Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - LIVE: "I Will Publicly Destroy You" — Let's Be Honest Tour with Kim Zolciak

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

Want more of my live interview with Real Housewives of Atlanta's Kim Zolciak? This is the first time Kim opens up and is brutally honest about the drama surrounding her divorce and all of the headlines we've seen, including money issues, filing for divorce multiple times, Kroy stealing all of her jewelry and handbags, how her kids have handled seeing way too much, plus the moment she wishes didn't make it on air and if she's dating Chet Hanks or not. A word from my sponsors:Dipsea - Get a 30-day free trial PLUS 25% off your annual subscription when you go to DipseaStories.com/HONESTQuince - Go to Quince.com/honest for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.OPositiv - Take proactive care of your health and head to OPositiv.com/HONEST or enter code HONEST at checkout for 25% off your first purchase Bilt - Start earning points on rent you're already paying by going to joinbilt.com/HONESTKa'Chava - Go to https://kachava.com and use code HONEST on their subscription for a limited timeFor more Let's Be Honest, follow along at:@kristincavallari on Instagram@kristincavallari and @dearmedia on TikTokLet's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari on YouTubeProduced by Dear Media.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Welcome in to a bonus episode of Let's Be Honest from my live podcast tour. We are kicking this thing off together today, starting with Zolciak who I just absolutely adore. I was so thankful that she came out you know Kim has been in the press a lot lately and She hasn't really spoken about what's been going on You know This is her first interview that she did and so I'm really appreciative to her for coming out on the Let's Be Honest Tour and setting the record straight on a lot of rumors because there are a lot of rumors surrounding Kim. It feels like every day there is something new in the press. So I can really

understand why she wanted to come out and set the record straight. And you know, this is a big moment for me. This is a big episode for me because this was the very first stop on my very first podcast tour. I was nervous as shit. You know, I've told you guys a thousand times that I typically do water shots whenever I'm taking a shot on camera.

But I did take a real shot before I went out on stage. And then I did do a real shot when I would come out on stage, I did a shot with the audience, which is not in the actual episode, but before the actual interview portion when I spoke to the audience, I took a shot with five people from the audience

and this shot was real that I did in Atlanta. So if you were at the show, that is a real tequila shot. I was so nervous, but the crowd in Atlanta was fucking awesome. You guys were so electric. You were so loud. It was like I couldn't have asked for a better crowd for my first show to come out to. They just put me at ease. They made me realize that, you know, these are my people. And I'm in good, you know, good, comfortable space with everybody here.

So I'm excited for you guys to hear this episode. Kim is so honest and vulnerable and real. And as a mom who is also supporting her family, I can totally appreciate why Kim really wanted to set the record straight on a lot of these money rumors that are going on. And so I think you guys are going to be really into that. She just really does not hold back at all. then after the interview we play a drinking game Kim and I and it's just we laughed our asses off and I laughed listening to it back

and so I'm excited for you guys to hear this episode also just shout out to Atlanta I love Atlanta I spent six weeks there when I was probably 19 I actually filmed a movie in Atlanta. It was the remake of Revenge of the Nerds, which ended up getting canceled. We shot for, I think we shot for four weeks, ended up staying a little bit longer while we were trying to figure out what was gonna happen.

They put a halt to production and then they ended up canceling the movie. So yeah, that sucked. But I did have a ton of fun in Atlanta, so I was excited to go back. Although this was my quickest in and out on tour. I flew into Atlanta that morning and then I flew out first thing the next morning to go to Chicago because then the next day I had two shows in Chicago back to back.

So this was a quick trip. I didn't have a ton of time to really do anything in the city and hang out, but again, just couldn't have asked for a better audience and experience for the first show. So thank you guys so much to those who came out and I hope you guys enjoy this episode with Kim. And don't forget you guys to check out Honestly Cavallari, which is on E and then also Bravo and then a week later it goes on Peacock.

