Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - Musicians Love to Play Their Own Music

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

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The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This is Let's Be Honest with Kristen Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality TV, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Welcome, welcome. Okay, the audio is working. I have my headphones on. Microphones are plugged in. That was so embarrassing, the audio last time.

The audio was really bad on our last one. Sorry about that, you guys. Again, like I'm a one-man show over here doing everything and this is not ideal. So today we have a fun episode for you guys. We are going to play Truth or Drink. Can't really see them, but we have shots in front of us here of tequila. It actually feels a little warm too. I know, I know that just made me literally no chaser. Like we're just raw dogging this. So we're really going to want to answer these questions. Um, and so we're just going to have some fun. We asked some listeners

or viewers, I guess we should say, to send in some questions. So between us coming up with our own and listener questions, I think this should be pretty fun. We got really good ones. We got a lot of good ones. And we were laughing about it. We didn't tell each other what we're going to ask, which I think is the most fun because it's just like really spur of the moment. And we're going to be very honest. Yeah. But they were really funny questions. There were some funny ass questions. Okay. So do you want to go first or do you want me to go first?

Okay. I can go first. Okay. I didn't put these in order. I need to do it in the right way. Okay. Let's have some fun for a second. Okay.

You have to live without shoes for the rest of your life. So you have to live without shoes for the rest of your life or So you have to live without shoes for the rest of your life or live in the same house as your ex. I don't know why I love that one so much. Guys, I hate shoes. So I would 100% go shoes. I think living at the beach, like I never want to wear shoes actually.

That's really easy for me to answer. I don't believe you like you can't go on a date night with cute shoes on you have to show up barefoot you're all don't mind me i'm just a free spirit like you could never put on a sexy pair of heels red carpet you're just like jewel you're like a hippie. What if my shirt literally says, what is this? Something about hippies. Long-lived. Oh, my God. Long-lived hippies. If it was that over living with my ex,

yeah. Well, that's more of the problem. But I'm like, don't act like not wearing shoes. Just be easy breezy. You're just out on a hike barefoot at the kids' basketball game. They're all,

bitch is dirty. Yeah, i think about like the airplane can i have socks no barefoot oh fuck i'd still go a little furry parasol like that makes it better you're just the sock girl nashville's favorite sock girl oh god okay that's starting this thing off strong. Okay. All right. Let's just go for it. Have you ever gone down on a girl?

Yes, I have. I definitely have. I don't, I mean, I am. Like in high school? Like I am as gay as they come, right? But in high school, I definitely did the whole like straight guy thing. I had girlfriends all the time. What did you think when you were going down on a girl? Were you like, OK, I know. I honestly think there's like two types of gay guys, many more probably. But I feel like there's some gay guys who are like absolutely disgusted by the idea of hooking up with a girl. And there's some

that aren't. I fall in that category of like I'm not, but I don't want to do it now as an adult but back then because I thought that was the norm and I was trying so hard to be straight it wasn't gross to me and I'm a people pleaser so I like really made sure I was good at it like I like oh my god I needed to be the best at it like I had a lot of sex in high school so you think you're good at going down on a girl oh 100 but think about But think about it, because like, if I'm going to do anything, I'm going to be the best at it. And I think that like because I have a lot of

feminine energy in me, I understand also what feels good. I don't know. I feel like a lot of guys, especially at that age, have no idea. They don't know what the hell they're doing. When you hear stories about how guys finger bang for the first time, it's painful. Can ow, painful. I didn't actually have, but you can't beat it up. No, no. A lot of guys are like really aggressive. It's like,

you need to be like soft and gentle. I mean, there's like a time and place for more aggressive. I didn't have like good oral sex until I was an adult. I bet. Yeah. Cause I feel like that's something that people really need to practice. But I also remember when I was doing girlfriends, I would really listened. I was obsessed. Remember Loveline? We were both obsessed with Loveline. It was a show on K rock or radio station was all about sex. And I would lay in bed at like 15 with my earphones in listening to that. And I remember them like they'd have like porn stars come on and explain how men should do it. And I like would like listen, like made sense to me.

I need to say, though, is helpful. Yeah, you guys should. Like there was a GQ article written years ago that like really explained how to go down on a girl. And it is like if you do what it says,

like instantly. Yeah, there's a whole art to it. Same thing with the blowjob. Like there's there's an art to it. I mean, I remember hearing somebody. Oh, my God. You know who explained it one time was lisa rena and like her book i love that and i read something about it but like i was like yes she nailed it she gives a great blowjob i mean there's an art to it both ways yeah that's true that is true the one thing that i do want to say is like i am very very gay i don't want people to be like justin and kristen probably hook up like

no i'm very much gay. But like, I was never grossed out by it. I was very much in that. I love that. Yeah. Okay. That's great. Okay. That was your question for me. We're not going to drink anything. No, literally. Oh, I kind of like this for you because I'm actually curious about this with you too. If you could be a guy for one day, what would you do? Whoa, I love that question. Because you're very masculine in my opinion. I am. There's like not a whole lot that I feel like would be different than my life. Except we're actually jerking off. Jerk off all day long. No, I would. But I would also,

I would want to fuck a chick like doggy style. You are such a tall. I would just like want to see what it was like. That's like a power thing. You know what? There were a lot of questions about, cause I think the lesbians want you in the community really bad. I've said stuff about lesbians that they're like, I'm right here.

