Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - LIVE: I Get Myself Into Some Serious Pickles — Let's Be Honest Live with Austen Kroll and Craig Conover

Episode Date: July 10, 2025

My buddies Austen and Craig, from Southern Charm, sit down with me to discuss the media frenzy we created a few years back. We finally clear everything up including the multiple love triangle...s and if Craig lied to me about Paige. Plus, Craig's dating life these days and what he's looking for this time around, if Austen's girlfriend is the one, if Craig and I talked during his last relationship, and the hardest thing they've had to live out publicly. Then my bestie Justin Anderson joins us for a drinking game that had everyone's jaws on the floor.A word from my sponsors:Vivrelle - Go to www.vivrelle.com and apply for a membership today using code HONEST for 30% off 1-month of membership - the code will also allow you to skip the vivrelle waitlist.OPositiv - Take proactive care of your health and head to OPositiv.com/HONEST or enter code HONEST at checkout for 25% off your first purchase LMNT - Get your free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase at drinklmnt.com/HONEST. Hiya - Go to hiyahealth.com/HONEST to receive 50% off their best selling children's vitamin. Simply pop - Go to cokeurl.com/simplyPOP to find out where you can try Simply Pop!Wayfair - Shop the huge selection of outdoor furniture online. This summer, get outside with Wayfair. Head to Wayfair.com right now. Wayfair. Every style. Every home.For more Let's Be Honest, follow along at:@kristincavallari on Instagram@kristincavallari and @dearmedia on TikTokLet's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari on YouTubeProduced by Dear Media.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Welcome in to Let's Be Honest. I feel like today's episode is one that people have been waiting for for a long time. And I hate to pick favorites, you guys, but if I had to I think the episode today with Austin and Craig from the live Let's be honest podcast tour This one's my favorite you guys You know, I think it's my favorite because I love Austin and Craig. I would consider them very good friends We just get each other we get along really well, but also all of the headlines that we were in together
Starting point is 00:00:43 Those are headlines. I've never really on. This is the first time I really talked about this stuff. So it was fun to sit down with my friends and hash it all out. Clearly we're all over it, you know. Enough time has passed, there's no emotion. Wrapped up in everything still so we could just laugh about everything and have a good time. And this episode did. It really made me laugh. I laughed really hard listening to it back. The boys were so honest and real. Well, honest, honest is maybe not the right word,
Starting point is 00:01:12 but you have to watch Honest The Cavalry for the behind the scenes tee. Because this is why this is so great, you guys, because you can listen to the podcast episode, right? Listen to it, like, you know, this is how it really happened. And then you can go watch Honest The Cavalry and you can get the aftermath podcast episode, right? Listen to it, like, you know, this is how it really happened. And then you can go watch Honestly Cavallari and you can get the aftermath and me being like, wait a minute, he lied about that. Wait a minute. Because sometimes what happens is
Starting point is 00:01:34 you guys, guys will lie, you know, or like, well, yeah, it's mostly guys will lie in front of people or whatever. And I in my head, I'm like, I don't think that's true. But I don't have the facts right now to be like, that's not that's bullshit. But then what I do is, because I I'm a fact checker, man, because I want to know if I'm wrong, because I'm the first person if I'm in the wrong, I'm like, okay, I'm sorry, I was wrong. But I'm usually not wrong. And so after this live podcast show, I did have to go back to the receipts and check a few things because I was like, am I crazy? No, no, I'm not crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:08 No, no, I'm not crazy. So you guys got to watch Honestly Cavallari to hear what one of the boys is lying about. Okay? But even with all of that, I mean, I love these boys so much. We just, we do, we have this bond, we have this great friendship. We've had a connection from the day that we met and Justin joins us in this show for the drinking game for Sip or Spill. And it's honestly one of the most outrageous,
Starting point is 00:02:34 jaw dropping drinking games that I've ever played. Lots of shots were taken, lots of laughs were had. And I really do just love Austin and Craig so much. These are friendships that I will have for life. And I hope you guys enjoy this episode. I know you will. I have a couple of questions for you guys. Do you guys watch Bravo?
Starting point is 00:03:02 Yeah, right? Yeah. What about the show Southern Charm? Please welcome Austin and Craig! I know you guys! Surprise! Whoa, Boston. I told you they were going to be excited. I know you guys!
Starting point is 00:03:35 Whoa, Boston. I told you they were going to be excited. Oh, you guys! Surprise! Whoa, Boston. I told you they were going to be excited. I know. Hell yeah! Oh my God, you guys! What's up, Boston? They love you guys!