So you have lots of opportunities to check it out because obviously they go, it goes, you know, those shows go hand in hand with these podcast episodes. So here it is, the first stop in Hotlana, baby. All right. I have a couple of questions for you guys. Do you guys watch The Housewives? I'm assuming you guys are all fans of the OG cast of Atlanta. My guest is a reality TV icon. She's my personal favorite housewife and she is no stranger to the headlines. Please welcome Kim Zolciak! I knew you guys would be excited. Thank you, thank you. Are you guys ready for some real truth?

I can't even hear you, it's so loud! Okay! Tell me if you guys can see up my skirt, okay? No, my god. I just said, are you guys ready for some real truth? I know. How excited are we that Kim is here, you guys? Holy shit. Okay, obviously, we all know you've been in the media a lot and we're gonna get to it.

But I wanna start with Atlanta because I love it here. I actually lived here for six weeks when I was 19. I filmed a movie here and I had so much fun. So I wanna know what first brought you here when you were 21. I graduated nursing school, and the last year of nursing school, my dad was transferred to Georgia, to a law firm here.

So my mom stayed behind to help me with Brielle, and as soon as I graduated, I came here for, like, vacation, and I just never left. So what's kept you here all of these years? What do you love so much about it? I mean, I have, have like the best friends here, the best doctors, my kids grew up here. I mean, honestly, like my pediatrician.

Well yeah, you look fucking amazing. Yeah, the pediatrician. Pediatrician, 26 years we've been together. I talked to her today. It's like, you know, this stuff is important to me. I die for you. It matters. Pediatricians are very important.

As are other doctors. Kim, you're a reality TV icon. You're one of the OGs of the Housewives. But you also had your own spinoff for eight seasons. Don't be tardy. Really quickly, I just want to say... having your own show for eight seasons is a massive accomplishment.

I don't think people really understand that. Thank you, yes. It is. It's huge. I don't think people really understand that. Thank you, yes. It is, it's huge. I mean, you get paid to film with your family. There's no better job. It's the best. It's the best.

So I'm sure you get this question all the time, anyone on reality TV does, but how real are the shows? And just for me, as a viewer of The Housewives, I'm also curious, because coming from this world, you know, I have my idea of what's real and what's not, but I always want to know what the housewives, are they real? It's a hundred percent real.

Come on. I promise you. Come on. In Atlanta, I don't know about the others, it's a hundred percent real. It was for me and those, you know, throughout the years. Yeah. Is that because housewives know

in order to have camera time, you have to bring it. So everyone just sort of brings their A game from the get-go. I never thought about it that way, ever. I just, in the beginning, it was me. Nini Chiray and I knew each other for years prior to actually doing the show, and we were just ourselves. And then I think people were trying to bring their A game

and trying to come up with things to stay relevant. That loses a little bit of the authenticity. It does. It does. But, I mean, all in all, they never told you what to say or do. Or it just it turned out as crazy as it was. I'm shocked. I come from the world of like everything is fed to you. Really?

No. Everything. No. Wow. There may be a pickup scene where like the viewer wouldn't understand this because they didn't hear me say this. And that would be like a pickup line. But other than that, never.

Wow. OK, that's amazing. How do you feel like you were portrayed on the shows? Horrible. So, but they were all real. I mean, it was really real. Was it an accurate representation? Listen, I definitely have a mouth on me, okay? I'll be the first human to have a mouth.

Which is what we love. Yes, thank you. But I was actually up north, where I grew up in Connecticut. You know, if you don't like somebody, it's like, fuck you. Honestly, down here, it's like, hey, sweetie, and so sweet. And then it's like, hey, fuck her. And it took me years to realize this. I was so hurt when I would watch the show

and we just had lunch and then they're talking shit about me. I'm like, what the fuck? We just had lunch. I know, I know. I went through it for sure. Which show did you like doing better? Obviously, Tardy. Don't be tardy with my family for sure. Yeah, that makes sense. All six of your kids filmed Don't be tardy. And so what was their experience like? Did they ever give you a hard time or they loved it? Never. Like even when they were little? Yeah. Yeah. Our film crews, our family,

we had pretty much the same people throughout the years. And it was just one big fun party, honestly. We had a blast. I will say, so I finally put my kids on camera. You guys, they're gonna be on this show. Oh, awesome. And it was, they were so excited. They were like, do we get mic'd up?