Yeah. Lesbians love because you have like that strong dom, but then you're also very feminine. So like you would be a lesbian's dream, I think personally, but you're not attracted to women at all. Like at all. Like I like kissed girls in eighth grade and like high school and stuff

to like turn the guys on. But I would, I thought of going down on a girl actually makes me like, like it's sad. Would you let her go down on you? I don't think I could. I really don't. I really don't think I could. I really,

I really don't. I really don't. I believe it a hundred percent. I mean, I do. Like, there's a part of me that like wants to be this free spirited person and be like, yeah,

I could do that. No problem. But like if push came to shove, no, I could never. No. And you'd have no reason to like, or I mean,

no one would have any reason to hook up with anyone they're not attracted to. It's just like, there's no desire. Like you're never thinking about like. It's just like. There's no desire. Like you're never thinking about that. No I don't know. And you physically couldn't do it. Makes sense. Like could not.

Okay that was a good question. That's. I love that that's what I would do. I mean I guess like chop some wood and shit. Like I don't know. That's probably it. Yeah. I think it's always about sex.

Yeah. I think if I was like a girl for the day like i would want someone to suck my dick that doesn't shock me at all i'm just glad that you're saying it out loud because i know that about you like i literally that doesn't shock me at all oh my. I'm a dirty dog. I'm the dirtiest guy there is. Okay. This one, I got asked all, like the number one question. Have we ever hooked up for fun? Yeah, I got that a lot too.

Like you, what is wrong with you people? Well, and Krista and I were saying, cause we were like, we're talking about how that question was in there so much. And I was saying like, I really think a lot of people don't understand the friendship between a girl and a gay guy. Maybe they had never had a gay friend. And I understand that

if you've never had a gay best friend, but there is no sexual chemistry between or there's no desire. Like at all. It would be the weirdest thing in the world. I don't think we would stop laughing. First of all, I would never be able to look at you again.

No, it'd be so freaking weird. Even if we were like hammered and something started to happen. I know for a fact it could never get there. So no, it would never. No, it would literally would never. No, it would be the weirdest. It's it'd be like having sex with your sister. Literally, though, you guys like that is what it would be like.

So but with that said, like, I realize how hot you are. If I was a straight guy, I would chase you down so hard. I can be honest about that. Like if I was a straight man, like you would be my type. Like I think you're so hot. Like, and I always still, I'm like, damn, she looks hot.

Like, but there's no sexual desire. I'm not like, yeah, I want to hit that. Yeah, it's not like jerking off to me. You wish. That's like your dream to switch over a straight. You want every guy to be in love with you. That's your your dream to switch over a straight you want every guy

to be in love with you that's your dream including all the gays you guys Justin won't leave me alone he keeps showing up at my house oh my god

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You're not going to want to answer this. Okay, let's hear it. Or you could. Maybe a really quick, fun story will come to your mind that you want to dish. What is your most rude celebrity encounter ever? That's funny because I had all the same questions for you. Well, I have a good story for you. It's not necessarily the rudest, but it's definitely it's a crazy story. And I've actually talked about it publicly, but not in a long time. So when I was still in high school,

I was a senior in high school. I was 18. But Talon, who was on Laguna Beach with us, moved up to L.A. And we would go up and go out with him. So he was like kind of hanging out with Lindsay Lohan. And I happened to be sleeping in bed with Talon one night. We had gone out. I was fully clothed. Like I had a long sleeve shirt on. I remember the whole thing.

Yeah, we were just friends. So Lindsay breaks in at like 4 a.m. with all her little girl squad, comes down in the room, opens up the door, sees that I'm in there, goes up into the kitchen, starts throwing glasses against the wall, like losing her mind. Talon's roommate, Frankie Delgado, who I'm sure some of you know, had to like pin her down and calm her down. So, okay. So that happens. And I'm like, whoa, that was batshit crazy. So I go and do an interview with Rolling Stone magazine. I'm 18. This is like my first big interview. I don't know what I can and can't say.

I say the Lindsay Lohan story. Well, that's printed in Rolling Stone magazine. So then I'm like, oh my God, she's going to fucking kill me next time I see her. I was like, I'm so scared of Lindsay Lohan. Next time I see her, she's like, hey, oh my God,

we have to get lunch. And I was just like, Hollywood is so fucking weird. But also like, that's scary to me because that's like manipulative. It's like, because those kind of girls

like want to get close to someone who they think is their enemy to like fuck them over back. So it's like that's like a next level kind of crazy. You're like, bitch, I know what you're doing. I'm like, you're nuts, man. Oh, my God.