Starting point is 00:04:03 Holy. We've actually been here before, Boston. We have been to the Wilbur Theater before. Yeah, but not with this audience. But not with this audience. This audience is lit. OK, wait. You guys, the last time the three of us were together,
Starting point is 00:04:19 do you remember what night that was? Your intro made me almost, I like turned around back there. You're like, we're going to be in the headlines. This time I was like, I'm sick of being in the headlines. I don't want to do it. Yeah, your life is in the headlines. Was it the Taylor Swift night? Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:34 No. I think so. The last time the three of us were together when I was humping your neck. Do you guys know what I'm talking about when I was on his shoulders? We were singing Taylor Swift's We Are Never Getting Back together and I put Kristin on my shoulder because I was trying to piss off my ex.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Oh my god, that's what it was. And I was so drunk. I was like, yeah, take a ride. Well when I was planning this tour, this was the show I was the most excited about because what happened with us in the press a few years ago is the one story that I basically haven't commented on. So I'm really excited to get into it all, but we're gonna get there. We're gonna get there.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I actually want to start with you, Craig. Oh, Craig. Hi, Getson. How is it being a single man these days? You know, life's about chapters and really excited to be going into the next one. Obviously, like, breakups are weird, but we all go through them and everything happens for a reason. The universe has crazy, works in crazy ways, but I'm actually through them and everything happens for a reason. The universe has crazy,
Starting point is 00:05:45 works in crazy ways, but I'm actually dating right now and I'm having fun. Oh my God. That was my next question. And just excited for the next chapter. You know, that chapter was really fun for three years and now I'm in an unexpected but fun one now. Okay, we're excited for you. How are you meeting girls? I heard you're on Raya, is that true? I did it for a little bit. What did you think? It's scary.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Why? Cause I- Kristin loves Raya. I'm on it. Are you? I'm like, why haven't you seen me yet? I didn't lock up on mine. I haven't seen you, I would hurt you.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Kristin was trying to get me to do Raya. She was like, it's awesome. It's so much different than everything. I love it. By the way, I like it for two weeks. you ever fucking hate it? Yeah. But have you ever messaged anyone on Ryre or do you just like swipe? No, I talked to a lot of people. Oh, good. Good. No, I, um, baby steps, but it's fun. I'm, I'm, I wouldn't be out here if I wasn't like ready to, uh, to, to live again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Okay, how many dates have you been on? Oh, I wouldn't say that I've been on any dates. Okay, you're just talking to people? I, God, you'll have to watch next season of Oh no, come on. Don't give us that bullshit. No, no, no, I have, I've been on a date with a really, really nice girl and
Starting point is 00:07:04 How did you meet? What? How did you meet what how did you meet? Ryan oh on Raya. Okay, so it's been successful for you. Yeah, it's fun I mean Charleston's a small world, so I'm just taking baby steps into this journey, but I'm excited about it Okay. All right. I'm excited for you. Thank you. Thank you. So anytime you go through a breakup and a little time has passed, you're able to reflect on a relationship. What are you taking from your past relationship? What do you not want and what do you want in your next one? Well, I was able to evolve into a better version of myself
Starting point is 00:07:41 during that relationship, which was awesome. And that was definitely attributed to her for a lot of it. I think I want to be able to travel, how do I say this? I'm saying I don't have any complaints about that relationship, but going into my next one, I really want to experience life together
Starting point is 00:08:01 and to be able to like, I think I'm in a position now I wanna travel the world and I want someone that can travel with me and, and do all of that. And just to be, I think I'm going to go back to living on the beach and a farm and having chickens and like, I just, I was willing to do the city stuff, but I think I'm just, I want to have a farm and live on the beach. So I think this time I'm going to look for someone that wants the same things as me. But I was, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:28 It's hard to answer. I'm just saying like compromise is fine. But if I, if I have to reset, then I'm going to find someone with a couple more things in line with me, I guess. You got to have chickens, man. Once you have chickens, you can't go back. I'm excited. It's all about the chickens.
Starting point is 00:08:41 It's all about the chickens and you got to get beehives or you have be I have bees. We're I'm this close getting chickens. My assistant who's here right now is freaking out cause he thinks he's going to be left to take care of the chickens. I used to make my assistant clean the chicken. Don't you have chickens? I do. Do you have silk?
Starting point is 00:08:57 I need to get new ones. Do you have silk? Yes. They're the best. They're so cute. Austin, are you going to get chickens? No, no interest in chickens. No interest in chickens over here. No, but it'll be downtown in Charleston. Yeah. But it'll be fun
Starting point is 00:09:10 to visit Craig's farm with chickens. You know, you get all the benefits of chickens without having to deal with them. I just don't need chickens. You just get the eggs from crying. I'm fine. Yeah, that's right. I love that for you. Yeah, thank you. Craig, would you say how Paige broke up with you is the worst way you've ever been broken up with? No, I'm not talking. No, no, it's okay. I mean, it's look guys, breakups happen and I really am like, I'm grateful it did. I look, I've only had to break up with one person in my life and it was the hardest thing that I've ever done.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Like it sucks. Like when you know something's not right, you have to, you have to end it with one of your best friends. Like I don't wish that upon anyone. I actually, I wasn't ever bothered by the way that it happened. I was upset that it was happening, right? So like I think if you complain about the way
Starting point is 00:09:57 that you're broken up with, I think that's just masking the fact that you're sad that you're being broken up with. Cause it doesn't matter like- Oh, I like that. No, because it doesn't matter how you're broken up with. Like you can say like, oh, you owed me the respect. No, you just wanted a chance to like
Starting point is 00:10:11 plead your case to them. So no, I don't, I just think I was bummed about being broken up with. I wasn't bummed about the way it happened. But like I said, the universe works in crazy ways and eventually I think we'll both see that it's the best thing that's happened to us in a while. So yeah. Austin.