They were like, they loved it. It was so cute. Yeah, it's adorable. It was so cute. It's adorable. All right, guys, let's take a minute to talk about O Positive. O Positive is a women's health company. They offer a range of symptom targeting supplements that support women at every stage of life, from their first period to well beyond their last.

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I mean, I was really naive. I'm not anymore, but I was very naive. Just, I mean, any way to kind of make it into something, they do slice and dice sometimes to make it look worse or whatever, but the tour, the bus tour, and Candi and I, and Nini just coming at me. I mean, if you were to Google Kim Zolciak

for your Apple images, and it's the craziest faces I've ever made, and I look insane, and I wish they were all wiped away because I make crazy faces. But anyways, I don't regret, honestly, in all seriousness, one thing, I know exactly who I am. I'm very comfortable with who I am. There was times where I was like, oh, God.

But I just, this has made me so strong and my daughters have been on tv since they were five and nine. They're 28 and 23. It's just been the best experience ever. You get paid to be yourself. Yeah, exactly. And people love you for you. I actually think that's the best. Yeah, for sure. If I'm shaking, it's because I'm freezing. I'm not, I'm not up here just like shaking. I'm so fucking cold. I'm shaking, it's because I'm freezing. I'm not up here just like shaking. I'm so fucking cold. I'm like sitting under a fan. Okay, let's shift gears for a minute. I wanna talk about Kroy,

and I wanna know what first attracted you to him. I mean his butt, yeah. Those football butts, man. They'll get you. They're something. They will get you. They will get you. I fell for that too.

How would you describe your relationship in those first few years? Amazing. In what way? We just had, I mean, Cory was an incredible father, an incredible husband, gave the family his all, filmed, played in the NFL, did all these amazing things.

He was great. Yeah. And when any athlete retires, it can be really challenging because, you know, their whole life they've been this football player, that's their identity, they retire and that's totally stripped from them and they sometimes feel like they have no purpose. Did you see a difference with Croy when he retired from the NFL? I really didn't because we just jumped right into Don't Be Tardy. I want to call it tardy for the party all the time, but Don't Be Tardy. And so we were

focused on that. That was four or five months out of the year. And that was five days a week. And so we just kind of had that. And then we had our downtime with the kids the other seven months or whatever it was. I kept him busy. Yes, for sure. There was no real time to kind of process that. But I think maybe he was ready to.

You guys have been in the press a lot lately. I feel like every day is something new. Yeah, jaw dropping shit like holy shit, what is going on? When in your relationship did you start to maybe notice that things were taking a dark turn? I would say there was a couple episodes in like 17, maybe four in 18, you know, six or seven in 19 and so forth and so on.

No details, but that's when we started to... No details. I get it. I get it. No, I get it. You have to be careful about what you say sometimes. Right. Even though I'm not good at it. Just not good is what I'm trying to tell you guys.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay, you guys have both accused each other of some pretty serious stuff. You've wanted him to submit to drug testing. He's accused you, no, you've accused him of stealing. And you guys have just had a lot of money issues. What in the media has been blown out of proportion? Or would you say that everything that's out there

is kind of an accurate representation of what's going on? First of all, I love when people tell me I spent all Kroy's money. I've made way more than Kroy. Yeah! people tell me I spent all Croix's money. I've made way more than Croix. Yeah! Croix's last NFL season was in 2015, just so we're clear.

We're in 2025. And he just got a job in March of 2024. So when I see this, I've worked my ass off to provide for my family and my children. This man has not paid a bill in this house in years. Even with a job, he hasn't paid a bill in this house in years. Not closed for my children, not extracurricular, nothing. That pisses me off. As it should, but people just see it. I love when they say, oh, poor Croy.

Poor Croy. I'm filmed four shows in one year on four networks, guys, the last year. Thank you, Jesus. Thank God. Yeah. Thank God. But his goal when I said I was going to divorce him was, I will publicly destroy you.

You'll never work again. And he tried. Didn't work. Well, I'll just say it. You'll never work again. And he tried. Didn't work. Well, I'll just say it. He sounds like a real piece of shit narcissist. Yes, 100 percent. Their whole goal is for their image to be so perfect and to just completely trash you. I definitely feel I don't think that way.