So that's that was just like a wild story. And that was like my introduction to Hollywood, too. So I think that's honestly why I never got close to any real celebrity girls because I was always I didn't trust them. I was always a little freaked out. I was like, it's such a user manipulative, gross world. So that's interesting. I think that like opens up another topic because I think that like you weren't friends with a lot of girls in Hollywood. You never did that whole thing because there was a time when like all those Hollywood girls knew everyone and let go out. But I didn't want to like hang out with them all the time. But what I'm getting at is you had a reason for it because I think that a misconception that

a lot of people have from the outside is that you're like a guy's girl. Like you're always with men, but you have really close friendships, but they're real and they're kept quiet. It's not about Hollywood and being seen or whatever. That's like friendships in Hollywood. Not all of them, but a lot of them are like, it's everything's to like garner more attention. And I wasn't, I wasn't going to subscribe to that. Like I'd rather have like real good friends that I can trust and count on than like that kind of Lindsay Lohan. Yeah. And you have to be careful with it. Like you don't know what they're going to do with the info that you share with them. It's just, you can't trust a lot in that arena. Right. Such a gross place to be. Okay. So same thing with you because you had a lot of celebrity clients. Who was the rudest client that you ever dealt with? Oh my God. Um, you've got

some good stories. I do have a lot of good stories and I'm not trying to be a cop out. It's just that, okay, here's my thing. You can drink if you want. I'm going to drink because I think it's tacky when people in my position, I mean, anyone who doesn't know who I am listening or whatever, like I did celebrity hair forever and really big celebrities. So of course, people are going to ask me that all the time. And maybe one day I'll write a book or one day I'll do like a tell all or whatever. But I think at this point in my life, I think it's tacky when people in my position, like if I was collecting money from these women, because that was my job to do their hair and stuff. And then I now told stories about them. That's not fair.

Like that's their privacy. But I'll talk about the great people forever. And I can give hints on bad people. But so no, I can't say like a specific person. I didn't think you would. I agree. I mean, you've got more class than that, which I think is it's a good thing. Is that a warm tequila shot?

I don't even know why I didn't make that a big deal at all. I was just like, I was doing a quick one. Oh my God. Okay, that is great. I'm proud of you. Okay, I think it's your turn. Oh, because you doubled off mine. Yeah, that was on my list.

Oh, well, okay, cool. So two for one. Okay, two for one. Okay, right. Okay, what is your... I've actually never heard you say this, so I'm interested. What is your most embarrassing sex story? Oh, okay.

I can't even think of one for me, so that's not one that usually... I don't get embarrassed very easily. Embarrassing sex story. Hold on, I gotta actually... I mean, I don't really like... I don't have a lot. I mean, have I...

Like, I've queefed sometimes. That was just drinking water as you said that. Why were there so many questions about queefing? So queefing's real. So it's an air bubble in your coochie that you just have to let out?

Because it's clearly not gas. It's air. This is what happens. The guys push air up into you. It usually happens doggy style oh that happens with gay guys too oh okay but in the butthole but we don't call it a queen so yeah it's like it's usually doggy style if you're like taking it out and putting it back in yes and then and so like yeah when i younger, I'd be like mortified. And now I'm just like, it's like par for the course.

Yeah. And also like, I just want to be like, you know, that was a queef though. Not a fart. Right. Like,

can we just like establish that? I'm like farting. But when you're younger, I think it's really funny when that kind of stuff happens to a guy. But I feel like now people like understand. It's like, that's how the body works. Also,

the guys are the ones responsible for. You're like, you did that. You know what you did that. You did this. You know what you did. You know what you did. Oh my God. Okay, that was a good question.

But yeah, I don't have anything like that. I mean, I've also had sex where it's like started my period. And I'm like, oh my God, there's like blood everywhere. I'm like, sorry. I literally didn't know. Guys don't care though, right? They don't care. They just like, sorry, I literally didn't know. Guys don't care though, right? They don't care. They just do it. They do not care.

Yeah. Guys don't care. Okay, here's a good question that I don't know the answer to. So as a gay guy, you obviously take it up the bootylicious. So do you guys put sex toys up your butt? And if you do, what age did you start doing that? I feel so bad because you is so private. Like I would talk about anything like I will talk about anything.

I do think that's good because he's so private. But I don't think you would care about this. I don't take anything in my butt. So like and not I'm just not. You're a top. I'm a top. Yeah. So like in the gay world, there's like usually a top and a bottom.

And I'm 100 usually a top and a bottom and i'm a hundred percent atop and i want to say that i don't think that being a top is the powerful position or like that doesn't mean that i'm the more masculine role because oh because that's interesting i do take it like that yeah no because some bottoms are like you can be like a power bottom like they're like really masculine and they just want to like take it in the butt or whatever so i just like to point that out because sometimes people always think like, oh, so that's the feminine one. And not necessarily. That doesn't offend me. In our relationship, I'm definitely the more masculine.