Starting point is 00:10:31 What? Sorry, it's a weird thing to like talk about, but it's just breakups happen. And I'm honestly, I'll tell you this gratitude got me through it, which I was like, there's millions of people that switch places with us in a heartbeat. We didn't have kids. We weren't married. We didn't like technically live together. So we got out at a good point, nothing against people that have to break up after they get married. Just stop. Just stop all your head. You were talking about Christine. Great perspective. Let's just shut the fuck up now.
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Starting point is 00:15:58 God, I kind of like Craig just said, I'm horrible at it. Yeah. Well, well, someone who like, just says it how it is and like says the truth and it's like, this is the best way to do it. That's me. Are you a ghost? Or the best way to do it. I'm not a ghost or I'm like, let's like walk around it until you see it. You're horrible. I used to be that way. And that's how I broke up with them. Break up with you.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Basically. I know, I know. That's awful. Kristen, I know. Okay, so that's what you do. That's not what I do. Actually, I saw this recently that that's what most guys do. They like become an asshole, they're distant,
Starting point is 00:16:36 so that then the girl has to break up with you. You little bitches. Yeah, that's messed up. That is not entirely true. But no, I don't go like, you know, mean stuff. They're like, oh, you're mean and then break up. It's more like, yeah, we're just gonna we're just gonna leave it there. Great. Okay, right, right, right. Well, you have been in a relationship now for a while. Yeah, I have. How's it going with Audrey? How long has it been? Gosh, we've
Starting point is 00:16:59 been dating over a year. Wow. I know. And I've been- Officially too. Yeah. It came to my attention, Kristen, that I was like a one foot in and one foot out guy. I believe that. Yep. And I used to live in this place called the Gray Area. And when you live in the Gray Area, then you can like officially do no wrong, even though you are doing wrong.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Oh. And so it came to my attention that all these things, you know, all these things were happening. You guys have seen lots of it on TV where I've just messed up many things. And so I was like, wait, you met someone who's super cool because I thought that relationships are that like, just always were, you know, tumultuous, right? Because the makeup was always fantastic, right? Oh my God. God, you're so. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And so I just. You and Madison were amazing. That's what, yeah. So it's like the fourth person in this whole situation here. I wish Madison was supposed to be here. I wish she was. I know. We love Madison. Yeah, we do love Madison Madison. Madison and I are good friends now. And so it's all, but for a while there,
Starting point is 00:18:10 it was horrible. And she did a lot of things and I did a lot of things. And so then for me, when I found someone who was so just even keel, I was like, okay, we're going to make this thing official and I'm going to ask you that question that, you know, and I was like, will you be my girlfriend? And I was like, this is the day that we are dating. And that is that. And I was like, yes. So I did that. I love that for you. So what is it about her that made her stand out from the rest? I mean, just the fact that I just like wanted to spend a lot of time with her. I feel like, you know, you can go on a date with somebody or go on like a weekend away, which I did. And I was like counting down the hours to like get me out of here. You know, it's the worst, you know, and that had happened time and time and I was like, when are you going to like learn from this and
Starting point is 00:19:01 stop putting yourself in a position where you're going away on a weekend. Where you have- Don't go away with someone that you don't necessarily like that much. How often are you guys going on trips with strangers? I'm not doing trips anymore, but like I get myself into some fucking pickles, man. Totally.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And Craig has laughed at me for so many of them. He's like, man, you always get yourself into this shit. And I was like, I, yeah, I know. And this is the last time. Well, you get really excited. We want to know what it is. Like for me, I date a lot of people who don't live in Nashville. So I'm like, come stay with me for the weekend.
Starting point is 00:19:31 And then I'm like, oh, yeah. Yeah. You're like, why did I do that? Yeah. Get a hotel motherfucker. Yeah. And that way. OK, so what do you do if they come visit you? Do you put their suitcase in like a guest room or do you walk them into your room? Because I feel like you've asked me that before. I'm going to start putting them out in the guest house. Yeah. You're just like, Hey, you have your own space over here. Yeah. And so I done,
Starting point is 00:19:54 not well, I only said that because one time Austin did call me. Do you remember? And you were like, what do I do? Well, you were just like, what do I do? Like, do I walk her stuff up the stairs and put it in my room or do I walk it up the stairs and put it in the guest room? I, okay. So I, I feel like I would appreciate my own space. Yeah. I think you put it in the guest room. So then there's no pressure. Her dressing room. And I did put it in the guest room. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Did good. Was she cool with that or was she offended? No, she was fine. Right. And she was like, it's not like you're pulling down the covers and being like, this is where you're sleeping. You'll be sleeping here. It's just like, you have this safe place in case apparently all these travels go awry. So yeah, I would appreciate my own space. God, I can't wait to start dating again. It's gonna be so much fun. Yeah. And so you start doing that and then you realize very quickly, especially as you get older
Starting point is 00:20:41 that you, you really don't like everybody. You really just don't like everybody. I don't like anybody. Yes, Kristen. Well, that's why we all got along so well. Yes. That's actually, yeah. We all- And like, that's why we all got along
Starting point is 00:20:57 because when the four of us went and got dinner, and Justin, wherever Justin is. That's right. We just all hit it off. And we all just been hit it off. We all hate everybody. Yes. And we were like- So we bonded over that.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Yes, we did. Yes, we did. Wait, is Audrey the one? Oh, boy. I don't, I, you know, we are doing really well. I know it's a very boring answer and I'm about to have to start answering. Yeah, you're shortly. He's going into a period where it's like, so when are you going to pop the question?
