good team. She is like always like, I don't want her, like when she was a kid, I don't want her to do this and this and this.

And I was like, let her do it. If she runs a red light, it's fine. It's called life, right? And you have to learn through things. So the balance of us, the two of us, I think it was really helpful to her. I've only had to have about five conversations, what I call life conversations with Sophie,

where she did something where I was like, that you cannot do that, you can't say that, you can't operate that way, you can't behave that way. And is this as an adult or even like teen years? Both. Okay. Both. Yeah. And the one thing about her is that I only have to have that particular conversation once.

I love that. And she snaps out of it and she's like, got it. And she moves on and she learns from it. And sometimes she's not happy about it, of course, but, and she moves on and she makes herself a better person for it. Yeah. So I think letting kids live their life

is really important. Letting them make some mistakes. Hopefully they're not big mistakes and that's the risk. But, and also we talk about anything and everything. We have a very open conversational relationship. And so we're able to talk to each other about everything. Trust me, she talks to me about my dating life all the time. Like she gives me the thumbs up and thumbs down.

I love that. All the time. I love it. Have you ever dated someone she didn't like? I've dated people that she wasn't very happy about. Okay, yeah. Yeah. But you know, and she tells me.

Yeah. You know, and I'm like, okay. I like that, yeah. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna date the person. Yeah, I was just gonna ask, did you continue to date them? But I will tell you that when I do date somebody, they're like, I hope Sophie likes me. Yeah, I love that, good.

But Sophie's amazing because she's incredibly inclusive. It's one of my favorite words to use with her because she's not a mean girl. You know, she's not like, okay, I can do this, I can do that, and you can't, ever. She's very inclusive with everybody around her. And she makes, and also she makes sure that I'm the same way.

So she'll be like, don't talk about that if somebody's not gonna participate in that. Don't make them feel bad. Like she always, she's amazing. She's amazing that way. That's awesome. And she has her own career and she's off the payroll. I know, yeah, hell yeah.

That's when you know you've made it. But it's true, someone, I recently saw this quote that they said, if your kids wanna hang out with you when they're adults, that's a successful relationship. On my way over here, I told her I was coming to see you. She was so excited about that. She's a huge fan of yours. And she's like, can we hang out by your pool tomorrow?

I was like, sure. Oh, see, I love that. It makes me so happy. Okay, last thing, will you play a game with me? Sure. Okay. I guess so. You have to. You don't have a choice, will you play a game with me? Sure. Okay. I guess so. You have to.

You don't have a choice. All right, this is called Hot or Not. So I'm gonna give you situations with a girl and I just want you to tell me if you think this is hot or not, okay? Oh God. Buckle up. No, it's not bad. Okay, she makes you dinner and it's honestly just not good,

but she did try. Hot. Hot, okay. You can tell she's already been drinking when you pick her up for a date. Depends how much drinking. I know. I mean, a drink, yes. Okay. 30 drinks?

No. She's luring her words, maybe not so much. Okay, I think you kind of answered this earlier, but she insists on planning the first date and does everything, it's all a surprise for you. So she plans everything. She's planning everything. Yeah, I'm totally into that.

You like that? Yes, because for the most part, I'm gonna be doing it all the time. Okay. And if there's a special occasion that she wants to do it, absolutely. Okay, okay. Okay, she makes you chase her a little in the beginning.

Definitely. Hot. Yeah, I think it's hot for sure. She's also a chef. Yeah, that could be definitely hot. My first wife was a chef. Oh, okay. Is that how you guys met?

Yes, we met through the business. Oh, okay, interesting. Okay, she has a two-year-old. Well, I will tell you this. If she's a great mom, it's hot. Okay, oh, that's a good answer. I love that. I think that moms who are great parents,

I think that's a hot thing. It is, that's a very hot thing. Because it shows caring and adoration and thinking about other people. Yeah, no, you're right. All right, amazing. You passed. I did?

You passed, yeah. 65%. Yeah, good job. It's like school. Good job, you're perfect. You're amazing, I really appreciate you being here. And then tell everyone where they can find you and also the book.

Okay, so Bobby Flay, chapter one. Thank you so much for talking about my book. But I mean, you can buy it, you know, Amazon, all the places you can buy books. And where can you find me? I don't know. Instagram, Bobby Flay. Yes, thank you.

You're on TikTok, right? Yeah. You don't wanna promote that? It's not that, I am on TikTok. I'm just not, I just don't feel like I'm that good at it. You're really good at it. I don't know. I've lost my majeure, but. But the other thing I wanted to say to you was

I love watching you cook when you post stuff. Oh, thank you. I've been so lazy lately. Really? Yeah, well, no, I've been cooking. I just haven't been posting as much. I've had this love hate relationship with social media lately, but I'm gonna get back into it.

So thank you. At some point, I'm gonna come into Asheville, I'm gonna teach you five dishes to have in your repertoire. I would honestly, I would love that. Simple things to feed your family. I would love that. I feel like you could also just teach me a lot of different skills.

Also, how do you sharpen knives? I can't sharpen my goddamn knives to save my life. Hire somebody. I know, that's what I know. I do. I mean, I get somebody to sharpen my knives professionally about once a year. I know you have to.

Well, I've heard too a dull knife is actually one of the most dangerous things you can have in the kitchen. Because it doesn't go where you want it to. Yeah. All right. Well, I appreciate you. Anytime. Thank you so much.

Love you.