I'm just saying it doesn't always mean that. So I do not take it in the butt. But here's a funny story about that. Yes. So there is a thing. There's a whole art to anal sex. They're just it. Well, can you give me some pointers?

Because I don't like it. Okay. You have to. Okay. They're just it. Well, can you give me some pointers? Because I don't like it. Okay. You have to. Okay, Scoot and I. We've been together for 10 years. And we are very sexually active. We very much enjoy it. We still have amazing sex 10 years in.

And we've never had a bad situation. Yeah. Like a poopy situation. Never. Not once. That's phenomenal. And that's because scoot is there's a whole art to it you know you have to know with like when you've ate and then there are tools

that you can prep yourself and scoots very big on prep i'm taking care of that situation but in order to sometimes get your butt already yes there are toys that you can use. And Scoot's thing, he uses a big fake wiener, a dildo basically, right? Oh, really? Well, there's this one that he has

that you can suction cup onto the shower. I showed you this. And I thought it was so funny. It's a huge wiener, you know, because it's like you want to get yourself

prepared for it to happen or whatever. And I'm hung. So like he has to get it ready. Like you use something a little bit bigger than your partner's or whatever. So it's this big fake wiener. And I thought it was So like he has to get it ready. Like you use something a little bit bigger than your partners or whatever. So it's this big fake wiener.

And I thought it was so funny. I was going on a work trip. I woke up really early, go to the airport and it was in the shower. So I stuck it up on the top of the shower. So it was just like

hanging on the shower. And I thought he would get in the shower in the morning and see it like stuck up on the wall. He didn't shower that morning because he just went to yoga. And our housekeeper came in and she found it in the bathroom. And we have the housekeeper windy and she is bless her heart the sweetest person

she brings a bible to our house sometimes so she's she's very very conservative like that but she she did laugh she came out scoot was like i am mortified i am so sorry and she kind of laughed we're for sure the only gay guys that she works with, you know? 100%. And we're so close with her now. Like, we talk to her all the time or whatever. But she's gotten the nose very well. Oh, my God. That is... When you guys told me that, I was dying.

Because you know when... More Wendy. Like, she's so sweet. And, like, soft and sweet. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure it was, like, traumatizing for her. Was that my question?

Yeah, I asked you. Yeah. Okay, here's a good one. You might get mad at me and take a shot but i feel like everyone wants to know at this point because it's kind of been hinted at okay have you gone on a date with glenn powell yes or no you got this as a question a lot of that's why i kind of had to ask because there were so many of them i think you could are i think you're allowed to tell the story of the whole thing.

How it went down. At this point. No. I can do whatever the fuck I want. It's just a matter of. Bam, bam, bam. Yeah, mama. That's my girl.

I'm an independent woman. But I just. It just gets to a point where it's like. I don't need to be name dropping guys all the time. I understand. You know. It's also like. I don't want to be like the Taylor Swift of podcasts.

Well, calm down. Don't use her name like that, please. I'll get that out. No. But like, I don't, I don't want like guys

to be afraid to go out on a date with me and then be like, she's just going to talk about it on the podcast. Which is so interesting that you even have to think about that, but it makes total sense.

And we were saying before, because I was like, wait, Kristen, how much can I ask you about like celebrity things? Because that was a lot of the questions. And the thing is like, you're not afraid to tell the stories. The issue is then it becomes a headline. I don't want to have to see it plastered all over the tabloids. And then, cause then also like,

I don't want to have to drag Glenn through the mud or like whoever it is. And so I just sometimes feel like, yeah, it's better to just to leave some things left unsaid. So I'm going to take a shot. No, no, she didn't do that. Oh, my God. Okay. Okay. My turn. Okay. Fuck, marry, kill. Jay, Steven and Tyler Cameron? For me? Oh, saying it for you. I think like... Yeah. Oh, for me?

Well, I'm not doing anything with any of them. Well, except for Tyler. I mean, Tyler is the hot. Tyler Cameron is, I think, the best. We've said this to each other a million times. Like, of course he's so hot. But I remember the first time you introduced me to him. I could not believe how good looking a person could be like that.

He is the most good looking human on the planet. But then on top of it, so nice. Like, I really love that man. I think he's such a good guy. OK, so the question is, fuck, marry, kill. Jay, Tyler, Cameron and Steven. I love that those are your three. Those are like who people associate you with. Yeah, those are like your big standouts.

Not Morgan Wallen. Just kidding. Okay, I would marry Tyler Cameron, 100%. I would... But you're debating. No, I just don't want to say the word I would fuck steven

but i guess i would that would be my choice and i would kill jay no shade to anyone there was a point where i loved jay so much and i love the children that jay gave us so i don't want to be nasty but uh jay would be out. Does that work okay? Yeah. It's so funny because we are being very honest right now but there is a party that like thinks about like, okay, you're telling a bunch of people this stuff. Yeah, this is like my actual life. It's like real people.