Starting point is 00:21:32 And it's like, when's she going to move to Charleston? When she going to move in? She lives not in Charleston, Charlotte. Oh, that seems like a fun place to visit. That's where I'm from, Kristin. Oh, I love Charlotte. Okay. I'm going to Charlotte for the SZA concert. I love Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. So those are questions that I guess that I don't want to have to start thinking about, but I guess that, you know, Craig's going to show up and be like, so I'm like, damn it, Craig, don't ask. Yeah, it's your turn this year to get all those questions. OK, can I just say, so in your breakup,
Starting point is 00:22:08 I've somehow gotten roped into this again now. And I'm like, what the fuck? I saw on TikTok, everyone is accusing you and I of speaking during your relationship. Have you seen this? No, I just stay off the internet. Oh, that's smart. Well, I'm seeing it all.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And everyone's like, yeah, like everyone was, I don't know, I guess she said you were talking to two girls during the relationship and everyone just assumed it was me. So can you just clear this up? Did you and I talk one fucking time when you and Paige were together? No.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Let's save it with a little. Well. I was like, no. That was not convincing, Craig. No, it was not. Oh, I just, I just thought that I thought that whole. Well, we ran into each other at the MTV movie or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And that was great. So like you didn't text each other once being like, hey, no, it was just. No, I mean, I really know the only thing that ever happened. Pull up our text messages. No, no, no, I will. The only thing that ever happened was obviously because of the shows that were on it was like tumultuous between, you know, us and you went on Watch What Happens and you were really nice. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And I said thank you for being nice. That's right. So yes, in three years, we only sent one text. It wasn't like we were like chatting it up. I don't know where that I was laughing because I don't know where that came from. I am a good boyfriend at a fault when it comes to if I commit to that. You know piss you off there, Kristen. Yeah. No, I mean, I just, I don't think you should be with someone that's not your one. Like I think that's when infidelity happens. Like if you're with someone, like you should only be with the
Starting point is 00:23:36 person that you want to like do bad things with. If only everyone was as good as you. It did piss me off because I was like, oh, I'm getting dragged into this again. Are you kidding me? Yeah, but you can't worry about like the internet too much. No, I know. It's fucking TikTok, but okay. No, that was the only time I said thank you for being nice because you went on Watch What Happens and we hadn't talked and you were nice about Paige and I was like, thank you. That's right. That's right. You're welcome. What is the worst rumor that you guys have
Starting point is 00:24:04 heard about yourselves? That I'm short. That is so fucked up. And Craig's convinced that it was, that's hilarious. She said, welcome to Boston. In 2020, like if you Googled me, which I'm not saying that I do,
Starting point is 00:24:24 but because it's normally- You have your Google alerts on, don't you? 20. Like if you Googled me, which I, I, I'm not saying that I do, but, but cause this normally you have your Google alerts on. It's normally nothing nice. So I do not Google myself, but, but it said that I was like five 10 and Craig was like, that was Madison. Madison changed your, that is and changed your height in the bio. I was like five, 10 and like 160 pounds. I love that. I know it was Madison. I love that. I hated it. I know it was Madison. I want to do that to someone.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Go on Wikipedia and change it. Yeah, just change it and you're like, yeah, just five. Every ex-boyfriend is all of a sudden five, six. Yeah, exactly, exactly. You're like, oh, that's why they broke up. There's nothing wrong with the short king, I just want to say. We love short kings.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Wait, were you tall your whole life or is like, like how long were you a tall guy? Like how well, when did you hear your girls? Yeah, like I didn't get also college. It all started when I popped out of the womb and you're a big baby. I like I grew like a weed and I was just most awkward kid with a bowl cut. It was bad. Were you always the tall kid? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Oh, yeah. I was always the short. Hell gangly embraces and a terrible haircut. Mom, why did you let me have that haircut? Well, that's all of us. Yeah, we all had bowl cuts. What was the worst rumor that you've heard about yourself? Guys, I mean, there's been a lot.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I'm not a masochist. Yeah, I feel like if you just yeah, if you search my name on TikTok, there's probably a lot. I'm not a masochist. Yeah. I feel like if you just, yeah, if you search my name on TikTok, there's probably some mean stuff on there. There's been funny ones throughout the years, but I'm not trying to be this person. I feel like I'm being honest. Without being asked about a specific one, I don't know. I get that.