And so what I've this is the first time, by the way, I'm speaking because I just moved into my brand new house 10 days ago and I feel safe. I feel safe enough to speak and I just wanted to protect my children to this so I've remained quiet. I've not done any shows, podcasts, nothing. I just I do feel safe. I think I just think what was your question? I don't even remember. I'm drinking a white Russian guy. I don't even fucking know. No, but I think it's really unfortunate because I have seen with the women that are in my life, there is this common theme with these men. And I hate just loosely throwing the word narcissist around,

but unfortunately this has become the norm. And I've seen it with a lot of women that this is what they do. Their public persona is trying to be so perfect. And we're over here like, are you fucking kidding me? If people only knew. No, I wanted to speak. Like, Cory filing motions saying I'm an unfit parent.

I've been on TV like 17 years. The only thing that hasn't been said about me is that I've been a bad parent. You cannot say that. My kids are my entire life. They always have been. I raised my girls by myself. And that's one thing that like,

but Cory knew what would hurt me the most. And so he would file these motions because they would get out publicly because TMZ is pulling him from the court. And I'm sitting like, are you, what are you doing? What are you doing? But he wanted to get to the media before I did. And-

Well, and it's heartbreaking because you guys- That's weird, like you're with somebody for this long. I'm not an asshole. I still, even today was nice on the phone. So I, you know, I still treat them with respect. I still, I've lived in a prison for years. Cameras and lights, cameras under beds, stalks, just horrible.

I've been through horrible, horrible experiences. And so have my children, yeah. I know it's hard. It's really hard. You're gonna get through all this though. We're there. I'm out on my own. Finally my house is done. It makes everyone stronger in the end, including the kids.

I'm so happy just so I'm glad. The best friends ever that are here. I don't know where they are. They are. They're so sweet. And they've just been my strength. And there's nothing I wouldn't do for my kids. Even I'm sure you maybe experienced where sometimes you have to put your own heart,

like Cory would take the kids from me for two or three days, even though he's still living in the same house, he got another house in November. And instead of like making a scene, I would just call my friends and cry. But you do that for your kids, right? So I've taken a backseat to a lot of my own emotions, my heart, my soul to keep the peace.

And that's been my hardest struggle. And now being out, it's great. I don't have to do that anymore. Well, and you know what too, kids always figure it out. Even if they're little kids grow up and they figure it out. And I'm pretty sure your kids already know. They know which parent they wanna be with. They get it.

They do, I guess there's a law in Georgia, or I don't know if it's across the United States, but in Georgia in particular, you have if it's across the United States, but in Georgia in particular, you have to be, I think, 13 to make your own decision in KJ or 14. KJ will be 14 in May and he's made his decision. So there you go. There you go.

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It's not black or white. It's so complicated. And does it have to be? Like, does it really have to be? Right? Like, why are we doing this? I've said this many times. Like, what's the kids should be our main priority? Why are we spending money doing this? Oh, I know.

On the actual divorce, you mean? Yes. Yeah, it's ridiculous. They're so expensive. You mentioned stealing. He stole every piece of jewelry I've ever owned in my life prior to him, as well as Brielle's and sold it all. Every piece I've ever owned in my life. I know it's crazy.

Every piece. I had my engagement ring in my earrings because they were hidden in my raw guys. But other than that, you know, he did that. He stole 20 of my most expensive handbags. So amongst stealing all of this and emptying out I know. Emptying out our home, I've had to borrow money from girlfriends. My own daughters have helped. It's been crazy. And then I've gotten these four shows

which have been God's greatest gift, short periods of time for really good pay. And so I've been able to provide, you know, with that and kind of just, it's a lot. Thank you. It's a lot. Thank you. It's a lot. It's a lot. You're always gonna know how to make money.

I mean, you'll always have shows and you'll have all kinds of things coming your way. Let's talk about your girls though, because Brielle and Ariana, there were all of these rumors that they wanted to separate from the family. And when I first saw that, I took it like you as well, but that's not the case. And I want you to clear that up

because I know you lean on them too and you have a great relationship with them. No, they've been amazing. I don't want to speak for them, but their relationship has definitely changed with Kroy, and it's not the same, and so... You guys are solid. Oh, my God. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.