Thank you for entertaining us with your life. You're real people. Okay, tell us about an actual fight you and Justin have gotten into before. We've really have only gotten in like one. I wouldn't even really say a fight, but it was New Year's Eve three years ago. And we were in Florida. I was with someone. You were with Scoot.

And then our friend Charlene and her husband were there. So it was like the three couples. And we were at dinner and you were on your phone. And I was so mad that I finally was like, Justin, put your fucking phone down and just be with us. You guys, it was the scariest moment of my life to have her snap at me like that, because it is true. I feel like we are really good at navigating our friendship. Like, well, we know when we're going too far with things or we're just very considerate of each other. Like we really are like we do not fight. But I remember when that happened yeah it like shook me to the core I was like oh my god but there was this period of my life and that was to be honest like we were in

the midst of all the lockdown stuff yeah that was the height of COVID yeah so we went down we rented a beach house so that we could have maybe some freedom or whatever and I just feel like at that time I was I was like obsessed with my phone I was like documenting everything but But that was a huge wake up call because don't you think I've changed? Yes, you've gotten so much better. Like I really put my phone away when I'm with people and I never wanted to be that person. So it's not an excuse. But that was our fight. I was freaked out.

I'm like, it's fucking New Year's. We're all here together. I was so mad. But you have gotten a lot better since that. And it was good. Yeah. And you know what would have been in our friendship? Like, let's say you did that.

And I was like, fuck you. You look at your phone too. Or like if I got it from the table and left, like I heard it. I processed it. I'm like, no, the bitch is right. It's true. I'm at a table with five of my friends and I should be present. Like, why am I filming other things and laughing and whatever?

Yeah. So the fact that like I took it and I like I got it, you know, and I was like, Kristen, I get it. No, it makes sense. You're really good with that. Thank you for calling that out. Like because our friendship is more important than like me being right. Is it my turn?

Yeah. OK. Have you ever had a crush on one of my men? I have not. And let me see if this will make sense the way that I explain it. I don't get crushes on people that there's like no possibility of something happening. You know what I mean? That makes total sense. Yeah. Like so like me, I think there are a lot of gay guys who like love the idea of trying to turn a straight guy or they like they I think there is nothing more cringe for me personally. I'm not saying this in general,

but for me, there's nothing more cringe than like a gay guy flirting with a straight guy. I agree because I just think it's tacky. I also so but then also knowing that a guy is straight, I don't even develop those feelings. Even me saying how hot Tyler is. It's like I can look at things, but I'm not fantasizing. Yeah. Or I'm not like, oh, I wish he would hold my hand, you know, like at all. So there's very much like a wall there.

So, no, I haven't. But I can definitely recognize when one of them was really hot. Yeah. And I have to check myself because recently there was somebody who I realized that I thought was so hot and I wanted you to be with him so bad. And we almost got in a fight with it. You actually called me out on it. Like, Justin, you need to stop. Yeah. Yeah. I was going in so much on this guy because I really in my mind thought he was so good for you. But it was because I liked him. I liked his energy. He was like a playful golden retriever.

And you did. You kind of like Justin. You got that voice of me. We got a little. This is actually I wouldn't again wouldn't say a fight, but like we had a heated conversation. Yeah. Yeah. And again, like when you wake me up like that, I'm like, OK, I need to stop.

It's true. Like I am doing that. Like you're like, Justin, stop. You wouldn't let this one go. And I was like, he had gay tendencies. And I was like, once I see these things, I can't unsee them. And I'm so turned off now. Like I can't. He's a good guy, but like I'm not attracted to him anymore because of the shit that he was doing and saying and sending to me. Well, and with you and I think I'm this way, too a lot, like you can't change our minds. Yeah. So I don't know why I ever try to do it with you.

And anytime that I do, I'm like, what are you doing, Justin? Like Kristen talking like, okay, Justin, you're right. You're right, Justin. I'll keep going out with him. No, that's true. But I do love that we can talk about hot guys. Like, you know, a hot guy. And that's fun for me to have like your like your masculinity to also be able to talk about hot guys like you know a hot guy and that's fun for me to have like your

like your masculinity to also be able to talk about that yeah and we've started to understand each other's type like I I understand your type because I well and the other thing to that question like I'm you and I actually aren't attracted to the same guys most of the time yeah like we have a very different type but lately you've been like dipping your toe and like some of the stuff that I'm like wait that's like who i think would be so hot it's cute it's fun oh my god it's so cute okay it's my question right okay i want to ask this because it's like non-stop i also get dms about this constantly so it's like can you just say it okay or take a shot which means you don't want to talk about it because it is relentless.

And I know the answer. And I wish the story could be told. Did you ever go out with Morgan Wallen? And did you like him at all? By the way, stop laughing at ourselves. That is the number one question that I get, too. And I feel like I guess now I kind of like skirted around the conversation numerous times. Again, it kind of goes back to like the Glenn thing. Like, I just don't need to be talking about these guys. I don't know.