Starting point is 00:25:58 No, I get that. I would probably have the same answer. I mean, there's some. I feel like if you, there's been crazy stuff. There's a lot. Yeah. There's a lot of shit out there. I mean, there's some I feel like if you there's been crazy stuff. Yeah Parents listen up. Let's talk about
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Starting point is 00:31:25 think about that whole time period? Well, it wasn't as crazy as everyone thought. I had just gotten out of a relationship that I had been in for like a year and a half and I had to be single for a little bit. And we had all met in that time and we just hit it off, which we all had a blast. And then Paige and I, Paige and I started dating after that. But I think that was like, that's a lesson that I'm gonna take into my next relationship probably, is like that gray area does come to haunt you.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Cause like, if you don't, cause I think with long distance, like you can't commit right away cause you're like, am I gonna do it? But I don't know. I think the gray area always will. I thought it sucked. It it was a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I mean, I was getting tagged and shit left and right. You love it. I did not love it, Craig, because it wasn't nice stuff. Oh, it wasn't like what a beautiful couple that they'd make. Like, absolutely not. Everyone thought we were in a fucking love triangle. I was like how am I involved in a love triangle
Starting point is 00:32:29 again as an adult? It was probably posting drunken videos online. That probably has something to do with it. That probably has something to do with it. Yeah and then. Okay hang on. First of all, can we just clear this up? Did anything ever happen between the two of us?
Starting point is 00:32:44 You and me? Yeah. Well, there was this one time, no. What the fuck up? No, nothing happened between Kristin and I. Okay, my issue was- We like went out on King Street together,
Starting point is 00:32:57 you know, that one time because Craig didn't come out with us. Cause he was with his ex-girlfriend. Yeah, and I'm sure that like rumors were, you know, Austin and Kristin are together because it was just us. Right. And we got and we were drinking. Well, and Beegs was there, my best friend Beegs.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Oh, okay. It wasn't just us. It wasn't just us. Okay. So that's how drunk we got. And we were just having a blast on King Street. I don't know. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Wait, that's hilarious. I had a friend. Okay. But here was my- We're like love beans. Yes. Here's- Okay. I want to see if my memory is accurate. I felt like, so you had just broken up with your ex and I felt like we started hanging out and you didn't necessarily want everyone to know. So Austin was like
Starting point is 00:33:35 taking the heat for it, which is then why everyone thought like there was a love triangle going on. Remember you were the beard happens live and you like alluded to the fact that something happened with us. And I was like, what? I did? Yes. No, I did not. Run it back. No, I don't even know. I think it was like a call in, you know, watch what happens live too, because it was like 2020. And, you know, Andy was like, so you and Kristen, I was like, no. And then he was like, well, you know, you're single, you know, anything can happen. And if I said like, yeah, and that is not me saying like that anything
Starting point is 00:34:10 happened between us. I know. Well, yeah, I think when you put stuff out there, I've not been it like that. If I'm over it, not now, I've just been a private person, even though I'm on a reality show for 12 years. I think if you put stuff out there in the universe, it just invites people to like knock it down or hate on it. And I think we were having like a great time and like it was fun. And I, yeah, I don't regret it. I think it was a blast and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I guess you can't. That's the first time by the way, it's the first time by the way that I realized that like my level of fame was here and Kristen's is here. I was like, Oh my God. It was a lot. And that was the first big thing I had been through since my divorce. So I just remember being like, Holy fuck. Well, and no one really ever knew what was going on. I know. I know. There was no love triangle. Well, actually there was another love triangle. Did you lie to me about page? What? Kristen. Like, I definitely think there
Starting point is 00:35:14 was a little overlap and I remember asking you and you're like, no, nothing's going on. Well, we were, I honestly believe like we were such good friends. Yeah. And I'm not saying we were dating. We weren't dating. No, we were such good friends. Yeah. And I'm not saying we were dating. We weren't dating. No, we were such good friends. And then it just like, you know, it eventually like evolved. But no, I don't really think there was as much overlap as everyone thinks. I don't have like, I'd never, I actually am an honest person. Like I never lied to you about anything. Eventually it just got to the point, yeah, I don't think it was, I just don't follow like headlines and like social media.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Like we never had a problem with everything happening. No, I know. It honestly never, it never was weird or anything. No, it wasn't. And then like, and then Paige and I decided to date and then we started a date and we stopped talking. Yeah, it just sort of like naturally happened. I think once I kind of caught wind of Paige,
Starting point is 00:36:06 I was like, I'm going to remove myself from this situation. I think so. And it really wasn't ever anything bad. I think the reason that people thought it was bad is because they weren't privy to it. And sometimes with like our lives, people are like, we want to know everything that's happening. And you're like, I want to keep this like, I just want to chill out for a little bit. I know, I know. Is there anything that you guys keep from your producers because you don't want to put it on the show? No, we just weren't filming during that time. No, but I mean like ever. Is there even today? I mean, there's just stuff that that what's funny is that if you try to keep something
Starting point is 00:36:42 someone else on the cast knows already and they're talking about it. I experienced that on your guys' show and I have nothing to do with that. And so then you're sitting there and you're like, okay, like if we don't talk about it, then no one else is going to talk about it. And meanwhile, they filmed like six scenes about it and you're like, oh my God, everyone already knew the thing that I'm trying to keep a secret from everyone. you know, you play the threesome video, go like that. That was, I was like, you learn that after like three or four seasons, you're like, I might as well, I might as well talk about it. Cause if I don't, someone else will.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Then everyone else will. Yeah. So no, what's been the hardest thing to live out publicly? thing to live out publicly. Getting broken up with sucks on camera, like, or to watch the way that maybe someone that you really cared about talks about you behind your back to someone else on the show. And then you're sitting there like, I don't want to do this anymore. You're like, this sucks. I don't like this. And so that's, and like we've, we've both gotten broken up with multiple times on, you know, the show and that is just not fun. No, I think just feeling misunderstood sometimes is like the most traumatic part.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I love it. I mean, I love the, my life and I love that I've been filming since I was 24 and 37 now, but yeah, it's like a giant mirror in your face and sometimes you feel misunderstood and that's why I like doing shows and connecting love that. I've been filming since I was 24, I'm 37 now. But yeah, it's like a giant mirror in your face and sometimes you feel misunderstood. And that's why I like doing shows and connecting with everyone. Because you're like, we're actually like decent people. You know, like we like to spread happiness.