Yes, they're my whole life. I mean, I had Brielle at 18, 19, Arjan at 23. I mean, I grew up with them, and, yeah, no, there's never been any kind of issues between us. There has been some clarity. Kroy will say something, I have to clarify or prove sometimes, because, you know, whatever. But never has there been an issue between me and my girls.

Good. I love hearing that. Yeah. Well, so you and Kroy, you guys have filed for divorce three times and reconciled in there? So that's all bullshit. Yeah. Okay, walk me through that. So I actually, on May 5th, went and filed for divorce.

I called Ariana to tell her she was very upset and asked me to wait a week. I went back into the law firm. I said, don't file. I go home, I called Breanne. Unbeknownst to me, there's cameras like Ness or Blinks or whatever they are, where they can hear you too.

Our cameras weren't that way. And I told her I filed for divorce today. Well, then Kroy ran off at like seven at night and filed for divorce. Yes. Yes. So I, Ariana, Kroy kept saying, we need to tell the kids, we need to tell the kids,

we need to tell the kids, meaning the little ones. And I was like, no, we don't. Like, why do we have to tell the kids? So I said, Ariana, could you just maybe like tell them that, you know, I pulled the divorce. Well, she called me crying and said, well, he filed. And so that's true. And then I tried to work it out.

We tried to work it out for a period of time. It was difficult, like living in the same house and whatever. So we tried to work it out for a period of time. And then I got this offer to do surreal life in Columbia. And he said that in order to just maintain this marriage and stay with him, I could no longer film ever again in my life. Oh my God. Oh my God.

Pan to God. And I said, this is my passion, this is what I love to do. And I'm taking the deal. And he said, if you take the deal, I'm filing for divorce. I said, and then file. Wow, yeah, good for you. Yeah. And then we been going through Fulton County courts

and all these things. We've just moved our case to Cobb. I've moved. He didn't refile anything. It's just we moved to a different county per se. Oh God, that must piss you off seeing stuff like that. I did write under E, not true. Exclamation, exclamation.

Usually I'm quiet, but I'm like, this guy filed for divorce a third time. It makes no sense. Well, I know, cause that's why I was like, so that you guys must have reconciled. I was like, but I mean, I can kind of understand. I think a divorce is hard. It's not, it's not weird, I think, to maybe try to go back at least once or twice.

I don't know, just because it's hard. He's tried to work it out this entire time, but then does crazy things that would never allow me to work it out. So it's kind of strange to me throughout this process, but we're almost there. He'll probably still try for the rest of his life. Maybe. Yeah. Well, during a divorce, I think about kids. And I think when kids are little,

it's really easy to shield them from what's going on. But you know, they grow up, they get phones, they're on the internet, they see the headlines, they see all of this. So do your kids know everything that's going on? And how have they handled everything? They all have phones. The older KJ and Cash have like the internet

and they have a lot of restrictions on their phone, but I mean, it's inevitable. They've have phones. The older KJ and Cash have the internet and they have a lot of restrictions on their phone, but it's inevitable. They've seen it. They've also had to call the police on their dad and things like that. So it's been a very hard situation. They've seen way too much, but they're very aware.

I don't talk bad about Kroy to my children ever. And that's why none of them are here because KJ and Cash really wanted to come tonight. I was like, not for you guys, but- Tonight's not the night, guys. I have tried to, I's, I think what I've had a hard time with is comprehending kind of the things he is saying because it's accessible to my kids in five years, 10 years, 20 years. They're going to read this stuff. And, you

know, through the first year, my kids were like, this is kind of weird. And now they're, they've really kind of seen a bigger picture on their own, I mean, on their own. Oh yeah. They do keep quiet about some of it. I ask them like how they're doing and they'll say like, oh, dad divorced you again for the third time, sucks for him. Like they'll say funny things to me like that

and make light of it. But that's what I'm saying about like when you're going through this, like we were married for, you know, 13 years. And so how do you do an untangle and just go out there and slander the shit out of me? Their mother. The mother of your children. Of the children. I know. What are you doing?