I'm going to take a shot. Well, I tell the story. Yeah, you tell it. I'll get her to tell it one day. It lasted a long time. Oh my God. You've taken two. Yeah.

I was trying to get to this without doing any shots. I didn't think I would take any. Okay. Which celebrity facelift scars have you seen? That's a good one, isn't it? It's really, really good.

I know. You want me to say, maybe we should just start answering for each other so that we don't get in trouble. Like that makes it better. That's how it would get written up is you saying it. No one's going to write anything up about me. It's not like Us Weekly is like,

Kristen Cavallari's best friend, Justin Anderson, used to be a hair color, says that. No, I've seen all of that stuff. Yeah. And I would never talk about that because that is so incredibly rude. I will say that like I saw marks and scars

on young people that I was shocked, you know, so like there is a lot of work going on in Hollywood. Definitely. I have no judgment because I understand

that a lot of people do it and like whatever. So, yes, I saw a lot of it, but that would be embarrassing if I said it. You couldn't. You couldn't couldn't say couldn't say but it's a damn good question joked i might need to get more tequila okay oh that's my turn yeah oh my god this is a lot like i'm like sweating i know i i'm literally sweating i think up. That's healthy. Do you sweat a lot? I sweat a lot. I sweat. I'm not like disgusting.

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These are all your questions. I wrote all these. I actually wanted to say everyone. Did you date Morgan Waller? Now this next question is going to be so embarrassing. I actually wanted to read everyone's screen name, but I didn't know if people wanted to be private. But this one is from Anna underscore Pavlovich. You're lying.

It's my Finsta. No, this isn't even a juicy question. I just think it's interesting. What was your first impression of me? Oh, my God. I got that question a lot, actually, too. I loved you because you're very warm and welcoming. And just like it felt like we had known each other forever.

Yeah. I feel like a lot of people were like asking, like, how we first met. Like, did we know we'd be best friends right away? That's why I picked that one. But we've talked about this before. It was like an instant. It just felt like we knew each other forever. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I picked that one. But we've talked about this before. It was like an instant. Like, it just felt like we knew each other forever. Whatever.

That's a boring story because I've told it before. But I, yeah. No, I do. That's why I feel like we're soulmates. And like, we got a lot closer in the last five years or whatever it's been. But we always loved each other so much. We're too much alike. Like, I think that's where it's like the understanding comes from.

I agree. Okay. What's a red flag for someone that I'm dating? Like a red flag that you would like warn a guy about me. Oh, I mean, I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest, baby. Well, she's going to love bomb you. She's going to give you a so accurate.

She's going to give you a ton of attention. And then I'm going to hate you. And she might turn on you really quick. And it's nothing that is evil on your end. You just love. Yeah, you love, love bombing. I do love bomb. In a like excited, healthy way.

Like you are very excited about newness. And then also you want to be in a long-term relationship but like you and we just talked about this like just last night where i was like about whatever i think you should pull back a bit more but you know what i think it comes from i don't think it comes from a malicious place i think you are so confident that also if somebody decides you're not the one for them you're fine because you're like okay then we weren't meant to be you're very pragmatic about it like you're like good word i thought we needed to up our vocabulary about this when you know that it's not right you're okay if someone moves on from you you don't take it personally like oh we weren't a match or whatever but i

don't think a lot of guys like that and i have seen firsthand how guys fall for you so i'm like christine you if you're not that into him, like, don't do that. I know. Don't text him constantly. So here's what I would say. I lead guys on. I don't actually think I love bomb guys

because I've been love bombed where it's like really like, oh, my God, I see a future with you. Like, yeah, give me a ring. Like, that's different. I just like I get really excited. Like if I start liking someone,

I'm all in, I think, because I don't like people very often. So when I I get like really excited but yes then all of a sudden I will flip and be like I'm over him wait can I say something you tell me if I'm totally off base here I think that there might also be a part of you that wants to speed up you kind of want to get to the point yeah like you kind of want to be like could this go somewhere so you want it to kind of work fast and what we were just saying the other day, or I was saying to you, it was like, Kristen, it's okay to take weeks to figure out if you like someone, like see them and then like wait a week,

maybe go on a date with them again or like wait days to message them or whatever. But I understand why you do it. I think you're kind of like, let's get there or don't. Exactly. I'm not going to like put time and energy into something that like doesn't potentially have a future. Yeah. Which I don't, I've always been like that.

I probably should chill out a little bit. Okay. What was the weirdest thing you've ever seen as a celebrity? So like maybe you were in a party situation or on a set and you were like, this is wild that this happens in the world that people would have no idea? That's a really good question. I mean, I'd have to think about that for a second. I mean, the Lindsay Lohan thing. I'm not good at like remembering stuff like that, unless someone was like brought up a specific person, then I'd be like, oh, yeah, this one time.