Starting point is 00:38:16 But yeah, I think hearing like Shep talk about stuff about your life that's inaccurate, but then everyone's like, hey, well Shep said he did this, and then that's all America hears about it, and then I have to hear, like, did you ever take the bar for the next five years of my life when, like, I had passed the bar years prior? So that one, that one was a little tough.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Shep's like, I don't really know how the process works, but anyway. He's a bit of a loose cannon, huh? He just is a buffoon sometimes. What's the best part about having this fame, this notoriety? Because there are perks, you know? What's your favorite, your favorite perk? Being right here right now, Kristen. Are you kidding me? At the Wilbur Theater in Boston? now, Kristen. Are you kidding me at the Wilbur theater in Boston? Good answer. I'm going to follow that one. Yeah. Mine's boring, but it's the philanthropic aspect that comes with it. So I'm on the board
Starting point is 00:39:17 of a couple of veterans organizations and we have an orphanage and we've done some work in Haiti and stuff like that. So mine's always a little boring, but I love that, you know, we can put smiles on people's faces just by being ourselves sometimes. And yeah, the philanthropic side's fun. You guys are good guys. I will say I've gotten to know you guys. You guys have big hearts. You're good people and you guys are humble.
Starting point is 00:39:39 It's good. It doesn't always happen. Well, you should see us look in the mirror in the morning. I want to say, okay, I love you guys see us look in the mirror in the morning. I want to say. OK, I love you guys, but I'm not done with you yet. Will you guys? I mean, this is I feel like we've been hanging. No, I was going to say, I feel like I want to go back to filming Southern Charm after being out here. All right. I haven't heard Craig say that.
Starting point is 00:40:01 So right now, because it's usually really tough. I know. Well, you guys's usually really tough. It's exciting. I know. Will you guys play a drinking game with me? Yes. Okay. But I think we need a little help from a friend, right? Okay. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:40:15 All right. I'm going to bring out one more person. Oh, I love you guys. You're like me. No, no, I'm going to bring out one of my friends. Sorry. No, but you guys are going to be excited. You guys love him.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Please welcome Justin Anderson. Sorry, no, but you guys are gonna be excited. You guys love him Oh my god! Stop it! Stop it! I can't even hear you! Ew! Okay. Why is everyone so fucking hot in here? Like, honest to God, Kristin Cavallari only attracts hot people. It's true. hot in here. Like honest to God, Kristin Cavallari only attracts hot people. It's true. It's true. Welcome back! Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Okay, we're gonna do a little, we're gonna do a sip. I don't know, I guess so. Sip or spill. Sip or spill, it's Kristin's game from Laguna Beach. That's what they did growing up. Okay. How much more can we spill?
Starting point is 00:41:26 I mean, this has been wild. So Justin came up with these questions, you guys. So you can't come for me. I'm gonna run off the stage. You can't come for me. Don't come for me. I did this on my Instagram. You guys gave me the questions.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Okay. Nobody can judge me for anything that I'm asking, but I'm gonna ask. Okay. All right. We ready? Yes. What's the rules? Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:49 So you either he's going to ask a question, you can answer it or you can drink, have a shot. Okay. Wait, what do you have? What's the pink one? I have no idea. I have beer in here. You've got pink.
Starting point is 00:42:00 You have a mystery shot. I love that. I'll take that one last. All right. Oh my God. You guys calm down. Okay, but there's a whole bottle. Well, then what I've... You have a mystery shot. I love that. I'll take that one last. All right. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:42:07 You guys calm down. OK, listen up for one second. Here we go. Oh, not me. OK, here we go. All right. First up, we got Craig Conover. And my question for you is, Craig, who was the last person
Starting point is 00:42:19 you hooked up with? For real. It's so good. Oh my God. No. How are you going to be on reality TV not saying that? You guys need to be back on reality TV. Because this is, you're doing an incredible job. You guys are like the new reality TV where everything is PR.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Yeah, right. I'm not. No. Yeah. All right. We got Austin. Okay, Austin, what was your most? I lost my voice last night.