I mean, I'm gonna punish you. That's all it is. You know, I'm gonna punish you. Well, and that's gonna backfire with his relationship with the kids. It just will, 100%. Yeah. All right, well, we can get off of the Croy of it all. Yes. Bye, Croy. But I do want to know, what is the craziest rumor that you've ever heard about yourself

out of all of the years? I'm sure you've had some good ones. I've had a lot. I feel like more in the last 18 months. Well, that's true. I would say more so. Yeah. I mean, Kroy and I had a pretty stable marriage for quite some time.

Were there any other rumors, though even with like some of the housewives or like a feud with the housewife or anything? I don't even remember that part of my life. That was like so traumatizing. Blacked out? That was like so traumatizing. I honestly, I went back season 10 and did this reunion again

and I was like sitting there for three and a half hours and I was like, what the fuck was I thinking? Tell me about the reunions. I never had to do a reunion. I can't even imagine. Did you have anxiety walking out into those? It's absolutely horrible. And I'm not, I'm like anxious, and I also like love,

no matter what like Nini and I or Sheree and I went through, we still love each other. And so she would say things to me, and I'd be like, really bitch? So, but I still, I mean, there's some things that have gone on in my life that Nini's aware of that she's never shared.

I've known things about her that he's never, there's just a line that we never really did cross in all seriousness. I love that. Yeah. That's good to hear. Yeah, they've never crossed that line. And so there's a level of respect there,

but it's literally like you're berated for hours and hours and hours and hours to where you're just like broken down. I walk, I said Andy, he's like I get it. Goodbye. Like I said, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I can't imagine. Yeah, it's a lot. Okay, what are your overall feelings when it comes to headlines? Are you in the camp that all press is good press or do you see some of this stuff and it stresses you out? I don't think all press is good press. No. Yeah, I don't mean that it stresses you out? I don't think all press is good press, no. Yeah, I don't either. I don't.

I don't really read it, to be honest with you. Like, when Jack, our publicist- We have the same publicist, by the way. He calls, my heart starts racing, I'm like, oh fuck. Oh fuck, what is happening now? That's my thing. So then I'll not answer, so I'm like, what's up? He's like, it's all good.

I'm like, thank God I called him back. He starts with that. Yeah, it's all great. No, I don't agree with that, but you don't really, you can't? He's like, it's all good. I'm like, thank God I called him back. He starts with that. Yeah, it's all great. No, I don't agree with that, but you can't really control the narrative, right? Anymore, like you have no control of the narrative. I've let all of that go. I don't even have time to focus on these things

at the moment. I'm battling for my kids and their advocate and working and moving and doing all these other things. Like I, honest to God, don't read them. Do you ever just see a headline though? Yeah. But then you just go through Instagram and they're like, Corrie divorces Kim for the Do you ever just see a headline though? Yeah, but then you just Instagram and they're like, Kori divorces Kim for the third,

how does that make any sense? But you just keep scrolling and you're like, whatever, this is stupid. I do sometimes type back to people on Instagram, like you spent all Kori's money, it's like really bitch? I know, I know it's so hard not to pop off. Yeah, and then I've sent some shit to Jack and I'm like, Jackie, I'm gonna post,

he's like, just wait a minute, just don't post anything right now, Kim. Take five, calm down. Just relax, sleep on it 24 hours. Sleep on it. That is actually really good advice because you always do wake up the next day and you're like, whatever.

And I never would have posted it. I know. It's that next day. But in the heat of the moment, man, you're gonna be like, this isn't what happened. I know. All right, I wanna know what's next for you. You said you've been working on multiple shows.

What else? Because we need you on our TVs all the time. You're so sweet. I did a show on Hulu that airs April 11th. Okay. It's a game show that's insane. It was done in Canada. Wait, but tell us the premise.

20 people in a house going for a million dollars. Holy shit, who else is on it with you? Some celebrities, some civilians. Fun. No. No. I mean, it was, it was, it was. It was really fun. Fun. No. No. I mean, it was, it was, it was. It was really fun. It's exciting.