But I don't like have these memories just like stored in my mind. Does that make sense? Well, I guess like my it's not like one specific thing, but like my biggest takeaway from Hollywood is that people's image is typically the opposite of who they are. So like if you think someone is like the girl next door, sweetheart, they're the biggest fucking asshole on the planet a lot and so that i think just like i wish i could come up with like actual stories for you guys but that was more that was more because i feel like those people are trying so hard to control the narrative on their image where like if you're actually just a real cool person you're not like working overtime yeah you're not like working overtime. Yeah.

You're not like doing damage control all the time. No, you see someone who like to the public presents themselves a certain way. And then you see them in like a house party situation. You're like, wow, they're an offer for the way that they treat other people. But I think that could happen in any social circle. Like the girl who acts super sweet at church on Sunday. Same thing. Just on a bigger platform.

Yeah. Then you see her at the grocery store and she's like cussing out the baggage lady. Literally. It's like people do that everywhere, but it does happen in Hollywood. Or like a lot of musicians are not their music. And that's been kind of a. Oh, another thing about musicians, they always want to play their album for you to the point where you're like, this is so awkward. Why am I sitting here having to listen to your album? Like, this is weird. You know what's so funny is it is so awkward to first of all, just listen to someone sing. Have you ever like been somewhere where someone starts singing?

You're like, where do I look? Like, I'm like, this is so fucking weird. Or like, you know, when you have like a friend that knows they have a good voice and they just randomly start singing. You're like, can you please not do that? I know, I know, I know. Oh my God. I remember one time there was a singer that i was working on i

was doing her hair and we weren't vibing i vibed with pretty much all of my clients like the people that i talked about a lot i did their hair forever because we vibed so much this one client because there's a lot of people that i did for very short periods of time and i've never talked about them this one client she's a big singer she's in my chair and we weren't vibing like i think she was on something i could not understand what was going on like we weren't communicating and i love the chat she was just singing in the chair but like putting her everything and i didn't know if i was just like that's beautiful baby like is that like a new number you're working on but like because she wasn't talking to me she was just like in her own world and she was just like singing but like

full force it was the most awkward thing in the world. Like as I'm like highlighting their hair, like this is so fucking weird. Okay. Well, how about people get fucked up? You guys, I've been at like award shows and I've had people like rolling their dicks off on ecstasy who then go and present. And I'm like,

how are they doing that? How are they keeping it together? Like people are like, because a lot of creative people can go hard. Also, the Kanye thing at the VMA is when he took Taylor Swift's award, I was right there. I was sitting right there. You were?

I was right there. I didn't know that. And Jack, my publicist, and I ran into Kanye and Amber Rose in the bathroom. They were coming out of the bathroom as I was going in. They were hammered. And they were in the bathroom together, probably fucking.

And Jack and I were like, oh, hey, like what? I mean, you were there that night. I was right there. Did the room go like crickets when that happened? Was it as awkward? I think it was like people were so confused. Yeah. What was happening?

Yeah. If you watch it now, it looks like everyone's like, is this really happening? I think we were just like really confused. Oh, my God. I can't believe that. Yeah, I was right there. But like he was like fucked up out of his mind, obviously. But like so people get like really fucked up.

Which I mean, I did too back in the day, but I never for like an award show or something. But also like you party, you're never messy. No, I can hold it together. You hold it together. I can drink anyone under the table, but like. I can hang. You never get messy. No. You all, I never hold it together. You hold together. I can bring anyone under the table, but like I can hang you never get messy No, you all I never also the next day. I'm like, oh my god, Kristen You were so embarrassed last night or you said too much like you always you always are aware of what's going on

You're not gonna like whatever but a lot of people aren't know a lot of people aren't I'm not want to talk But I wasn't like I was usually like pretty irresponsible if I had to work the next day Even when I was like in my craziest partying phase for the most part. Okay. Your turn or my turn? I think it's my turn. Who's the most famous person I have in my contacts, and who is the most famous person you have in yours?

Hmm. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Mine is, I have a lot, to be honest. And I don't want to brag about people like oh you're bragging you could I know what name I would give for you yeah Jennifer Aniston yeah yeah I love her so much when we were talking about celebrities for nice Jennifer is beyond nice like whatever you imagine you want Jennifer Aniston to be she she's that much more. Like she is wonderful.

That's nice. But yeah, I still stay in touch with a lot of my clients. I still consider a lot of them friends. And for you, the most famous person in your phone, Heidi Montag? That's it. That's the one. No, who is it?

I think your most famous phone number is John Mayer, you guys. It's the one. No, who is it? I think your most famous phone number is John Mayer, you guys. It's John Mayer. But no, it's Morgan Waller. We have to stop. Cut that out. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. No, guys.

Stop drinking. No, I know. But this isn't bad. I mean, whatever. It doesn't mean anything ever happened between us. Anywho. Okay. What's a cringe moment you wish you could take back from reality TV?