Starting point is 00:42:56 What is your most awkward hookup story? The girl in the garage. A girl in the garage. What did you say? A girl in a garage? The girl in the garage. They tried to break in your house. All that stuff. What? Wait, a girl tried to break in your house and you ended up fucking her in your garage? That sounds like a murder mystery book.
Starting point is 00:43:18 The girl in the garage. This was also part of our love triangle. Before she got in the garage. Wait, there are so many awkward ones. Before she got in the garage. This was also part of our love triangle. Before she got in the garage. Wait. Wait, there are so many. There's so many awkward ones. Before she got in the garage, she said. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I don't know. OK. Come on. OK, OK, OK. Well, then you have to take a shot. I'll find one. Well, let me take a shot, and then we'll come back. What about the threesome video?
Starting point is 00:43:38 Because I will say it. I love that. I will say it. I just want a good one that'll make everyone laugh. OK, I appreciate that. OK. OK, here we go. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Oh, come for her.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Kristen, why didn't you and Craig turn into something? You guys, I love them so much. How cute would they be? Like the cutest couple ever, for real. I think I had just gotten a divorce and I did not want anything serious and then literally as soon as I found out about Paige I was like bye. Kiss, kiss, just kidding, just kidding, just kidding, just kidding. We're not doing that here, it's not that kind of show.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Okay, next up, Craig, I don't like this question. I don't remember writing this, was I drinking last night? Okay, Craig, did you like, oh my God, to Kristen about Paige when you started a date? You guys just talked about that. We just talked about it, come up with a new one. Okay, I'm gonna fire my agent. Whoever set this up is getting fired.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Okay, okay, okay. Craig, be honest. Did you have a crush on Kristen when you saw her on reality TV before you knew her as a friend? Oh, of course. Yeah, buddy! I did too.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Who did it? Austin, did you? Absolutely. Yeah! I think everyone did. Oh, thanks guys. All right. Chris is like, it should be like my podcast, this is great.
Starting point is 00:45:13 This is a good reality. I love this shit. Okay, Austin, which co-stars are your least favorite to film with? Oh, that's a good one. And be honest, bro, they're not watching, no one's listening. No. No one's a good one. And be honest bro they're not watching no one's listening. No one's ever gonna hear this. Right right right. This won't go anywhere. Well you know there's someone who I do not hide my disdain for and that's a minuscule old man named JT.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I love it. Yeah. Kristen has no idea who that is. I don't. I'm like wow cool. I watch I love it. Yeah, Kristen has no idea who that is. I don't. I'm like, wow, cool. I watch, I know it. Spilling the tea. And yeah, I don't have to hide my, you know, dislike for him. Okay, but if that's on the show, give us someone that we maybe wouldn't know. No, no, no, that's on the show. That's what I'm saying. We want to, we know this, right?
Starting point is 00:46:02 Yeah, we want someone that we don't know. No, no, I have a better question want to, we know this, right? Yeah, we want someone that we don't know. Yeah, I think- No, no, I have a better question. Is he on ozempic? Oh. Because he got skinny this season. I don't know. I feel like that always happens second season.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Like, you see yourself first season, and then you lose all that weight. Second season glow up. If you saw yourself on TV. That's real. I can't know that it's real. Like, all my plastic surgery on Very Cavallari. Justin looks like a different person.
Starting point is 00:46:29 My God, I was from Los Angeles. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Do you like filming with me or Shep more? Oh, that's a good question. Like for scene work. Well, the beautiful thing about that is that one of us are always like at odds. So whoever I'm fighting with, I love to film with the other person and talk shit. And you do the same
Starting point is 00:46:49 thing, man. Me and Craig started to fight this year and all of a sudden he filmed a ship more than I've ever seen him film a ship in five years. I was like, okay, Craig, I see what you're doing here. Oh, Kristen would do that to me. We do that to each other. We would totally do that to each other we totally do that to each other okay here we go all right Kristen oh my gosh I don't remember this but I do this is awful it'll be fun okay Kristen oh you guys I actually didn't write this one okay Kristen who do you think has the bigger dick? Austin or Craig? Oh my god, awkward. Pull it out! Take it out!
Starting point is 00:47:32 I just have to drink at this point. Pull him out! Pull him out! I'm not gonna drink. I'm not gonna drink. I'm not gonna drink. I'm not gonna drink. I'm not gonna drink. Oh my god, awkward. Can you answer that? Pull it out. Take it out. I just have to drink at this point.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Pull him out. Pull him out. You're a mother. No, I'm kidding. I'm going to take a shot. That's hilarious. For what reason? Justin, where are you writing these questions?