It's exhilarating. The creators of Pawn Stars and Deal or No Deal created this show, so that tells you anything. It's a really fun show. This is season one. It was called Exit Strategy. Now it's called Get Out of Here, or Get, I Gotta Get Out of Here.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that'll be fun. Do you win? You'll have to wait and see. I'm very happy for the person that did get some money. Very happy. Okay. Yes. Okay. You'll see. You'll see. I'm excited for that. Yeah. Okay. Well, any can you give us any more info? I'm probably bringing the podcast back. It's just not going to be called House of Kim. Yeah. House of Kim was awesome, super successful.

It did really well, but then we started with these issues and it was just too hard to like, nah, I have to be myself, honestly. So I just couldn't do it anymore, which made me sad. So I do wanna do the podcast with my best friend Jenny, who's here. When I met her, she was going through her, she was divorced.

And then I kind of have been going through my process. And so it's like people that are in things, whether it's drug addiction or, and people that have been through it. So we have somebody that's like really heavy duty into whatever it may be. And then we have somebody that's already been through it to help them explain.

So we're just here to change the world and help people one day at a time, honestly. Yeah. Oh, that's great. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. Kim, you're the best. No, you are.

You being here and being open and vulnerable really means the world to me. So thank you so much for coming. But I'm not done with you. Kim, you're the best. No, you are. You being here and being open and vulnerable really means the world to me. So thank you so much for coming. Thank you for having me. But I'm not done with you. I'm not done with her. Okay. I want you to play a drinking game with me.

Oh, of course. We're just gonna keep the alcohol flowing, guys. Okay, we're gonna go over here. Okay, we are gonna play Sip or Spill. You guys know Sip or Spill, right? So we're each gonna have four questions in front of us and we have the option to answer the question or take a shot of tequila.

Oh boy. Jesus, save me. I know, right? I'm ready, I'm ready. All right, you do the honors and you go first. Okay, why don't I have my glasses on? You're the guest. Who is your least favorite housewife?

You're not going to answer? No, I'm not answering. You got to take a shot. What is this? Tequila. Woo! Okay. And now I really want to know the answer to that one. I'm gonna ask you backstage.

There's a few. There's a few? Oh my God. Okay. Did you date Chet Hanks, Tom Hanks' son? No. We, he's amazing. He's an amazing man, an's amazing. He's an amazing man, an amazing human.

We really connected on the show. No, no, on the show we made a really good connection. So we still talk. I meet him in LA. He meets me when he's in Atlanta. And he's amazing. You guys are friends. Yes.

With a question mark. If we stayed in the house any longer, we might have been more, but we left. Got it. OK. I like him for you. He's great. He's really humble.

He's been through it. He's honest. Yeah, he's great. He's really great. I love that. OK. Have you ever hooked up with a crew member on any of the shows you've done?

No. Yes. I've been there. I get it. on any of the shows you've done. Yes! I've been there. I get it. Yeah. Have you? Yeah. I dated a cameraman on the hills, and it was so fun. It's like, if I was dating him,

and he's just, like, filming me all day, I would be like... But no one knew. It was awesome. I would be like. But no one knew. I bet not. That's amazing. That's amazing. It was so fun. OK, you're not drinking. I know.

Have I ever leaked a story to the media? Never. I love that for you. Hand to God. Love that for you. OK, you don't need to. That's the thing. Thank you. If you had to spend one night in prison with Lauren Conrad or Lo Bosworth,

who would you pick? You need a drink. Stephen! Should I just drink just for shit's a giggle? Yeah, drink. I want her to drink, guys. Oh my god. Drink! I need a chaser.

I'm gonna be fucking hammered. Come on, do it. Oh, you need a chaser. Okay. Good job. Good job. Good job. Okay. Oh my God. Okay. Do you really have a gambling problem like Kory alleged?

We really fucked you on these. I've never gambled in a casino in 14 years without Kory gambling as well. Boom. Boom. Boom. Love that. Okay. Did you ever hook up with Justin Bobby?

Yeah. Yeah. I think I kissed him on camera, but that was it. I never even saw him outside of filming ever. So no, I'm no. Yeah. This has been fun. Kim Kim I fucking love you yeah oh my god well you guys got me drunk and I fucking love Kim.