It's like something that's been on camera film that you're like, I wish that wasn't there. I would say so on the hills. They like accused me of doing drugs and stuff. That was definitely not a highlight in my life. That was really fucked up. And I mean, it was like so dark and gross that it was everyone's teams and their lawyers went in because like, you know, there was bribery involved. A producer bribed the girls with a Birkin bag to call me out on camera for doing drugs. That's fucked up, man.

And that was like really damaging. So then because the tabloid world, and at the time, this is before social media, so the tabloids were everything. They piggybacked on whatever the producer on the hills was feeding them. So then like, I'm on the cover of Us Weekly saying like, I need to go to rehab. I'm not showering, like all this shit.

And so- Why did that just give me chills? I know. That was a tough time in my life. And so that just gave me chills. I know it was that was a tough time in my life. And so like, technically, could I have probably sued MTV 100%? But I was just like, I want it to go away. But that was that was fucked up. It's so wild, because I don't think I don't know what this feels like. But to have that kind of like, and especially at that time, because now there's so much in the media every day that we forget about things within minutes. But even remember that and it was so weird to me because we were friends at that time

but not really really close like I knew you and so even like people would ask me is Kristen really in a bad place like no this is has to be a load of shit like she's so normal like that's right when we met yeah no I've been going to you for a couple years before yeah so I remember people talking about it like it was a thing and that was so blown out of proportion for ratings for the show or to get people to go watch the show. And it's like, but imagine that being spread around the country about you. And there's nothing you can do about it at that time. You don't have Instagram. You can go on and be like, couldn't do damage control. And I mean, listen, like I was that was my party phase, but I never felt like I was out of control. I definitely never needed rehab. Like, did I? I've done my fair share of drugs. I can easily admit everything that I've done,

but it was never something that like should have been called out for that. Yeah. So, and like, you know, the girls, one girl in particular who actually said it on camera, like you're a scumbag, you're a scumbag. And they were doing it for ratings. Like it becomes a job and you're throwing someone under the bus for like a job. And what happened was that we were all in Miami for the Superbowl and all of us collectively were like, we don't want to go. I was like, I paid my own fucking way to be here. I'm not filming. Like I was going and you guys decided to come. So we all collectively, collectively were like, we're not filming. Like we're all going out. Okay, great. We're all in this together. Well, everyone stumbled back and they filmed a scene and I was still out.

So that's when it happened. And I'm like, fuck you guys. We all agreed to do this together. Which again, listen, like I should have shown up to fucking work. That was my job. I should have shown up. I should have. But you trusted that they were all in the same boat as you.

I thought we were. But again, and it took me a long time for me to like take responsibility for any of it. Like, should I have shown up? Yes. Should I maybe not? I was fucked up that night. I was. I went out really late.

No regrets. You enjoyed yourself. But like, so there are things I could have done differently. And I think I blamed the producer for so long. And when I could finally be like, okay, well, what did I do to contribute? I like took my power back. That's why I never think you should blame anyone for anything. Cause then you're like living in that negativity,

but it was regardless, it shouldn't have happened. And it was really difficult when I was like 22, probably. So yeah. Who was the girl that said it? Just kidding. Just kidding.

This is my last question. Do I have good taste in men? Looks wise. Yeah, definitely looks wise. Uh, yes, you do. That was questionable for a minute. This is my last question. Do I have good taste in men? Looks wise, yeah. Definitely looks wise. Yes, you do. That was questionable for a minute.

I think now you're, I think you've done it in exactly the right way. Like, I feel like now you really are, like, if you're going to settle down with someone, they have to have everything that, like, works for you and for them. So I think that now what you're looking for makes a lot of sense. Before, it was questionable. Yeah. You know, I think that now what you're looking for makes a lot of sense before it was questionable yeah you know like the things we were like he's so hot

I'm like oh my god we're doing this again okay here we go and I just had to go with it because I can't give you that kind of advice because you won't listen but I think that it has definitely it's changing we've gotten better yeah definitely all right last question okay last question I mean the amount of people who care about steven i'm like it's insane it's like you guys that was so long ago like do you guys still talk about your high school boyfriend like does justin think that steven is the one i'm like oh my god can we move on like that was high school i know it was huge for everyone but it's like think about who your high school well a lot of people are still in love with their high school

boyfriend like that they still think about them all the time yeah you're all i've had 40 more friends um okay how the hell did you put up with jake hutler for all those years because it's like you don't want to be a dog but it's like people like they see it here's what i'll say so this is the father the only reason i feel comfortable asking you this because i know that you know how to answer it with being honest or whatever like I don't think

it's like a gotcha oh no what do I say so he's the father of my kids I'm very careful what I say about him I would

trust me I would love to say some stuff I learned from my mom not to really talk bad like she never spoke badly about my dad and that

stuck with me. I think that's something that I want to emulate, that I've really tried to emulate. And I met him when I was 23. And there are things I put up with at age 23 that obviously I never would now. And I think that's it. And I think you guys can kind of understand it from there.

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