Starting point is 00:47:59 I don't know. What state of mind are you in? They all came up of Reddit. OK. Craig, Craig. Oh, I like this one. Craig, what was the last conversation you had on a dating app? Do you want to go to dinner? The date.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah, it was a short run on Raya. What did you say? He didn't have to say much, huh? They didn't have to say much, huh? Clearly. He didn't have to say much. He said it was a short one on Raya. He was like, stop you up. That would be you, Austin.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Come over. He probably said hi. Come over. Hi. Okay. Craig's out of practice, but maybe not. No, this is great. This is a lot. I love this. All right, Austin, yes. You ever cheated on anyone?
Starting point is 00:48:54 I thought you were going to reach for that so fast. I'm just going to drink because I haven't drank in a second. Yeah, that's why. Oh, OK. Oh, my gosh. This one's good. this one's good. This one's good. Why do I feel like I have the worst ones? I kind of feel like you do, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:49:10 All right, Kristen Patricia Cavallari, clearly Austin wanted something with you. Why didn't you go there? I don't know that he wanted something with me. That is funny. I didn't know that. You guys are so. That is funny. I didn't know that. You guys are so lame. Justin, you're such a potster.
Starting point is 00:49:29 I'm not. You are. Because I didn't want a real love triangle. Just kidding. You guys are like, you guys are great at this. OK. He's like, Twitter user sosoandso from Oklahoma wants to know. Like, yeah, we clearly know who wrote this, Justin.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Dirty blonde 84 says, why didn't you? Yeah. It's like- Dog lover from Indiana. Everyone loves a gay friend until they don't. Like, why am I here? What else would I do? Oh my, that's so true.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Okay, all right, Craig. Oh my goodness. Okay. But- Don't act like you're not excited to read whatever's on this card. He's been waiting all week. He's like, oh, this hurts me more than it hurts you, Craig.
Starting point is 00:50:16 But I swear to God, when it gets down to the moment, it's like, fucking A, bro. Okay, Craig, best kisser out of Paige, Kristen, or Naomi. And be honest. Guys, I'm not putting myself in this situation. I'm just... I know you can't. So like, that's basically a game of fuck, marry, kill. Fuck, marry, kill. Oh, you can do fuck, marry, kill. Do fuck, marry, kill. He won't do it. I didn't sign up for this, but apparently I did.
Starting point is 00:50:49 They were all great. I would say that it would be between Paige and Kristen. Oh, thank you. Poor Naomi. I don't want to be an asshole. Well, it's been like eight years, so we can say that. I forgot what it was like. What if you said Paige and Naomi, then you'd be like...
Starting point is 00:51:04 I know, I'd be like, get the fuck off my stage. Get the fuck out of here. She's all, what's wrong with my kissing? Isn't that the line? What's wrong? Yes, you nailed it, Justin. Corrects your line coming soon. I thought I'd get a bigger reaction. No one watches Southern Charm. My God.
Starting point is 00:51:18 No. Okay, here we go. Austin, how many girls have been in rotation at one given time? Be honest. You guys, let's be honest for real. Let's be honest. Justin, I wish I knew your middle name because I'd call you it right now. Justin John Anderson. One. Why is your t-shirt so small? It's actually Scooter's shirt. I packed it on accident. You guys, I didn't try this shirt on before. This is an extra large. I'm it on accident. You guys I didn't try this shirt
Starting point is 00:51:45 on before. This is an extra large. I'm bigger than you think. It's creatine. Okay, Austin, that doesn't get you out of the question. Yeah. How many girls have been rotation at one time? I don't know. It's probably like, four or five. Right. You know, something like that. Were you sleeping with all of them? Probably. Oh, hey, at least you're honest. And they were probably sleeping with other people, too.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And I didn't ask questions. I don't think that I was like there one and only if I was. I love it. OK, you guys, this whole tour is basically me just being like a predator asking fucking weird questions on stage. You need to look in the mirror after this, Justin. I am gonna go to church. Okay, you sicko. Put a bigger shirt on and go to church. Okay, here we go. Clearly going through something. Or I'm not or I'm the most honest person here. Okay, here we go. Because I would have answered all of those. Okay, Kristen, your last question is truth or dare. This makes me so nervous.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Alright, I'll do dare for the audience. That was stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Dare. Okay, kiss Craig on the lips. You knew that was coming. I didn't know that was coming. You absolutely knew that was coming.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Like a drink. That's true. I can't do that you guys. It would be like, it would be everywhere. Mariah Davis is more than just a kisser. Do a big hug. Do a big hug. They're flirting right now. Kristen is a great kisser by the way.
Starting point is 00:53:29 She's a great kisser. Oh my god. This has been so much fun. Life's about timing. This has been so much fun. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:53:37 I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. So, great kissing. Oh my God. This has been so much fun. Two weeks.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Life's about timing. Oh my God. This has been so much fun. It's been an easy night for me, you know? Wow. It's been wonderful. Is that it? It is it.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Oh God. Thank God. Sorry. My God. Okay. Wow. You guys, give it up for Austin and Craig. I love you guys.
Starting point is 00:54:01 You guys are the best. Are you guys members? We love you guys, too. Thank you. You all were awesome. Thanks, Paul. love you guys, you guys are the best. We love you guys too. Thank you, y'all were awesome. Thanks, Paul. Thanks for being here for what you won't see on TV sometimes, but I guess now you will. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for
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